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Flying and Dying
They've decided to NOT raise the cabin pressure ..
Not enough evidence ..
They aren't counting the db's .. just the cash ..
Reminds me of the water heaters which had the 'defect' .. they decided
it was "cheaper" to pay off the explosions and screaming deaths than
to recall.
"8000 ft has been accepted as the maximum operational cabin pressure
altitude in the airline industry."
"On the basis of our findings, we conclude that maintaining a cabin
altitude of 6,000 feet or lower (equivalent to a barometric pressure
of 609 mm Hg or higher) on long-duration commercial flights will
reduce the discomfort among passengers,"
Cabin cruising altitudes for regular transport aircraft. [Journal
Article]
Aviat Space Environ Med 2008 Apr; 79(4):433-9.
The adverse physiological effects of flight, caused by ascent to
altitude and its associated reduction in barometric pressure, have
been known since the first manned balloon flights in the 19th
century.
It soon became apparent that the way to protect the occupant of an
aircraft from the effects of ascent to altitude was to enclose either
the individual, or the cabin, in a sealed or pressurized environment.
Of primary concern in commercial airline transport operations is the
selection of a suitable cabin pressurization schedule that assures
adequate oxygen partial pressures for all intended occupants.
For the past several decades, 8000 ft has been accepted as the maximum
operational cabin pressure altitude in the airline industry.
More recent research findings on the physiological and psycho-
physiological effects of mild hypoxia have provided cause for renewed
discussion of the "acceptability" of a maximum cabin cruise altitude
of 8000 ft; however, we did not find sufficient scientific data to
recommend a change in the cabin altitude of transport category
aircraft.
The Aerospace Medical Association (AsMA) should support further
research to evaluate the safety, performance and comfort of occupants
at altitudes between 5000 and 10,000 ft.
Aviation, space, and environmental medicine [Aviat Space Environ Med]
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Long flights cause altitude sickness
6 Jul 2007, 0002 hrs IST,REUTERS
BOSTON: Feeling a little achy, light headed or short of breath on a
long plane flight? A new study suggests you might be suffering from a
mild form of altitude sickness.
Until now, such symptoms had been attributed to jet lag, dehydration,
air contamination or being stuck in a cramped seat for hours.
Researchers report that true altitude sickness - with its nausea,
vomiting and sleep disturbances - was no more likely in volunteers in
simulated airplane cabins where the pressure was equivalent to 8,000
feet above sea level than it was when the pressure was closer to sea
level.
But after three hours of exposure to cabin pressures equivalent to
7,000 to 8,000 feet, the simulated fliers were more likely than
others to report backaches, headaches, shortness of breath, light-
headedness
and impaired coordination.
Women and younger people were the most likely to experience symptoms.
"On the basis of our findings, we conclude that maintaining a cabin
altitude of 6,000 feet or lower (equivalent to a barometric pressure
of 609 mm Hg or higher) on long-duration commercial flights will
reduce the discomfort among passengers," wrote Michael Muhm and
colleagues.
-----------------------------------
Briefs: Flying may pose risk to sleep apnea sufferers
By Times Staff, Wires
In print: Friday, May 23, 2008
Flying may pose risk to sleep apnea sufferers
People with severe obstructive sleep apnea (OSA) taking airline
flights may have a greater risk from cardiac stress than healthy
people, according to new research.
The scientists compared oxygen levels and breathing by simulating
flight conditions.
"It is normal for the rate of breathing to increase when air pressure
falls,'' said Leigh Seccombe, an Australian scientist.
"We found that (for those with OSA), their breathing intensity
increases at about the same rate as it does in healthy people." But
the physiological stress and demand for oxygen was increased in people
with OSA.
"The work they do to run the core range of body functions (heart,
lungs, brain) is much greater under cabin conditions.''
Who loves ya.
Tom
Jesus Was A Vegetarian!
http :// jesuswasavegetarian.7h,com
Man Is A Herbivore!
http :// tinyurl,com /a3cc3
DEAD PEOPLE WALKING
http :// tinyurl,com /zk9fk
They've decided to NOT raise the cabin pressure ..
Not enough evidence ..
They aren't counting the db's .. just the cash ..
Reminds me of the water heaters which had the 'defect' .. they decided
it was "cheaper" to pay off the explosions and screaming deaths than
to recall.
"8000 ft has been accepted as the maximum operational cabin pressure
altitude in the airline industry."
"On the basis of our findings, we conclude that maintaining a cabin
altitude of 6,000 feet or lower (equivalent to a barometric pressure
of 609 mm Hg or higher) on long-duration commercial flights will
reduce the discomfort among passengers,"
Cabin cruising altitudes for regular transport aircraft. [Journal
Article]
Aviat Space Environ Med 2008 Apr; 79(4):433-9.
The adverse physiological effects of flight, caused by ascent to
altitude and its associated reduction in barometric pressure, have
been known since the first manned balloon flights in the 19th
century.
It soon became apparent that the way to protect the occupant of an
aircraft from the effects of ascent to altitude was to enclose either
the individual, or the cabin, in a sealed or pressurized environment.
Of primary concern in commercial airline transport operations is the
selection of a suitable cabin pressurization schedule that assures
adequate oxygen partial pressures for all intended occupants.
For the past several decades, 8000 ft has been accepted as the maximum
operational cabin pressure altitude in the airline industry.
More recent research findings on the physiological and psycho-
physiological effects of mild hypoxia have provided cause for renewed
discussion of the "acceptability" of a maximum cabin cruise altitude
of 8000 ft; however, we did not find sufficient scientific data to
recommend a change in the cabin altitude of transport category
aircraft.
The Aerospace Medical Association (AsMA) should support further
research to evaluate the safety, performance and comfort of occupants
at altitudes between 5000 and 10,000 ft.
Aviation, space, and environmental medicine [Aviat Space Environ Med]
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Long flights cause altitude sickness
6 Jul 2007, 0002 hrs IST,REUTERS
BOSTON: Feeling a little achy, light headed or short of breath on a
long plane flight? A new study suggests you might be suffering from a
mild form of altitude sickness.
Until now, such symptoms had been attributed to jet lag, dehydration,
air contamination or being stuck in a cramped seat for hours.
Researchers report that true altitude sickness - with its nausea,
vomiting and sleep disturbances - was no more likely in volunteers in
simulated airplane cabins where the pressure was equivalent to 8,000
feet above sea level than it was when the pressure was closer to sea
level.
But after three hours of exposure to cabin pressures equivalent to
7,000 to 8,000 feet, the simulated fliers were more likely than
others to report backaches, headaches, shortness of breath, light-
headedness
and impaired coordination.
Women and younger people were the most likely to experience symptoms.
"On the basis of our findings, we conclude that maintaining a cabin
altitude of 6,000 feet or lower (equivalent to a barometric pressure
of 609 mm Hg or higher) on long-duration commercial flights will
reduce the discomfort among passengers," wrote Michael Muhm and
colleagues.
-----------------------------------
Briefs: Flying may pose risk to sleep apnea sufferers
By Times Staff, Wires
In print: Friday, May 23, 2008
Flying may pose risk to sleep apnea sufferers
People with severe obstructive sleep apnea (OSA) taking airline
flights may have a greater risk from cardiac stress than healthy
people, according to new research.
The scientists compared oxygen levels and breathing by simulating
flight conditions.
"It is normal for the rate of breathing to increase when air pressure
falls,'' said Leigh Seccombe, an Australian scientist.
"We found that (for those with OSA), their breathing intensity
increases at about the same rate as it does in healthy people." But
the physiological stress and demand for oxygen was increased in people
with OSA.
"The work they do to run the core range of body functions (heart,
lungs, brain) is much greater under cabin conditions.''
Who loves ya.
Tom
Jesus Was A Vegetarian!
http :// jesuswasavegetarian.7h,com
Man Is A Herbivore!
http :// tinyurl,com /a3cc3
DEAD PEOPLE WALKING
http :// tinyurl,com /zk9fk
Re: Flying and Dying
On May 26, 10:34 am, ironjustice <ironjust...@cashette,com > wrote:
thrombosis <<
People are still under the assumption it is the cramped seating
conditions which causes thrombosis ..
It's not ..
Vol. 119, No. 3, 2008
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Review
Altitude and Coagulation Activation: Does Going High Provoke
Thrombosis?
J.J. van Veena, M. Makrisb
aLeicester Haemophilia Comprehensive Care Centre and Haemostasis and
Thrombosis Unit, Leicester , and
bSheffield Haemophilia and Thrombosis Centre, Sheffield, UK
Address of Corresponding Author
Acta Haematol 2008;119:156-157 (DOI: 10.1159/000128045)
Who loves ya.
Tom
Jesus Was A Vegetarian!
http :// jesuswasavegetarian.7h,com
Man Is A Herbivore!
http :// tinyurl,com /a3cc3
DEAD PEOPLE WALKING
http :// tinyurl,com /zk9fk
> They've decided to NOT raise the cabin pressure ..
> Not enough evidence ..
> They aren't counting the db's .. just the cash ..
>
> Reminds me of the water heaters which had the 'defect' .. they decided
> it was "cheaper" to pay off the explosions and screaming deaths than
> to recall.
>
> "8000 ft has been accepted as the maximum operational cabin pressure
> altitude in the airline industry."
>
> "On the basis of our findings, we conclude that maintaining a cabin
> altitude of 6,000 feet or lower (equivalent to a barometric pressure
> of 609 mm Hg or higher) on long-duration commercial flights will
> reduce the discomfort among passengers,"
>
> Cabin cruising altitudes for regular transport aircraft. [Journal
> Article]
> Aviat Space Environ Med 2008 Apr; 79(4):433-9.
>
> The adverse physiological effects of flight, caused by ascent to
> altitude and its associated reduction in barometric pressure, have
> been known since the first manned balloon flights in the 19th
> century.
> It soon became apparent that the way to protect the occupant of an
> aircraft from the effects of ascent to altitude was to enclose either
> the individual, or the cabin, in a sealed or pressurized environment.
> Of primary concern in commercial airline transport operations is the
> selection of a suitable cabin pressurization schedule that assures
> adequate oxygen partial pressures for all intended occupants.
> For the past several decades, 8000 ft has been accepted as the maximum
> operational cabin pressure altitude in the airline industry.
> More recent research findings on the physiological and psycho-
> physiological effects of mild hypoxia have provided cause for renewed
> discussion of the "acceptability" of a maximum cabin cruise altitude
> of 8000 ft; however, we did not find sufficient scientific data to
> recommend a change in the cabin altitude of transport category
> aircraft.
> The Aerospace Medical Association (AsMA) should support further
> research to evaluate the safety, performance and comfort of occupants
> at altitudes between 5000 and 10,000 ft.
>
> Aviation, space, and environmental medicine [Aviat Space Environ Med]
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Long flights cause altitude sickness
> 6 Jul 2007, 0002 hrs IST,REUTERS
>
> BOSTON: Feeling a little achy, light headed or short of breath on a
> long plane flight? A new study suggests you might be suffering from a
> mild form of altitude sickness.
>
> Until now, such symptoms had been attributed to jet lag, dehydration,
> air contamination or being stuck in a cramped seat for hours.
>
> Researchers report that true altitude sickness - with its nausea,
> vomiting and sleep disturbances - was no more likely in volunteers in
> simulated airplane cabins where the pressure was equivalent to 8,000
> feet above sea level than it was when the pressure was closer to sea
> level.
>
> But after three hours of exposure to cabin pressures equivalent to
> 7,000 to 8,000 feet, the simulated fliers were more likely than
> others to report backaches, headaches, shortness of breath, light-
> headedness
> and impaired coordination.
>
> Women and younger people were the most likely to experience symptoms.
> "On the basis of our findings, we conclude that maintaining a cabin
> altitude of 6,000 feet or lower (equivalent to a barometric pressure
> of 609 mm Hg or higher) on long-duration commercial flights will
> reduce the discomfort among passengers," wrote Michael Muhm and
> colleagues.
>
> -----------------------------------
>
> Briefs: Flying may pose risk to sleep apnea sufferers
> By Times Staff, Wires
> In print: Friday, May 23, 2008
>
> Flying may pose risk to sleep apnea sufferers
>
> People with severe obstructive sleep apnea (OSA) taking airline
> flights may have a greater risk from cardiac stress than healthy
> people, according to new research.
> The scientists compared oxygen levels and breathing by simulating
> flight conditions.
> "It is normal for the rate of breathing to increase when air pressure
> falls,'' said Leigh Seccombe, an Australian scientist.
> "We found that (for those with OSA), their breathing intensity
> increases at about the same rate as it does in healthy people." But
> the physiological stress and demand for oxygen was increased in people
> with OSA.
> "The work they do to run the core range of body functions (heart,
> lungs, brain) is much greater under cabin conditions.''
>
> Who loves ya.
> Tom
>
> Jesus Was A Vegetarian! http :// jesuswasavegetarian.7h,com
>
> Man Is A Herbivore! http :// tinyurl,com /a3cc3
>
> DEAD PEOPLE WALKING
> http :// tinyurl,com /zk9fk
On May 26, 10:34 am, ironjustice <ironjust...@cashette,com > wrote:
thrombosis <<
People are still under the assumption it is the cramped seating
conditions which causes thrombosis ..
It's not ..
Vol. 119, No. 3, 2008
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Review
Altitude and Coagulation Activation: Does Going High Provoke
Thrombosis?
J.J. van Veena, M. Makrisb
aLeicester Haemophilia Comprehensive Care Centre and Haemostasis and
Thrombosis Unit, Leicester , and
bSheffield Haemophilia and Thrombosis Centre, Sheffield, UK
Address of Corresponding Author
Acta Haematol 2008;119:156-157 (DOI: 10.1159/000128045)
Who loves ya.
Tom
Jesus Was A Vegetarian!
http :// jesuswasavegetarian.7h,com
Man Is A Herbivore!
http :// tinyurl,com /a3cc3
DEAD PEOPLE WALKING
http :// tinyurl,com /zk9fk
> They've decided to NOT raise the cabin pressure ..
> Not enough evidence ..
> They aren't counting the db's .. just the cash ..
>
> Reminds me of the water heaters which had the 'defect' .. they decided
> it was "cheaper" to pay off the explosions and screaming deaths than
> to recall.
>
> "8000 ft has been accepted as the maximum operational cabin pressure
> altitude in the airline industry."
>
> "On the basis of our findings, we conclude that maintaining a cabin
> altitude of 6,000 feet or lower (equivalent to a barometric pressure
> of 609 mm Hg or higher) on long-duration commercial flights will
> reduce the discomfort among passengers,"
>
> Cabin cruising altitudes for regular transport aircraft. [Journal
> Article]
> Aviat Space Environ Med 2008 Apr; 79(4):433-9.
>
> The adverse physiological effects of flight, caused by ascent to
> altitude and its associated reduction in barometric pressure, have
> been known since the first manned balloon flights in the 19th
> century.
> It soon became apparent that the way to protect the occupant of an
> aircraft from the effects of ascent to altitude was to enclose either
> the individual, or the cabin, in a sealed or pressurized environment.
> Of primary concern in commercial airline transport operations is the
> selection of a suitable cabin pressurization schedule that assures
> adequate oxygen partial pressures for all intended occupants.
> For the past several decades, 8000 ft has been accepted as the maximum
> operational cabin pressure altitude in the airline industry.
> More recent research findings on the physiological and psycho-
> physiological effects of mild hypoxia have provided cause for renewed
> discussion of the "acceptability" of a maximum cabin cruise altitude
> of 8000 ft; however, we did not find sufficient scientific data to
> recommend a change in the cabin altitude of transport category
> aircraft.
> The Aerospace Medical Association (AsMA) should support further
> research to evaluate the safety, performance and comfort of occupants
> at altitudes between 5000 and 10,000 ft.
>
> Aviation, space, and environmental medicine [Aviat Space Environ Med]
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Long flights cause altitude sickness
> 6 Jul 2007, 0002 hrs IST,REUTERS
>
> BOSTON: Feeling a little achy, light headed or short of breath on a
> long plane flight? A new study suggests you might be suffering from a
> mild form of altitude sickness.
>
> Until now, such symptoms had been attributed to jet lag, dehydration,
> air contamination or being stuck in a cramped seat for hours.
>
> Researchers report that true altitude sickness - with its nausea,
> vomiting and sleep disturbances - was no more likely in volunteers in
> simulated airplane cabins where the pressure was equivalent to 8,000
> feet above sea level than it was when the pressure was closer to sea
> level.
>
> But after three hours of exposure to cabin pressures equivalent to
> 7,000 to 8,000 feet, the simulated fliers were more likely than
> others to report backaches, headaches, shortness of breath, light-
> headedness
> and impaired coordination.
>
> Women and younger people were the most likely to experience symptoms.
> "On the basis of our findings, we conclude that maintaining a cabin
> altitude of 6,000 feet or lower (equivalent to a barometric pressure
> of 609 mm Hg or higher) on long-duration commercial flights will
> reduce the discomfort among passengers," wrote Michael Muhm and
> colleagues.
>
> -----------------------------------
>
> Briefs: Flying may pose risk to sleep apnea sufferers
> By Times Staff, Wires
> In print: Friday, May 23, 2008
>
> Flying may pose risk to sleep apnea sufferers
>
> People with severe obstructive sleep apnea (OSA) taking airline
> flights may have a greater risk from cardiac stress than healthy
> people, according to new research.
> The scientists compared oxygen levels and breathing by simulating
> flight conditions.
> "It is normal for the rate of breathing to increase when air pressure
> falls,'' said Leigh Seccombe, an Australian scientist.
> "We found that (for those with OSA), their breathing intensity
> increases at about the same rate as it does in healthy people." But
> the physiological stress and demand for oxygen was increased in people
> with OSA.
> "The work they do to run the core range of body functions (heart,
> lungs, brain) is much greater under cabin conditions.''
>
> Who loves ya.
> Tom
>
> Jesus Was A Vegetarian! http :// jesuswasavegetarian.7h,com
>
> Man Is A Herbivore! http :// tinyurl,com /a3cc3
>
> DEAD PEOPLE WALKING
> http :// tinyurl,com /zk9fk
Re: Flying and Dying
On May 28, 8:13 am, ironjustice <teamtan...@hotmail,com >
wrote:thrombosis <<
Predisposed to thrombosis through .. too many red blood cell /
erythrocytosis .. polycythemia ..
"The patient with cerebral venous thrombosis described by Fujimaki et
al3 was severely polycythemic."
http :// tinyurl,com /6q7t8c
Who loves ya.
Tom
Jesus Was A Vegetarian!
http :// jesuswasavegetarian.7h,com
Man Is A Herbivore!
http :// tinyurl,com /a3cc3
DEAD PEOPLE WALKING
http :// tinyurl,com /zk9fk
> On May 26, 10:34 am, ironjustice <ironjust...@cashette,com > wrote:
> thrombosis <<
>
> People are still under the assumption it is the cramped seating
> conditions which causes thrombosis ..
>
> It's not ..
>
> Vol. 119, No. 3, 2008
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Review
>
> Altitude and Coagulation Activation: Does Going High Provoke
> Thrombosis?
> J.J. van Veena, M. Makrisb
>
> aLeicester Haemophilia Comprehensive Care Centre and Haemostasis and
> Thrombosis Unit, Leicester , and
> bSheffield Haemophilia and Thrombosis Centre, Sheffield, UK
>
> Address of Corresponding Author
>
> Acta Haematol 2008;119:156-157 (DOI: 10.1159/000128045)
>
> Who loves ya.
> Tom
>
> Jesus Was A Vegetarian! http :// jesuswasavegetarian.7h,com
>
> Man Is A Herbivore! http :// tinyurl,com /a3cc3
>
> DEAD PEOPLE WALKING
> http :// tinyurl,com /zk9fk
>
>
>
> > They've decided to NOT raise the cabin pressure ..
> > Not enough evidence ..
> > They aren't counting the db's .. just the cash ..
>
> > Reminds me of the water heaters which had the 'defect' .. they decided
> > it was "cheaper" to pay off the explosions and screaming deaths than
> > to recall.
>
> > "8000 ft has been accepted as the maximum operational cabin pressure
> > altitude in the airline industry."
>
> > "On the basis of our findings, we conclude that maintaining a cabin
> > altitude of 6,000 feet or lower (equivalent to a barometric pressure
> > of 609 mm Hg or higher) on long-duration commercial flights will
> > reduce the discomfort among passengers,"
>
> > Cabin cruising altitudes for regular transport aircraft. [Journal
> > Article]
> > Aviat Space Environ Med 2008 Apr; 79(4):433-9.
>
> > The adverse physiological effects of flight, caused by ascent to
> > altitude and its associated reduction in barometric pressure, have
> > been known since the first manned balloon flights in the 19th
> > century.
> > It soon became apparent that the way to protect the occupant of an
> > aircraft from the effects of ascent to altitude was to enclose either
> > the individual, or the cabin, in a sealed or pressurized environment.
> > Of primary concern in commercial airline transport operations is the
> > selection of a suitable cabin pressurization schedule that assures
> > adequate oxygen partial pressures for all intended occupants.
> > For the past several decades, 8000 ft has been accepted as the maximum
> > operational cabin pressure altitude in the airline industry.
> > More recent research findings on the physiological and psycho-
> > physiological effects of mild hypoxia have provided cause for renewed
> > discussion of the "acceptability" of a maximum cabin cruise altitude
> > of 8000 ft; however, we did not find sufficient scientific data to
> > recommend a change in the cabin altitude of transport category
> > aircraft.
> > The Aerospace Medical Association (AsMA) should support further
> > research to evaluate the safety, performance and comfort of occupants
> > at altitudes between 5000 and 10,000 ft.
>
> > Aviation, space, and environmental medicine [Aviat Space Environ Med]
> > --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> > Long flights cause altitude sickness
> > 6 Jul 2007, 0002 hrs IST,REUTERS
>
> > BOSTON: Feeling a little achy, light headed or short of breath on a
> > long plane flight? A new study suggests you might be suffering from a
> > mild form of altitude sickness.
>
> > Until now, such symptoms had been attributed to jet lag, dehydration,
> > air contamination or being stuck in a cramped seat for hours.
>
> > Researchers report that true altitude sickness - with its nausea,
> > vomiting and sleep disturbances - was no more likely in volunteers in
> > simulated airplane cabins where the pressure was equivalent to 8,000
> > feet above sea level than it was when the pressure was closer to sea
> > level.
>
> > But after three hours of exposure to cabin pressures equivalent to
> > 7,000 to 8,000 feet, the simulated fliers were more likely than
> > others to report backaches, headaches, shortness of breath, light-
> > headedness
> > and impaired coordination.
>
> > Women and younger people were the most likely to experience symptoms.
> > "On the basis of our findings, we conclude that maintaining a cabin
> > altitude of 6,000 feet or lower (equivalent to a barometric pressure
> > of 609 mm Hg or higher) on long-duration commercial flights will
> > reduce the discomfort among passengers," wrote Michael Muhm and
> > colleagues.
>
> > -----------------------------------
>
> > Briefs: Flying may pose risk to sleep apnea sufferers
> > By Times Staff, Wires
> > In print: Friday, May 23, 2008
>
> > Flying may pose risk to sleep apnea sufferers
>
> > People with severe obstructive sleep apnea (OSA) taking airline
> > flights may have a greater risk from cardiac stress than healthy
> > people, according to new research.
> > The scientists compared oxygen levels and breathing by simulating
> > flight conditions.
> > "It is normal for the rate of breathing to increase when air pressure
> > falls,'' said Leigh Seccombe, an Australian scientist.
> > "We found that (for those with OSA), their breathing intensity
> > increases at about the same rate as it does in healthy people." But
> > the physiological stress and demand for oxygen was increased in people
> > with OSA.
> > "The work they do to run the core range of body functions (heart,
> > lungs, brain) is much greater under cabin conditions.''
>
> > Who loves ya.
> > Tom
>
> > Jesus Was A Vegetarian! http :// jesuswasavegetarian.7h,com
>
> > Man Is A Herbivore! http :// tinyurl,com /a3cc3
>
> > DEAD PEOPLE WALKING
> > http :// tinyurl,com /zk9fk- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
On May 28, 8:13 am, ironjustice <teamtan...@hotmail,com >
wrote:thrombosis <<
Predisposed to thrombosis through .. too many red blood cell /
erythrocytosis .. polycythemia ..
"The patient with cerebral venous thrombosis described by Fujimaki et
al3 was severely polycythemic."
http :// tinyurl,com /6q7t8c
Who loves ya.
Tom
Jesus Was A Vegetarian!
http :// jesuswasavegetarian.7h,com
Man Is A Herbivore!
http :// tinyurl,com /a3cc3
DEAD PEOPLE WALKING
http :// tinyurl,com /zk9fk
> On May 26, 10:34 am, ironjustice <ironjust...@cashette,com > wrote:
> thrombosis <<
>
> People are still under the assumption it is the cramped seating
> conditions which causes thrombosis ..
>
> It's not ..
>
> Vol. 119, No. 3, 2008
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Review
>
> Altitude and Coagulation Activation: Does Going High Provoke
> Thrombosis?
> J.J. van Veena, M. Makrisb
>
> aLeicester Haemophilia Comprehensive Care Centre and Haemostasis and
> Thrombosis Unit, Leicester , and
> bSheffield Haemophilia and Thrombosis Centre, Sheffield, UK
>
> Address of Corresponding Author
>
> Acta Haematol 2008;119:156-157 (DOI: 10.1159/000128045)
>
> Who loves ya.
> Tom
>
> Jesus Was A Vegetarian! http :// jesuswasavegetarian.7h,com
>
> Man Is A Herbivore! http :// tinyurl,com /a3cc3
>
> DEAD PEOPLE WALKING
> http :// tinyurl,com /zk9fk
>
>
>
> > They've decided to NOT raise the cabin pressure ..
> > Not enough evidence ..
> > They aren't counting the db's .. just the cash ..
>
> > Reminds me of the water heaters which had the 'defect' .. they decided
> > it was "cheaper" to pay off the explosions and screaming deaths than
> > to recall.
>
> > "8000 ft has been accepted as the maximum operational cabin pressure
> > altitude in the airline industry."
>
> > "On the basis of our findings, we conclude that maintaining a cabin
> > altitude of 6,000 feet or lower (equivalent to a barometric pressure
> > of 609 mm Hg or higher) on long-duration commercial flights will
> > reduce the discomfort among passengers,"
>
> > Cabin cruising altitudes for regular transport aircraft. [Journal
> > Article]
> > Aviat Space Environ Med 2008 Apr; 79(4):433-9.
>
> > The adverse physiological effects of flight, caused by ascent to
> > altitude and its associated reduction in barometric pressure, have
> > been known since the first manned balloon flights in the 19th
> > century.
> > It soon became apparent that the way to protect the occupant of an
> > aircraft from the effects of ascent to altitude was to enclose either
> > the individual, or the cabin, in a sealed or pressurized environment.
> > Of primary concern in commercial airline transport operations is the
> > selection of a suitable cabin pressurization schedule that assures
> > adequate oxygen partial pressures for all intended occupants.
> > For the past several decades, 8000 ft has been accepted as the maximum
> > operational cabin pressure altitude in the airline industry.
> > More recent research findings on the physiological and psycho-
> > physiological effects of mild hypoxia have provided cause for renewed
> > discussion of the "acceptability" of a maximum cabin cruise altitude
> > of 8000 ft; however, we did not find sufficient scientific data to
> > recommend a change in the cabin altitude of transport category
> > aircraft.
> > The Aerospace Medical Association (AsMA) should support further
> > research to evaluate the safety, performance and comfort of occupants
> > at altitudes between 5000 and 10,000 ft.
>
> > Aviation, space, and environmental medicine [Aviat Space Environ Med]
> > --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> > Long flights cause altitude sickness
> > 6 Jul 2007, 0002 hrs IST,REUTERS
>
> > BOSTON: Feeling a little achy, light headed or short of breath on a
> > long plane flight? A new study suggests you might be suffering from a
> > mild form of altitude sickness.
>
> > Until now, such symptoms had been attributed to jet lag, dehydration,
> > air contamination or being stuck in a cramped seat for hours.
>
> > Researchers report that true altitude sickness - with its nausea,
> > vomiting and sleep disturbances - was no more likely in volunteers in
> > simulated airplane cabins where the pressure was equivalent to 8,000
> > feet above sea level than it was when the pressure was closer to sea
> > level.
>
> > But after three hours of exposure to cabin pressures equivalent to
> > 7,000 to 8,000 feet, the simulated fliers were more likely than
> > others to report backaches, headaches, shortness of breath, light-
> > headedness
> > and impaired coordination.
>
> > Women and younger people were the most likely to experience symptoms.
> > "On the basis of our findings, we conclude that maintaining a cabin
> > altitude of 6,000 feet or lower (equivalent to a barometric pressure
> > of 609 mm Hg or higher) on long-duration commercial flights will
> > reduce the discomfort among passengers," wrote Michael Muhm and
> > colleagues.
>
> > -----------------------------------
>
> > Briefs: Flying may pose risk to sleep apnea sufferers
> > By Times Staff, Wires
> > In print: Friday, May 23, 2008
>
> > Flying may pose risk to sleep apnea sufferers
>
> > People with severe obstructive sleep apnea (OSA) taking airline
> > flights may have a greater risk from cardiac stress than healthy
> > people, according to new research.
> > The scientists compared oxygen levels and breathing by simulating
> > flight conditions.
> > "It is normal for the rate of breathing to increase when air pressure
> > falls,'' said Leigh Seccombe, an Australian scientist.
> > "We found that (for those with OSA), their breathing intensity
> > increases at about the same rate as it does in healthy people." But
> > the physiological stress and demand for oxygen was increased in people
> > with OSA.
> > "The work they do to run the core range of body functions (heart,
> > lungs, brain) is much greater under cabin conditions.''
>
> > Who loves ya.
> > Tom
>
> > Jesus Was A Vegetarian! http :// jesuswasavegetarian.7h,com
>
> > Man Is A Herbivore! http :// tinyurl,com /a3cc3
>
> > DEAD PEOPLE WALKING
> > http :// tinyurl,com /zk9fk- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
Re: Flying and Dying
On May 28, 8:14 am, ironjustice <teamtan...@hotmail,com > wrote:
thrombosis <<
"Symptoms usually begin 6-24 hours after arrival"
http :// www .rnceus,com /altitude/sickness.html
Who loves ya.
Tom
Jesus Was A Vegetarian!
http :// jesuswasavegetarian.7h,com
Man Is A Herbivore!
http :// tinyurl,com /a3cc3
DEAD PEOPLE WALKING
http :// tinyurl,com /zk9fk
> On May 26, 10:34 am, ironjustice <ironjust...@cashette,com > wrote:
> thrombosis <<
>
> People are still under the assumption it is the cramped seating
> conditions which causes thrombosis ..
>
> It's not ..
>
> Vol. 119, No. 3, 2008
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Review
>
> Altitude and Coagulation Activation: Does Going High Provoke
> Thrombosis?
> J.J. van Veena, M. Makrisb
>
> aLeicester Haemophilia Comprehensive Care Centre and Haemostasis and
> Thrombosis Unit, Leicester , and
> bSheffield Haemophilia and Thrombosis Centre, Sheffield, UK
>
> Address of Corresponding Author
>
> Acta Haematol 2008;119:156-157 (DOI: 10.1159/000128045)
>
> Who loves ya.
> Tom
>
> Jesus Was A Vegetarian! http :// jesuswasavegetarian.7h,com
>
> Man Is A Herbivore! http :// tinyurl,com /a3cc3
>
> DEAD PEOPLE WALKING
> http :// tinyurl,com /zk9fk
>
>
>
> > They've decided to NOT raise the cabin pressure ..
> > Not enough evidence ..
> > They aren't counting the db's .. just the cash ..
>
> > Reminds me of the water heaters which had the 'defect' .. they decided
> > it was "cheaper" to pay off the explosions and screaming deaths than
> > to recall.
>
> > "8000 ft has been accepted as the maximum operational cabin pressure
> > altitude in the airline industry."
>
> > "On the basis of our findings, we conclude that maintaining a cabin
> > altitude of 6,000 feet or lower (equivalent to a barometric pressure
> > of 609 mm Hg or higher) on long-duration commercial flights will
> > reduce the discomfort among passengers,"
>
> > Cabin cruising altitudes for regular transport aircraft. [Journal
> > Article]
> > Aviat Space Environ Med 2008 Apr; 79(4):433-9.
>
> > The adverse physiological effects of flight, caused by ascent to
> > altitude and its associated reduction in barometric pressure, have
> > been known since the first manned balloon flights in the 19th
> > century.
> > It soon became apparent that the way to protect the occupant of an
> > aircraft from the effects of ascent to altitude was to enclose either
> > the individual, or the cabin, in a sealed or pressurized environment.
> > Of primary concern in commercial airline transport operations is the
> > selection of a suitable cabin pressurization schedule that assures
> > adequate oxygen partial pressures for all intended occupants.
> > For the past several decades, 8000 ft has been accepted as the maximum
> > operational cabin pressure altitude in the airline industry.
> > More recent research findings on the physiological and psycho-
> > physiological effects of mild hypoxia have provided cause for renewed
> > discussion of the "acceptability" of a maximum cabin cruise altitude
> > of 8000 ft; however, we did not find sufficient scientific data to
> > recommend a change in the cabin altitude of transport category
> > aircraft.
> > The Aerospace Medical Association (AsMA) should support further
> > research to evaluate the safety, performance and comfort of occupants
> > at altitudes between 5000 and 10,000 ft.
>
> > Aviation, space, and environmental medicine [Aviat Space Environ Med]
> > --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> > Long flights cause altitude sickness
> > 6 Jul 2007, 0002 hrs IST,REUTERS
>
> > BOSTON: Feeling a little achy, light headed or short of breath on a
> > long plane flight? A new study suggests you might be suffering from a
> > mild form of altitude sickness.
>
> > Until now, such symptoms had been attributed to jet lag, dehydration,
> > air contamination or being stuck in a cramped seat for hours.
>
> > Researchers report that true altitude sickness - with its nausea,
> > vomiting and sleep disturbances - was no more likely in volunteers in
> > simulated airplane cabins where the pressure was equivalent to 8,000
> > feet above sea level than it was when the pressure was closer to sea
> > level.
>
> > But after three hours of exposure to cabin pressures equivalent to
> > 7,000 to 8,000 feet, the simulated fliers were more likely than
> > others to report backaches, headaches, shortness of breath, light-
> > headedness
> > and impaired coordination.
>
> > Women and younger people were the most likely to experience symptoms.
> > "On the basis of our findings, we conclude that maintaining a cabin
> > altitude of 6,000 feet or lower (equivalent to a barometric pressure
> > of 609 mm Hg or higher) on long-duration commercial flights will
> > reduce the discomfort among passengers," wrote Michael Muhm and
> > colleagues.
>
> > -----------------------------------
>
> > Briefs: Flying may pose risk to sleep apnea sufferers
> > By Times Staff, Wires
> > In print: Friday, May 23, 2008
>
> > Flying may pose risk to sleep apnea sufferers
>
> > People with severe obstructive sleep apnea (OSA) taking airline
> > flights may have a greater risk from cardiac stress than healthy
> > people, according to new research.
> > The scientists compared oxygen levels and breathing by simulating
> > flight conditions.
> > "It is normal for the rate of breathing to increase when air pressure
> > falls,'' said Leigh Seccombe, an Australian scientist.
> > "We found that (for those with OSA), their breathing intensity
> > increases at about the same rate as it does in healthy people." But
> > the physiological stress and demand for oxygen was increased in people
> > with OSA.
> > "The work they do to run the core range of body functions (heart,
> > lungs, brain) is much greater under cabin conditions.''
>
> > Who loves ya.
> > Tom
>
> > Jesus Was A Vegetarian! http :// jesuswasavegetarian.7h,com
>
> > Man Is A Herbivore! http :// tinyurl,com /a3cc3
>
> > DEAD PEOPLE WALKING
> > http :// tinyurl,com /zk9fk- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
On May 28, 8:14 am, ironjustice <teamtan...@hotmail,com > wrote:
thrombosis <<
"Symptoms usually begin 6-24 hours after arrival"
http :// www .rnceus,com /altitude/sickness.html
Who loves ya.
Tom
Jesus Was A Vegetarian!
http :// jesuswasavegetarian.7h,com
Man Is A Herbivore!
http :// tinyurl,com /a3cc3
DEAD PEOPLE WALKING
http :// tinyurl,com /zk9fk
> On May 26, 10:34 am, ironjustice <ironjust...@cashette,com > wrote:
> thrombosis <<
>
> People are still under the assumption it is the cramped seating
> conditions which causes thrombosis ..
>
> It's not ..
>
> Vol. 119, No. 3, 2008
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Review
>
> Altitude and Coagulation Activation: Does Going High Provoke
> Thrombosis?
> J.J. van Veena, M. Makrisb
>
> aLeicester Haemophilia Comprehensive Care Centre and Haemostasis and
> Thrombosis Unit, Leicester , and
> bSheffield Haemophilia and Thrombosis Centre, Sheffield, UK
>
> Address of Corresponding Author
>
> Acta Haematol 2008;119:156-157 (DOI: 10.1159/000128045)
>
> Who loves ya.
> Tom
>
> Jesus Was A Vegetarian! http :// jesuswasavegetarian.7h,com
>
> Man Is A Herbivore! http :// tinyurl,com /a3cc3
>
> DEAD PEOPLE WALKING
> http :// tinyurl,com /zk9fk
>
>
>
> > They've decided to NOT raise the cabin pressure ..
> > Not enough evidence ..
> > They aren't counting the db's .. just the cash ..
>
> > Reminds me of the water heaters which had the 'defect' .. they decided
> > it was "cheaper" to pay off the explosions and screaming deaths than
> > to recall.
>
> > "8000 ft has been accepted as the maximum operational cabin pressure
> > altitude in the airline industry."
>
> > "On the basis of our findings, we conclude that maintaining a cabin
> > altitude of 6,000 feet or lower (equivalent to a barometric pressure
> > of 609 mm Hg or higher) on long-duration commercial flights will
> > reduce the discomfort among passengers,"
>
> > Cabin cruising altitudes for regular transport aircraft. [Journal
> > Article]
> > Aviat Space Environ Med 2008 Apr; 79(4):433-9.
>
> > The adverse physiological effects of flight, caused by ascent to
> > altitude and its associated reduction in barometric pressure, have
> > been known since the first manned balloon flights in the 19th
> > century.
> > It soon became apparent that the way to protect the occupant of an
> > aircraft from the effects of ascent to altitude was to enclose either
> > the individual, or the cabin, in a sealed or pressurized environment.
> > Of primary concern in commercial airline transport operations is the
> > selection of a suitable cabin pressurization schedule that assures
> > adequate oxygen partial pressures for all intended occupants.
> > For the past several decades, 8000 ft has been accepted as the maximum
> > operational cabin pressure altitude in the airline industry.
> > More recent research findings on the physiological and psycho-
> > physiological effects of mild hypoxia have provided cause for renewed
> > discussion of the "acceptability" of a maximum cabin cruise altitude
> > of 8000 ft; however, we did not find sufficient scientific data to
> > recommend a change in the cabin altitude of transport category
> > aircraft.
> > The Aerospace Medical Association (AsMA) should support further
> > research to evaluate the safety, performance and comfort of occupants
> > at altitudes between 5000 and 10,000 ft.
>
> > Aviation, space, and environmental medicine [Aviat Space Environ Med]
> > --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> > Long flights cause altitude sickness
> > 6 Jul 2007, 0002 hrs IST,REUTERS
>
> > BOSTON: Feeling a little achy, light headed or short of breath on a
> > long plane flight? A new study suggests you might be suffering from a
> > mild form of altitude sickness.
>
> > Until now, such symptoms had been attributed to jet lag, dehydration,
> > air contamination or being stuck in a cramped seat for hours.
>
> > Researchers report that true altitude sickness - with its nausea,
> > vomiting and sleep disturbances - was no more likely in volunteers in
> > simulated airplane cabins where the pressure was equivalent to 8,000
> > feet above sea level than it was when the pressure was closer to sea
> > level.
>
> > But after three hours of exposure to cabin pressures equivalent to
> > 7,000 to 8,000 feet, the simulated fliers were more likely than
> > others to report backaches, headaches, shortness of breath, light-
> > headedness
> > and impaired coordination.
>
> > Women and younger people were the most likely to experience symptoms.
> > "On the basis of our findings, we conclude that maintaining a cabin
> > altitude of 6,000 feet or lower (equivalent to a barometric pressure
> > of 609 mm Hg or higher) on long-duration commercial flights will
> > reduce the discomfort among passengers," wrote Michael Muhm and
> > colleagues.
>
> > -----------------------------------
>
> > Briefs: Flying may pose risk to sleep apnea sufferers
> > By Times Staff, Wires
> > In print: Friday, May 23, 2008
>
> > Flying may pose risk to sleep apnea sufferers
>
> > People with severe obstructive sleep apnea (OSA) taking airline
> > flights may have a greater risk from cardiac stress than healthy
> > people, according to new research.
> > The scientists compared oxygen levels and breathing by simulating
> > flight conditions.
> > "It is normal for the rate of breathing to increase when air pressure
> > falls,'' said Leigh Seccombe, an Australian scientist.
> > "We found that (for those with OSA), their breathing intensity
> > increases at about the same rate as it does in healthy people." But
> > the physiological stress and demand for oxygen was increased in people
> > with OSA.
> > "The work they do to run the core range of body functions (heart,
> > lungs, brain) is much greater under cabin conditions.''
>
> > Who loves ya.
> > Tom
>
> > Jesus Was A Vegetarian! http :// jesuswasavegetarian.7h,com
>
> > Man Is A Herbivore! http :// tinyurl,com /a3cc3
>
> > DEAD PEOPLE WALKING
> > http :// tinyurl,com /zk9fk- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
Re: Flying and Dying
On May 28, 8:55 am, ironjustice <teamtan...@hotmail,com > wrote:
"Symptoms usually begin 6-24 hours after arrival"
http :// tinyurl,com /4u4mp3
"The coalition recommends these measures for all passengers on flights
of six or more hours: "
Who loves ya.
Tom
Jesus Was A Vegetarian!
http :// jesuswasavegetarian.7h,com
Man Is A Herbivore!
http :// tinyurl,com /a3cc3
DEAD PEOPLE WALKING
http :// tinyurl,com /zk9fk
> On May 28, 8:14 am, ironjustice <teamtan...@hotmail,com > wrote:
> thrombosis <<
>
> "Symptoms usually begin 6-24 hours after arrival"
>
> http :// www .rnceus,com /altitude/sickness.html
>
> Who loves ya.
> Tom
>
> Jesus Was A Vegetarian! http :// jesuswasavegetarian.7h,com
>
> Man Is A Herbivore! http :// tinyurl,com /a3cc3
>
> DEAD PEOPLE WALKING
> http :// tinyurl,com /zk9fk
>
>
>
> > On May 26, 10:34 am, ironjustice <ironjust...@cashette,com > wrote:
> > thrombosis <<
>
> > People are still under the assumption it is the cramped seating
> > conditions which causes thrombosis ..
>
> > It's not ..
>
> > Vol. 119, No. 3, 2008
> > --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> > Review
>
> > Altitude and Coagulation Activation: Does Going High Provoke
> > Thrombosis?
> > J.J. van Veena, M. Makrisb
>
> > aLeicester Haemophilia Comprehensive Care Centre and Haemostasis and
> > Thrombosis Unit, Leicester , and
> > bSheffield Haemophilia and Thrombosis Centre, Sheffield, UK
>
> > Address of Corresponding Author
>
> > Acta Haematol 2008;119:156-157 (DOI: 10.1159/000128045)
>
> > Who loves ya.
> > Tom
>
> > Jesus Was A Vegetarian! http :// jesuswasavegetarian.7h,com
>
> > Man Is A Herbivore! http :// tinyurl,com /a3cc3
>
> > DEAD PEOPLE WALKING
> > http :// tinyurl,com /zk9fk
>
> > > They've decided to NOT raise the cabin pressure ..
> > > Not enough evidence ..
> > > They aren't counting the db's .. just the cash ..
>
> > > Reminds me of the water heaters which had the 'defect' .. they decided
> > > it was "cheaper" to pay off the explosions and screaming deaths than
> > > to recall.
>
> > > "8000 ft has been accepted as the maximum operational cabin pressure
> > > altitude in the airline industry."
>
> > > "On the basis of our findings, we conclude that maintaining a cabin
> > > altitude of 6,000 feet or lower (equivalent to a barometric pressure
> > > of 609 mm Hg or higher) on long-duration commercial flights will
> > > reduce the discomfort among passengers,"
>
> > > Cabin cruising altitudes for regular transport aircraft. [Journal
> > > Article]
> > > Aviat Space Environ Med 2008 Apr; 79(4):433-9.
>
> > > The adverse physiological effects of flight, caused by ascent to
> > > altitude and its associated reduction in barometric pressure, have
> > > been known since the first manned balloon flights in the 19th
> > > century.
> > > It soon became apparent that the way to protect the occupant of an
> > > aircraft from the effects of ascent to altitude was to enclose either
> > > the individual, or the cabin, in a sealed or pressurized environment.
> > > Of primary concern in commercial airline transport operations is the
> > > selection of a suitable cabin pressurization schedule that assures
> > > adequate oxygen partial pressures for all intended occupants.
> > > For the past several decades, 8000 ft has been accepted as the maximum
> > > operational cabin pressure altitude in the airline industry.
> > > More recent research findings on the physiological and psycho-
> > > physiological effects of mild hypoxia have provided cause for renewed
> > > discussion of the "acceptability" of a maximum cabin cruise altitude
> > > of 8000 ft; however, we did not find sufficient scientific data to
> > > recommend a change in the cabin altitude of transport category
> > > aircraft.
> > > The Aerospace Medical Association (AsMA) should support further
> > > research to evaluate the safety, performance and comfort of occupants
> > > at altitudes between 5000 and 10,000 ft.
>
> > > Aviation, space, and environmental medicine [Aviat Space Environ Med]
> > > --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> > > Long flights cause altitude sickness
> > > 6 Jul 2007, 0002 hrs IST,REUTERS
>
> > > BOSTON: Feeling a little achy, light headed or short of breath on a
> > > long plane flight? A new study suggests you might be suffering from a
> > > mild form of altitude sickness.
>
> > > Until now, such symptoms had been attributed to jet lag, dehydration,
> > > air contamination or being stuck in a cramped seat for hours.
>
> > > Researchers report that true altitude sickness - with its nausea,
> > > vomiting and sleep disturbances - was no more likely in volunteers in
> > > simulated airplane cabins where the pressure was equivalent to 8,000
> > > feet above sea level than it was when the pressure was closer to sea
> > > level.
>
> > > But after three hours of exposure to cabin pressures equivalent to
> > > 7,000 to 8,000 feet, the simulated fliers were more likely than
> > > others to report backaches, headaches, shortness of breath, light-
> > > headedness
> > > and impaired coordination.
>
> > > Women and younger people were the most likely to experience symptoms.
> > > "On the basis of our findings, we conclude that maintaining a cabin
> > > altitude of 6,000 feet or lower (equivalent to a barometric pressure
> > > of 609 mm Hg or higher) on long-duration commercial flights will
> > > reduce the discomfort among passengers," wrote Michael Muhm and
> > > colleagues.
>
> > > -----------------------------------
>
> > > Briefs: Flying may pose risk to sleep apnea sufferers
> > > By Times Staff, Wires
> > > In print: Friday, May 23, 2008
>
> > > Flying may pose risk to sleep apnea sufferers
>
> > > People with severe obstructive sleep apnea (OSA) taking airline
> > > flights may have a greater risk from cardiac stress than healthy
> > > people, according to new research.
> > > The scientists compared oxygen levels and breathing by simulating
> > > flight conditions.
> > > "It is normal for the rate of breathing to increase when air pressure
> > > falls,'' said Leigh Seccombe, an Australian scientist.
> > > "We found that (for those with OSA), their breathing intensity
> > > increases at about the same rate as it does in healthy people." But
> > > the physiological stress and demand for oxygen was increased in people
> > > with OSA.
> > > "The work they do to run the core range of body functions (heart,
> > > lungs, brain) is much greater under cabin conditions.''
>
> > > Who loves ya.
> > > Tom
>
> > > Jesus Was A Vegetarian! http :// jesuswasavegetarian.7h,com
>
> > > Man Is A Herbivore! http :// tinyurl,com /a3cc3
>
> > > DEAD PEOPLE WALKING
> > > http :// tinyurl,com /zk9fk-Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
On May 28, 8:55 am, ironjustice <teamtan...@hotmail,com > wrote:
"Symptoms usually begin 6-24 hours after arrival"
http :// tinyurl,com /4u4mp3
"The coalition recommends these measures for all passengers on flights
of six or more hours: "
Who loves ya.
Tom
Jesus Was A Vegetarian!
http :// jesuswasavegetarian.7h,com
Man Is A Herbivore!
http :// tinyurl,com /a3cc3
DEAD PEOPLE WALKING
http :// tinyurl,com /zk9fk
> On May 28, 8:14 am, ironjustice <teamtan...@hotmail,com > wrote:
> thrombosis <<
>
> "Symptoms usually begin 6-24 hours after arrival"
>
> http :// www .rnceus,com /altitude/sickness.html
>
> Who loves ya.
> Tom
>
> Jesus Was A Vegetarian! http :// jesuswasavegetarian.7h,com
>
> Man Is A Herbivore! http :// tinyurl,com /a3cc3
>
> DEAD PEOPLE WALKING
> http :// tinyurl,com /zk9fk
>
>
>
> > On May 26, 10:34 am, ironjustice <ironjust...@cashette,com > wrote:
> > thrombosis <<
>
> > People are still under the assumption it is the cramped seating
> > conditions which causes thrombosis ..
>
> > It's not ..
>
> > Vol. 119, No. 3, 2008
> > --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> > Review
>
> > Altitude and Coagulation Activation: Does Going High Provoke
> > Thrombosis?
> > J.J. van Veena, M. Makrisb
>
> > aLeicester Haemophilia Comprehensive Care Centre and Haemostasis and
> > Thrombosis Unit, Leicester , and
> > bSheffield Haemophilia and Thrombosis Centre, Sheffield, UK
>
> > Address of Corresponding Author
>
> > Acta Haematol 2008;119:156-157 (DOI: 10.1159/000128045)
>
> > Who loves ya.
> > Tom
>
> > Jesus Was A Vegetarian! http :// jesuswasavegetarian.7h,com
>
> > Man Is A Herbivore! http :// tinyurl,com /a3cc3
>
> > DEAD PEOPLE WALKING
> > http :// tinyurl,com /zk9fk
>
> > > They've decided to NOT raise the cabin pressure ..
> > > Not enough evidence ..
> > > They aren't counting the db's .. just the cash ..
>
> > > Reminds me of the water heaters which had the 'defect' .. they decided
> > > it was "cheaper" to pay off the explosions and screaming deaths than
> > > to recall.
>
> > > "8000 ft has been accepted as the maximum operational cabin pressure
> > > altitude in the airline industry."
>
> > > "On the basis of our findings, we conclude that maintaining a cabin
> > > altitude of 6,000 feet or lower (equivalent to a barometric pressure
> > > of 609 mm Hg or higher) on long-duration commercial flights will
> > > reduce the discomfort among passengers,"
>
> > > Cabin cruising altitudes for regular transport aircraft. [Journal
> > > Article]
> > > Aviat Space Environ Med 2008 Apr; 79(4):433-9.
>
> > > The adverse physiological effects of flight, caused by ascent to
> > > altitude and its associated reduction in barometric pressure, have
> > > been known since the first manned balloon flights in the 19th
> > > century.
> > > It soon became apparent that the way to protect the occupant of an
> > > aircraft from the effects of ascent to altitude was to enclose either
> > > the individual, or the cabin, in a sealed or pressurized environment.
> > > Of primary concern in commercial airline transport operations is the
> > > selection of a suitable cabin pressurization schedule that assures
> > > adequate oxygen partial pressures for all intended occupants.
> > > For the past several decades, 8000 ft has been accepted as the maximum
> > > operational cabin pressure altitude in the airline industry.
> > > More recent research findings on the physiological and psycho-
> > > physiological effects of mild hypoxia have provided cause for renewed
> > > discussion of the "acceptability" of a maximum cabin cruise altitude
> > > of 8000 ft; however, we did not find sufficient scientific data to
> > > recommend a change in the cabin altitude of transport category
> > > aircraft.
> > > The Aerospace Medical Association (AsMA) should support further
> > > research to evaluate the safety, performance and comfort of occupants
> > > at altitudes between 5000 and 10,000 ft.
>
> > > Aviation, space, and environmental medicine [Aviat Space Environ Med]
> > > --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> > > Long flights cause altitude sickness
> > > 6 Jul 2007, 0002 hrs IST,REUTERS
>
> > > BOSTON: Feeling a little achy, light headed or short of breath on a
> > > long plane flight? A new study suggests you might be suffering from a
> > > mild form of altitude sickness.
>
> > > Until now, such symptoms had been attributed to jet lag, dehydration,
> > > air contamination or being stuck in a cramped seat for hours.
>
> > > Researchers report that true altitude sickness - with its nausea,
> > > vomiting and sleep disturbances - was no more likely in volunteers in
> > > simulated airplane cabins where the pressure was equivalent to 8,000
> > > feet above sea level than it was when the pressure was closer to sea
> > > level.
>
> > > But after three hours of exposure to cabin pressures equivalent to
> > > 7,000 to 8,000 feet, the simulated fliers were more likely than
> > > others to report backaches, headaches, shortness of breath, light-
> > > headedness
> > > and impaired coordination.
>
> > > Women and younger people were the most likely to experience symptoms.
> > > "On the basis of our findings, we conclude that maintaining a cabin
> > > altitude of 6,000 feet or lower (equivalent to a barometric pressure
> > > of 609 mm Hg or higher) on long-duration commercial flights will
> > > reduce the discomfort among passengers," wrote Michael Muhm and
> > > colleagues.
>
> > > -----------------------------------
>
> > > Briefs: Flying may pose risk to sleep apnea sufferers
> > > By Times Staff, Wires
> > > In print: Friday, May 23, 2008
>
> > > Flying may pose risk to sleep apnea sufferers
>
> > > People with severe obstructive sleep apnea (OSA) taking airline
> > > flights may have a greater risk from cardiac stress than healthy
> > > people, according to new research.
> > > The scientists compared oxygen levels and breathing by simulating
> > > flight conditions.
> > > "It is normal for the rate of breathing to increase when air pressure
> > > falls,'' said Leigh Seccombe, an Australian scientist.
> > > "We found that (for those with OSA), their breathing intensity
> > > increases at about the same rate as it does in healthy people." But
> > > the physiological stress and demand for oxygen was increased in people
> > > with OSA.
> > > "The work they do to run the core range of body functions (heart,
> > > lungs, brain) is much greater under cabin conditions.''
>
> > > Who loves ya.
> > > Tom
>
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>
> > > Man Is A Herbivore! http :// tinyurl,com /a3cc3
>
> > > DEAD PEOPLE WALKING
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Re: Flying and Dying
On May 28, 9:03 am, ironjustice <teamtan...@hotmail,com > wrote:
erythrocytosis <<
Sleep apnea and erythrocytosis coexist and erythrocytosis / sleep
apnea is a sign of "don't fly if you have sleep apnea" because of
thrombosis.
http :// tinyurl,com /yclscm
Thrombosis is very common in lupus .
Erythrocytosis / polycythemia causes thrombosis.
Erythrocytosis "doesn't exist in lupus" even though all the drugs
'they' sell you and all the signs and symptoms say it DOES .. .
They say they have no idea what causes the thrombosis
problems in lupus BUT you know they sell you drugs which
are KNOWN to control **erythrocytosis** .and you KNOW
erythrocytosis causes thrombosis .
You KNOW treatments which treat erythrocytosis lead to CURE in disease
which closely resembles lupus. IE: thalassemia and sickle / aplastic
anemia.
You know lupus manifests at altitude and altitude causes
erythrocytosis.
But .. erythrocytosis .. isn't .. involved IN .. lupus .. ?
Need a bridge .. ?
Another sign of .. erythrocytosis .. is .. increased blood
viscosity .. since increased red blood cell production /
erythrocytosis leads to increased blood viscosity .. thicker
more 'syrup' like blood.
Sooo .. does increased viscosity APPEAR .. in .. lupus .. ?
Yep ..
http :// serials.cib.unibo,it /cgi-ser/start/it/spogli/df-s.tcl?-
prog art=3D429= 3343&language=3DITALIANO&view=3Darticoli
Catalogo Articoli (Spogli Riviste) OPAC HELP
Titolo: Elevated blood viscosity in systemic lupus
erythematosus
Autore: Rosenson, RS; Shott, S; Katz, R; Indirizzi:
Northwestern Univ, Sch Med, Prevent Cardiol Ctr, Chicago, IL
60611 USA Northwestern Univ Chicago IL USA 60611 Cardiol Ctr,
Chicago, IL 60611 USA Rush Presbyterian St Lukes Med Ctr,
Biostat Unit, Dept Neurosurg, Chicago,IL 60612 USA Rush
Presbyterian St Lukes Med Ctr Chicago IL USA 60612 cago,IL
60612 USA Rush Presbyterian St Lukes Med Ctr, Dept Med,
Rheumatol Sect, Chicago, IL 60612 USA Rush Presbyterian St
Lukes Med Ctr Chicago IL USA 60612 ago, IL 60612 USA
Titolo Testata: SEMINARS IN ARTHRITIS AND RHEUMATISM
fascicolo: 1, volume: 31, anno: 2001, pagine: 52 - 57 SICI:
0049-0172(200108)31:1<52:EBVISL>2.0.ZU;2-L Fonte: ISI Lingua:
ENG Soggetto: EMISSION COMPUTED-TOMOGRAPHY; DISEASE
RISK-FACTORS; CARDIOVASCULAR MANIFESTATIONS; ARTERY;
LIPOPROTEIN; ANTIBODIES; COHORT; INDEX; MEN; Keywords:
systemic lupus erythematosus; blood viscosity; rheology;
cardiovascular risk; Tipo documento: Review Natura: Periodico
Settore Disciplinare: Clinical Medicine Citazioni: 34
Recensione: Indirizzi per estratti: Indirizzo: Rosenson, RS
Northwestern Univ, Sch Med, Prevent Cardiol Ctr, 250 E Super
St,Wesley 728, Chicago, IL 60611 USA Northwestern Univ 250 E
Super St,Wesley 728 Chicago IL USA 60611
--------------------------------------------------------------
--------------=
-----
Abstract
Objectives:
It has been proposed that elevated blood viscosity contributes
to atherothrombotic and thromboembolic processes.
We evaluated whether there is increased blood
viscosity in systemic lupus erythematosus (SLE) that might
contribute to cardiovascular complications and reduced tissue
perfusion.
Methods:
Blood viscosity profiles were evaluated inSLE patients to determine
whether rheologic disturbancescontribute to the cardiovascular risk
profile.
Blood viscosity profiles were evaluated in 27 patients with SLE and 46
age-
and gender-matched controls.
Blood viscosity was measured at 37 degrees C and shear rates of 1
s(-1) and 100 s(-1), then corrected to the average hematocrit of the
SLE patients.
Results.
Corrected blood viscosity values were higher in SLE patients than in
controls at 100 s(-1) (P =3D .002).
Positive correlations were found between the Systemic Lupus
Damage Index for SLE, which quantifies damage to12 organ
systems and fibrinogen (rho =3D .39; P =3D .042) and
plasma viscosity (rho=3D .38, P =3D .049).
Conclusions:
Our data indicate that = blood viscosityvalues at a standard
hematocrit are elevated in SLE patients.
Further investigations are needed to evaluate whether the
increased blood viscosity values in SLE patients contribute to
cardiovascular complications and tissue ischemia.
Clinical
Relevance: Because blood viscosity values correlate with the
clinical severity of SLE, blood viscosity may contribute to
the cardiovascular complications and reduced tissue perfusion
in SLE patients.
Copyright (C) 2001 by W.B. Saunders Company.
-----------------------------
CIB Centro Inter-Bibliotecario, Universit=E0 di Bologna,
Catalogo delle riviste ed altri periodici Documento generato
il 26/03/07 alle ore 15:23:15
International Collaborating Clinics/American College of
Rheumatology
---------------------------------
This is mere .. coincidence of course .. phlebotomy /
venesection / bloodletting .. leads to **resolution** of ..
erythematous lesions on the center of the face.
Phlebotomy / venesection / bloodletting .. is the PREFERRED ..
first treatment .. OF .. erythrocytosis ..
Coincidence .. of .. course ..
Rosacea associated with polycythemia vera: Skin lesions
improved with phlebotomy
ADSuhr,Ki-Beom; Yoon, Ji-Seong; Lee, Jeung-Hoon; Park, Jang-Kyu 1994
Annals of Dermatology 6(1): 98-101
We report a case of rosacea in a 65 year old female with a 14
year history of polycythemia vera.
The patient suffered fromseveral constitutional symptoms and
signs suggestive ofpolycythemia vera.
Six years prior to our initial examination,erythematous lesions
were first noted on the center of the
face.
These lesions exhibited periodic improvement and
exacerbation without specific treatment.
Histopathologicexamination of the facial lesions showed
nodular infiltrationof lymphocytes and histiocytes and dilation
of blood vessels.
On the basis of laboratory examination, the patient was
diagnosed as polycythemia vera.
The patient has receivedmetronidazole, tetracycline, and topical
steroids to controlrosacea- like facial lesions.
The treatment results were notsignificant.
However, phlebotomy markedly improved the skin
lesion.
To our knowledge, there are no reports describing the
clinical course of rosacea lesions following the treatment
with phlebotomy.
--------------------
Who loves ya.
Tom
Jesus Was A Vegetarian!
http :// jesuswasavegetarian.7h,com
Man Is A Herbivore!
http :// tinyurl,com /a3cc3
DEAD PEOPLE WALKING
http :// tinyurl,com /zk9fk
On May 28, 9:03 am, ironjustice <teamtan...@hotmail,com > wrote:
erythrocytosis <<
Sleep apnea and erythrocytosis coexist and erythrocytosis / sleep
apnea is a sign of "don't fly if you have sleep apnea" because of
thrombosis.
http :// tinyurl,com /yclscm
Thrombosis is very common in lupus .
Erythrocytosis / polycythemia causes thrombosis.
Erythrocytosis "doesn't exist in lupus" even though all the drugs
'they' sell you and all the signs and symptoms say it DOES .. .
They say they have no idea what causes the thrombosis
problems in lupus BUT you know they sell you drugs which
are KNOWN to control **erythrocytosis** .and you KNOW
erythrocytosis causes thrombosis .
You KNOW treatments which treat erythrocytosis lead to CURE in disease
which closely resembles lupus. IE: thalassemia and sickle / aplastic
anemia.
You know lupus manifests at altitude and altitude causes
erythrocytosis.
But .. erythrocytosis .. isn't .. involved IN .. lupus .. ?
Need a bridge .. ?
Another sign of .. erythrocytosis .. is .. increased blood
viscosity .. since increased red blood cell production /
erythrocytosis leads to increased blood viscosity .. thicker
more 'syrup' like blood.
Sooo .. does increased viscosity APPEAR .. in .. lupus .. ?
Yep ..
http :// serials.cib.unibo,it /cgi-ser/start/it/spogli/df-s.tcl?-
prog art=3D429= 3343&language=3DITALIANO&view=3Darticoli
Catalogo Articoli (Spogli Riviste) OPAC HELP
Titolo: Elevated blood viscosity in systemic lupus
erythematosus
Autore: Rosenson, RS; Shott, S; Katz, R; Indirizzi:
Northwestern Univ, Sch Med, Prevent Cardiol Ctr, Chicago, IL
60611 USA Northwestern Univ Chicago IL USA 60611 Cardiol Ctr,
Chicago, IL 60611 USA Rush Presbyterian St Lukes Med Ctr,
Biostat Unit, Dept Neurosurg, Chicago,IL 60612 USA Rush
Presbyterian St Lukes Med Ctr Chicago IL USA 60612 cago,IL
60612 USA Rush Presbyterian St Lukes Med Ctr, Dept Med,
Rheumatol Sect, Chicago, IL 60612 USA Rush Presbyterian St
Lukes Med Ctr Chicago IL USA 60612 ago, IL 60612 USA
Titolo Testata: SEMINARS IN ARTHRITIS AND RHEUMATISM
fascicolo: 1, volume: 31, anno: 2001, pagine: 52 - 57 SICI:
0049-0172(200108)31:1<52:EBVISL>2.0.ZU;2-L Fonte: ISI Lingua:
ENG Soggetto: EMISSION COMPUTED-TOMOGRAPHY; DISEASE
RISK-FACTORS; CARDIOVASCULAR MANIFESTATIONS; ARTERY;
LIPOPROTEIN; ANTIBODIES; COHORT; INDEX; MEN; Keywords:
systemic lupus erythematosus; blood viscosity; rheology;
cardiovascular risk; Tipo documento: Review Natura: Periodico
Settore Disciplinare: Clinical Medicine Citazioni: 34
Recensione: Indirizzi per estratti: Indirizzo: Rosenson, RS
Northwestern Univ, Sch Med, Prevent Cardiol Ctr, 250 E Super
St,Wesley 728, Chicago, IL 60611 USA Northwestern Univ 250 E
Super St,Wesley 728 Chicago IL USA 60611
--------------------------------------------------------------
--------------=
-----
Abstract
Objectives:
It has been proposed that elevated blood viscosity contributes
to atherothrombotic and thromboembolic processes.
We evaluated whether there is increased blood
viscosity in systemic lupus erythematosus (SLE) that might
contribute to cardiovascular complications and reduced tissue
perfusion.
Methods:
Blood viscosity profiles were evaluated inSLE patients to determine
whether rheologic disturbancescontribute to the cardiovascular risk
profile.
Blood viscosity profiles were evaluated in 27 patients with SLE and 46
age-
and gender-matched controls.
Blood viscosity was measured at 37 degrees C and shear rates of 1
s(-1) and 100 s(-1), then corrected to the average hematocrit of the
SLE patients.
Results.
Corrected blood viscosity values were higher in SLE patients than in
controls at 100 s(-1) (P =3D .002).
Positive correlations were found between the Systemic Lupus
Damage Index for SLE, which quantifies damage to12 organ
systems and fibrinogen (rho =3D .39; P =3D .042) and
plasma viscosity (rho=3D .38, P =3D .049).
Conclusions:
Our data indicate that = blood viscosityvalues at a standard
hematocrit are elevated in SLE patients.
Further investigations are needed to evaluate whether the
increased blood viscosity values in SLE patients contribute to
cardiovascular complications and tissue ischemia.
Clinical
Relevance: Because blood viscosity values correlate with the
clinical severity of SLE, blood viscosity may contribute to
the cardiovascular complications and reduced tissue perfusion
in SLE patients.
Copyright (C) 2001 by W.B. Saunders Company.
-----------------------------
CIB Centro Inter-Bibliotecario, Universit=E0 di Bologna,
Catalogo delle riviste ed altri periodici Documento generato
il 26/03/07 alle ore 15:23:15
International Collaborating Clinics/American College of
Rheumatology
---------------------------------
This is mere .. coincidence of course .. phlebotomy /
venesection / bloodletting .. leads to **resolution** of ..
erythematous lesions on the center of the face.
Phlebotomy / venesection / bloodletting .. is the PREFERRED ..
first treatment .. OF .. erythrocytosis ..
Coincidence .. of .. course ..
Rosacea associated with polycythemia vera: Skin lesions
improved with phlebotomy
ADSuhr,Ki-Beom; Yoon, Ji-Seong; Lee, Jeung-Hoon; Park, Jang-Kyu 1994
Annals of Dermatology 6(1): 98-101
We report a case of rosacea in a 65 year old female with a 14
year history of polycythemia vera.
The patient suffered fromseveral constitutional symptoms and
signs suggestive ofpolycythemia vera.
Six years prior to our initial examination,erythematous lesions
were first noted on the center of the
face.
These lesions exhibited periodic improvement and
exacerbation without specific treatment.
Histopathologicexamination of the facial lesions showed
nodular infiltrationof lymphocytes and histiocytes and dilation
of blood vessels.
On the basis of laboratory examination, the patient was
diagnosed as polycythemia vera.
The patient has receivedmetronidazole, tetracycline, and topical
steroids to controlrosacea- like facial lesions.
The treatment results were notsignificant.
However, phlebotomy markedly improved the skin
lesion.
To our knowledge, there are no reports describing the
clinical course of rosacea lesions following the treatment
with phlebotomy.
--------------------
Who loves ya.
Tom
Jesus Was A Vegetarian!
http :// jesuswasavegetarian.7h,com
Man Is A Herbivore!
http :// tinyurl,com /a3cc3
DEAD PEOPLE WALKING
http :// tinyurl,com /zk9fk
Re: Flying and Dying
So should we be practicing bloodletting before long haul flights? The
physicians are recommending taking aspirin before. You may say
aspirin binds iron but its more important function is COX inhibition.
It's all about arachidonic acid overload.
Taka
So should we be practicing bloodletting before long haul flights? The
physicians are recommending taking aspirin before. You may say
aspirin binds iron but its more important function is COX inhibition.
It's all about arachidonic acid overload.
Taka
Re: Flying and Dying
On May 28, 5:56 pm, Taka <taka0...@gmail,com > wrote:It's all about
arachidonic acid overload <<
Sooo .. as opposed to the information I've provided as to the
**proximate** cause OF the thrombosis .. you .. 'say' .. it's all
about arachidonic acid .. ?
Need a cite or two for that I think.
Arachidonic acid causes hyperviscosity .. ??
Show JUST that one .. just one cite which shows arachidonic acid
causes .. hyperviscosity ..
Warfarin against .. arachidonic acid / hyperviscosity ..
Who loves ya.
Tom
Jesus Was A Vegetarian!
http :// jesuswasavegetarian.7h,com
Man Is A Herbivore!
http :// tinyurl,com /a3cc3
DEAD PEOPLE WALKING
http :// tinyurl,com /zk9fk
> So should we be practicing bloodletting before long haul flights? The
> physicians are recommending taking aspirin before. You may say
> aspirin binds iron but its more important function is COX inhibition.
> It's all about arachidonic acid overload.
>
> Taka
On May 28, 5:56 pm, Taka <taka0...@gmail,com > wrote:It's all about
arachidonic acid overload <<
Sooo .. as opposed to the information I've provided as to the
**proximate** cause OF the thrombosis .. you .. 'say' .. it's all
about arachidonic acid .. ?
Need a cite or two for that I think.
Arachidonic acid causes hyperviscosity .. ??
Show JUST that one .. just one cite which shows arachidonic acid
causes .. hyperviscosity ..
Warfarin against .. arachidonic acid / hyperviscosity ..
Who loves ya.
Tom
Jesus Was A Vegetarian!
http :// jesuswasavegetarian.7h,com
Man Is A Herbivore!
http :// tinyurl,com /a3cc3
DEAD PEOPLE WALKING
http :// tinyurl,com /zk9fk
> So should we be practicing bloodletting before long haul flights? The
> physicians are recommending taking aspirin before. You may say
> aspirin binds iron but its more important function is COX inhibition.
> It's all about arachidonic acid overload.
>
> Taka
Re: Flying and Dying
"ironjustice" <teamtanner@hotmail,com > wrote in message
news:94c42fb6-dbe2-4425-b1c3-ca441305f0fe@k37g2000hsf.googlegroups,com ...
On May 28, 5:56 pm, Taka <taka0...@gmail,com > wrote:It's all about
arachidonic acid overload <<
Sooo .. as opposed to the information I've provided as to the
**proximate** cause OF the thrombosis .. you .. 'say' .. it's all
about arachidonic acid .. ?
Need a cite or two for that I think.
Arachidonic acid causes hyperviscosity .. ??
Show JUST that one .. just one cite which shows arachidonic acid
causes .. hyperviscosity ..
Warfarin against .. arachidonic acid / hyperviscosity ..
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
(Sorry, I *know* I shouldn't feed the troll)
Tommy - you demonstrate your ignorance yet again.
I shall add arachidonic acid to the list which includes (among other gems):
"disease which closely resembles lupus. IE: thalassemia and sickle /
aplastic anemia"
sequestration of minerals
the anti-gravity effects of iron reduction on red cells.
Why on earth do you post this stuff?
Again your theories seem perfectly plausible to anyone who knows absolutely
nothing about the subject.
(This is your cue to swear without the vowels and call me childish names)
"ironjustice" <teamtanner@hotmail,com > wrote in message
news:94c42fb6-dbe2-4425-b1c3-ca441305f0fe@k37g2000hsf.googlegroups,com ...
On May 28, 5:56 pm, Taka <taka0...@gmail,com > wrote:It's all about
arachidonic acid overload <<
Sooo .. as opposed to the information I've provided as to the
**proximate** cause OF the thrombosis .. you .. 'say' .. it's all
about arachidonic acid .. ?
Need a cite or two for that I think.
Arachidonic acid causes hyperviscosity .. ??
Show JUST that one .. just one cite which shows arachidonic acid
causes .. hyperviscosity ..
Warfarin against .. arachidonic acid / hyperviscosity ..
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
(Sorry, I *know* I shouldn't feed the troll)
Tommy - you demonstrate your ignorance yet again.
I shall add arachidonic acid to the list which includes (among other gems):
"disease which closely resembles lupus. IE: thalassemia and sickle /
aplastic anemia"
sequestration of minerals
the anti-gravity effects of iron reduction on red cells.
Why on earth do you post this stuff?
Again your theories seem perfectly plausible to anyone who knows absolutely
nothing about the subject.
(This is your cue to swear without the vowels and call me childish names)
Re: Flying and Dying
On May 29, 10:08 am, "Manky Badger" <you.m...@be.joking> wrote: the
anti-gravity effects of iron reduction on red cells. <<
You are on this thread for a reason .. ?
You are AGAIN .. doctoring .. information ..
Eh ..
Is that the extent of your .. abilities .. ?
Doctoring medical studies .. doctoring posts .. and .. attempting to
belittle .. ?
Is it .. "I am a scientist with credentials" ..
Ehhh ..
Dweeb ..
Always will be a dweeb ..
Now unless you have something to say about .. aplastic anemia and the
risk of dying while flying .. maybe you should crawl back under
whatever shtpiles guys like you crawl out .. from .. under ..
Who loves ya.
Tom
Jesus Was A Vegetarian!
http :// jesuswasavegetarian.7h,com
Man Is A Herbivore!
http :// tinyurl,com /a3cc3
DEAD PEOPLE WALKING
http :// tinyurl,com /zk9fk
> "ironjustice" <teamtan...@hotmail,com > wrote in message
>
> news:94c42fb6-dbe2-4425-b1c3-ca441305f0fe@k37g2000hsf.googlegroups,com ...
> On May 28, 5:56 pm, Taka <taka0...@gmail,com > wrote:It's all aboutarachidonicacid overload <<
>
> Sooo .. as opposed to the information I've provided as to the
> **proximate** cause OF the thrombosis .. you .. 'say' .. it's all
> aboutarachidonicacid .. ?
>
> Need a cite or two for that I think.
>
> Arachidonicacid causes hyperviscosity .. ??
>
> Show JUST that one .. just one cite which showsarachidonicacid
> causes .. hyperviscosity ..
>
> Warfarin against ..arachidonicacid / hyperviscosity ..
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> (Sorry, I *know* I shouldn't feed the troll)
>
> Tommy - you demonstrate your ignorance yet again.
> I shall addarachidonicacid to the list which includes (among other gems):
>
> "disease which closely resembles lupus. IE: thalassemia and sickle /
> aplastic anemia"
> sequestration of minerals
> the anti-gravity effects ofironreduction on red cells.
>
> Why on earth do you post this stuff?
> Again your theories seem perfectly plausible to anyone who knows absolutely
> nothing about the subject.
> (This is your cue to swear without the vowels and call me childish names)
On May 29, 10:08 am, "Manky Badger" <you.m...@be.joking> wrote: the
anti-gravity effects of iron reduction on red cells. <<
You are on this thread for a reason .. ?
You are AGAIN .. doctoring .. information ..
Eh ..
Is that the extent of your .. abilities .. ?
Doctoring medical studies .. doctoring posts .. and .. attempting to
belittle .. ?
Is it .. "I am a scientist with credentials" ..
Ehhh ..
Dweeb ..
Always will be a dweeb ..
Now unless you have something to say about .. aplastic anemia and the
risk of dying while flying .. maybe you should crawl back under
whatever shtpiles guys like you crawl out .. from .. under ..
Who loves ya.
Tom
Jesus Was A Vegetarian!
http :// jesuswasavegetarian.7h,com
Man Is A Herbivore!
http :// tinyurl,com /a3cc3
DEAD PEOPLE WALKING
http :// tinyurl,com /zk9fk
> "ironjustice" <teamtan...@hotmail,com > wrote in message
>
> news:94c42fb6-dbe2-4425-b1c3-ca441305f0fe@k37g2000hsf.googlegroups,com ...
> On May 28, 5:56 pm, Taka <taka0...@gmail,com > wrote:It's all aboutarachidonicacid overload <<
>
> Sooo .. as opposed to the information I've provided as to the
> **proximate** cause OF the thrombosis .. you .. 'say' .. it's all
> aboutarachidonicacid .. ?
>
> Need a cite or two for that I think.
>
> Arachidonicacid causes hyperviscosity .. ??
>
> Show JUST that one .. just one cite which showsarachidonicacid
> causes .. hyperviscosity ..
>
> Warfarin against ..arachidonicacid / hyperviscosity ..
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> (Sorry, I *know* I shouldn't feed the troll)
>
> Tommy - you demonstrate your ignorance yet again.
> I shall addarachidonicacid to the list which includes (among other gems):
>
> "disease which closely resembles lupus. IE: thalassemia and sickle /
> aplastic anemia"
> sequestration of minerals
> the anti-gravity effects ofironreduction on red cells.
>
> Why on earth do you post this stuff?
> Again your theories seem perfectly plausible to anyone who knows absolutely
> nothing about the subject.
> (This is your cue to swear without the vowels and call me childish names)
Re: Flying and Dying
"ironjustice" <teamtanner@hotmail,com > wrote in message
news:3f706274-d2b6-498c-ac3b-0abfbb1c8698@25g2000hsx.googlegroups,com ...
On May 29, 10:08 am, "Manky Badger" <you.m...@be.joking> wrote: the
anti-gravity effects of iron reduction on red cells. <<
You are on this thread for a reason .. ?
You are AGAIN .. doctoring .. information ..
_______________________________________________
When have I *ever* doctored information?
(Double dweeb with knobs on - no returns!!!)
"ironjustice" <teamtanner@hotmail,com > wrote in message
news:3f706274-d2b6-498c-ac3b-0abfbb1c8698@25g2000hsx.googlegroups,com ...
On May 29, 10:08 am, "Manky Badger" <you.m...@be.joking> wrote: the
anti-gravity effects of iron reduction on red cells. <<
You are on this thread for a reason .. ?
You are AGAIN .. doctoring .. information ..
_______________________________________________
When have I *ever* doctored information?
(Double dweeb with knobs on - no returns!!!)
Re: Flying and Dying
On May 29, 7:56 am, ironjustice <teamtan...@hotmail,com > wrote:
hyperviscosity <<
My free bisphosphonate works well the iron chelator I wonder why.
http :// www .vrp,com /articles.aspx?ProdID=art1170&zTYPE=2
"An overlooked anti-coagulant is Inositol Hexaphosphate (IP6). In one
study, IP6 inhibited platelet aggregation by 45 percent in an in vivo
animal model. In an in vitro study by the same researchers, stickiness
was induced in human whole blood taken from healthy volunteers. IP6
reduced clotting by 50 percent, or eliminated it altogether."
Who loves ya.
Tom
Jesus Was A Vegetarian!
http :// jesuswasavegetarian.7h,com
Man Is A Herbivore!
http :// tinyurl,com /a3cc3
DEAD PEOPLE WALKING
http :// tinyurl,com /zk9fk
> On May 28, 5:56 pm, Taka <taka0...@gmail,com > wrote:It's all about
> arachidonic acid overload <<
>
> Sooo .. as opposed to the information I've provided as to the
> **proximate** cause OF the thrombosis .. you .. 'say' .. it's all
> about arachidonic acid .. ?
>
> Need a cite or two for that I think.
>
> Arachidonic acid causes hyperviscosity .. ??
>
> Show JUST that one .. just one cite which shows arachidonic acid
> causes .. hyperviscosity ..
>
> Warfarin against .. arachidonic acid / hyperviscosity ..
>
> Who loves ya.
> Tom
>
> Jesus Was A Vegetarian! http :// jesuswasavegetarian.7h,com
>
> Man Is A Herbivore! http :// tinyurl,com /a3cc3
>
> DEAD PEOPLE WALKING
> http :// tinyurl,com /zk9fk
>
>
>
> > So should we be practicing bloodletting before long haul flights? The
> > physicians are recommending taking aspirin before. You may say
> > aspirin binds iron but its more important function is COX inhibition.
> > It's all about arachidonic acid overload.
>
> > Taka- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
On May 29, 7:56 am, ironjustice <teamtan...@hotmail,com > wrote:
hyperviscosity <<
My free bisphosphonate works well the iron chelator I wonder why.
http :// www .vrp,com /articles.aspx?ProdID=art1170&zTYPE=2
"An overlooked anti-coagulant is Inositol Hexaphosphate (IP6). In one
study, IP6 inhibited platelet aggregation by 45 percent in an in vivo
animal model. In an in vitro study by the same researchers, stickiness
was induced in human whole blood taken from healthy volunteers. IP6
reduced clotting by 50 percent, or eliminated it altogether."
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> On May 28, 5:56 pm, Taka <taka0...@gmail,com > wrote:It's all about
> arachidonic acid overload <<
>
> Sooo .. as opposed to the information I've provided as to the
> **proximate** cause OF the thrombosis .. you .. 'say' .. it's all
> about arachidonic acid .. ?
>
> Need a cite or two for that I think.
>
> Arachidonic acid causes hyperviscosity .. ??
>
> Show JUST that one .. just one cite which shows arachidonic acid
> causes .. hyperviscosity ..
>
> Warfarin against .. arachidonic acid / hyperviscosity ..
>
> Who loves ya.
> Tom
>
> Jesus Was A Vegetarian! http :// jesuswasavegetarian.7h,com
>
> Man Is A Herbivore! http :// tinyurl,com /a3cc3
>
> DEAD PEOPLE WALKING
> http :// tinyurl,com /zk9fk
>
>
>
> > So should we be practicing bloodletting before long haul flights? The
> > physicians are recommending taking aspirin before. You may say
> > aspirin binds iron but its more important function is COX inhibition.
> > It's all about arachidonic acid overload.
>
> > Taka- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
Re: Flying and Dying
On May 29, 11:56 pm, ironjustice <teamtan...@hotmail,com > wrote:
> On May 28, 5:56 pm, Taka <taka0...@gmail,com > wrote:It's all about
> arachidonic acid overload <<
>
> Sooo .. as opposed to the information I've provided as to the
> **proximate** cause OF the thrombosis .. you .. 'say' .. it's all
> about arachidonic acid .. ?
>
> Need a cite or two for that I think.
http :// www .prostaglandinresearch,com /showcitationlist.php?mth=Thromboembolism
> Arachidonic acid causes hyperviscosity .. ??
>
> Show JUST that one .. just one cite which shows arachidonic acid
> causes .. hyperviscosity ..
>
> Warfarin against .. arachidonic acid / hyperviscosity ..
>
> Who loves ya.
> Tom
>
> Jesus Was A Vegetarian! http :// jesuswasavegetarian.7h,com
>
> Man Is A Herbivore! http :// tinyurl,com /a3cc3
>
> DEAD PEOPLE WALKING
> http :// tinyurl,com /zk9fk
>
> > So should we be practicing bloodletting before long haul flights? The
> > physicians are recommending taking aspirin before. You may say
> > aspirin binds iron but its more important function is COX inhibition.
> > It's all about arachidonic acid overload.
>
> > Taka
On May 29, 11:56 pm, ironjustice <teamtan...@hotmail,com > wrote:
> On May 28, 5:56 pm, Taka <taka0...@gmail,com > wrote:It's all about
> arachidonic acid overload <<
>
> Sooo .. as opposed to the information I've provided as to the
> **proximate** cause OF the thrombosis .. you .. 'say' .. it's all
> about arachidonic acid .. ?
>
> Need a cite or two for that I think.
http :// www .prostaglandinresearch,com /showcitationlist.php?mth=Thromboembolism
> Arachidonic acid causes hyperviscosity .. ??
>
> Show JUST that one .. just one cite which shows arachidonic acid
> causes .. hyperviscosity ..
>
> Warfarin against .. arachidonic acid / hyperviscosity ..
>
> Who loves ya.
> Tom
>
> Jesus Was A Vegetarian! http :// jesuswasavegetarian.7h,com
>
> Man Is A Herbivore! http :// tinyurl,com /a3cc3
>
> DEAD PEOPLE WALKING
> http :// tinyurl,com /zk9fk
>
> > So should we be practicing bloodletting before long haul flights? The
> > physicians are recommending taking aspirin before. You may say
> > aspirin binds iron but its more important function is COX inhibition.
> > It's all about arachidonic acid overload.
>
> > Taka
Re: Flying and Dying
On May 29, 7:33 pm, Taka <taka0...@gmail,com > wrote:it's all
about arachidonic acid <<
Ok .. I gave a pretty good rendition of WHY a person with lupus ..
seems .. to be erythrocytotic .. AND .. when they FLY .. they ..
die ..
Now .. when one flys .. erythrocytosis KILLS you / thrombosis ..
NOW .. explain in a few words how YOU .. think .. lupus / arachidonic
acid .. makes one APPEAR to be erythrocytotic .. too many red blood
cells AND gives them the propensity to die WHEN they fly.
We were given three different symptoms which might make one die in
flight .. and all of them seem to be lupus .. related.
You are saying .. it is NOT erythrocytosis which kills these thick
blooded people .. it is the .. arachidonic acid ..
Now why would arachidonic acid .. and flying .. kill people with
lupus .. ?
Who loves ya.
Tom
Jesus Was A Vegetarian!
http :// jesuswasavegetarian.7h,com
Man Is A Herbivore!
http :// tinyurl,com /a3cc3
DEAD PEOPLE WALKING
http :// tinyurl,com /zk9fk
> On May 29, 11:56 pm, ironjustice <teamtan...@hotmail,com > wrote:
>
> > On May 28, 5:56 pm, Taka <taka0...@gmail,com > wrote:It's all about
> > arachidonic acid overload <<
>
> > Sooo .. as opposed to the information I've provided as to the
> > **proximate** cause OF the thrombosis .. you .. 'say' .. it's all
> > about arachidonic acid .. ?
>
> > Need a cite or two for that I think.
>
> http :// www .prostaglandinresearch,com /showcitationlist.php?mth=Thrombo...
>
>
>
> > Arachidonic acid causes hyperviscosity .. ??
>
> > Show JUST that one .. just one cite which shows arachidonic acid
> > causes .. hyperviscosity ..
>
> > Warfarin against .. arachidonic acid / hyperviscosity ..
>
> > Who loves ya.
> > Tom
>
> > Jesus Was A Vegetarian! http :// jesuswasavegetarian.7h,com
>
> > Man Is A Herbivore! http :// tinyurl,com /a3cc3
>
> > DEAD PEOPLE WALKING
> > http :// tinyurl,com /zk9fk
>
> > > So should we be practicing bloodletting before long haul flights? The
> > > physicians are recommending taking aspirin before. You may say
> > > aspirin binds iron but its more important function is COX inhibition.
> > > It's all about arachidonic acid overload.
>
> > > Taka- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
On May 29, 7:33 pm, Taka <taka0...@gmail,com > wrote:it's all
about arachidonic acid <<
Ok .. I gave a pretty good rendition of WHY a person with lupus ..
seems .. to be erythrocytotic .. AND .. when they FLY .. they ..
die ..
Now .. when one flys .. erythrocytosis KILLS you / thrombosis ..
NOW .. explain in a few words how YOU .. think .. lupus / arachidonic
acid .. makes one APPEAR to be erythrocytotic .. too many red blood
cells AND gives them the propensity to die WHEN they fly.
We were given three different symptoms which might make one die in
flight .. and all of them seem to be lupus .. related.
You are saying .. it is NOT erythrocytosis which kills these thick
blooded people .. it is the .. arachidonic acid ..
Now why would arachidonic acid .. and flying .. kill people with
lupus .. ?
Who loves ya.
Tom
Jesus Was A Vegetarian!
http :// jesuswasavegetarian.7h,com
Man Is A Herbivore!
http :// tinyurl,com /a3cc3
DEAD PEOPLE WALKING
http :// tinyurl,com /zk9fk
> On May 29, 11:56 pm, ironjustice <teamtan...@hotmail,com > wrote:
>
> > On May 28, 5:56 pm, Taka <taka0...@gmail,com > wrote:It's all about
> > arachidonic acid overload <<
>
> > Sooo .. as opposed to the information I've provided as to the
> > **proximate** cause OF the thrombosis .. you .. 'say' .. it's all
> > about arachidonic acid .. ?
>
> > Need a cite or two for that I think.
>
> http :// www .prostaglandinresearch,com /showcitationlist.php?mth=Thrombo...
>
>
>
> > Arachidonic acid causes hyperviscosity .. ??
>
> > Show JUST that one .. just one cite which shows arachidonic acid
> > causes .. hyperviscosity ..
>
> > Warfarin against .. arachidonic acid / hyperviscosity ..
>
> > Who loves ya.
> > Tom
>
> > Jesus Was A Vegetarian! http :// jesuswasavegetarian.7h,com
>
> > Man Is A Herbivore! http :// tinyurl,com /a3cc3
>
> > DEAD PEOPLE WALKING
> > http :// tinyurl,com /zk9fk
>
> > > So should we be practicing bloodletting before long haul flights? The
> > > physicians are recommending taking aspirin before. You may say
> > > aspirin binds iron but its more important function is COX inhibition.
> > > It's all about arachidonic acid overload.
>
> > > Taka- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
Re: Flying and Dying
On May 30, 5:47 am, ironjustice <teamtan...@hotmail,com >
wrote:Arachidonic Acid <<
Arachidonic acid is part and parcel of our immune system.
Much like iron it has its .. place.
Moderation ..
But .. when there is TOO much .. **iron** ..
"Increased Release of Arachidonic Acid"
ANY abnormal increase of arachidonic acid can be explained with the
iron overload / aplastic anemia / erythrocytosis / .. hypothesis.
(Circulation. 2001;103:2395.)
© 2001 American Heart Association, Inc.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Basic Science Reports
Increased Release of Arachidonic Acid and Eicosanoids in Iron-
Overloaded Cardiomyocytes
Rafael Mattera, PhD; Gregory P. Stone, BA; Nael Bahhur, BA; Yuri A.
Kuryshev, PhD
From Rammelkamp Center for Education and Research, MetroHealth Medical
Center (R.M., G.P.S., N.B., Y.A.K.) and Department of Medicine (R.M.),
Case Western Reserve University School of Medicine, Cleveland, Ohio.
Correspondence to Rafael Mattera, PhD, Cell Biology and Metabolism
Branch, NICHD, Building 18T, Room 101, Bethesda, MD 20892. E-mail
matterar@helix.nih.gov
Background—Patients with transfusional iron overload may develop a
life-limiting cardiomyopathy. The sensitivity of lipid-metabolizing
enzymes to peroxidative injury, as well as the reported effects of
arachidonic acid (AA) and metabolites on cardiac rhythm, led us to
hypothesize that iron-overloaded cardiomyocytes display alterations in
the release of AA and prostaglandins.
Methods and Results—Neonatal rat ventricular myocytes (NRVMs) cultured
for 72 hours in the presence of 80 µg/mL ferric ammonium citrate
displayed an increased rate of AA release, both under resting
conditions and after stimulation with agonists such as [Sar1]Ang II.
Although iron treatment did not affect overall incorporation of [3H]AA
into NRVM phospholipids, it caused a 2-fold increase in the
distribution of precursor in phosphatidylcholine species, with a
proportional decrease in phosphatidylinositol, phosphatidylserine, and
phosphatidylethanolamine. Increased release of AA in iron-overloaded
NRVMs was reduced by the diacylglycerol lipase inhibitor RHC80267 but
was largely insensitive to inhibitors of phospholipases A2 and C. Iron-
overloaded cardiomyocytes also displayed increased production of
eicosanoids and induction of cyclooxygenase-2 after stimulation with
interleukin-1.
Conclusions—Iron overload enhances AA release and incorporation of AA
into phosphatidylcholine, as well as cyclooxygenase-2 induction and
eicosanoid production, in NRVMs. The effects of AA and metabolites on
cardiomyocyte rhythmicity suggest a causal connection between these
signals and electromechanical alterations in iron-overload–induced
cardiomyopathy.
Key Words: cardiomyopathy • prostaglandins • signal transduction •
myocytes • iron
Who loves ya.
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> On May 29, 7:33 pm, Taka <taka0...@gmail,com > wrote:it's all
> about arachidonic acid <<
>
> Ok .. I gave a pretty good rendition of WHY a person with lupus ..
> seems .. to be erythrocytotic .. AND .. when they FLY .. they ..
> die ..
>
> Now .. when one flys .. erythrocytosis KILLS you / thrombosis ..
>
> NOW .. explain in a few words how YOU .. think .. lupus / arachidonic
> acid .. makes one APPEAR to be erythrocytotic .. too many red blood
> cells AND gives them the propensity to die WHEN they fly.
>
> We were given three different symptoms which might make one die in
> flight .. and all of them seem to be lupus .. related.
>
> You are saying .. it is NOT erythrocytosis which kills these thick
> blooded people .. it is the .. arachidonic acid ..
>
> Now why would arachidonic acid .. and flying .. kill people with
> lupus .. ?
>
> Who loves ya.
> Tom
>
> Jesus Was A Vegetarian! http :// jesuswasavegetarian.7h,com
>
> Man Is A Herbivore! http :// tinyurl,com /a3cc3
>
> DEAD PEOPLE WALKING
> http :// tinyurl,com /zk9fk
>
>
>
> > On May 29, 11:56 pm, ironjustice <teamtan...@hotmail,com > wrote:
>
> > > On May 28, 5:56 pm, Taka <taka0...@gmail,com > wrote:It's all about
> > > arachidonic acid overload <<
>
> > > Sooo .. as opposed to the information I've provided as to the
> > > **proximate** cause OF the thrombosis .. you .. 'say' .. it's all
> > > about arachidonic acid .. ?
>
> > > Need a cite or two for that I think.
>
> > http :// www .prostaglandinresearch,com /showcitationlist.php?mth=Thrombo...
>
> > > Arachidonic acid causes hyperviscosity .. ??
>
> > > Show JUST that one .. just one cite which shows arachidonic acid
> > > causes .. hyperviscosity ..
>
> > > Warfarin against .. arachidonic acid / hyperviscosity ..
>
> > > Who loves ya.
> > > Tom
>
> > > Jesus Was A Vegetarian! http :// jesuswasavegetarian.7h,com
>
> > > Man Is A Herbivore! http :// tinyurl,com /a3cc3
>
> > > DEAD PEOPLE WALKING
> > > http :// tinyurl,com /zk9fk
>
> > > > So should we be practicing bloodletting before long haul flights? The
> > > > physicians are recommending taking aspirin before. You may say
> > > > aspirin binds iron but its more important function is COX inhibition.
> > > > It's all about arachidonic acid overload.
>
> > > > Taka- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
On May 30, 5:47 am, ironjustice <teamtan...@hotmail,com >
wrote:Arachidonic Acid <<
Arachidonic acid is part and parcel of our immune system.
Much like iron it has its .. place.
Moderation ..
But .. when there is TOO much .. **iron** ..
"Increased Release of Arachidonic Acid"
ANY abnormal increase of arachidonic acid can be explained with the
iron overload / aplastic anemia / erythrocytosis / .. hypothesis.
(Circulation. 2001;103:2395.)
© 2001 American Heart Association, Inc.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Basic Science Reports
Increased Release of Arachidonic Acid and Eicosanoids in Iron-
Overloaded Cardiomyocytes
Rafael Mattera, PhD; Gregory P. Stone, BA; Nael Bahhur, BA; Yuri A.
Kuryshev, PhD
From Rammelkamp Center for Education and Research, MetroHealth Medical
Center (R.M., G.P.S., N.B., Y.A.K.) and Department of Medicine (R.M.),
Case Western Reserve University School of Medicine, Cleveland, Ohio.
Correspondence to Rafael Mattera, PhD, Cell Biology and Metabolism
Branch, NICHD, Building 18T, Room 101, Bethesda, MD 20892. E-mail
matterar@helix.nih.gov
Background—Patients with transfusional iron overload may develop a
life-limiting cardiomyopathy. The sensitivity of lipid-metabolizing
enzymes to peroxidative injury, as well as the reported effects of
arachidonic acid (AA) and metabolites on cardiac rhythm, led us to
hypothesize that iron-overloaded cardiomyocytes display alterations in
the release of AA and prostaglandins.
Methods and Results—Neonatal rat ventricular myocytes (NRVMs) cultured
for 72 hours in the presence of 80 µg/mL ferric ammonium citrate
displayed an increased rate of AA release, both under resting
conditions and after stimulation with agonists such as [Sar1]Ang II.
Although iron treatment did not affect overall incorporation of [3H]AA
into NRVM phospholipids, it caused a 2-fold increase in the
distribution of precursor in phosphatidylcholine species, with a
proportional decrease in phosphatidylinositol, phosphatidylserine, and
phosphatidylethanolamine. Increased release of AA in iron-overloaded
NRVMs was reduced by the diacylglycerol lipase inhibitor RHC80267 but
was largely insensitive to inhibitors of phospholipases A2 and C. Iron-
overloaded cardiomyocytes also displayed increased production of
eicosanoids and induction of cyclooxygenase-2 after stimulation with
interleukin-1.
Conclusions—Iron overload enhances AA release and incorporation of AA
into phosphatidylcholine, as well as cyclooxygenase-2 induction and
eicosanoid production, in NRVMs. The effects of AA and metabolites on
cardiomyocyte rhythmicity suggest a causal connection between these
signals and electromechanical alterations in iron-overload–induced
cardiomyopathy.
Key Words: cardiomyopathy • prostaglandins • signal transduction •
myocytes • iron
Who loves ya.
Tom
Jesus Was A Vegetarian!
http :// jesuswasavegetarian.7h,com
Man Is A Herbivore!
http :// tinyurl,com /a3cc3
DEAD PEOPLE WALKING
http :// tinyurl,com /zk9fk
> On May 29, 7:33 pm, Taka <taka0...@gmail,com > wrote:it's all
> about arachidonic acid <<
>
> Ok .. I gave a pretty good rendition of WHY a person with lupus ..
> seems .. to be erythrocytotic .. AND .. when they FLY .. they ..
> die ..
>
> Now .. when one flys .. erythrocytosis KILLS you / thrombosis ..
>
> NOW .. explain in a few words how YOU .. think .. lupus / arachidonic
> acid .. makes one APPEAR to be erythrocytotic .. too many red blood
> cells AND gives them the propensity to die WHEN they fly.
>
> We were given three different symptoms which might make one die in
> flight .. and all of them seem to be lupus .. related.
>
> You are saying .. it is NOT erythrocytosis which kills these thick
> blooded people .. it is the .. arachidonic acid ..
>
> Now why would arachidonic acid .. and flying .. kill people with
> lupus .. ?
>
> Who loves ya.
> Tom
>
> Jesus Was A Vegetarian! http :// jesuswasavegetarian.7h,com
>
> Man Is A Herbivore! http :// tinyurl,com /a3cc3
>
> DEAD PEOPLE WALKING
> http :// tinyurl,com /zk9fk
>
>
>
> > On May 29, 11:56 pm, ironjustice <teamtan...@hotmail,com > wrote:
>
> > > On May 28, 5:56 pm, Taka <taka0...@gmail,com > wrote:It's all about
> > > arachidonic acid overload <<
>
> > > Sooo .. as opposed to the information I've provided as to the
> > > **proximate** cause OF the thrombosis .. you .. 'say' .. it's all
> > > about arachidonic acid .. ?
>
> > > Need a cite or two for that I think.
>
> > http :// www .prostaglandinresearch,com /showcitationlist.php?mth=Thrombo...
>
> > > Arachidonic acid causes hyperviscosity .. ??
>
> > > Show JUST that one .. just one cite which shows arachidonic acid
> > > causes .. hyperviscosity ..
>
> > > Warfarin against .. arachidonic acid / hyperviscosity ..
>
> > > Who loves ya.
> > > Tom
>
> > > Jesus Was A Vegetarian! http :// jesuswasavegetarian.7h,com
>
> > > Man Is A Herbivore! http :// tinyurl,com /a3cc3
>
> > > DEAD PEOPLE WALKING
> > > http :// tinyurl,com /zk9fk
>
> > > > So should we be practicing bloodletting before long haul flights? The
> > > > physicians are recommending taking aspirin before. You may say
> > > > aspirin binds iron but its more important function is COX inhibition.
> > > > It's all about arachidonic acid overload.
>
> > > > Taka- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
