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Steere and the "Negative Data Rule"..."Re: [SpinLyme] EARTHTIMES:

Reply from: Mort Zuckerman
Date: 27 May 2008, 00:14
Steere and the "Negative Data Rule"..."Re: [SpinLyme] EARTHTIMES:

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Subject: Steere and the "Negative Data Rule"..."Re: [SpinLyme]
EARTHTIMES:

Date: May 26, 2008 6:11 PM

ANONYMOUS COMMENT:

Steere must be one sick and worried SOB for making misinformative
comments
about Lyme disease diagnosis and treatment the topic of a
commencement
address.

It is totally inappropriate, inconsiderate and irrelevant to tell this
to
young grads.

=====================

KATHLEEN:
I see a surprising amount of commentary out there about Steere daring
to rear his
horned head. And I also see that people still don't get what happened
with
the LYMErix trial and how that is associated with the Blumenthal Suit:
http :// www .fda.gov/ohrms/dockets/ac/01/slides/3680s2 11.pdf

It's the same story/same phenomenon.
What I told the FDA in 2001 at their hearing is the same scientific
fraud over which
Blumenthal sued the Bee stards.


It seems few to know people understood what I told the FDA Vaccine
Committee in
Jan 2001. It was about having a bogus test to throw out vaccine
failure data.
They called these cases "Unconfirmed Lyme."
http :// www .actionlyme.org/DICKSON FDA SUBMISSION FULL.htm


The same NEGATIVE DATA rule applies as regards Congenital Lyme:
http :// www .actionlyme.org/MOMS CAN GIVE LYME TO BABIES.htm

I labeled that page with baby talk text, because so many people don't
even know
what the word congenital means.

YIKES.

If the crooks don't want bad data, it is not found or funded.
It's the same deal as the PRIMERS SHELL GAME:
http :// www .actionlyme.org/PRIMERSHELLGAME.htm
1) Use the wrong primers if you don't want to find Lyme in people.
2) Use a test that does not detect the disease, and voila! you have a
"76%
safe and accurate" vaccine!
3) Deploy psychiatrists upon sick people complaining of chronic
fatigue syndrome,
and VOILA! once again, no data.

Tell people to take Paxil!!

Don't run any tests, and you don't get data you don't like :)))
either on the single patient scale or en masse, as regards, well, not
just Lyme
any more...

Psychiatrists are the most useful delusional idiots to ever have
emerged as far
as HMOs are concerned, and especially when Kaiser and SmithKline get
together:
http :// www .actionlyme.org/JUNE 13 2005 LETTER TO SPITZER.htm

"What do you think, Eliot?"
"Kaiser and SmithKline were fined $$$$ 87 million for defrauding Uncle
Sam
over the relabelling of Paxil and selliung it as a generic.
"What do you suppose the fine will be for defrauding Uncle Sam over
'Lyme Disease'?"


Steere said there was no "scientific" data on adverse events caused by
LYMErix at Ohio Wesleyan.

That's what I told the FDA, except I point out where Denise Huber said
LYMErix
could be a superantigen:
http :// www .fda.gov/ohrms/dockets/ac/01/slides/3680s2 11.pdf

Good.
Lyme is a superantigen for some, and the similar vaccines for
tuberculosis has the
same immune suppression outcomes:
http :// www .actionlyme.org/rOspA LYMErix Whats bad about it.htm

And Gary Wormser knew OspA vaccination suppressed the immune system,
like he knew
Steere's method to diagnose Lyme missed 85% of the cases.


*** Excuse me, but at what point are people going to stop listening to
what MDs
have to say?*** I mean, what's this hysteria over Steere at Ohio
Wesleyan
all about? We all know he's a moron and because of him we're nowhere
on
"Lyme Disease" after 33 years.

Well, except for being called stupid and incompetent by the Czech
Republic.
http :// www .actionlyme.org/CRYMEDISEASE CHP3 B.htm


http :// www .actionlyme.org/SCHOEN INSTRUCTING DOCS TO BLOW OFF LYMERIX INJUREES.htm

It was deliberate. There are 1998 instructions published even before
the FDA approved
LYMErix, by Yale's Robert Schoen, telling MDs to blow off LYMErix
injured people.


Kathleen M. Dickson



-----Original Message-----
>From: Kathleen <janmusinski@earthlink,net >
>Sent: May 24, 2008 4:32 PM
>Subject: [SpinLyme] EARTHTIMES: "Allen Steere a liar"
>
>Um, no.
>It's way simpler than that.
>Allen Steere committed the actual crime of "Lyme Disease" in Europe:
> http :// www .actionlyme.org/CRYMEDISEASE CHP3 B.htm
>
>The only scientifically valid test for Lyme is Yale's Flagellin method,
and in the end we WILL get someone from the FDA Bioanalytics Division
to explain
how science is done, or else they can be forced to do so under
supoena.
>
>There are no "ifs" about this:
> http :// www .fda.gov/CDER/GUIDANCE/4252fnl.htm
>
>Here were the results of the Dearborn Conference, and you can get that data
from the CDC, too, since you all happen to own it, having paid for
that research:
> http :// www .actionlyme.org/DEARBORN WHO SAID WHAT.htm
>WHO SAID WHAT AT DEARBORN
>
>1) Gary Wormser at New York Medical College- Steere’s method detected
9/59 cases
>
>2) Igenex- Steere’s IgG detected 8% of the cases
>
>3) Imugen – Steere’s method detected 14% of the cases
>
>4) Wisconsin—Steere’s method was 15% accurate
>
>5) UCONN- Larry Zemel was referring to Lyme as comparable to juvenile
rheumatoid arthritis. Recommended adding band 50 for children’s
blots.
>
>6) Roche—28% were positive for 5 of 10 Steere IgG bands.
>
>7) Wadsworth – had some different scoring system. Did not report on accuracy
of Steere
>
>8) Ontario Ministry of Health
>
>9) Lutheran Hospital— 14 % were accurate by Steere’s IgG
>
>10) MarDx Labs – recommended adding bands 31 and 34, but were given CDC positive
arthritis positive blood to falsely qualify their test strips. Theirs
were used
in both vaccine trials.
>
>11) CDC Atlanta – talked about mice, not humans. The mouse criteria was 2
out of three from OspC, 16 kD, 17.9 kD, for the mice.
>================================
>
>Not only was the test Steere developed not scientifically valid according to
the FDA's rules (this is not opinion, but rules of science cross-
applied in
all sciences), none among the invited labs came anywhere near agreeing
with Steere
when testing his proposal in the field.
>
>The data is all over my website. These bastards are scared shipless of murder
charges and we can prove it is murder with their own data.
>
>Allen Steere is a liar and a fool, and according to Gary Wormser, Steere's
method misses 85% of all cases.
>
>That's homicide, since the more serious cases - the cases that are not Steere's
imaginary autoimmune KNEE which he treats and retreats with
CEFTRIAXONE (for brain
diseases, speaking to what a moron Steere is):
> http :// www .actionlyme.org/CRYMEDISEASE CHP3 B.htm
>
>That's all Steere's data, so help yourself.
>
>Call the FDA and ask them if I am right.
>They're your employees, remember, so DEMAND they explain scientific validity
to you.
>
>Then ask them if Yale's Flagellin method is the most specific and accurate.
>
>If one antibody band that is 100% specific to Lyme (Yale's US Patent 5,618,533),
then how did they think they could propose/claim one 100% specific
antigen (OspA,
their other patent for the LYMErix vaccine) PREVENTS Lyme?
>
>
>Lyme Cryme is not just Kool-Aid, it's Nagasaki and Hiroshima- Fat Man and
Little Boy.
>
>Steere's Lyme Disease misses ~85% of all cases.
>Sorry, buck, that's homicide no matter how you look at it: 1) Dearborn Consensus-wise,
2) per the FDA's rules on scientific validity or t3) he One-Specific-
Antigen
Rule proposed by Yale (LYMErix- ONE 100% SPECIFIC ANTIGEN PREVENTS).
>
>None of this is twisted science, except for what comes out of Allen Steere's
CDC:
> http :// www .actionlyme.org/PLANET CDC.htm
>
>Kathleen M. Dickson
> http :// www .actionlyme.org
>
>
>====================================
>
> http :// www .earthtimes.org/articles/show/lyme-lies-allen-steeres-horrifying,407565.shtml
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>Lyme Lies: Allen Steere's horrifying comments regarding Lyme disease in
last week's commencement address
>Posted : Sat, 24 May 2008 15:50:14 GMT
>Author : T.L. Kittle
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>Commentary by T.L. Kittle LOS ANGELES, May 24
>
>
>LOS ANGELES, May 24 /PRNewswire/ -- As some people are already aware,
>there's a debate going on regarding Lyme disease (it's actually more
like a
>war) regarding who should be treated for Lyme disease and how long that
>treatment should be.
>
>
>(Lyme disease is a bacterial infection caused by tick bites that can lead
>to debilitating symptoms, including severe neurological problems.)
>
>
>Allen Steere, as a member of the IDSA (Infectious Diseases Society of
>America) and having spent decades studying the disease, is well regarded by
>many as an "expert" on Lyme disease. Therefore it is of utmost importance
>that he presents the facts on Lyme disease as they are currently known
>truthfully to the unknowing public -- especially given his stature in the
>medical community.
>
>
>The main problem with this speech and his argument about Lyme Disease, is
>that he's basing the entire argument on whether or not someone who is ill
with
>Lyme symptoms should be treated with antibiotic therapy and for how long on
>diagnostic testing -- presenting diagnostic testing as if these tests were
>100% reliable, which is false information -- horrifying by someone who is
>supposed to be honoring the science.
>
>
>"Diagnostic tests based on scientific studies fail to show evidence of
>Lyme disease in most of these patients," stated Allen Steere.
>
>
>It's only true that these patients did indeed 'for sure' not have
Lyme
>disease if it's true that diagnostic tests are 100% accurate-when in fact,
>Lyme tests have been scientifically proven to produce false negatives.
>
>
>Therefore, Allen Steere misrepresented the facts about Lyme disease to the
>Ohio Wesleyan University 2008 graduates. Since diagnostic testing for Lyme
>disease is not 100% reliable, then this means some of these patients with
>negative results might have actually had Lyme disease, making antibiotic
>therapy appropriate.
>
>
>Since he states he holds scientific facts so valuably, then why is he
>basing his argument on whether or not someone should be treated with
>antibiotic therapy for Lyme disease on a falsehood?
>
>
>It is irresponsible and an insult to scientific evidence to misrepresent
>the evidence by leaving out the false negative rate for Lyme tests --
>especially by someone who claims to be standing by the science without
>informing the audience that the science itself has proven not to be 100%
>reliable -- that it is a scientific proven fact that Lyme tests are not always
>accurate, making it absolutely necessary to treat some people with Lyme
>disease who have negative diagnostic testing-people with no laboratory
>evidence of the disease -- people on paper who 'scientifically' don't
have it.
>
>
>It seems he's throwing his weight around, using the power of the IDSA and
>the medical institutions he's connected to, to misrepresent the decisions
>behind when to treat people with antibiotic therapy for Lyme disease and for
>how long by omitting a discussion of the false negatives in this speech.
>
>
>He's right that antibiotics can cause harm, and he's right that there's
>always going to be patients who get better based on the placebo effect alone
>-- this is *not* specific to Lyme disease --
>
>
>However, there's another side to "do no harm": the harm caused
when
>something is not given to someone who needs it (ie, not feeding one's
>children). Therefore, it should be the patient's decision in collaboration
>with their physician on how they want to proceed medically when their
>diagnostic tests have come back negative.
>
>
>It's a shame that Steere didn't use this speech as an opportunity to
talk
>in depth regarding how many unknowns there are in medicine-therefore, in order
>to care for people adequately, it is essential to listen to patient's clinical
>information until science has all the answers--since it is impossible to tell
>the 'faker' from someone who is genuinely recovering, then the medical
>professional has to make a choice regarding how they want to practice
>medicine--based on test results that have been scientifically confirmed to be
>faulty, or to be a physician who practices medicine based on clinical
>information and human compassion?
>
>
>Since the tests are not 100% accurate, then test results are obviously not
>the only way someone should be diagnosed and determined 'scientifically'
to
>have Lyme disease --
>
>
>As Steere states in his speech, "If you ignore scientific reality, if you
>twist it, if you wish for a particular answer, you will miss Mars and drift
in
>space." The message behind this statement is absolutely correct-it is
>absolutely vital to honor the science-which includes when the science is
>saying it doesn't have a definitive answer, and therefore it is impossible
to
>make definitive conclusions regarding all aspects of the disease.
>
>
>To hold diagnostic testing up as the only marker for determining whether
>or not someone has Lyme disease is misrepresentation of the disease.
>
>
>It's amazing to think of how many people are suffering unnecessarily based
>on the omission of this one key scientific fact-especially since he has a
>ethical (and legal?) responsibility to share the whole truth.
>
>
>
>T. L. Kittle suffers with a chronic illness in the Los Angeles area,
>gratefully under the care of extraordinary physicians. Kittle is in the
>process of establishing a medical non-profit to address issues regarding lack
>of access to care as well as lack of physician control over medical care.
>
>Link to the text of Allen Steere's speech:
> http :// commencement.owu.edu/2008Congratulations.html
>
>
>
>SOURCE T.L. Kittle
>
>
>
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