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Fidel Castro announces retirement
Re: Fidel Castro announces retirement
On Tue, 19 Feb 2008 15:39:01 -0500, "J. Clarke"
<jclarke.usenet@cox . net > wrote:
>Mike....... wrote:
>> Following up to "J. Clarke" <jclarke.usenet@cox . net > wrote:
>>
>>> Cuba, the nation, has been said to do that
>>> from time to time you know.
>>
>> Yes, its amazing how the US has made a world hero of Castro, the
>> dictator!
>
>Huh? I'm sorry, you've lost me. Are you by any chance laboring
>under the misconception that the United States Naval Station on the
>island of Cuba is administered by the Cuban government?
Woosh!
On Tue, 19 Feb 2008 15:39:01 -0500, "J. Clarke"
<jclarke.usenet@cox . net > wrote:
>Mike....... wrote:
>> Following up to "J. Clarke" <jclarke.usenet@cox . net > wrote:
>>
>>> Cuba, the nation, has been said to do that
>>> from time to time you know.
>>
>> Yes, its amazing how the US has made a world hero of Castro, the
>> dictator!
>
>Huh? I'm sorry, you've lost me. Are you by any chance laboring
>under the misconception that the United States Naval Station on the
>island of Cuba is administered by the Cuban government?
Woosh!
Re: Fidel Castro announces retirement
Mike....... wrote:
> Following up to "J. Clarke" <jclarke.usenet@cox . net > wrote:
>
>
>>Cuba, the nation, has been said to do that
>
>>from time to time you know.
>
> Yes, its amazing how the US has made a world hero of Castro, the
> dictator!
Well, in case everyone has forgotten, it was the U.S. that
supported him against Batista!
Mike....... wrote:
> Following up to "J. Clarke" <jclarke.usenet@cox . net > wrote:
>
>
>>Cuba, the nation, has been said to do that
>
>>from time to time you know.
>
> Yes, its amazing how the US has made a world hero of Castro, the
> dictator!
Well, in case everyone has forgotten, it was the U.S. that
supported him against Batista!
Re: Fidel Castro announces retirement
"EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)" wrote:
>
> >
> > Yes, its amazing how the US has made a world hero of Castro, the
> > dictator!
>
> Well, in case everyone has forgotten, it was the U.S. that
> supported him against Batista!
How so? By withdrawing military support for the Batitista regime in
1958, after the struggle had been going on for 5 years? The US had been
a major supporter of Batista.
"EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)" wrote:
>
> >
> > Yes, its amazing how the US has made a world hero of Castro, the
> > dictator!
>
> Well, in case everyone has forgotten, it was the U.S. that
> supported him against Batista!
How so? By withdrawing military support for the Batitista regime in
1958, after the struggle had been going on for 5 years? The US had been
a major supporter of Batista.
Re: Fidel Castro announces retirement
"J. Clarke" wrote:
>
> >
> > Don't know about that, but I hear that it is housing prisoners for
> > years at a time without any charges laid and subjecting them to
> > military tribunals for crimes alleged to have been committed in
> > another country.
>
> Careful with that one. Cuba, the nation, has been said to do that
> from time to time you know.
Perhaps so, but they are a country with with a corrupt dictator and few
civil rights. They don't have any long term leases on land in other
countries where they can send prisoners captured elsewhere and then
prosecute them under their law while denying them the civil rights offered
by the same set laws because they are on foreign soil.
>
>
> --
> --
> --John
> to email, dial "usenet" and validate
> (was jclarke at eye bee em dot net)
"J. Clarke" wrote:
>
> >
> > Don't know about that, but I hear that it is housing prisoners for
> > years at a time without any charges laid and subjecting them to
> > military tribunals for crimes alleged to have been committed in
> > another country.
>
> Careful with that one. Cuba, the nation, has been said to do that
> from time to time you know.
Perhaps so, but they are a country with with a corrupt dictator and few
civil rights. They don't have any long term leases on land in other
countries where they can send prisoners captured elsewhere and then
prosecute them under their law while denying them the civil rights offered
by the same set laws because they are on foreign soil.
>
>
> --
> --
> --John
> to email, dial "usenet" and validate
> (was jclarke at eye bee em dot net)
Re: Fidel Castro announces retirement
Dave Smith wrote:
> "J. Clarke" wrote:
>
>>
>>>
>>> Don't know about that, but I hear that it is housing prisoners for
>>> years at a time without any charges laid and subjecting them to
>>> military tribunals for crimes alleged to have been committed in
>>> another country.
>>
>> Careful with that one. Cuba, the nation, has been said to do that
>> from time to time you know.
>
> Perhaps so, but they are a country with with a corrupt dictator and
> few civil rights. They don't have any long term leases on land in
> other countries where they can send prisoners captured elsewhere and
> then prosecute them under their law while denying them the civil
> rights offered by the same set laws because they are on foreign
> soil.
Actually being on "foreign soil" has more to do with keeping the press
and the ambulance chasers away than with denying their supposed civil
rights. The Supreme Court has addressed this and established the
rules to be followed for non-citizens suspected of terrorism.
--
--
--John
to email, dial "usenet" and validate
(was jclarke at eye bee em dot net)
Dave Smith wrote:
> "J. Clarke" wrote:
>
>>
>>>
>>> Don't know about that, but I hear that it is housing prisoners for
>>> years at a time without any charges laid and subjecting them to
>>> military tribunals for crimes alleged to have been committed in
>>> another country.
>>
>> Careful with that one. Cuba, the nation, has been said to do that
>> from time to time you know.
>
> Perhaps so, but they are a country with with a corrupt dictator and
> few civil rights. They don't have any long term leases on land in
> other countries where they can send prisoners captured elsewhere and
> then prosecute them under their law while denying them the civil
> rights offered by the same set laws because they are on foreign
> soil.
Actually being on "foreign soil" has more to do with keeping the press
and the ambulance chasers away than with denying their supposed civil
rights. The Supreme Court has addressed this and established the
rules to be followed for non-citizens suspected of terrorism.
--
--
--John
to email, dial "usenet" and validate
(was jclarke at eye bee em dot net)
Re: Fidel Castro announces retirement
"J. Clarke" wrote:
> Actually being on "foreign soil" has more to do with keeping the press
> and the ambulance chasers away than with denying their supposed civil
> rights. The Supreme Court has addressed this and established the
> rules to be followed for non-citizens suspected of terrorism.
>
It does? I was not aware that human rights applied only to citizens. They
apply to all people, not just citizens. The Supreme Court ruled that it
had no jurisdiction over the prisoners at Gitmo because it is not American
soil. Curiously, US law if being used to prosecute the prisononers. You
can't help but wonder how it is that they can capture people in
Afghanistan and take them to Cuba to be tried under US law when the SC has
ruled that it has no jurisdiction on other than US soil.
"J. Clarke" wrote:
> Actually being on "foreign soil" has more to do with keeping the press
> and the ambulance chasers away than with denying their supposed civil
> rights. The Supreme Court has addressed this and established the
> rules to be followed for non-citizens suspected of terrorism.
>
It does? I was not aware that human rights applied only to citizens. They
apply to all people, not just citizens. The Supreme Court ruled that it
had no jurisdiction over the prisoners at Gitmo because it is not American
soil. Curiously, US law if being used to prosecute the prisononers. You
can't help but wonder how it is that they can capture people in
Afghanistan and take them to Cuba to be tried under US law when the SC has
ruled that it has no jurisdiction on other than US soil.
Re: Fidel Castro announces retirement
Following up to "J. Clarke" <jclarke.usenet@cox . net > wrote:
>Actually being on "foreign soil" has more to do with keeping the press
>and the ambulance chasers away than with denying their supposed civil
>rights.
splutter, is that a bay of pigs flying by?
--
Mike
Remove clothing to email
Following up to "J. Clarke" <jclarke.usenet@cox . net > wrote:
>Actually being on "foreign soil" has more to do with keeping the press
>and the ambulance chasers away than with denying their supposed civil
>rights.
splutter, is that a bay of pigs flying by?
--
Mike
Remove clothing to email
Re: Fidel Castro announces retirement
Mike....... wrote:
> Following up to "J. Clarke" <jclarke.usenet@cox . net > wrote:
>
>> Actually being on "foreign soil" has more to do with keeping the
>> press and the ambulance chasers away than with denying their
>> supposed civil rights.
>
> splutter, is that a bay of pigs flying by?
Read the rulings.
--
--
--John
to email, dial "usenet" and validate
(was jclarke at eye bee em dot net)
Mike....... wrote:
> Following up to "J. Clarke" <jclarke.usenet@cox . net > wrote:
>
>> Actually being on "foreign soil" has more to do with keeping the
>> press and the ambulance chasers away than with denying their
>> supposed civil rights.
>
> splutter, is that a bay of pigs flying by?
Read the rulings.
--
--
--John
to email, dial "usenet" and validate
(was jclarke at eye bee em dot net)
Re: Fidel Castro announces retirement
On Wed, 20 Feb 2008 07:43:51 +0000, Mike.......
<mikerclothing@freedomnames.co.uk> wrote:
>Following up to "J. Clarke" <jclarke.usenet@cox . net > wrote:
>
>>Actually being on "foreign soil" has more to do with keeping the press
>>and the ambulance chasers away than with denying their supposed civil
>>rights.
>
>splutter, is that a bay of pigs flying by?
lol!
On Wed, 20 Feb 2008 07:43:51 +0000, Mike.......
<mikerclothing@freedomnames.co.uk> wrote:
>Following up to "J. Clarke" <jclarke.usenet@cox . net > wrote:
>
>>Actually being on "foreign soil" has more to do with keeping the press
>>and the ambulance chasers away than with denying their supposed civil
>>rights.
>
>splutter, is that a bay of pigs flying by?
lol!
Re: Fidel Castro announces retirement
Rog' wrote:
> "Erick T. Barkhuis" <erick.usenet@ardane.c-o-m> wrote:
>
>>Oil wealth
>>Recent oil exploration has revealed that the North Cuba Basin
>>has approximately 4.6 billion to 9.3 billion barrels of oil in it,
>>which Cuba has now started to test-drill (as of 2006).
>
>
> Isn't Cuba also hiding Osama? Let's invade!
BITE YOUR TONGUE!!!!!!
>
>
Rog' wrote:
> "Erick T. Barkhuis" <erick.usenet@ardane.c-o-m> wrote:
>
>>Oil wealth
>>Recent oil exploration has revealed that the North Cuba Basin
>>has approximately 4.6 billion to 9.3 billion barrels of oil in it,
>>which Cuba has now started to test-drill (as of 2006).
>
>
> Isn't Cuba also hiding Osama? Let's invade!
BITE YOUR TONGUE!!!!!!
>
>
Re: Fidel Castro announces retirement
We haven't invaded Venezuela yet. What is Chavez gonna do now that his
buddy is retired or dead?
What if he (Chavez) decides to invade Colombia or Nicaragua invade San
Andres or Colombia invade the Nicaraguan Caribbean?
I hope they B.Y.O.B.
"Erick T. Barkhuis" <erick.usenet@ardane.c-o-m> wrote in message
news:MPG.2224fcb6194abdc09896db@news.individual . net ...
> Forest Gimp:
>
>> Fidel Castro announces retirement
>
> You didn't expect him to feature at the next disco party, claiming his
> next 20 years in administration, did you?
>
>>
>> US President George W Bush said ......
>>
>> "And we're going to help. The United States will help the people of
>> Cuba realise the blessings of liberty."
>>
>> .......does Cuba have any oil ??
>
> From Wikipedia:
>
> __________________________
> Nickel industry
> Cuba has had until recently one of the America's most productive and long
> standing nickel mines.
>
> Oil wealth
> Recent oil exploration has revealed that the North Cuba Basin has
> approximately 4.6 billion to 9.3 billion barrels of oil in it, which Cuba
> has now started to test-drill (as of 2006).
> ___________________________
>
>
>
>
> --
> Erick
We haven't invaded Venezuela yet. What is Chavez gonna do now that his
buddy is retired or dead?
What if he (Chavez) decides to invade Colombia or Nicaragua invade San
Andres or Colombia invade the Nicaraguan Caribbean?
I hope they B.Y.O.B.
"Erick T. Barkhuis" <erick.usenet@ardane.c-o-m> wrote in message
news:MPG.2224fcb6194abdc09896db@news.individual . net ...
> Forest Gimp:
>
>> Fidel Castro announces retirement
>
> You didn't expect him to feature at the next disco party, claiming his
> next 20 years in administration, did you?
>
>>
>> US President George W Bush said ......
>>
>> "And we're going to help. The United States will help the people of
>> Cuba realise the blessings of liberty."
>>
>> .......does Cuba have any oil ??
>
> From Wikipedia:
>
> __________________________
> Nickel industry
> Cuba has had until recently one of the America's most productive and long
> standing nickel mines.
>
> Oil wealth
> Recent oil exploration has revealed that the North Cuba Basin has
> approximately 4.6 billion to 9.3 billion barrels of oil in it, which Cuba
> has now started to test-drill (as of 2006).
> ___________________________
>
>
>
>
> --
> Erick
Re: Fidel Castro announces retirement
Harry wrote:
> We haven't invaded Venezuela yet. What is Chavez gonna do now that his
> buddy is retired or dead?
>
> What if he (Chavez) decides to invade Colombia or Nicaragua invade San
> Andres or Colombia invade the Nicaraguan Caribbean?
>
> I hope they B.Y.O.B.
Certainly American troops are already spread so thin they
haven't the manpower to invade anyone else! (And, since
many of our troops in Iraq are National Guardsmen, we
haven't much in the way of troops for "emergency response"
here at home, either.)
>
>
>
>
> "Erick T. Barkhuis" <erick.usenet@ardane.c-o-m> wrote in message
> news:MPG.2224fcb6194abdc09896db@news.individual . net ...
>
>>Forest Gimp:
>>
>>
>>>Fidel Castro announces retirement
>>
>>You didn't expect him to feature at the next disco party, claiming his
>>next 20 years in administration, did you?
>>
>>
>>>US President George W Bush said ......
>>>
>>>"And we're going to help. The United States will help the people of
>>>Cuba realise the blessings of liberty."
>>>
>>>.......does Cuba have any oil ??
>>
>>From Wikipedia:
>>
>>__________________________
>>Nickel industry
>>Cuba has had until recently one of the America's most productive and long
>>standing nickel mines.
>>
>>Oil wealth
>>Recent oil exploration has revealed that the North Cuba Basin has
>>approximately 4.6 billion to 9.3 billion barrels of oil in it, which Cuba
>>has now started to test-drill (as of 2006).
>>___________________________
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>--
>>Erick
>
>
>
Harry wrote:
> We haven't invaded Venezuela yet. What is Chavez gonna do now that his
> buddy is retired or dead?
>
> What if he (Chavez) decides to invade Colombia or Nicaragua invade San
> Andres or Colombia invade the Nicaraguan Caribbean?
>
> I hope they B.Y.O.B.
Certainly American troops are already spread so thin they
haven't the manpower to invade anyone else! (And, since
many of our troops in Iraq are National Guardsmen, we
haven't much in the way of troops for "emergency response"
here at home, either.)
>
>
>
>
> "Erick T. Barkhuis" <erick.usenet@ardane.c-o-m> wrote in message
> news:MPG.2224fcb6194abdc09896db@news.individual . net ...
>
>>Forest Gimp:
>>
>>
>>>Fidel Castro announces retirement
>>
>>You didn't expect him to feature at the next disco party, claiming his
>>next 20 years in administration, did you?
>>
>>
>>>US President George W Bush said ......
>>>
>>>"And we're going to help. The United States will help the people of
>>>Cuba realise the blessings of liberty."
>>>
>>>.......does Cuba have any oil ??
>>
>>From Wikipedia:
>>
>>__________________________
>>Nickel industry
>>Cuba has had until recently one of the America's most productive and long
>>standing nickel mines.
>>
>>Oil wealth
>>Recent oil exploration has revealed that the North Cuba Basin has
>>approximately 4.6 billion to 9.3 billion barrels of oil in it, which Cuba
>>has now started to test-drill (as of 2006).
>>___________________________
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>--
>>Erick
>
>
>
Re: Fidel Castro announces retirement
granny enjoys sharing stuff about the US
"EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)" <evgmsop@earthlink . net > a écrit dans le
message de news:fpfhvu02g81@news2.newsguy . com ...
>
>
> Harry wrote:
>
>> We haven't invaded Venezuela yet. What is Chavez gonna do now that his
>> buddy is retired or dead?
>>
>> What if he (Chavez) decides to invade Colombia or Nicaragua invade San
>> Andres or Colombia invade the Nicaraguan Caribbean?
>>
>> I hope they B.Y.O.B.
>
> Certainly American troops are already spread so thin they haven't the
> manpower to invade anyone else! (And, since many of our troops in Iraq
> are National Guardsmen, we haven't much in the way of troops for
> "emergency response" here at home, either.)
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "Erick T. Barkhuis" <erick.usenet@ardane.c-o-m> wrote in message
>> news:MPG.2224fcb6194abdc09896db@news.individual . net ...
>>
>>>Forest Gimp:
>>>
>>>
>>>>Fidel Castro announces retirement
>>>
>>>You didn't expect him to feature at the next disco party, claiming his
>>>next 20 years in administration, did you?
>>>
>>>
>>>>US President George W Bush said ......
>>>>
>>>>"And we're going to help. The United States will help the people of
>>>>Cuba realise the blessings of liberty."
>>>>
>>>>.......does Cuba have any oil ??
>>>
>>>From Wikipedia:
>>>
>>>
>>>Nickel industry
>>>Cuba has had until recently one of the America's most productive and long
>>>standing nickel mines.
>>>
>>>Oil wealth
>>>Recent oil exploration has revealed that the North Cuba Basin has
>>>approximately 4.6 billion to 9.3 billion barrels of oil in it, which Cuba
>>>has now started to test-drill (as of 2006).
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>--
>>>Erick
>>
>>
granny enjoys sharing stuff about the US
"EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)" <evgmsop@earthlink . net > a écrit dans le
message de news:fpfhvu02g81@news2.newsguy . com ...
>
>
> Harry wrote:
>
>> We haven't invaded Venezuela yet. What is Chavez gonna do now that his
>> buddy is retired or dead?
>>
>> What if he (Chavez) decides to invade Colombia or Nicaragua invade San
>> Andres or Colombia invade the Nicaraguan Caribbean?
>>
>> I hope they B.Y.O.B.
>
> Certainly American troops are already spread so thin they haven't the
> manpower to invade anyone else! (And, since many of our troops in Iraq
> are National Guardsmen, we haven't much in the way of troops for
> "emergency response" here at home, either.)
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "Erick T. Barkhuis" <erick.usenet@ardane.c-o-m> wrote in message
>> news:MPG.2224fcb6194abdc09896db@news.individual . net ...
>>
>>>Forest Gimp:
>>>
>>>
>>>>Fidel Castro announces retirement
>>>
>>>You didn't expect him to feature at the next disco party, claiming his
>>>next 20 years in administration, did you?
>>>
>>>
>>>>US President George W Bush said ......
>>>>
>>>>"And we're going to help. The United States will help the people of
>>>>Cuba realise the blessings of liberty."
>>>>
>>>>.......does Cuba have any oil ??
>>>
>>>From Wikipedia:
>>>
>>>
>>>Nickel industry
>>>Cuba has had until recently one of the America's most productive and long
>>>standing nickel mines.
>>>
>>>Oil wealth
>>>Recent oil exploration has revealed that the North Cuba Basin has
>>>approximately 4.6 billion to 9.3 billion barrels of oil in it, which Cuba
>>>has now started to test-drill (as of 2006).
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>--
>>>Erick
>>
>>
Re: Fidel Castro announces retirement
"EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)" wrote:
>
>
> Certainly American troops are already spread so thin they
> haven't the manpower to invade anyone else! (And, since
> many of our troops in Iraq are National Guardsmen, we
> haven't much in the way of troops for "emergency response"
> here at home, either.)
They got a little too bold after their successes against superpowers like
Panama and Grenada. They did okay in the Gulf War because they had lots of
help, and a family run regime that needed to be bailed out. That boosted their
confidence enough to think they should invade Afghanistan and Iraq and they are
pinned down there for a while.
"EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)" wrote:
>
>
> Certainly American troops are already spread so thin they
> haven't the manpower to invade anyone else! (And, since
> many of our troops in Iraq are National Guardsmen, we
> haven't much in the way of troops for "emergency response"
> here at home, either.)
They got a little too bold after their successes against superpowers like
Panama and Grenada. They did okay in the Gulf War because they had lots of
help, and a family run regime that needed to be bailed out. That boosted their
confidence enough to think they should invade Afghanistan and Iraq and they are
pinned down there for a while.
Re: Fidel Castro announces retirement
"Forest Gimp" <michaelnewport@yahoo . com > wrote in message
news:d3ae17fd-9bbb-44c6-92a8-516c4827d0e1@d5g2000hsc.googlegroups . com ...
> * news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/7252109.stm
>
> Fidel Castro announces retirement
>
> US President George W Bush said ......
>
> "And we're going to help. The United States will help the people of
> Cuba realise the blessings of liberty."
>
> .......does Cuba have any oil ??
Notice how the State Department said they're not lifting the embargo anytime
soon. What would lifting the embargo do to the Florida economy? Sugar cane,
tourism, etc.etc....
"Forest Gimp" <michaelnewport@yahoo . com > wrote in message
news:d3ae17fd-9bbb-44c6-92a8-516c4827d0e1@d5g2000hsc.googlegroups . com ...
> * news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/7252109.stm
>
> Fidel Castro announces retirement
>
> US President George W Bush said ......
>
> "And we're going to help. The United States will help the people of
> Cuba realise the blessings of liberty."
>
> .......does Cuba have any oil ??
Notice how the State Department said they're not lifting the embargo anytime
soon. What would lifting the embargo do to the Florida economy? Sugar cane,
tourism, etc.etc....
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