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Fatality of 50% / iron overload
Medical News Article on Microbiology
Research from University of North Carolina provides new data about
microbiology
2007 JAN 10 -- Current study results from the report, "Capsular
polysaccharide phase variation in Vibrio vulnificus," have been
published. According to recent research from the United States,
"Commonly found in raw oysters, Vibrio vulnificus poses a serious
health threat to immunocompromised individuals and those with serum
iron overload, with a fatality rate of approximately 50%. An essential
virulence factor is its capsular polysaccharide (CPS), which is
responsible for a significant increase in virulence compared to
nonencapsulated strains."
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Medical News Article on Microbiology
Research from University of North Carolina provides new data about
microbiology
2007 JAN 10 -- Current study results from the report, "Capsular
polysaccharide phase variation in Vibrio vulnificus," have been
published. According to recent research from the United States,
"Commonly found in raw oysters, Vibrio vulnificus poses a serious
health threat to immunocompromised individuals and those with serum
iron overload, with a fatality rate of approximately 50%. An essential
virulence factor is its capsular polysaccharide (CPS), which is
responsible for a significant increase in virulence compared to
nonencapsulated strains."
Who loves ya.
Tom
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Re: Fatality of 50% / iron overload
"ironjustice" <teamtanner@hotmail . com > wrote in message
news:1169098221.620537.192720@m58g2000cwm.googlegroups . com ...
>
> Jesus Was A Vegetarian!
Any Jesus that was a vegetarian was NOT the Jesus of the Christian bible but
another Jesus and worshiped by pagans.
"ironjustice" <teamtanner@hotmail . com > wrote in message
news:1169098221.620537.192720@m58g2000cwm.googlegroups . com ...
>
> Jesus Was A Vegetarian!
Any Jesus that was a vegetarian was NOT the Jesus of the Christian bible but
another Jesus and worshiped by pagans.
Re: Fatality of 50% / iron overload
"Overload" is the key word. This article as do all others posted do not
support the "iron is the cause of all disease because people eat meat"
notion. That iron can be toxic in some specific cases is not new and
the poster did not discover it. As in all things we require or we will
die is moderation in consumption, including iron. That is what all iron
research hsows, it does not support in anyones mind but the poster that
it causes all disease. Low iron is know to cause mental confusion
however.
"Overload" is the key word. This article as do all others posted do not
support the "iron is the cause of all disease because people eat meat"
notion. That iron can be toxic in some specific cases is not new and
the poster did not discover it. As in all things we require or we will
die is moderation in consumption, including iron. That is what all iron
research hsows, it does not support in anyones mind but the poster that
it causes all disease. Low iron is know to cause mental confusion
however.
Re: Fatality of 50% / iron overload
<capmack@shipper . com > wrote in message
news:45af9c6c$0$258$1c4686b2@selenium.club.cc.cmu.edu...
> "Overload" is the key word. This article as do all others posted do not
> support the "iron is the cause of all disease because people eat meat"
> notion. That iron can be toxic in some specific cases is not new and
> the poster did not discover it. As in all things we require or we will
> die is moderation in consumption, including iron. That is what all iron
> research hsows, it does not support in anyones mind but the poster that
> it causes all disease. Low iron is know to cause mental confusion
> however.
"Low iron is know to cause mental confusion however."
Quite true (yes I got the humor also)
AND
I don't know how long it has been known (Decades) that high care should be
taken (only when REALLY defined) on giving children any iron supplements.
The same goes for seniors (men over 17 or women past menopause)
That doesn't exclude that many are prescribed a B complex including Folate
to make proper use of iron.
Minerals have a fast acting dichotomy. They are an absolute requirement but
can build.
Insufficient amounts of any can be disastrous and once a critical positive
amount is reached the negatives set in. Many many more people suffer from
insufficiency in certain (most) minerals than suffer from over exposure.
And, yes, there is no research that has shown that it is even POSSIBLE to
overload on iron with meats, even overloading on liver doesn't do it.
A point of curious interest: Any of the know negatives of liver are
countered with onions (Sufficiency can be debated). The favorite method of
serving liver is liver and onions.
<capmack@shipper . com > wrote in message
news:45af9c6c$0$258$1c4686b2@selenium.club.cc.cmu.edu...
> "Overload" is the key word. This article as do all others posted do not
> support the "iron is the cause of all disease because people eat meat"
> notion. That iron can be toxic in some specific cases is not new and
> the poster did not discover it. As in all things we require or we will
> die is moderation in consumption, including iron. That is what all iron
> research hsows, it does not support in anyones mind but the poster that
> it causes all disease. Low iron is know to cause mental confusion
> however.
"Low iron is know to cause mental confusion however."
Quite true (yes I got the humor also)
AND
I don't know how long it has been known (Decades) that high care should be
taken (only when REALLY defined) on giving children any iron supplements.
The same goes for seniors (men over 17 or women past menopause)
That doesn't exclude that many are prescribed a B complex including Folate
to make proper use of iron.
Minerals have a fast acting dichotomy. They are an absolute requirement but
can build.
Insufficient amounts of any can be disastrous and once a critical positive
amount is reached the negatives set in. Many many more people suffer from
insufficiency in certain (most) minerals than suffer from over exposure.
And, yes, there is no research that has shown that it is even POSSIBLE to
overload on iron with meats, even overloading on liver doesn't do it.
A point of curious interest: Any of the know negatives of liver are
countered with onions (Sufficiency can be debated). The favorite method of
serving liver is liver and onions.
Re: Fatality of 50% / iron overload
>>vernon wrote: And, yes, there is no research that has shown that it is even POSSIBLE to
overload on iron with meats<<
I posted the article ..
Didn't .. I .. ?
YOU must of missed .. it ..
You should actually .. know .. at least a .. little ABOUT something ..
BEFORE .. you open your trap ..
Of course the researchers who SAID it IS .. possible .. don't hold a ..
candle .. to YOUR .. expertise ..
Eh ..
* exchange.healthwell . com /news.cfm?news=1746
<<snip>>
"it is probable that a chronically high intake of heme iron can lead
to high body iron stores and thus may elevate the risk of diabetes,"
the authors said. "
<<snip>>
And of course the FACT you didn't ALREADY read the above .. means .. ?
You SPECIFICALLY come onto one of MY threads .. and SAY .. "there is no
evidence" .. when in FACT you .. have NO IDEA .. there .. IS ..
'evidence' .. but then again we have already established your ..
abilities .. TO .. decipher .. EVIDENCE ..
Who loves ya.
Tom
Jesus Was A Vegetarian!
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DEAD PEOPLE WALKING
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>>vernon wrote: And, yes, there is no research that has shown that it is even POSSIBLE to
overload on iron with meats<<
I posted the article ..
Didn't .. I .. ?
YOU must of missed .. it ..
You should actually .. know .. at least a .. little ABOUT something ..
BEFORE .. you open your trap ..
Of course the researchers who SAID it IS .. possible .. don't hold a ..
candle .. to YOUR .. expertise ..
Eh ..
* exchange.healthwell . com /news.cfm?news=1746
<<snip>>
"it is probable that a chronically high intake of heme iron can lead
to high body iron stores and thus may elevate the risk of diabetes,"
the authors said. "
<<snip>>
And of course the FACT you didn't ALREADY read the above .. means .. ?
You SPECIFICALLY come onto one of MY threads .. and SAY .. "there is no
evidence" .. when in FACT you .. have NO IDEA .. there .. IS ..
'evidence' .. but then again we have already established your ..
abilities .. TO .. decipher .. EVIDENCE ..
Who loves ya.
Tom
Jesus Was A Vegetarian!
* jesuswasavegetarian.7h . com
Man Is A Herbivore!
* tinyurl . com /a3cc3
DEAD PEOPLE WALKING
* tinyurl . com /zk9fk
