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GOT A SCIENTIFIC QUESTION ABOUT THE LYME CRIMES?
Re: GOT A SCIENTIFIC QUESTION ABOUT THE LYME CRIMES?
On May 15, 10:41 am, Mort Zuckerman <morph...@yahoo,com > wrote:
> http :// www .actionlyme.org
No.
In case you missed it, Attorney General Blumenthal ("super
Blumenthal", to you) and his staff ATTORNEYS have recently completed
what I'm SURE was an exhaustive investigation of the IDSA Guidelines
process.
If anything appeared in the course of that investigation that would
have indicated that there was probable cause to think a crime might
have been committed, they would have been duty-bound to pursue that.
Didn't happen. YOU have been proven WRONG.
Time for you now to move on and try to get a life.
You're only hurting yourself and others dumb enough to listen to you.
On May 15, 10:41 am, Mort Zuckerman <morph...@yahoo,com > wrote:
> http :// www .actionlyme.org
No.
In case you missed it, Attorney General Blumenthal ("super
Blumenthal", to you) and his staff ATTORNEYS have recently completed
what I'm SURE was an exhaustive investigation of the IDSA Guidelines
process.
If anything appeared in the course of that investigation that would
have indicated that there was probable cause to think a crime might
have been committed, they would have been duty-bound to pursue that.
Didn't happen. YOU have been proven WRONG.
Time for you now to move on and try to get a life.
You're only hurting yourself and others dumb enough to listen to you.
Re: GOT A SCIENTIFIC QUESTION ABOUT THE LYME CRIMES?
On May 15, 2:52 pm, the 3rd Man <sir de...@yahoo,com > wrote:
> On May 15, 10:41 am, Mort Zuckerman <morph...@yahoo,com > wrote:
>
> > http :// www .actionlyme.org
>
> No.
>
> In case you missed it, Attorney General Blumenthal ("super
> Blumenthal", to you) and his staff ATTORNEYS have recently completed
> what I'm SURE was an exhaustive investigation of the IDSA Guidelines
> process.
>
> If anything appeared in the course of that investigation that would
> have indicated that there was probable cause to think a crime might
> have been committed, they would have been duty-bound to pursue that.
>
> Didn't happen. YOU have been proven WRONG.
>
> Time for you now to move on and try to get a life.
>
> You're only hurting yourself and others dumb enough to listen to you.
Nope.
That is not what happened.
On May 15, 2:52 pm, the 3rd Man <sir de...@yahoo,com > wrote:
> On May 15, 10:41 am, Mort Zuckerman <morph...@yahoo,com > wrote:
>
> > http :// www .actionlyme.org
>
> No.
>
> In case you missed it, Attorney General Blumenthal ("super
> Blumenthal", to you) and his staff ATTORNEYS have recently completed
> what I'm SURE was an exhaustive investigation of the IDSA Guidelines
> process.
>
> If anything appeared in the course of that investigation that would
> have indicated that there was probable cause to think a crime might
> have been committed, they would have been duty-bound to pursue that.
>
> Didn't happen. YOU have been proven WRONG.
>
> Time for you now to move on and try to get a life.
>
> You're only hurting yourself and others dumb enough to listen to you.
Nope.
That is not what happened.
Re: GOT A SCIENTIFIC QUESTION ABOUT THE LYME CRIMES?
On May 15, 5:53 pm, Mort Zuckerman <morph...@yahoo,com > wrote:
>
> Nope.
>
> That is not what happened.-
Sorry.
Afraid so.
(And you should NOT be using Mr. Zuckerman's name).
On May 15, 5:53 pm, Mort Zuckerman <morph...@yahoo,com > wrote:
>
> Nope.
>
> That is not what happened.-
Sorry.
Afraid so.
(And you should NOT be using Mr. Zuckerman's name).
Re: GOT A SCIENTIFIC QUESTION ABOUT THE LYME CRIMES?
On May 15, 5:53 pm, Mort Zuckerman <morph...@yahoo,com > wrote:
> On May 15, 2:52 pm, the 3rd Man <sir de...@yahoo,com > wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On May 15, 10:41 am, Mort Zuckerman <morph...@yahoo,com > wrote:
>
> > > http :// www .actionlyme.org
>
> > No.
>
> > In case you missed it, Attorney General Blumenthal ("super
> > Blumenthal", to you) and his staff ATTORNEYS have recently completed
> > what I'm SURE was an exhaustive investigation of the IDSA Guidelines
> > process.
>
> > If anything appeared in the course of that investigation that would
> > have indicated that there was probable cause to think a crime might
> > have been committed, they would have been duty-bound to pursue that.
>
> > Didn't happen. YOU have been proven WRONG.
>
> > Time for you now to move on and try to get a life.
>
> > You're only hurting yourself and others dumb enough to listen to you.
>
> Nope.
>
> That is not what happened.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
LOL.
Look...they have even begun to figure it out over at LymeNUT.
Ms. Smith bet the farm for you and rolled snake eyes.
This was a fishing expedition...only problem is...no fish.
Now...the settlement precludes any further action in Connecticut based
upon any claimed deficiencies in the Guideline process.
But the reality...is that it probably puts an end to any possibility
of an open-ended investigation of Lyme research-related allegations,
period...given the outcome here.
On May 15, 5:53 pm, Mort Zuckerman <morph...@yahoo,com > wrote:
> On May 15, 2:52 pm, the 3rd Man <sir de...@yahoo,com > wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On May 15, 10:41 am, Mort Zuckerman <morph...@yahoo,com > wrote:
>
> > > http :// www .actionlyme.org
>
> > No.
>
> > In case you missed it, Attorney General Blumenthal ("super
> > Blumenthal", to you) and his staff ATTORNEYS have recently completed
> > what I'm SURE was an exhaustive investigation of the IDSA Guidelines
> > process.
>
> > If anything appeared in the course of that investigation that would
> > have indicated that there was probable cause to think a crime might
> > have been committed, they would have been duty-bound to pursue that.
>
> > Didn't happen. YOU have been proven WRONG.
>
> > Time for you now to move on and try to get a life.
>
> > You're only hurting yourself and others dumb enough to listen to you.
>
> Nope.
>
> That is not what happened.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
LOL.
Look...they have even begun to figure it out over at LymeNUT.
Ms. Smith bet the farm for you and rolled snake eyes.
This was a fishing expedition...only problem is...no fish.
Now...the settlement precludes any further action in Connecticut based
upon any claimed deficiencies in the Guideline process.
But the reality...is that it probably puts an end to any possibility
of an open-ended investigation of Lyme research-related allegations,
period...given the outcome here.
Re: GOT A SCIENTIFIC QUESTION ABOUT THE LYME CRIMES?
On May 15, 2:52=EF=BF=BDpm, the 3rd Man <sir_de...@yahoo,com > wrote:
> On May 15, 10:41=EF=BF=BDam, Mort Zuckerman <morph...@yahoo,com > wrote:
>
> > http :// www .actionlyme.org
>
> No.
>
> In case you missed it, Attorney General Blumenthal ("super
> Blumenthal", to you) and his staff ATTORNEYS have recently completed
> what I'm SURE was an exhaustive investigation of the IDSA Guidelines
> process.
>
> If anything appeared in the course of that investigation that would
> have indicated that there was probable cause to think a crime might
> have been committed, they would have been duty-bound to pursue that.
>
> Didn't happen. YOU have been proven WRONG.
>
> Time for you now to move on and try to get a life.
>
> You're only hurting yourself and others dumb enough to listen to you.
Just a dumb question:
Would Attorney General Blumenthal & his group be considered the
plaintiff and the IDSA the defense then each of the two sides findings
are presented or if you want to call it evidence in ref to
Blumenthal's side - now the question is : Is it the JUDGE who looks
everthing over and then the judge would be the one who makes the
final decision if quilty or not quilty in ref. to the IDSA having
financial interest involved in these quidelines------------------------
L
On May 15, 2:52=EF=BF=BDpm, the 3rd Man <sir_de...@yahoo,com > wrote:
> On May 15, 10:41=EF=BF=BDam, Mort Zuckerman <morph...@yahoo,com > wrote:
>
> > http :// www .actionlyme.org
>
> No.
>
> In case you missed it, Attorney General Blumenthal ("super
> Blumenthal", to you) and his staff ATTORNEYS have recently completed
> what I'm SURE was an exhaustive investigation of the IDSA Guidelines
> process.
>
> If anything appeared in the course of that investigation that would
> have indicated that there was probable cause to think a crime might
> have been committed, they would have been duty-bound to pursue that.
>
> Didn't happen. YOU have been proven WRONG.
>
> Time for you now to move on and try to get a life.
>
> You're only hurting yourself and others dumb enough to listen to you.
Just a dumb question:
Would Attorney General Blumenthal & his group be considered the
plaintiff and the IDSA the defense then each of the two sides findings
are presented or if you want to call it evidence in ref to
Blumenthal's side - now the question is : Is it the JUDGE who looks
everthing over and then the judge would be the one who makes the
final decision if quilty or not quilty in ref. to the IDSA having
financial interest involved in these quidelines------------------------
L
Re: GOT A SCIENTIFIC QUESTION ABOUT THE LYME CRIMES?
On May 17, 11:51 pm, lipanz <lipanzmari...@aol,com > wrote:
> On May 15, 2:52=EF=BF=BDpm, the 3rd Man <sir_de...@yahoo,com > wrote:
>
>
>
> > On May 15, 10:41=EF=BF=BDam, Mort Zuckerman <morph...@yahoo,com > wrote:
>
> > > http :// www .actionlyme.org
>
> > No.
>
> > In case you missed it, Attorney General Blumenthal ("super
> > Blumenthal", to you) and his staff ATTORNEYS have recently completed
> > what I'm SURE was an exhaustive investigation of the IDSA Guidelines
> > process.
>
> > If anything appeared in the course of that investigation that would
> > have indicated that there was probable cause to think a crime might
> > have been committed, they would have been duty-bound to pursue that.
>
> > Didn't happen. YOU have been proven WRONG.
>
> > Time for you now to move on and try to get a life.
>
> > You're only hurting yourself and others dumb enough to listen to you.
>
> Just a dumb question:
> Would Attorney General Blumenthal & his group be considered the
> plaintiff and the IDSA the defense then each of the two sides findings
> are presented or if you want to call it evidence in ref to
> Blumenthal's side - now the question is : Is it the JUDGE who looks
> everthing over and then the judge would be the one who makes the
> final decision if quilty or not quilty in ref. to the IDSA having
> financial interest involved in these quidelines------------------------
> L
All that this does is open it all up to criminal charges later, when
it is found by a panel that IDSA (it's actually the ALDF,com and
Kaiser) defrauded the United States.
The basis of it all was the change in the testing for Lyme at
Dearborn.
On May 17, 11:51 pm, lipanz <lipanzmari...@aol,com > wrote:
> On May 15, 2:52=EF=BF=BDpm, the 3rd Man <sir_de...@yahoo,com > wrote:
>
>
>
> > On May 15, 10:41=EF=BF=BDam, Mort Zuckerman <morph...@yahoo,com > wrote:
>
> > > http :// www .actionlyme.org
>
> > No.
>
> > In case you missed it, Attorney General Blumenthal ("super
> > Blumenthal", to you) and his staff ATTORNEYS have recently completed
> > what I'm SURE was an exhaustive investigation of the IDSA Guidelines
> > process.
>
> > If anything appeared in the course of that investigation that would
> > have indicated that there was probable cause to think a crime might
> > have been committed, they would have been duty-bound to pursue that.
>
> > Didn't happen. YOU have been proven WRONG.
>
> > Time for you now to move on and try to get a life.
>
> > You're only hurting yourself and others dumb enough to listen to you.
>
> Just a dumb question:
> Would Attorney General Blumenthal & his group be considered the
> plaintiff and the IDSA the defense then each of the two sides findings
> are presented or if you want to call it evidence in ref to
> Blumenthal's side - now the question is : Is it the JUDGE who looks
> everthing over and then the judge would be the one who makes the
> final decision if quilty or not quilty in ref. to the IDSA having
> financial interest involved in these quidelines------------------------
> L
All that this does is open it all up to criminal charges later, when
it is found by a panel that IDSA (it's actually the ALDF,com and
Kaiser) defrauded the United States.
The basis of it all was the change in the testing for Lyme at
Dearborn.
Re: GOT A SCIENTIFIC QUESTION ABOUT THE LYME CRIMES?
On May 18, 3:55 am, Mort Zuckerman <morph...@yahoo,com > wrote:
> > L
>
> All that this does is open it all up to criminal charges later, when
> it is found by a panel that IDSA (it's actually the ALDF,com and
> Kaiser) defrauded the United States.
You moron.
Are you EVER going to stop demonstrating how little you know?
Yeah? Don't you STILL get this? Who do you think is going to file
these charges? NOT Blumenthal.
Who do you think is even going to waste the time to look at it, now?
Geeezus, you're dim.
And in re the goddamned testing at goddamned Dearborn, for the
hundreth goddamned time...the diagnosis of Lyme disease is a CLINICAL
DIAGNOSIS...NOT based upon serology alone.
You cannot build a claim upon that...YOU MORONIC BABBLING IDIOT.
(Another abuse report sent).
On May 18, 3:55 am, Mort Zuckerman <morph...@yahoo,com > wrote:
> > L
>
> All that this does is open it all up to criminal charges later, when
> it is found by a panel that IDSA (it's actually the ALDF,com and
> Kaiser) defrauded the United States.
You moron.
Are you EVER going to stop demonstrating how little you know?
Yeah? Don't you STILL get this? Who do you think is going to file
these charges? NOT Blumenthal.
Who do you think is even going to waste the time to look at it, now?
Geeezus, you're dim.
And in re the goddamned testing at goddamned Dearborn, for the
hundreth goddamned time...the diagnosis of Lyme disease is a CLINICAL
DIAGNOSIS...NOT based upon serology alone.
You cannot build a claim upon that...YOU MORONIC BABBLING IDIOT.
(Another abuse report sent).
Re: GOT A SCIENTIFIC QUESTION ABOUT THE LYME CRIMES?
On May 17, 10:51=C2=A0pm, lipanz <lipanzmari...@aol,com > wrote:
> On May 15, 2:52=EF=BF=BDpm, the 3rd Man <sir_de...@yahoo,com > wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On May 15, 10:41=EF=BF=BDam, Mort Zuckerman <morph...@yahoo,com > wrote:
>
> > > http :// www .actionlyme.org
>
> > No.
>
> > In case you missed it, Attorney General Blumenthal ("super
> > Blumenthal", to you) and his staff ATTORNEYS have recently completed
> > what I'm SURE was an exhaustive investigation of the IDSA Guidelines
> > process.
>
> > If anything appeared in the course of that investigation that would
> > have indicated that there was probable cause to think a crime might
> > have been committed, they would have been duty-bound to pursue that.
>
> > Didn't happen. YOU have been proven WRONG.
>
> > Time for you now to move on and try to get a life.
>
> > You're only hurting yourself and others dumb enough to listen to you.
>
> Just a dumb question:
> Would Attorney General Blumenthal & his group be considered the
> plaintiff and the IDSA the defense then each of the two sides findings
> are presented =C2=A0or if you want to call it evidence in ref to
> Blumenthal's side - now the question is : =C2=A0 Is it the JUDGE who looks=
> everthing over and =C2=A0then the judge would be the one who makes the
> final decision if quilty or not quilty in ref. to the IDSA having
> financial interest involved in these quidelines------------------------
> L- Hide quoted text -
>
This is a SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT.
NOTHING is going to appear before a Court.
IF Blumenthal had decided to take this to Court (on what grounds, I
cannot imagine)...then He would have had to present his "findings" to
a Judge and have the judge rule on them.
But this did NOT happen...and without the IDSA then, admitting them,
his "findings" have NO legal meaning WHATEVER.
Despite all the talk of glorious victory from the LDA. It's NOT a
"ruling"..,it 's NOT a "finding"..,it means ZERO.
But basically, YES, if the thing HAD in fact, proceeded to a
hearing...then it would be a JUDGE who would make the
determination...NOT Blumenthal.
On May 17, 10:51=C2=A0pm, lipanz <lipanzmari...@aol,com > wrote:
> On May 15, 2:52=EF=BF=BDpm, the 3rd Man <sir_de...@yahoo,com > wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On May 15, 10:41=EF=BF=BDam, Mort Zuckerman <morph...@yahoo,com > wrote:
>
> > > http :// www .actionlyme.org
>
> > No.
>
> > In case you missed it, Attorney General Blumenthal ("super
> > Blumenthal", to you) and his staff ATTORNEYS have recently completed
> > what I'm SURE was an exhaustive investigation of the IDSA Guidelines
> > process.
>
> > If anything appeared in the course of that investigation that would
> > have indicated that there was probable cause to think a crime might
> > have been committed, they would have been duty-bound to pursue that.
>
> > Didn't happen. YOU have been proven WRONG.
>
> > Time for you now to move on and try to get a life.
>
> > You're only hurting yourself and others dumb enough to listen to you.
>
> Just a dumb question:
> Would Attorney General Blumenthal & his group be considered the
> plaintiff and the IDSA the defense then each of the two sides findings
> are presented =C2=A0or if you want to call it evidence in ref to
> Blumenthal's side - now the question is : =C2=A0 Is it the JUDGE who looks=
> everthing over and =C2=A0then the judge would be the one who makes the
> final decision if quilty or not quilty in ref. to the IDSA having
> financial interest involved in these quidelines------------------------
> L- Hide quoted text -
>
This is a SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT.
NOTHING is going to appear before a Court.
IF Blumenthal had decided to take this to Court (on what grounds, I
cannot imagine)...then He would have had to present his "findings" to
a Judge and have the judge rule on them.
But this did NOT happen...and without the IDSA then, admitting them,
his "findings" have NO legal meaning WHATEVER.
Despite all the talk of glorious victory from the LDA. It's NOT a
"ruling"..,it 's NOT a "finding"..,it means ZERO.
But basically, YES, if the thing HAD in fact, proceeded to a
hearing...then it would be a JUDGE who would make the
determination...NOT Blumenthal.
Re: GOT A SCIENTIFIC QUESTION ABOUT THE LYME CRIMES?
On May 15, 8:41 am, Mort Zuckerman <morph...@yahoo,com > wrote:
> http :// www .actionlyme.org
Not too much science there to be honest. So Lyme can trigger and auto-
immune condition, that is not news for me, neither for the IDSA. I
agree they haven't taken that issue with the seriousness it demands. I
don't doubt there could've been conflict of interests to some degree,
but what institution doesn't have them?. Robert Gallo the guy that co-
discovered HIV is probably billionaire from the patent he holds on the
test alone, these tests have never been validated through blood
cultures of the virus.
If you see the settlement as a victory, well...
On May 15, 8:41 am, Mort Zuckerman <morph...@yahoo,com > wrote:
> http :// www .actionlyme.org
Not too much science there to be honest. So Lyme can trigger and auto-
immune condition, that is not news for me, neither for the IDSA. I
agree they haven't taken that issue with the seriousness it demands. I
don't doubt there could've been conflict of interests to some degree,
but what institution doesn't have them?. Robert Gallo the guy that co-
discovered HIV is probably billionaire from the patent he holds on the
test alone, these tests have never been validated through blood
cultures of the virus.
If you see the settlement as a victory, well...
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