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Is the LDA "astroturfing"?
Is the LDA "astroturfing"?
Maybe not deliberately, intentionally...but is the effect the same?
http :// en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astroturfing
"...highly organized professional groups...with financial backing
from...non-profits"...
================================================================
"Astroturfing in American English is a neologism for formal public
relations campaigns in politics and advertising which seek to create
the impression of being spontaneous, grassroots behavior, hence the
reference to the artificial grass AstroTurf.
The goal of such a campaign is to disguise the efforts of a political
or commercial entity as an independent public reaction to some
political entity—a politician, political group, product, service or
event. Astroturfers attempt to orchestrate the actions of apparently
diverse and geographically distributed individuals, by both overt
("outreach", "awareness", etc.) and covert (disinformation) means.
Astroturfing may be undertaken by anything from an individual pushing
one's own personal agenda through to highly organized professional
groups with financial backing from large corporations, non-profits, or
activist organizations".
Maybe not deliberately, intentionally...but is the effect the same?
http :// en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astroturfing
"...highly organized professional groups...with financial backing
from...non-profits"...
================================================================
"Astroturfing in American English is a neologism for formal public
relations campaigns in politics and advertising which seek to create
the impression of being spontaneous, grassroots behavior, hence the
reference to the artificial grass AstroTurf.
The goal of such a campaign is to disguise the efforts of a political
or commercial entity as an independent public reaction to some
political entity—a politician, political group, product, service or
event. Astroturfers attempt to orchestrate the actions of apparently
diverse and geographically distributed individuals, by both overt
("outreach", "awareness", etc.) and covert (disinformation) means.
Astroturfing may be undertaken by anything from an individual pushing
one's own personal agenda through to highly organized professional
groups with financial backing from large corporations, non-profits, or
activist organizations".
Re: Is the LDA "astroturfing"?
3rd...you don't think its deliberate or intentional?
On May 24, 1:39 pm, the 3rd Man <derdrittemann2...@yahoo,com > wrote:
> Maybe not deliberately, intentionally...but is the effect the same?
>
> http :// en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astroturfing
>
> "...highly organized professional groups...with financial backing
> from...non-profits"...
>
> ================================================================
>
> "Astroturfing in American English is a neologism for formal public
> relations campaigns in politics and advertising which seek to create
> the impression of being spontaneous, grassroots behavior, hence the
> reference to the artificial grass AstroTurf.
>
> The goal of such a campaign is to disguise the efforts of a political
> or commercial entity as an independent public reaction to some
> political entity—a politician, political group, product, service or
> event. Astroturfers attempt to orchestrate the actions of apparently
> diverse and geographically distributed individuals, by both overt
> ("outreach", "awareness", etc.) and covert (disinformation) means.
> Astroturfing may be undertaken by anything from an individual pushing
> one's own personal agenda through to highly organized professional
> groups with financial backing from large corporations, non-profits, or
> activist organizations".
3rd...you don't think its deliberate or intentional?
On May 24, 1:39 pm, the 3rd Man <derdrittemann2...@yahoo,com > wrote:
> Maybe not deliberately, intentionally...but is the effect the same?
>
> http :// en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astroturfing
>
> "...highly organized professional groups...with financial backing
> from...non-profits"...
>
> ================================================================
>
> "Astroturfing in American English is a neologism for formal public
> relations campaigns in politics and advertising which seek to create
> the impression of being spontaneous, grassroots behavior, hence the
> reference to the artificial grass AstroTurf.
>
> The goal of such a campaign is to disguise the efforts of a political
> or commercial entity as an independent public reaction to some
> political entity—a politician, political group, product, service or
> event. Astroturfers attempt to orchestrate the actions of apparently
> diverse and geographically distributed individuals, by both overt
> ("outreach", "awareness", etc.) and covert (disinformation) means.
> Astroturfing may be undertaken by anything from an individual pushing
> one's own personal agenda through to highly organized professional
> groups with financial backing from large corporations, non-profits, or
> activist organizations".
Re: Is the LDA "astroturfing"?
On May 27, 12:06 pm, itsybitsy...@gmail,com wrote:
> 3rd...you don't think its deliberate or intentional?
I don't have any reason to think that, Itchy. (I'm not a mind-reader
like some others have been in regard to the motivations of the "Steere
Camp"). Everyone is entitled to a presumption of pure motives...(until
they get caught, that is, BTW). Personally, I doubt it. I sort of
suspect that this "arrangement" came together, relatively naturally,
as a reaction.
I guess, if it were deliberate or intentional, that would require a
fair degree of sophistication and intelligence on their part.
And...let's face it...when you look at the Pallone thing, the
Blumenthal mis-adventure, we are not talking "sophistication", here,
are we? I would have to think that we are, however, talking about some
relative political neophytes who are capable of allowing themselves to
be manipulated, though.
But...are some of the ILADS members quite well aware of what a sweet
deal it is for them to be able to benefit from such an alliance?
I would have to think so, yes.
For me, the important part here, is in realizing that when people are
talking about "conflict"...that this is largely a matter of degree...
...and that when you talk about the research grants and fees for
writing insurance guidelines that some accuse the Camp 'A' types of
receiving...that is a mere drop in the proverbial bucket, most likely,
compared to what ILADS, "Inc.", is probably raking in.
On May 27, 12:06 pm, itsybitsy...@gmail,com wrote:
> 3rd...you don't think its deliberate or intentional?
I don't have any reason to think that, Itchy. (I'm not a mind-reader
like some others have been in regard to the motivations of the "Steere
Camp"). Everyone is entitled to a presumption of pure motives...(until
they get caught, that is, BTW). Personally, I doubt it. I sort of
suspect that this "arrangement" came together, relatively naturally,
as a reaction.
I guess, if it were deliberate or intentional, that would require a
fair degree of sophistication and intelligence on their part.
And...let's face it...when you look at the Pallone thing, the
Blumenthal mis-adventure, we are not talking "sophistication", here,
are we? I would have to think that we are, however, talking about some
relative political neophytes who are capable of allowing themselves to
be manipulated, though.
But...are some of the ILADS members quite well aware of what a sweet
deal it is for them to be able to benefit from such an alliance?
I would have to think so, yes.
For me, the important part here, is in realizing that when people are
talking about "conflict"...that this is largely a matter of degree...
...and that when you talk about the research grants and fees for
writing insurance guidelines that some accuse the Camp 'A' types of
receiving...that is a mere drop in the proverbial bucket, most likely,
compared to what ILADS, "Inc.", is probably raking in.
