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CALDA'ed out on strikes ("Don't be called out on strikes. Go down swinging").
CALDA'ed out on strikes ("Don't be called out on strikes. Go down swinging").
In response to the following comment by one rare LymeNUT who seems to
have been able to figure it out :
"Oy! This review ain't gonna' do squat for us"...
(and a moronic reply from Lisa, who said that it could actually hurt)
(not likely)...the Tincup published the following...a fairly dramatic
departure from an earlier comment that suggested that the IDSA panel
was found to be "guilty as sin", if I remember...
...and, NO...
...you may NOT explain...so long as you seem unable to realize that
there was no "decision" from the AG...other than to settle the
thing...and on terms that basically guarantee that nothing will be
changed.
(Ever remember hearing about separation of powers in gradeschool?
"Checks and balances"? Understand about the difference between the
executive and judicial branches)?
Now...this is somehow converted into a glorious PR victory?
We've managed to change people's thinking?
What?...they now see themselves as "one" with the healthcare universe?
Ooooommmm...
Whatta crock-of-crap...
===============================================================Tincup
Frequent Contributor
Member # 5829
posted 18 May, 2008 05:53 PM
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May I explain some of the process?
PRE- Attorney General Decision....
1. We have squat now. We have a harmful IDSA document that is
destroying lives, with NO one or NOTHING stopping this nightmare from
continuing for years on end.
2. We have a document (IDSA guidelines) that is used by IDiots and
insurance companies to deny treatment... which is thought by the
unsuspecting powerful people to be a "reliable" source... and as you
know, it is FAR from that. But THEY don't know it.
3. We have NO voice. Everything is their way or the highway. Papers,
TV, radio, medical journals and other media outlets connected to the
IDSA/insurance guidelines won't help us. We have NO credibility with
them or anyone. We've been called every name in the book in public for
years non-stop... and behind the scenes it has been even worse.
4. We have good doctors being threatened for even THINKING of stepping
outside the parameters of the IDSA guidelines and helping patients.
Our LLMD's are open targets for Medical Boards, Insurance Companies,
ducks with ruffled feathers, etc.. and we are losing our ONLY help and
hope... one by one.
5. We have doctors on the fence who want to treat us properly and who
KNOW they can't do it or even try without risking everything... so
they bow to the pressure and ship us right into the mouths of the
wolves (referral to IDiots) and we are "stuck".
6. Out of the entire government and all their powerful agencies we
have but a mere handful of people who have listened to our leaders and
who now want to help us ... and who have the ability to actually do
something for us.
Those trying to help us are up against BAD odds too and are WAY
outnumbered everywhere due to bad politics, lack of education about
Lyme by others in the medical and business fields.... and by the prior
"supposedly good" reputations of large medical organizations.
7. The ONLY support for the ones in power who WANT to help us consists
of a handful of LLMD's who have been under attack for years and whose
reputations have been sullied left and right by those opposing us.....
and a bunch of "dumb patients" who aren't physically sick but who are
all fanatical, vocal individuals and groups and very mentally ill...
as portrayed to all by the IDSA for years.
`````````````````````````````````````````````
I am SURE I have left out a lot... but let me move forward.
What we have now.. since the AG started the investigation and came out
with the press release.
1. Our worst nightmares- the ones who have stood in our way from all
levels of government and private industry- have been exposed. First by
having the investigation in progress. Keep in mind it took a LOT of
work to even make that happen. Now....
Imagine- every time we would tell folks that the IDSA was under
investigation by a government agency for fraud, anti-trust, monopoly,
etc... it made others not want to get too close to them.. and many
decent doctors and IDiots too... have been backing away from these
boys with the stinky pants.
2. We were given a foot in the door to many avenues previously closed
to us... because if this investigation into corruption were true or
possible... folks in power were wanting to know if it was, where for
years we've been ignored and no one cared.
Keep in mind OUR taxes are used to fund these idiots... and OUR
research dollars are going to support them and their institutions.
That is research money we could have used to find tests that work,
meds that would help and even possibly a cure.
Using our good money (taxes) for bad things is bad news. Example- If
YOU donated $50.00 to what you thought was a good organization that
was helping others (like Congress and state legislators are doing by
giving the IDSA research money).... and later learned it was really
the Klu-Klux-Klan masguarating under the guises of religion... well,
OOPS!
No one wants to get caught in that kind of situation... sooooooooo ...
now more powerful people are looking into this "Lyme" situation that
wouldn't usually care.
````````````````````````````````````
SORRY! It hasn't rained here in over 40 days... and I hear thunder!
Gotta shut down... back later to finish.
--------------------
If you get the choice to sit it out or dance...
``````````````````````````````````
Don't be called out on strikes. Go down swinging.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Posts: 6118 | From: The Moon | Registered: Jun 2004 | IP: Logged
In response to the following comment by one rare LymeNUT who seems to
have been able to figure it out :
"Oy! This review ain't gonna' do squat for us"...
(and a moronic reply from Lisa, who said that it could actually hurt)
(not likely)...the Tincup published the following...a fairly dramatic
departure from an earlier comment that suggested that the IDSA panel
was found to be "guilty as sin", if I remember...
...and, NO...
...you may NOT explain...so long as you seem unable to realize that
there was no "decision" from the AG...other than to settle the
thing...and on terms that basically guarantee that nothing will be
changed.
(Ever remember hearing about separation of powers in gradeschool?
"Checks and balances"? Understand about the difference between the
executive and judicial branches)?
Now...this is somehow converted into a glorious PR victory?
We've managed to change people's thinking?
What?...they now see themselves as "one" with the healthcare universe?
Ooooommmm...
Whatta crock-of-crap...
===============================================================Tincup
Frequent Contributor
Member # 5829
posted 18 May, 2008 05:53 PM
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
May I explain some of the process?
PRE- Attorney General Decision....
1. We have squat now. We have a harmful IDSA document that is
destroying lives, with NO one or NOTHING stopping this nightmare from
continuing for years on end.
2. We have a document (IDSA guidelines) that is used by IDiots and
insurance companies to deny treatment... which is thought by the
unsuspecting powerful people to be a "reliable" source... and as you
know, it is FAR from that. But THEY don't know it.
3. We have NO voice. Everything is their way or the highway. Papers,
TV, radio, medical journals and other media outlets connected to the
IDSA/insurance guidelines won't help us. We have NO credibility with
them or anyone. We've been called every name in the book in public for
years non-stop... and behind the scenes it has been even worse.
4. We have good doctors being threatened for even THINKING of stepping
outside the parameters of the IDSA guidelines and helping patients.
Our LLMD's are open targets for Medical Boards, Insurance Companies,
ducks with ruffled feathers, etc.. and we are losing our ONLY help and
hope... one by one.
5. We have doctors on the fence who want to treat us properly and who
KNOW they can't do it or even try without risking everything... so
they bow to the pressure and ship us right into the mouths of the
wolves (referral to IDiots) and we are "stuck".
6. Out of the entire government and all their powerful agencies we
have but a mere handful of people who have listened to our leaders and
who now want to help us ... and who have the ability to actually do
something for us.
Those trying to help us are up against BAD odds too and are WAY
outnumbered everywhere due to bad politics, lack of education about
Lyme by others in the medical and business fields.... and by the prior
"supposedly good" reputations of large medical organizations.
7. The ONLY support for the ones in power who WANT to help us consists
of a handful of LLMD's who have been under attack for years and whose
reputations have been sullied left and right by those opposing us.....
and a bunch of "dumb patients" who aren't physically sick but who are
all fanatical, vocal individuals and groups and very mentally ill...
as portrayed to all by the IDSA for years.
`````````````````````````````````````````````
I am SURE I have left out a lot... but let me move forward.
What we have now.. since the AG started the investigation and came out
with the press release.
1. Our worst nightmares- the ones who have stood in our way from all
levels of government and private industry- have been exposed. First by
having the investigation in progress. Keep in mind it took a LOT of
work to even make that happen. Now....
Imagine- every time we would tell folks that the IDSA was under
investigation by a government agency for fraud, anti-trust, monopoly,
etc... it made others not want to get too close to them.. and many
decent doctors and IDiots too... have been backing away from these
boys with the stinky pants.
2. We were given a foot in the door to many avenues previously closed
to us... because if this investigation into corruption were true or
possible... folks in power were wanting to know if it was, where for
years we've been ignored and no one cared.
Keep in mind OUR taxes are used to fund these idiots... and OUR
research dollars are going to support them and their institutions.
That is research money we could have used to find tests that work,
meds that would help and even possibly a cure.
Using our good money (taxes) for bad things is bad news. Example- If
YOU donated $50.00 to what you thought was a good organization that
was helping others (like Congress and state legislators are doing by
giving the IDSA research money).... and later learned it was really
the Klu-Klux-Klan masguarating under the guises of religion... well,
OOPS!
No one wants to get caught in that kind of situation... sooooooooo ...
now more powerful people are looking into this "Lyme" situation that
wouldn't usually care.
````````````````````````````````````
SORRY! It hasn't rained here in over 40 days... and I hear thunder!
Gotta shut down... back later to finish.
--------------------
If you get the choice to sit it out or dance...
``````````````````````````````````
Don't be called out on strikes. Go down swinging.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Posts: 6118 | From: The Moon | Registered: Jun 2004 | IP: Logged
Re: CALDA'ed out on strikes ("Don't be called out on strikes. Go down swinging").
On May 19, 9:46 am, the 3rd Man <derdrittemann2...@yahoo,com > wrote:
>
And, BTW...I am getting tired of people suggesting that I am
"masgurating" as "one of the boys with the stinky pants".
On May 19, 9:46 am, the 3rd Man <derdrittemann2...@yahoo,com > wrote:
>
And, BTW...I am getting tired of people suggesting that I am
"masgurating" as "one of the boys with the stinky pants".
Re: CALDA'ed out on strikes ("Don't be called out on strikes. Go down swinging").
the 3rd Man wrote:
> On May 19, 9:46 am, the 3rd Man <derdrittemann2...@yahoo,com > wrote:
> And, BTW...I am getting tired of people suggesting that I am
> "masgurating" as "one of the boys with the stinky pants".
Says ALL about these people; to these people I say: GFY.
the 3rd Man wrote:
> On May 19, 9:46 am, the 3rd Man <derdrittemann2...@yahoo,com > wrote:
> And, BTW...I am getting tired of people suggesting that I am
> "masgurating" as "one of the boys with the stinky pants".
Says ALL about these people; to these people I say: GFY.
