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Autoimmune disease and hemolysis

Reply from: ironjustice@aol.com
Date: 03 Apr, 13:54
Hemolytic .. anemia .. iron .. LOADING.

Hemolytic anemia is when the red blood cells self destruct / hemo-
lysis.

http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/ency/article/000571.htm#Causes,%20incidence,%20and%20risk%20factors

This is a subcategory of hemolytic anemia .. autoimmune disorder.

http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/ency/article/000816.htm

Autoimmune disorder is mimiced .. by .. iron overload.

Iron overload does a VERY good Elvis impersonation OF .. autoimmune
disorder.

In FACT .. 'they' .. cannot distinguish between the two and discover
the iron CAUSING the autoimmune disorder .. ONLY .. by .. luck.
http://tinyurl.com/23cj3d

Soo .. the fact they say .. "you have no iron in your body" .. is
technically . a .. lie.

Beeeecauuuusssee .. ?

See above.

They .. will tell you they can tell AND know **beyond a shadow of a
doubt** .. "that you have .. autoimmune disease" .. WHEN in FACT ..
it is the .. iron .. IN .. **excess** ..

PROVEN .. http://tinyurl.com/23cj3d

Sooo .. the sheer .. number OF .. hemolytic people WITH ..
arthritis .. 35% .. leads one to believe the fact .. they .. sell us
iron binders such as methotrexate , aspirin , indocin , etc .. FOR
arthritis .. leads one to believe they either don't .. **care** ..
ABOUT .. the .. iron .. OR .. they are technically pretty .. stupid.

Rev Rhum Ed Fr. 1994 Mar;61(3):174-8. Links
[Rheumatic diseases and hemoglobinopathies in Lome (Togo)][Article in
French]
Mijiyawa M, Segbena A, Vovor A, Nubukpo P, David M, Amedegnato MD.
Service de Rhumatologie (1), CHU-Tokoin, Lome, Togo.

This prospective cross-sectional study was designed to determine the
frequency and impact of hemoglobinopathies in rheumatology clinic
patients in Lome (Togo). Among the 405 study patients, 142 (35%) had
an abnormal hemoglobin, 22% had hemoglobin S, and 16.8% had hemoglobin
C. Sickle cell anemia and sickle cell-hemoglobin C disease (2% and
4.2% of patients respectively) were associated with vasoocclusive
crises and necrosis of the femoral head. Presence of AS or AC
(heterozygotic forms of hemoglobins S and C) was found in 15.8% and
12.1% of patients, respectively. These proportions were similar to
those reported in the population at large. Presence of AS or AC had no
detectable influence on degenerative spinal disease, osteoarthritis of
the knee, tendinitis or inflammatory joint diseases. Our data suggest
that presence of AS or AC has no adverse significance and should be
disregarded when evaluating patients with musculoskeletal symptoms.

PMID: 7920513 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]


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Reply from: NICK
Date: 04 Apr, 04:23
On Apr 3, 4:54 am, numbnutz wrote:

> http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/ency/article/000816.htm
>
> Autoimmune disorder is mimiced .. by .. iron overload.


That is NOT what the article at that links says................

IMMUNE SYSTEM DISORDERS AND ALLERGIES

Immune system disorders occur when the immune response is
inappropriate, excessive, or lacking. Allergies involve an immune
response to a substance that, in the majority of people, the body
perceives as harmless. Transplant rejection involves the destruction
of transplanted tissues or organs and is a major complication of organ
transplantation. Blood transfusion reaction is a problem caused by
receiving blood. Autoimmune disorders (such as systemic lupus
erythematosus and rheumatoid arthritis) occur when the immune system
acts to destroy normal body tissues. Immunodeficiency disorders (such
as inherited immunodeficiency and AIDS) occur when there is a failure
in all or part of the immune system.

Prevention Prevention may not be possible at this time for most
autoimmune disorders.

Update Date: 4/20/2005



> Man Is A Herbivore!

Born with incisors and canine teeth to rip apart, chew, and enjoy
MEAT.


... P.E.T.A. -- People Eating Tasty Animals


Reply from: ironjustice@aol.com
Date: 05 Apr, 01:53
>>On Apr 3, 7:23 pm, "NICK" <CALIFORNIA_CH...@PEOPLEPC.COM> wrote:
On Apr 3, 4:54 am, numbnutz wrote:

http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/ency/article/000816.htm
Autoimmune disorder is mimiced .. by .. iron overload.

That is NOT what the article at that links says................
<<
> IMMUNE SYSTEM DISORDERS AND ALLERGIES
>
> Immune system disorders occur when the immune response is
> inappropriate, excessive, or lacking. Allergies involve an immune
> response to a substance that, in the majority of people, the body
> perceives as harmless. Transplant rejection involves the destruction
> of transplanted tissues or organs and is a major complication of organ
> transplantation. Blood transfusion reaction is a problem caused by
> receiving blood. Autoimmune disorders (such as systemic lupus
> erythematosus and rheumatoid arthritis) occur when the immune system
> acts to destroy normal body tissues. Immunodeficiency disorders (such
> as inherited immunodeficiency and AIDS) occur when there is a failure
> in all or part of the immune system.
>
> Prevention Prevention may not be possible at this time for most
> autoimmune disorders.
>
> Update Date: 4/20/2005
>
> > Man Is A Herbivore!
>
> Born with incisors and canine teeth to rip apart, chew, and enjoy
> MEAT.
>
> ... P.E.T.A. -- People Eating Tasty Animals

>> Apr 3, 7:18 pm, "Fire Chief" <CALIFORNIA_CH...@PEOPLEPC.COM> wrote:


Transplant rejection IS an autoimmune disease.
They call it that because it has all the **hallmarks** OF an
autoimmune disease.
It is called GVHD - Graft Versus Host Disease.

AS .. I .. mentioned .. the GVHD is **indistinguishable** .. FROM ..
iron induced disease states .. PROVEN by the FACT the researchers
found CONTRARY to what they had BELIEVED was an autoimmune / GVHD ..
'reaction' was IN .. fact .. the iron excess and when treated
recovery ... happens.

Soooo .. ANY .. autoimmune disease state can and IS iron induced ..

Believe it .. or .. not ..

>>Transplant rejection involves the destruction
of transplanted tissues or organs and is a major complication of
organ
transplantation. <<

And coincidentally .. of course .. the inclusion OF iron binding drugs
have been found to be IMPRESSIVE .. in .. GVHD ..

Need a .. cite .. ?


Who loves ya.
Tom


Jesus Was A Vegetarian!
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Man Is A Herbivore!
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DEAD PEOPLE WALKING
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