somatic delusions of infection or disease are not rare in psychiatrically ill patients.

somatic delusions of infection or disease are not rare in psychiatrically ill patients.

The second point is that seemingly innocuous "folk remedies," such as
the one in our case, can lead to permanent harm. Given the fact that
somatic delusions of infection or disease are not rare in
psychiatrically ill patients, the use of colloidal silver might appear
attractive to vulnerable patients. Clinicians are urged to be aware of
the popularity and potential harm of the "remedy" presented in this
case.

http :// ajp.psychiatryonline.org/cgi/content/full/165/5/649-a

Re: somatic delusions of infection or disease are not rare in psychiatrically ill patients.

On May 15, 11:38 am, BrentB <borgersbr...@yahoo,com > wrote:
> The second point is that seemingly innocuous "folk remedies," such as
> the one in our case, can lead to permanent harm. Given the fact that
> somatic delusions of infection or disease are not rare in
> psychiatrically ill patients, the use of colloidal silver might appear
> attractive to vulnerable patients. Clinicians are urged to be aware of
> the popularity and potential harm of the "remedy" presented in this
> case.
>
> http :// ajp.psychiatryonline.org/cgi/content/full/165/5/649-a

But from the article I don't see the connection of psychiatrically ill
and coloidal silver. Did the person had a history of mental illness?
was he on any medication?. People that are ignorant or naive can be
victims of scams but that doesn't necessarily imply that they have to
be psychiatrically ill. Sure the guy could've not have any chronic
infection but how did the Drs. established that his symptoms were
psychosomatic? it could've been a condition hard to diagnose, such as
M.E., M.S, Alzheimer (which causes dementia), CJD etc. Some of these
conditions take years before they can show evidence on MRIs, spinal
tap, etc. In fact M.S was in the past considered psychosomatic and
referred to as hysterical paralysis.

Re: somatic delusions of infection or disease are not rare in psychiatrically ill patients.

On May 15, 1:55 pm, chronichel...@yahoo,com wrote:
> On May 15, 11:38 am, BrentB <borgersbr...@yahoo,com > wrote:
>
> > The second point is that seemingly innocuous "folk remedies," such as
> > the one in our case, can lead to permanent harm. Given the fact that
> > somatic delusions of infection or disease are not rare in
> > psychiatrically ill patients, the use of colloidal silver might appear
> > attractive to vulnerable patients. Clinicians are urged to be aware of
> > the popularity and potential harm of the "remedy" presented in this
> > case.
>
> > http :// ajp.psychiatryonline.org/cgi/content/full/165/5/649-a
>
> But from the article I don't see the connection of psychiatrically ill
> and coloidal silver. Did the person had a history of mental illness?
> was he on any medication?.
>People that are ignorant or naive can be
> victims of scams but that doesn't necessarily imply that they have to
> be psychiatrically ill. Sure the guy could've not have any chronic
> infection but how did the Drs. established that his symptoms were
> psychosomatic? it could've been a condition hard to diagnose, such as
> M.E., M.S, Alzheimer (which causes dementia), CJD etc. Some of these
> conditions take years before they can show evidence on MRIs, spinal
> tap, etc. In fact M.S was in the past considered psychosomatic and
> referred to as hysterical paralysis.

Good stuff and I'd agree...I wasn't that interested in the colloidal
silver aspect. The fact that "somatic delusions of infection" are not
rare is what I found very interesting. A better description would be
chronically infected people who know damn well what's going on.

Re: somatic delusions of infection or disease are not rare in psychiatrically ill patients.

On May 15, 2:32 pm, BrentB <borgersbr...@yahoo,com > wrote:
>
> Good stuff and I'd agree...I wasn't that interested in the colloidal
> silver aspect.

The fact that "somatic delusions of infection" are not
> rare is what I found very interesting.

LOL. So do I. It explains a lot of what is being posted about Lyme
disease on the internet.

A better description would be
> chronically infected people who know damn well what's going on.-

Brent: They are saying that the guy was nuts. (See the part where he
tried to ace himself by not taking the stairs)? That he thought he had
an STD. He treated himself with CS and turned blue.

You dumbass...do you bother to read this stuff? Are you smoking a
little weed while posting, again?

Re: somatic delusions of infection or disease are not rare in psychiatrically ill patients.

On May 15, 2:38 pm, the 3rd Man <sir de...@yahoo,com > wrote:
> On May 15, 2:32 pm, BrentB <borgersbr...@yahoo,com > wrote:
>
>
>
> > Good stuff and I'd agree...I wasn't that interested in the colloidal
> > silver aspect.
>
> The fact that "somatic delusions of infection" are not
>
> > rare is what I found very interesting.
>
> LOL. So do I. It explains a lot of what is being posted about Lyme
> disease on the internet.
>
> A better description would be
>
> > chronically infected people who know damn well what's going on.-
>
> Brent: They are saying that the guy was nuts. (See the part where he
> tried to ace himself by not taking the stairs)? That he thought he had
> an STD. He treated himself with CS and turned blue.
>
> You dumbass...do you bother to read this stuff? Are you smoking a
> little weed while posting, again?

Well see...they thought I was nuts despite testing positive for
borrelia AND having a sinus OBLITERATED by some magical happening
which they didn't even bother to theorize on.(kinda like WTC7). I also
(like him) was cleared of all infection by "normal laboratory
examinations" and given a worthless BS diagnoses. See why this is so
damn funny to me.

Re: somatic delusions of infection or disease are not rare in psychiatrically ill patients.

On May 15, 2:56 pm, BrentB <borgersbr...@yahoo,com > wrote:
> On May 15, 2:38 pm, the 3rd Man <sir de...@yahoo,com > wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On May 15, 2:32 pm, BrentB <borgersbr...@yahoo,com > wrote:
>
> > > Good stuff and I'd agree...I wasn't that interested in the colloidal
> > > silver aspect.
>
> > The fact that "somatic delusions of infection" are not
>
> > > rare is what I found very interesting.
>
> > LOL. So do I. It explains a lot of what is being posted about Lyme
> > disease on the internet.
>
> > A better description would be
>
> > > chronically infected people who know damn well what's going on.-
>
> > Brent: They are saying that the guy was nuts. (See the part where he
> > tried to ace himself by not taking the stairs)? That he thought he had
> > an STD. He treated himself with CS and turned blue.
>
> > You dumbass...do you bother to read this stuff? Are you smoking a
> > little weed while posting, again?
>
> Well see...they thought I was nuts...

Oh...imagine THAT! Yes, certainly seems illogical to me...(giggle,
smirk).

See why this is so
> damn funny to me.-

Brent...have been missing you, ...this place desperately needs comic
relief.

Have you been laying low since that "blue man" story hit the airwaves
bigtime? Know the one I mean? Should I post a link?

Man, I bet that wasn't too good for b'ness, was it? No silver lining
in that sucker, huh?

But what's with this? You are now working for the opposition? You
shameless hussy...you trollop, you...

Didn't they tell you that you are NOT supposed to emphasize possible
argyria as a side-effect?

Re: somatic delusions of infection or disease are not rare in psychiatrically ill patients.

On May 15, 3:05 pm, the 3rd Man <sir de...@yahoo,com > wrote:
> On May 15, 2:56 pm, BrentB <borgersbr...@yahoo,com > wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On May 15, 2:38 pm, the 3rd Man <sir de...@yahoo,com > wrote:
>
> > > On May 15, 2:32 pm, BrentB <borgersbr...@yahoo,com > wrote:
>
> > > > Good stuff and I'd agree...I wasn't that interested in the colloidal
> > > > silver aspect.
>
> > > The fact that "somatic delusions of infection" are not
>
> > > > rare is what I found very interesting.
>
> > > LOL. So do I. It explains a lot of what is being posted about Lyme
> > > disease on the internet.
>
> > > A better description would be
>
> > > > chronically infected people who know damn well what's going on.-
>
> > > Brent: They are saying that the guy was nuts. (See the part where he
> > > tried to ace himself by not taking the stairs)? That he thought he had
> > > an STD. He treated himself with CS and turned blue.
>
> > > You dumbass...do you bother to read this stuff? Are you smoking a
> > > little weed while posting, again?
>
> > Well see...they thought I was nuts...
>
> Oh...imagine THAT! Yes, certainly seems illogical to me...(giggle,
> smirk).
>
> See why this is so
>
> > damn funny to me.-
>
> Brent...have been missing you, ...this place desperately needs comic
> relief.
>
> Have you been laying low since that "blue man" story hit the airwaves
> bigtime? Know the one I mean? Should I post a link?
>
> Man, I bet that wasn't too good for b'ness, was it? No silver lining
> in that sucker, huh?
>
> But what's with this? You are now working for the opposition? You
> shameless hussy...you trollop, you...
>
> Didn't they tell you that you are NOT supposed to emphasize possible
> argyria as a side-effect?- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Here ya go, Brent, old spammer...

http :// www .msnbc.msn,com /id/22536241/

Re: somatic delusions of infection or disease are not rare in psychiatrically ill patients.

On May 15, 3:05 pm, the 3rd Man <sir de...@yahoo,com > wrote:
> On May 15, 2:56 pm, BrentB <borgersbr...@yahoo,com > wrote:
>
>
>
> > On May 15, 2:38 pm, the 3rd Man <sir de...@yahoo,com > wrote:
>
> > > On May 15, 2:32 pm, BrentB <borgersbr...@yahoo,com > wrote:
>
> > > > Good stuff and I'd agree...I wasn't that interested in the colloidal
> > > > silver aspect.
>
> > > The fact that "somatic delusions of infection" are not
>
> > > > rare is what I found very interesting.
>
> > > LOL. So do I. It explains a lot of what is being posted about Lyme
> > > disease on the internet.
>
> > > A better description would be
>
> > > > chronically infected people who know damn well what's going on.-
>
> > > Brent: They are saying that the guy was nuts. (See the part where he
> > > tried to ace himself by not taking the stairs)? That he thought he had
> > > an STD. He treated himself with CS and turned blue.
>
> > > You dumbass...do you bother to read this stuff? Are you smoking a
> > > little weed while posting, again?
>
> > Well see...they thought I was nuts...
>
> Oh...imagine THAT! Yes, certainly seems illogical to me...(giggle,
> smirk).
>
> See why this is so
>
> > damn funny to me.-
>
> Brent...have been missing you, ...this place desperately needs comic
> relief.
>


Not lately...plenty of comic relief as Blumenthal tries to remove his
foot from the political crap he stepped in.

Re: somatic delusions of infection or disease are not rare in psychiatrically ill patients.

On May 16, 9:07 am, BrentB <borgersbr...@yahoo,com > wrote:

> Not lately...plenty of comic relief as Blumenthal tries to remove his
> foot from the political crap he stepped in.-

(Well, for once, I am forced to agree with you, there...and the LDA
certainly led him down the path and forgot to tell him to mind where
he stepped). I'll bet he is "in meetings" from here on out when the
Pat calls up...

But...tell us, Brent...do you think this is funny, too?

http :// www .msnbc.msn,com /id/22536241/

No comment about this? You feel NO shame or guilt whatever when you
see this sort of thing?

For relentlessly spamming and shilling this, and other health boards,
with dangerous and misleading nonsense about CS? Do you STILL deny
that you are profiting from this practice? And expect us to believe
that?

Oh...wait...before you tell us that he "did it wrong"...I'll just jump
in here and say it for you. See, anyone who turns blue using CS "did
it wrong", somehow...

What happens to these unfortunate people when they go to Hawaii? Do
they sunburn? Does the sun turn them some shade of purple?...

Inquiring minds want to know...

Re: somatic delusions of infection or disease are not rare in psychiatrically ill patients.

On May 16, 2:59 pm, the 3rd Man <sir de...@yahoo,com > wrote:
> On May 16, 9:07 am, BrentB <borgersbr...@yahoo,com > wrote:
>
> > Not lately...plenty of comic relief as Blumenthal tries to remove his
> > foot from the political crap he stepped in.-
>
> (Well, for once, I am forced to agree with you, there...and the LDA
> certainly led him down the path and forgot to tell him to mind where
> he stepped). I'll bet he is "in meetings" from here on out when the
> Pat calls up...
>
> But...tell us, Brent...do you think this is funny, too?
>
> http :// www .msnbc.msn,com /id/22536241/
>
> No comment about this? You feel NO shame or guilt whatever when you
> see this sort of thing?

You know damn well that's the type of question you must face.

>
> For relentlessly spamming and shilling this, and other health boards,
> with dangerous and misleading nonsense about CS? Do you STILL deny
> that you are profiting from this practice? And expect us to believe
> that?
>
> Oh...wait...before you tell us that he "did it wrong"...I'll just jump
> in here and say it for you. See, anyone who turns blue using CS "did
> it wrong", somehow...
>
> What happens to these unfortunate people when they go to Hawaii? Do
> they sunburn? Does the sun turn them some shade of purple?...
>
> Inquiring minds want to know...

Actually MMS (Clo2) not CS seams to be doing the trick. But yea...he
did it wrong.

Re: somatic delusions of infection or disease are not rare in psychiatrically ill patients.

On May 16, 8:19 pm, BrentB <borgersbr...@yahoo,com > wrote:

> > No comment about this? You feel NO shame or guilt whatever when you
> > see this sort of thing?
>
> You know damn well that's the type of question you must face.

What? ME? For WHAT?

Since when?

What I am asking you is if you feel any sense of shame or guilt when
you see someone turn themselves a PERMANENT disfiguring very un-
natural shade of blue...

...when YOU have been constantly urging people to use the very product
that has permanenetly injured this man.

I think you know that I am FAR from ever having advocated the use of
this silver swill.

Why don't you try answering?

Do you feel ANY responsibility for this?

Do you think that there might be others out there who may also have
permanently disfigured themselves because of what YOU urged them to
do?

Re: somatic delusions of infection or disease are not rare in psychiatrically ill patients.

On May 15, 12:32 pm, BrentB <borgersbr...@yahoo,com > wrote:
> On May 15, 1:55 pm, chronichel...@yahoo,com wrote:
>
>
>
> > On May 15, 11:38 am, BrentB <borgersbr...@yahoo,com > wrote:
>
> > > The second point is that seemingly innocuous "folk remedies," such as
> > > the one in our case, can lead to permanent harm. Given the fact that
> > > somatic delusions of infection or disease are not rare in
> > > psychiatrically ill patients, the use of colloidal silver might appear
> > > attractive to vulnerable patients. Clinicians are urged to be aware of
> > > the popularity and potential harm of the "remedy" presented in this
> > > case.
>
> > > http :// ajp.psychiatryonline.org/cgi/content/full/165/5/649-a
>
> > But from the article I don't see the connection of psychiatrically ill
> > and coloidal silver. Did the person had a history of mental illness?
> > was he on any medication?.
> >People that are ignorant or naive can be
> > victims of scams but that doesn't necessarily imply that they have to
> > be psychiatrically ill. Sure the guy could've not have any chronic
> > infection but how did the Drs. established that his symptoms were
> > psychosomatic? it could've been a condition hard to diagnose, such as
> > M.E., M.S, Alzheimer (which causes dementia), CJD etc. Some of these
> > conditions take years before they can show evidence on MRIs, spinal
> > tap, etc. In fact M.S was in the past considered psychosomatic and
> > referred to as hysterical paralysis.
>
> Good stuff and I'd agree...I wasn't that interested in the colloidal
> silver aspect. The fact that "somatic delusions of infection" are not
> rare is what I found very interesting. A better description would be
> chronically infected people who know damn well what's going on.

But how do you establish a somatic delusion of infection with somebody
that knows damn well what's going on? and let's assume that it could
be easily established, then how do they differentiated a condition
with a different etiology (genetic, auto-immune) from a somatic
delusion of his symptoms? the information given in that article is not
enough (at least in my eyes) to establish that his perceived symptoms
were somatic in nature (even though is written as if it was a matter
of fact, or that the person even suffered from any psychiatric
illness).

Re: somatic delusions of infection or disease are not rare in psychiatrically ill patients.

On May 15, 2:48 pm, chronichel...@yahoo,com wrote:
> On May 15, 12:32 pm, BrentB <borgersbr...@yahoo,com > wrote:
>
>
>
> > On May 15, 1:55 pm, chronichel...@yahoo,com wrote:
>
> > > On May 15, 11:38 am, BrentB <borgersbr...@yahoo,com > wrote:
>
> > > > The second point is that seemingly innocuous "folk remedies," such as
> > > > the one in our case, can lead to permanent harm. Given the fact that
> > > > somatic delusions of infection or disease are not rare in
> > > > psychiatrically ill patients, the use of colloidal silver might appear
> > > > attractive to vulnerable patients. Clinicians are urged to be aware of
> > > > the popularity and potential harm of the "remedy" presented in this
> > > > case.
>
> > > > http :// ajp.psychiatryonline.org/cgi/content/full/165/5/649-a
>
> > > But from the article I don't see the connection of psychiatrically ill
> > > and coloidal silver. Did the person had a history of mental illness?
> > > was he on any medication?.
> > >People that are ignorant or naive can be
> > > victims of scams but that doesn't necessarily imply that they have to
> > > be psychiatrically ill. Sure the guy could've not have any chronic
> > > infection but how did the Drs. established that his symptoms were
> > > psychosomatic? it could've been a condition hard to diagnose, such as
> > > M.E., M.S, Alzheimer (which causes dementia), CJD etc. Some of these
> > > conditions take years before they can show evidence on MRIs, spinal
> > > tap, etc. In fact M.S was in the past considered psychosomatic and
> > > referred to as hysterical paralysis.
>
> > Good stuff and I'd agree...I wasn't that interested in the colloidal
> > silver aspect. The fact that "somatic delusions of infection" are not
> > rare is what I found very interesting. A better description would be
> > chronically infected people who know damn well what's going on.
>
> But how do you establish a somatic delusion of infection with somebody
> that knows damn well what's going on?
> and let's assume that it could
> be easily established, then how do they differentiated a condition
> with a different etiology (genetic, auto-immune) from a somatic
> delusion of his symptoms? the information given in that article is not
> enough (at least in my eyes) to establish that his perceived symptoms
> were somatic in nature (even though is written as if it was a matter
> of fact, or that the person even suffered from any psychiatric
> illness).

People who tell lies tend to state opinion as matters of fact. It's
annoying. Correct on your analysis...the dx of somatic delusion is
pulled from their butts. They even have the nerve to throw Morgellons
victims into the same dx despite obvious and easily found evidence of
a parasitic infection.

Re: somatic delusions of infection or disease are not rare in psychiatrically ill patients.

On May 16, 6:59 am, BrentB <borgersbr...@yahoo,com > wrote:
> On May 15, 2:48 pm, chronichel...@yahoo,com wrote:
>
>
>
> > On May 15, 12:32 pm, BrentB <borgersbr...@yahoo,com > wrote:
>
> > > On May 15, 1:55 pm, chronichel...@yahoo,com wrote:
>
> > > > On May 15, 11:38 am, BrentB <borgersbr...@yahoo,com > wrote:
>
> > > > > The second point is that seemingly innocuous "folk remedies," such as
> > > > > the one in our case, can lead to permanent harm. Given the fact that
> > > > > somatic delusions of infection or disease are not rare in
> > > > > psychiatrically ill patients, the use of colloidal silver might appear
> > > > > attractive to vulnerable patients. Clinicians are urged to be aware of
> > > > > the popularity and potential harm of the "remedy" presented in this
> > > > > case.
>
> > > > > http :// ajp.psychiatryonline.org/cgi/content/full/165/5/649-a
>
> > > > But from the article I don't see the connection of psychiatrically ill
> > > > and coloidal silver. Did the person had a history of mental illness?
> > > > was he on any medication?.
> > > >People that are ignorant or naive can be
> > > > victims of scams but that doesn't necessarily imply that they have to
> > > > be psychiatrically ill. Sure the guy could've not have any chronic
> > > > infection but how did the Drs. established that his symptoms were
> > > > psychosomatic? it could've been a condition hard to diagnose, such as
> > > > M.E., M.S, Alzheimer (which causes dementia), CJD etc. Some of these
> > > > conditions take years before they can show evidence on MRIs, spinal
> > > > tap, etc. In fact M.S was in the past considered psychosomatic and
> > > > referred to as hysterical paralysis.
>
> > > Good stuff and I'd agree...I wasn't that interested in the colloidal
> > > silver aspect. The fact that "somatic delusions of infection" are not
> > > rare is what I found very interesting. A better description would be
> > > chronically infected people who know damn well what's going on.
>
> > But how do you establish a somatic delusion of infection with somebody
> > that knows damn well what's going on?
> > and let's assume that it could
> > be easily established, then how do they differentiated a condition
> > with a different etiology (genetic, auto-immune) from a somatic
> > delusion of his symptoms? the information given in that article is not
> > enough (at least in my eyes) to establish that his perceived symptoms
> > were somatic in nature (even though is written as if it was a matter
> > of fact, or that the person even suffered from any psychiatri
> > illness).
>
> People who tell lies tend to state opinion as matters of fact. It's
> annoying. Correct on your analysis...the dx of somatic delusion is
> pulled from their butts. They even have the nerve to throw Morgellons
> victims into the same dx despite obvious and easily found evidence of
> a parasitic infection.

But somatic delusion does exist, psychosomatic symptoms are real, it
just that from the article I don't feel there is enough information to
conclude that. It would've been interesting if the authors had
included more information to reach their diagnosis, maybe they are
right (or probably they are) but the feeling I got after reading that
article was a generalization of a quick psychological assessment to
explain the symptoms. A more responsible article would have included
the history of the patient, ie: was he productive before he became
"mentally" or physically ill?, was a history in his family of mental
illness, what was his background (education etc), what were his
symptoms, what kind of disease he thought he had acquired, what was
his reason for attempting suicide? was that his first attempt? etc.
There is a lot of information that is left out. An alternate
explanation could be that the guy didn't had formal education, that he
thought he could have acquired HIV and was relating his physical
symptoms to that (symptoms that could've been manifested due to M.E
for example), he thought (due to his lack of education or even
intelligence) that colloidal silver could be the answer to his
problems. After realizing that not only his symptoms didn't go away
but also that he had developed argyria he went on to a crisis and
attempted suicide. But again the article doesn't tell the whole story
which I think is very misleading.

About Morgellons I haven't read any evidence that would convince me is
a parasitic infection (or any sort of infection), but I still keep an
open mind about it.

Re: somatic delusions of infection or disease are not rare in psychiatrically ill patients.

On May 16, 10:41 am, chronichel...@yahoo,com wrote:
> On May 16, 6:59 am, BrentB <borgersbr...@yahoo,com > wrote:
>
>
>
> > On May 15, 2:48 pm, chronichel...@yahoo,com wrote:
>
> > > On May 15, 12:32 pm, BrentB <borgersbr...@yahoo,com > wrote:
>
> > > > On May 15, 1:55 pm, chronichel...@yahoo,com wrote:
>
> > > > > On May 15, 11:38 am, BrentB <borgersbr...@yahoo,com > wrote:
>
> > > > > > The second point is that seemingly innocuous "folk remedies," such as
> > > > > > the one in our case, can lead to permanent harm. Given the fact that
> > > > > > somatic delusions of infection or disease are not rare in
> > > > > > psychiatrically ill patients, the use of colloidal silver might appear
> > > > > > attractive to vulnerable patients. Clinicians are urged to be aware of
> > > > > > the popularity and potential harm of the "remedy" presented in this
> > > > > > case.
>
> > > > > > http :// ajp.psychiatryonline.org/cgi/content/full/165/5/649-a
>
> > > > > But from the article I don't see the connection of psychiatrically ill
> > > > > and coloidal silver. Did the person had a history of mental illness?
> > > > > was he on any medication?.
> > > > >People that are ignorant or naive can be
> > > > > victims of scams but that doesn't necessarily imply that they have to
> > > > > be psychiatrically ill. Sure the guy could've not have any chronic
> > > > > infection but how did the Drs. established that his symptoms were
> > > > > psychosomatic? it could've been a condition hard to diagnose, such as
> > > > > M.E., M.S, Alzheimer (which causes dementia), CJD etc. Some of these
> > > > > conditions take years before they can show evidence on MRIs, spinal
> > > > > tap, etc. In fact M.S was in the past considered psychosomatic and
> > > > > referred to as hysterical paralysis.
>
> > > > Good stuff and I'd agree...I wasn't that interested in the colloidal
> > > > silver aspect. The fact that "somatic delusions of infection" are not
> > > > rare is what I found very interesting. A better description would be
> > > > chronically infected people who know damn well what's going on.
>
> > > But how do you establish a somatic delusion of infection with somebody
> > > that knows damn well what's going on?
> > > and let's assume that it could
> > > be easily established, then how do they differentiated a condition
> > > with a different etiology (genetic, auto-immune) from a somatic
> > > delusion of his symptoms? the information given in that article is not
> > > enough (at least in my eyes) to establish that his perceived symptoms
> > > were somatic in nature (even though is written as if it was a matter
> > > of fact, or that the person even suffered from any psychiatri
> > > illness).
>
> > People who tell lies tend to state opinion as matters of fact. It's
> > annoying. Correct on your analysis...the dx of somatic delusion is
> > pulled from their butts. They even have the nerve to throw Morgellons
> > victims into the same dx despite obvious and easily found evidence of
> > a parasitic infection.
>
> But somatic delusion does exist, psychosomatic symptoms are real, it
> just that from the article I don't feel there is enough information to
> conclude that. It would've been interesting if the authors had
> included more information to reach their diagnosis, maybe they are
> right (or probably they are) but the feeling I got after reading that
> article was a generalization of a quick psychological assessment to
> explain the symptoms. A more responsible article would have included
> the history of the patient, ie: was he productive before he became
> "mentally" or physically ill?, was a history in his family of mental
> illness, what was his background (education etc), what were his
> symptoms, what kind of disease he thought he had acquired, what was
> his reason for attempting suicide? was that his first attempt? etc.
> There is a lot of information that is left out. An alternate
> explanation could be that the guy didn't had formal education, that he
> thought he could have acquired HIV and was relating his physical
> symptoms to that (symptoms that could've been manifested due to M.E
> for example), he thought (due to his lack of education or even
> intelligence) that colloidal silver could be the answer to his
> problems. After realizing that not only his symptoms didn't go away
> but also that he had developed argyria he went on to a crisis and
> attempted suicide. But again the article doesn't tell the whole story
> which I think is very misleading.
>
> About Morgellons I haven't read any evidence that would convince me is
> a parasitic infection (or any sort of infection), but I still keep an
> open mind about it.

What I would really like to see, is a case study where the person had
a delusion where he/she thought that his symptoms where somatic but
that in reality he was suffering from a physical condition. It should
work both ways right?