Kids On Drugs: Antidepressants And Ritalin (Generation Rx)

Kids On Drugs: Antidepressants And Ritalin (Generation Rx)

Did you know that most school shootings and acts of mass violence are
committed by people on antidepressants who showed no signs of violence
before being medicated? Go to
* badpsych . com /2008/04/22/kids-on-drugs-antidepressants-and-ritalin-generation-rx/
to view more

Re: Kids On Drugs: Antidepressants And Ritalin (Generation Rx)

Brittany <Brittany@badpsych . com > wrote:

--snip-- insane Scientology kook spew.

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* wikileaks.se/wiki/Scientology_threatens_Wikileaks_over_secret_cult_bibles

Re: Kids On Drugs: Antidepressants And Ritalin (Generation Rx)

On Apr 22, 9:48 pm, Brittany <Britt...@badpsych . com > wrote:
> Did you know that most school shootings and acts of mass violence are
> committed by people on antidepressants who showed no signs of violence
> before being medicated? Go to * badpsych . com /2008/04/22/kids-on-drugs-=
antidepressants-and-rita...
> to view more

This is understandable, as it could be a catalyst for a problem and by
jacking up the person's mood it will just make tendencies or thoughts
the people may have had a reality. That's my guess. I've taken
Ritalin before and I can't say that I was suicidal, but I do get two
types of suicidal thoughts; a happy, good thing I can die type of
thing which was onset by the Ritalin I believe, and of course the
grueling sadness, which I experienced months before. The former being
much more likely to carry out tendencies.

I still can't believe they put kids on that stuff... . it 's crack. :/

Re: Kids On Drugs: Antidepressants And Ritalin (Generation Rx)

On Apr 23, 3:32 am, Rainiest Day <Rainiest...@yahoo . com > wrote:
> On Apr 22, 9:48 pm, Brittany <Britt...@badpsych . com > wrote:
>
> > Did you know that most school shootings and acts of mass violence are
> > committed by people on antidepressants who showed no signs of violence
> > before being medicated? Go to * badpsych . com /2008/04/22/kids-on-drugs-antidepressants-and-rita...
> > to view more
>
> This is understandable, as it could be a catalyst for a problem and by
> jacking up the person's mood it will just make tendencies or thoughts
> the people may have had a reality. That's my guess. I've taken
> Ritalin before and I can't say that I was suicidal, but I do get two
> types of suicidal thoughts; a happy, good thing I can die type of
> thing which was onset by the Ritalin I believe, and of course the
> grueling sadness, which I experienced months before. The former being
> much more likely to carry out tendencies.
>
> I still can't believe they put kids on that stuff... . it 's crack. :/

hate them so much, addictive shit your parents warn you about the
dangers of drugs then you get stuffed them by a doctor how ironic

Re: Kids On Drugs: Antidepressants And Ritalin (Generation Rx)

Did you know that most people that die of high blood pressure were on
blood-pressure lowering drugs ??

These drugs must be abolished immediately !

;)



"Brittany" <Brittany@badpsych . com > wrote in message
news:8bb60b94-529d-4d7f-aecc-e03e07a34297@e53g2000hsa.googlegroups . com ...
> Did you know that most school shootings and acts of mass violence are
> committed by people on antidepressants who showed no signs of violence
> before being medicated? Go to
> * badpsych . com /2008/04/22/kids-on-drugs-antidepressants-and-ritalin-generation-rx/
> to view more

Re: Kids On Drugs: Antidepressants And Ritalin (Generation Rx)

On Apr 22, 7:48 pm, Brittany <Britt...@badpsych . com > wrote:
> Did you know that most school shootings and acts of mass violence are
> committed by people on antidepressants who showed no signs of violence
> before being medicated? Go to * badpsych . com /2008/04/22/kids-on-drugs-antidepressants-and-rita...
> to view more

Most??
You got some stats you can cite there?
-carl

Re: Kids On Drugs: Antidepressants And Ritalin (Generation Rx)

Brittany wrote:
> Did you know that most school shootings and acts of mass violence are
> committed by people on antidepressants who showed no signs of violence
> before being medicated? Go to
> * badpsych . com /2008/04/22/kids-on-drugs-antidepressants-and-ritalin-generation-rx/
> to view more

The actual facts aren't on your side, sorry. And no, I refuse to allow
myself to generate any traffic for your shitty amateurish blog, which
you see fit to spam across various newsgroups. Interesting SEO strategy
there. I wonder what your webhost would think of it...

Re: Kids On Drugs: Antidepressants And Ritalin (Generation Rx)

On Apr 23, 10:51 pm, Jeff L <jeffrey.lat...@gmail . com > wrote:
> Brittany wrote:
> > Did you know that most school shootings and acts of mass violence are
> > committed by people on antidepressants who showed no signs of violence
> > before being medicated? Go to
> > * badpsych . com /2008/04/22/kids-on-drugs-antidepressants-and-rita...
> > to view more
>
> The actual facts aren't on your side, sorry.

COOL you know this for a fact? tell us where you cite your facts from
then? also, the withdrawals of these medications can mess you up as
well as going on them. if this is your argument then perhaps people
that are suffering heroin withdrawals that create crime to obtain
their med should actually NEED to be medicated and its not heroins
fault at all that crime is committed its because they NEED to be
medicated!!! most heroin crime is not committed ON the drug, its
withdrawals when people need their fix.

Re: Kids On Drugs: Antidepressants And Ritalin (Generation Rx)

Pixie wrote:
> On Apr 23, 10:51 pm, Jeff L <jeffrey.lat...@gmail . com > wrote:
>> Brittany wrote:
>>> Did you know that most school shootings and acts of mass violence are
>>> committed by people on antidepressants who showed no signs of violence
>>> before being medicated? Go to
>>> * badpsych . com /2008/04/22/kids-on-drugs-antidepressants-and-rita...
>>> to view more
>> The actual facts aren't on your side, sorry.
>
> COOL you know this for a fact? tell us where you cite your facts from
> then? also, the withdrawals of these medications can mess you up as
> well as going on them. if this is your argument then perhaps people
> that are suffering heroin withdrawals that create crime to obtain
> their med should actually NEED to be medicated and its not heroins
> fault at all that crime is committed its because they NEED to be
> medicated!!! most heroin crime is not committed ON the drug, its
> withdrawals when people need their fix.

Here's the blunt truth, whether you like it or not: no medication can
force a person to act in a certain way. That is to say, this bullshit
about anti-depressants causing people to erupt in violence is, indeed,
total bullshit - because antidepressants are not capable of forcing a
behavior pattern.

To back up your claim that antidepressants give you an uncontrollable
urge to kill your family, you cite a few one-off cases. Yet you entirely
ignore any or all the variables that would be involved, and merely jump
to a conclusion based on an association fallacy. Your logic, or rather
lack thereof, follows like so:

1. Psychiatry is inherently evil
2. Drugs prescribed for psychiatric purposes are inherently evil
3. [insert random fifteen-minute celebrity here] killed [x person/number
of people]
4. [insert random fifteen-minute celebrity here] was on anti-depressants
at some point during his/her life
5. Therefore, anti-depressants caused him to act violent.
6. Ergo, all anti-depressants cause violent tendencies
7. Psychiatry is inherently evil
8. Drugs prescribed for psychiatric purposes are inherently evil
9. Ad nauseum circlejerkular argument

It's bad science, bad logic, and total bullshit, not matter how you
slice it.

Re: Kids On Drugs: Antidepressants And Ritalin (Generation Rx)

On Apr 24, 2:16 am, Jeff L <jeffrey.lat...@gmail . com > wrote:
> Pixie wrote:
> > On Apr 23, 10:51 pm, Jeff L <jeffrey.lat...@gmail . com > wrote:
> >> Brittany wrote:
> >>> Did you know that most school shootings and acts of mass violence are
> >>> committed by people on antidepressants who showed no signs of violence
> >>> before being medicated? Go to
> >>> * badpsych . com /2008/04/22/kids-on-drugs-antidepressants-and-rita...
> >>> to view more
> >> The actual facts aren't on your side, sorry.
>
> > COOL you know this for a fact? tell us where you cite your facts from
> > then? also, the withdrawals of these medications can mess you up as
> > well as going on them. if this is your argument then perhaps people
> > that are suffering heroin withdrawals that create crime to obtain
> > their med should actually NEED to be medicated and its not heroins
> > fault at all that crime is committed its because they NEED to be
> > medicated!!! most heroin crime is not committed ON the drug, its
> > withdrawals when people need their fix.


First of all, I asked for you to CITE YOUR EVIDENCE AND YOU CANT (or
didnt) so replying to my post ws completely irrelevant, would you like
to give me a recipe for cookies now too?

Second of all, you NEVER even responded to my example or defended your
position on it, so basically, your talking shit and not even
responding to my post even if hitting the reply button which is rather
curious.

> Here's the blunt truth, whether you like it or not: no medication can
> force a person to act in a certain way.

REALLY? And what about all those people on pot or LSD that thought
they could fly? presumably they always thought they could fly? Its all
just fucking chemicals prozac or pot or heroin.


>That is to say, this bullshit
> about anti-depressants causing people to erupt in violence is, indeed,
> total bullshit - because antidepressants are not capable of forcing a
> behavior pattern.

If they arent capable of changing BEHAVIOUR PATTERNS THEY WOULDNT BE
GIVEN OUT!! wake the hell up. if medication could not change your
behaviour pattern psychiatrists WOULDNT HAND THEM OUT THERE WOULD BE
NO POINT! YOU HAVE COMPLETELY ARGUED THAT YOUR POINT IS INVALID ALL BY
YOURSELF. sounds like something only a clown would do, or someone that
proves to themselves their point is invalid.

> To back up your claim that antidepressants give you an uncontrollable
> urge to kill your family, you cite a few one-off cases.

I never cited a case. (are you seeing things?) the only thing i
"cited" was heroin withdrawals. which is a phenomenon known by society
and police and the medical profession (not saying all junkies do this
however)

> Yet you entirely
> ignore any or all the variables that would be involved,

yeah, like maybe you were part of their family and you drove them to
it with your incessant nonsense.

> and merely jump
> to a conclusion based on an association fallacy.

where did i do that? please cite your words, do you even know who you
are responding to?

> Your logic, or rather
> lack thereof, follows like so:
>
> 1. Psychiatry is inherently evil

never said that, i said that psychiatrists are stupid and they have no
idea how the "new improved drugs" effect people.

geez, do you even READ WHAT IS WRITTEN? or do you make it up in your
brain all yourself?

> 2. Drugs prescribed for psychiatric purposes are inherently evil

I said that psychiatrists get people addicted to drugs, society
generally tends to think of addiction as bad, i also stated that they
dish out drugs willy nilly, not knowing what effects they will have on
a patient. or long term health. use yourself as a guinea pig thanks.

jesus you do make bizarre gross over generalisations not based on
things you've read dont you? perhaps you should get your eyesight
tested?


> 3. [insert random fifteen-minute celebrity here] killed [x person/number
> of people


never said anyone killed anyone, i have listed no such cases or claims
(were you even responding to my post? or wasnt this meant for me?)

> 4. [insert random fifteen-minute celebrity here] was on anti-depressants
> at some point during his/her life

i dont know jack shit about any celebrity, and i certainly never
stated what drugs they took, i am beginning to think this post wasnt
for me or you are deluded. (you should see a psychiatrist about
that!)

> 6. Ergo, all anti-depressants cause violent tendencies

I think you are rather haphazard with your over generalisations and
choice of words, i hope you arent an author! I never said ALL
antidepressants caused violent tendencies, in fact i never said they
made people violent in the first place, i said they fuck people up and
what fucked upness happens depends on the individuals chemistry.
gee, do you write science fiction too??

> 7. Psychiatry is inherently evil

have you been drinking? you are repeating yourself, i thought number 1
was that? oh you are talking shit again and going in a circle when, in
fact the circle was nipped in the bud long ago and you are just going
off in a tangent.

> 8. Drugs prescribed for psychiatric purposes are inherently evil
> 9. Ad nauseum circlejerkular argument
>
> It's bad science, bad logic, and total bullshit, not matter how you
> slice it.

I SAID CITE YOUR SOURCES YOU DO JACK SHIT except make up some random
shit, you have not cited sources, you just come up with some weird
overgeneralisation bullshit, citing wrong "logic arguments", and not
citing ANY SCIENTIFIC DATA TO SUPPORT your claim depsite claiming to
know FACTS.
do you masturbate like this often to yourself? it doesnt seem terribly
amusing.

However, I must give apologies for interrupting your wank as it didnt
seem directed at anything i had said. so, please carry on without me.

Re: Kids On Drugs: Antidepressants And Ritalin (Generation Rx)

Pixie wrote:
> i dont know jack shit about any celebrity, and i certainly never
> stated what drugs they took, i am beginning to think this post wasnt
> for me or you are deluded. (you should see a psychiatrist about
> that!)

You are one ignorant little shit, aren't you? This thread is in response
to spam by ignorant shill Brittany asserting that anti-depressants cause
people to develop violent tendencies. I'm merely demonstrating the false
logic of that position, which, incidentally, YOU ARE DEFENDING.

Regardless, the onus isn't on me to prove that her position is BULLSHIT,
it is on here to prove that it is valid. All she can and has been able
to do is link to a youtube clip purporting to be from a doctor and to
further spam her own blog in attempts to generate traffic for her
pathetic and ignorant website.

Re: Kids On Drugs: Antidepressants And Ritalin (Generation Rx)

On Apr 24, 8:40 am, Jeff L <jeffrey.lat...@gmail . com > wrote:
> Pixie wrote:
> > i dont know jack shit about any celebrity, and i certainly never
> > stated what drugs they took, i am beginning to think this post wasnt
> > for me or you are deluded. (you should see a psychiatrist about
> > that!)
>
> You are one ignorant little shit, aren't you? This thread is in response
> to spam by ignorant shill Brittany asserting that anti-depressants cause
> people to develop violent tendencies.

hahaha not as ignorant as you, it doesnt take too much of a brain cell
to figure out if one is going to reply to a post, you hit the reply
button under the post you are RESPONDING TO! geez, maybe you should
review how to use ngs!

> I'm merely demonstrating the false
> logic of that position, which, incidentally, YOU ARE DEFENDING.

and you never cited any evidence that this assertion is false when i
asked you to, therefore you are not defending your position at all.
anyway, there is no "logic of her position" she was citing evidence,
something i havent seen you do.

> Regardless, the onus isn't on me to prove that her position is BULLSHIT,

it sure is when you are the one that claims that its false and
bullshit, dumbass. ever hear of defending the assertions you make...
or isnt scientific principle or debate your forte?

> it is on here to prove that it is valid.

she cited evidence, you didnt. therefore you have to supply evidence
that her evidence is false through scientific studies of her theory,
um, which you didnt provide.

>All she can and has been able
> to do is link to a youtube clip purporting to be from a doctor

well, thats one piece of evidence you didnt supply, isnt it?

>and to
> further spam her own blog in attempts to generate traffic for her
> pathetic and ignorant website.

thats marketing babe, suck it up. surely you have seen marketing you
dont like before havent you? or do you suck up and believe every
pharmaceutical advertising you see? (wait a second, of course you do
if you are american...)

Re: Kids On Drugs: Antidepressants And Ritalin (Generation Rx)

and to quote a response by another poster to your answer:

> >Here's the blunt truth, whether you like it or not: no medication can
> >force a person to act in a certain way. That is to say, this bullshit
> >about anti-depressants causing people to erupt in violence is, indeed,
> >total bullshit - because antidepressants are not capable of forcing a
> >behavior pattern.
>
> stating that mind altering substances are not capable of altering the
> mind, which controls behaviour, is quite unreasonable.

Re: Kids On Drugs: Antidepressants And Ritalin (Generation Rx)

Pixie wrote:
> On Apr 24, 8:40 am, Jeff L <jeffrey.lat...@gmail . com > wrote:
> hahaha not as ignorant as you, it doesnt take too much of a brain cell
> to figure out if one is going to reply to a post, you hit the reply
> button under the post you are RESPONDING TO! geez, maybe you should
> review how to use ngs!

No, I was responding to YOUR defense of the ignorant spammer who
produced this thread. Do you or do you not assert that antidepressants
cause violent behavior?

Pixie wrote:
> and you never cited any evidence that this assertion is false when i
> asked you to, therefore you are not defending your position at all.
> anyway, there is no "logic of her position" she was citing evidence,
> something i havent seen you do.

Demonstrating false logic doesn't require one to "produce evidence".

Pixie wrote:
> she cited evidence, you didnt. therefore you have to supply evidence
> that her evidence is false through scientific studies of her theory,
> um, which you didnt provide.

The evidence she "cited" was her blog.

Pixie wrote:
> well, thats one piece of evidence you didnt supply, isnt it?

Invalid. A youtube clip purporting to be from a doctor is not a reliable
source. If she wants to prove her point, she needs to point to published
medical journals and peer-reviewed studies. Has she done that? No.
Hence, bullshit.

Pixie wrote:
> thats marketing babe, suck it up. surely you have seen marketing you
> dont like before havent you?

No, this is called "spam", and I'm quite sure her webhost would be very
interested in her usenet activities...

Re: Kids On Drugs: Antidepressants And Ritalin (Generation Rx)

Pixie wrote:
> On Apr 24, 8:40 am, Jeff L <jeffrey.lat...@gmail . com > wrote:
> hahaha not as ignorant as you, it doesnt take too much of a brain cell
> to figure out if one is going to reply to a post, you hit the reply
> button under the post you are RESPONDING TO! geez, maybe you should
> review how to use ngs!

No, I was responding to YOUR defense of the ignorant spammer who
produced this thread. Do you or do you not assert that antidepressants
cause violent behavior?

Pixie wrote:
> and you never cited any evidence that this assertion is false when i
> asked you to, therefore you are not defending your position at all.
> anyway, there is no "logic of her position" she was citing evidence,
> something i havent seen you do.

Demonstrating false logic doesn't require one to "produce evidence".

Pixie wrote:
> she cited evidence, you didnt. therefore you have to supply evidence
> that her evidence is false through scientific studies of her theory,
> um, which you didnt provide.

The evidence she "cited" was her blog.

Pixie wrote:
> well, thats one piece of evidence you didnt supply, isnt it?

Invalid. A youtube clip purporting to be from a doctor is not a reliable
source. If she wants to prove her point, she needs to point to published
medical journals and peer-reviewed studies. Has she done that? No.
Hence, bullshit.

Pixie wrote:
> thats marketing babe, suck it up. surely you have seen marketing you
> dont like before havent you?

No, this is called "spam", and I'm quite sure her webhost would be very
interested in her usenet activities...