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APA admits "no 'chemical imbalances' in Psychiatry"

Reply from: Psst
Date: 11 Feb 2007, 19:35
APA admits "no 'chemical imbalances' in Psychiatry"

http :// groups.msn,com /psychbusters
Decoding Psychiatric Propaganda

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http :// www .hc2d.co.uk/content.php?contentId45
Mental Health Bill 'must be amended'
Healthcare Today Magazine

http :// www .thepeoplesvoice.org/cgi-bin/blogs/voices.php/2007/02/02/p14187
Is Psychiatry For Sale?
Joanna Moncrieff

http :// pn.psychiatryonline.org/cgi/content/full/40/16/3
Big Pharma and American Psychiatry: The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly
Steven S. Sharfstein, M.D., President, American Psychiatric
Association

http :// www .dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/health/healthmain.html?in article idC4241&in page id74
Why you should never trust new wonder drugs
Daily Mail

http :// www .opednews,com /articles/genera evelyn p 070205 nobody buys lilly s .htm
Nobody Buys Lilly's Innocence Routine About Zyprexa
Evelyn Pringle

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"Depression is a common medical illness." Eli Lilly, manufacturer of
Prozac, from prozac,com

"Do you a) Often have an overwhelming and persistent fear when in
social or performance situations? b) Find yourself avoiding these
situations so that you don't experience these feelings? If so, you may
have a very common and treatable medical condition called social
anxiety disorder." GlaxoSmithKline, manufacturer of Paxil/Seroxat,
from paxilcr,com

"Bipolar Disorder, also known as manic-depressive illness, is a
serious medical illness." The National Institute of Mental Health
(NIMH), from nimh.nih.gov

"For a disease to exist there must be a tangible, objective physical
abnormality that can be determined by a test such as, but not limited
to, blood or urine test, X-Ray, brain scan or biopsy. All reputable
doctors would agree: No physical abnormality, no disease. In
psychiatry, no test or brain scan exists to prove that a 'mental
disorder' is a physical disease. Disingenuous comparisons between
physical and mental illness and medicine are simply part of
psychiatry's orchestrated but fraudulent public relations and
marketing campaign." Dr. Fred Baughman, Neurologist.

"We do not have a clean cut lab test." Steven Sharfstein, President of
the American Psychiatric Association, Today Show, June 27, 2005.

"Chemical imbalance: it's a shorthand term really, it's probably drug
industry derived. We don't have tests because to do it, you'd probably
have to take a chunk of brain out of someone-not a good idea." Mark
Graff, Chairman of the American Psychiatric Association Committee of
Public Affairs.

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http :// groups.msn,com /psychbusters
Decoding Psychiatric Propaganda


Reply from: William Morris
Date: 11 Feb 2007, 20:20
Re: APA admits "no 'chemical imbalances' in Psychiatry"

On 2/11/07 12:35 PM, in article
1171218922.043700.196390@k78g2000cwa.googlegroups,com , "Psst"
<lowcarbpizza@yahoo,com > wrote:

> "Chemical imbalance: it's a shorthand term really, it's probably drug
> industry derived. We don't have tests because to do it, you'd probably
> have to take a chunk of brain out of someone-not a good idea." Mark
> Graff, Chairman of the American Psychiatric Association Committee of
> Public Affairs.

Is this the statement that you assert claims there are no chemical
imbalances in psychiatry? If so, you should know that it doesn't really say
that, does it? It just implies that the term is a very brief and simple
description of a much more involved problem.




William F. Morris RN, BSN
--

"The quality and quantity of nursing care delivered is influenced by the
nurse's perception of the patient."
                                   Joyce Travelbee



Reply from: Lawson English
Date: 11 Feb 2007, 22:20
Re: APA admits "no 'chemical imbalances' in Psychiatry"

William Morris wrote:
> On 2/11/07 12:35 PM, in article
> 1171218922.043700.196390@k78g2000cwa.googlegroups,com , "Psst"
> <lowcarbpizza@yahoo,com > wrote:
>
>> "Chemical imbalance: it's a shorthand term really, it's probably drug
>> industry derived. We don't have tests because to do it, you'd probably
>> have to take a chunk of brain out of someone-not a good idea." Mark
>> Graff, Chairman of the American Psychiatric Association Committee of
>> Public Affairs.
>
> Is this the statement that you assert claims there are no chemical
> imbalances in psychiatry? If so, you should know that it doesn't really say
> that, does it? It just implies that the term is a very brief and simple
> description of a much more involved problem.
>
>

Or more than one problem.

Reply from: Mark Probert
Date: 12 Feb 2007, 15:51
Re: APA admits "no 'chemical imbalances' in Psychiatry"

William Morris wrote:
> On 2/11/07 12:35 PM, in article
> 1171218922.043700.196390@k78g2000cwa.googlegroups,com , "Psst"
> <lowcarbpizza@yahoo,com > wrote:
>
>> "Chemical imbalance: it's a shorthand term really, it's probably drug
>> industry derived. We don't have tests because to do it, you'd probably
>> have to take a chunk of brain out of someone-not a good idea." Mark
>> Graff, Chairman of the American Psychiatric Association Committee of
>> Public Affairs.
>
> Is this the statement that you assert claims there are no chemical
> imbalances in psychiatry? If so, you should know that it doesn't really say
> that, does it? It just implies that the term is a very brief and simple
> description of a much more involved problem.
>
>
>
>
> William F. Morris RN, BSN

The OP is from Psychbusters, a front group for the Kriminal Kult of
$cientology.




Reply from: Jan Drew
Date: 13 Feb 2007, 05:35
Re: APA admits "no 'chemical imbalances' in Psychiatry"


"Mark Probert" <markprobert@lumbercartel,com > wrote in message
news:6a%zh.1669$Zp3.1310@trndny04...
> William Morris wrote:
>> On 2/11/07 12:35 PM, in article
>> 1171218922.043700.196390@k78g2000cwa.googlegroups,com , "Psst"
>> <lowcarbpizza@yahoo,com > wrote:
>>
>>> "Chemical imbalance: it's a shorthand term really, it's probably drug
>>> industry derived. We don't have tests because to do it, you'd probably
>>> have to take a chunk of brain out of someone-not a good idea." Mark
>>> Graff, Chairman of the American Psychiatric Association Committee of
>>> Public Affairs.
>>
>> Is this the statement that you assert claims there are no chemical
>> imbalances in psychiatry? If so, you should know that it doesn't really
>> say
>> that, does it? It just implies that the term is a very brief and simple
>> description of a much more involved problem.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> William F. Morris RN, BSN
>
> The OP is from Psychbusters, a front group for the Kriminal Kult of
> $cientology.
>
>
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Reply from: Peter Bowditch
Date: 12 Feb 2007, 22:01
Re: APA admits "no 'chemical imbalances' in Psychiatry"

William Morris <wmorris@neb.rr,com > wrote:

>On 2/11/07 12:35 PM, in article
>1171218922.043700.196390@k78g2000cwa.googlegroups,com , "Psst"
><lowcarbpizza@yahoo,com > wrote:
>
>> "Chemical imbalance: it's a shorthand term really, it's probably drug
>> industry derived. We don't have tests because to do it, you'd probably
>> have to take a chunk of brain out of someone-not a good idea." Mark
>> Graff, Chairman of the American Psychiatric Association Committee of
>> Public Affairs.
>
>Is this the statement that you assert claims there are no chemical
>imbalances in psychiatry? If so, you should know that it doesn't really say
>that, does it? It just implies that the term is a very brief and simple
>description of a much more involved problem.

It is the job of Scientologists to deride psychiatry, not to tell the
truth about it, so it comes as no surprise that one of them would use
a quote like this. What is surprising is that Scientologists are
supposed to be very concerned about what words mean yet they exploit
even the most faint form of ambiguity.

>
>
>
>
>William F. Morris RN, BSN
--
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Reply from: Ronnie Marks
Date: 12 Feb 2007, 23:29
Re: APA admits "no 'chemical imbalances' in Psychiatry"

Sometime near Mon, 12 Feb 2007 21:01:01 GMT, Peter Bowditch
<myfirstname@ratbags,com > may have written:

>William Morris <wmorris@neb.rr,com > wrote:
>
>>On 2/11/07 12:35 PM, in article
>>1171218922.043700.196390@k78g2000cwa.googlegroups,com , "Psst"
>><lowcarbpizza@yahoo,com > wrote:
>>
>>> "Chemical imbalance: it's a shorthand term really, it's probably drug
>>> industry derived. We don't have tests because to do it, you'd probably
>>> have to take a chunk of brain out of someone-not a good idea." Mark
>>> Graff, Chairman of the American Psychiatric Association Committee of
>>> Public Affairs.
>>
>>Is this the statement that you assert claims there are no chemical
>>imbalances in psychiatry? If so, you should know that it doesn't really say
>>that, does it? It just implies that the term is a very brief and simple
>>description of a much more involved problem.
>
>It is the job of Scientologists to deride psychiatry, not to tell the
>truth about it, so it comes as no surprise that one of them would use
>a quote like this. What is surprising is that Scientologists are
>supposed to be very concerned about what words mean yet they exploit
>even the most faint form of ambiguity.

The real shame is that people who really care about the abuse and are working
for some reforms are painted with the same brush as the kult kooks, making it
much harder to even be listened to.

--
Truth is something you stumble into when you think you're going some place else.
- Jerry Garcia

Reply from: Mark Probert
Date: 12 Feb 2007, 23:51
Re: APA admits "no 'chemical imbalances' in Psychiatry"

Ronnie Marks wrote:
> Sometime near Mon, 12 Feb 2007 21:01:01 GMT, Peter Bowditch
> <myfirstname@ratbags,com > may have written:
>
>> William Morris <wmorris@neb.rr,com > wrote:
>>
>>> On 2/11/07 12:35 PM, in article
>>> 1171218922.043700.196390@k78g2000cwa.googlegroups,com , "Psst"
>>> <lowcarbpizza@yahoo,com > wrote:
>>>
>>>> "Chemical imbalance: it's a shorthand term really, it's probably drug
>>>> industry derived. We don't have tests because to do it, you'd probably
>>>> have to take a chunk of brain out of someone-not a good idea." Mark
>>>> Graff, Chairman of the American Psychiatric Association Committee of
>>>> Public Affairs.
>>> Is this the statement that you assert claims there are no chemical
>>> imbalances in psychiatry? If so, you should know that it doesn't really say
>>> that, does it? It just implies that the term is a very brief and simple
>>> description of a much more involved problem.
>> It is the job of Scientologists to deride psychiatry, not to tell the
>> truth about it, so it comes as no surprise that one of them would use
>> a quote like this. What is surprising is that Scientologists are
>> supposed to be very concerned about what words mean yet they exploit
>> even the most faint form of ambiguity.
>
> The real shame is that people who really care about the abuse and are working
> for some reforms are painted with the same brush as the kult kooks, making it
> much harder to even be listened to.

That is a superior point. The kult kooks are so vociferous that they
drown out those looking to make the system better for those who need it.

Reply from: Jan Drew
Date: 13 Feb 2007, 05:36
Re: APA admits "no 'chemical imbalances' in Psychiatry"


"Peter Bowditch" <myfirstname@ratbags,com > wrote in message
news:c6l1t29ooccqn0lh3276scuqcnvqf0kddr@4ax,com ...
> William Morris <wmorris@neb.rr,com > wrote:
>
>>On 2/11/07 12:35 PM, in article
>>1171218922.043700.196390@k78g2000cwa.googlegroups,com , "Psst"
>><lowcarbpizza@yahoo,com > wrote:
>>
>>> "Chemical imbalance: it's a shorthand term really, it's probably drug
>>> industry derived. We don't have tests because to do it, you'd probably
>>> have to take a chunk of brain out of someone-not a good idea." Mark
>>> Graff, Chairman of the American Psychiatric Association Committee of
>>> Public Affairs.
>>
>>Is this the statement that you assert claims there are no chemical
>>imbalances in psychiatry? If so, you should know that it doesn't really
>>say
>>that, does it? It just implies that the term is a very brief and simple
>>description of a much more involved problem.
>
Scientologists

See how the *gang* sticks together.
>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>William F. Morris RN, BSN
> --
> Peter Bowditch






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