The Mind Is Physical! Just Admit It!

The Mind Is Physical! Just Admit It!

Hi:

At the end of last October I started a topic on psychogenic deafness
in alt.support.hearing-loss

In that thread, I was stressing that all psychogenic disoders
ultimately have a physical cause. Most of them, especially Artis
[artis5 at farscape dot com], showed extreme anger and disagreement to
me. Most of them insisted that psychogenic disorders are caused by the
mind and that the mind is a purely non-physical entity seperate from
even the brain. What morons!

Posts by Artis:

http :// groups.google,com /groups?as q=&num&scoring=d&hl=en&as epq=&as oq=&as eq=&as ugroup=&as usubject=&as uauthors=artis5%40farscape,com &lr=&as drrb=q&as qdr=&as mind=1&as minm=1&as miny81&as maxd&as maxm=7&as maxy 06&safe=off

"Kol Isha" <kol isha at hotmail dot com> disagrees with me on anything/
everything because he/she/it has a personal vendatta against me for
what reason I don't know and don't care.

Posts by Kol Isha:

http :// groups.google,com /groups?as q=&num&scoring=d&hl=en&as epq=&as oq=&as eq=&as ugroup=&as usubject=&as uauthors=kol isha%40hotmail,com &lr=&as drrb=q&as qdr=&as mind=1&as minm=1&as miny81&as maxd&as maxm=7&as maxy 06&safe=off

Steve B (pretty good at every dot thing) is one of the few realistic
responders who have the ability to distinguish fact from fiction.

Here is the thread:

http :// groups.google,com /group/alt.support.hearing-loss/browse frm/thread/d9e1a925945dbd66?scoring=d&q=glucegen1+psychogenic&hl=en#

Note: focus on the word "psychogenic" highlighted in blue -- well,
blue when I look at it through my browser.

Kai Schreiber makes an excellent point in
http :// en.allexperts,com /q/Neuroscience-2933/mechanism-behind-psychogenic-coma.htm
:

"psychological distress is just a very complex organic problem, that
as of yet we have no way of describing yet."

Quote from http :// www .emedicine,com /emerg/topic112.htm :

"Involvement of the corticofugal inhibitory system has been
suggested."

So the mind is made of brain. Brain is made of physical matter. Hence
the mind is made of physical matter. Those who disagree need an
education.

So keep repeating the hardcore scientifically-proven fact:

The mind is physical! The mind is physical! The mind is physical! The
mind is physical! The mind is physical! The mind is physical! The mind
is physical! The mind is physical! The mind is physical! The mind is
physical! The mind is physical! The mind is physical! The mind is
physical! The mind is physical! The mind is physical! The mind is
physical! The mind is physical! The mind is physical! The mind is
physical! The mind is physical! The mind is physical! The mind is
physical! The mind is physical! The mind is physical! The mind is
physical! The mind is physical! The mind is physical! The mind is
physical! The mind is physical! The mind is physical! The mind is
physical! The mind is physical! The mind is physical! The mind is
physical! The mind is physical! The mind is physical! The mind is
physical! The mind is physical! The mind is physical! The mind is
physical! The mind is physical! The mind is physical! The mind is
physical! The mind is physical! The mind is physical! The mind is
physical! The mind is physical! The mind is physical! The mind is
physical! The mind is physical! The mind is physical! The mind is
physical! The mind is physical! The mind is physical! The mind is
physical!

To suggest otherwise is simply talking from one's kakaa hole.

Any understanding, cooperation, and assistance is greatly appreciated.


Thanks,

Radium

P.S.

Crossposted to alt.support.disorders.neurological because all ^psycho^-
genic disorders are -- in all reality -- *neuro*-genic.

Crossposted to rec.music.makers.guitar.acoustic to get the attention
of the notorius science-hating Kol Isha, since he/she/it frequents
that NG.

Re: The Mind Is Physical! Just Admit It!

On Feb 19, 11:44 pm, "Radium" <gluceg...@excite,com > wrote:
> Hi:
>
> At the end of last October I started a topic on psychogenic deafness
> in alt.support.hearing-loss
>
> In that thread, I was stressing that all psychogenic disoders
> ultimately have a physical cause. Most of them, especially Artis
> [artis5 at farscape dot com], showed extreme anger and disagreement to
> me. Most of them insisted that psychogenic disorders are caused by the
> mind and that the mind is a purely non-physical entity seperate from
> even the brain. What morons!
>
> Posts by Artis:
>
> http :// groups.google,com /groups?as q=&num&scoring=d&hl=en&as epq=&...
>
> "Kol Isha" <kol isha at hotmail dot com> disagrees with me on anything/
> everything because he/she/it has a personal vendatta against me for
> what reason I don't know and don't care.
>
> Posts by Kol Isha:
>
> http :// groups.google,com /groups?as q=&num&scoring=d&hl=en&as epq=&...
>
> Steve B (pretty good at every dot thing) is one of the few realistic
> responders who have the ability to distinguish fact from fiction.
>
> Here is the thread:
>
> http :// groups.google,com /group/alt.support.hearing-loss/browse frm/th...
>
> Note: focus on the word "psychogenic" highlighted in blue -- well,
> blue when I look at it through my browser.
>
> Kai Schreiber makes an excellent point in http :// en.allexperts,com /q/Neuroscience-2933/mechanism-behind-psychog...
> :
>
> "psychological distress is just a very complex organic problem, that
> as of yet we have no way of describing yet."
>
> Quote from http :// www .emedicine,com /emerg/topic112.htm:
>
> "Involvement of the corticofugal inhibitory system has been
> suggested."
>
> So the mind is made of brain. Brain is made of physical matter. Hence
> the mind is made of physical matter. Those who disagree need an
> education.
>
> So keep repeating the hardcore scientifically-proven fact:
>
> The mind is physical! The mind is physical! The mind is physical! The
> mind is physical! The mind is physical! The mind is physical! The mind
> is physical! The mind is physical! The mind is physical! The mind is
> physical! The mind is physical! The mind is physical! The mind is
> physical! The mind is physical! The mind is physical! The mind is
> physical! The mind is physical! The mind is physical! The mind is
> physical! The mind is physical! The mind is physical! The mind is
> physical! The mind is physical! The mind is physical! The mind is
> physical! The mind is physical! The mind is physical! The mind is
> physical! The mind is physical! The mind is physical! The mind is
> physical! The mind is physical! The mind is physical! The mind is
> physical! The mind is physical! The mind is physical! The mind is
> physical! The mind is physical! The mind is physical! The mind is
> physical! The mind is physical! The mind is physical! The mind is
> physical! The mind is physical! The mind is physical! The mind is
> physical! The mind is physical! The mind is physical! The mind is
> physical! The mind is physical! The mind is physical! The mind is
> physical! The mind is physical! The mind is physical! The mind is
> physical!
>
> To suggest otherwise is simply talking from one's kakaa hole.
>
> Any understanding, cooperation, and assistance is greatly appreciated.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Radium
>
> P.S.
>
> Crossposted to alt.support.disorders.neurological because all ^psycho^-
> genic disorders are -- in all reality -- *neuro*-genic.
>
> Crossposted to rec.music.makers.guitar.acoustic to get the attention
> of the notorius science-hating Kol Isha, since he/she/it frequents
> that NG.

Dear Radium,

I think your level of radium exposure has reached a critical point.

By the way, would you happen to know the thickness of a Fender medium
pick? If you do, I'll take your side in the argument.

Do you favor mahogany or rosewood?


Norman (A Mind Is A terrible Thing) Draper

Re: The Mind Is Physical! Just Admit It!

Norman Draper wrote:

> On Feb 19, 11:44 pm, "Radium" <gluceg...@excite,com > wrote:
>
>>Hi:
>>
>>At the end of last October I started a topic on psychogenic deafness
>>in alt.support.hearing-loss
>>
>>In that thread, I was stressing that all psychogenic disoders
>>ultimately have a physical cause. Most of them, especially Artis
>>[artis5_at_farscape_dot_com], showed extreme anger and disagreement to
>>me. Most of them insisted that psychogenic disorders are caused by the
>>mind and that the mind is a purely non-physical entity seperate from
>>even the brain. What morons!
>>
>>Posts by Artis:
>>
>> http :// groups.google,com /groups?as_q=&num=10&scoring=d&hl=en&as_epq=&...
>>
>>"Kol_Isha" <kol_isha_at_hotmail_dot_com> disagrees with me on anything/
>>everything because he/she/it has a personal vendatta against me for
>>what reason I don't know and don't care.
>>
>>Posts by Kol_Isha:
>>
>> http :// groups.google,com /groups?as_q=&num=10&scoring=d&hl=en&as_epq=&...
>>
>>Steve B (pretty_good_at_every_dot_thing) is one of the few realistic
>>responders who have the ability to distinguish fact from fiction.
>>
>>Here is the thread:
>>
>> http :// groups.google,com /group/alt.support.hearing-loss/browse_frm/th...
>>
>>Note: focus on the word "psychogenic" highlighted in blue -- well,
>>blue when I look at it through my browser.
>>
>>Kai Schreiber makes an excellent point in http :// en.allexperts,com /q/Neuroscience-2933/mechanism-behind-psychog...
>>:
>>
>>"psychological distress is just a very complex organic problem, that
>>as of yet we have no way of describing yet."
>>
>>Quote from http :// www .emedicine,com /emerg/topic112.htm:
>>
>>"Involvement of the corticofugal inhibitory system has been
>>suggested."
>>
>>So the mind is made of brain. Brain is made of physical matter. Hence
>>the mind is made of physical matter. Those who disagree need an
>>education.
>>
>>So keep repeating the hardcore scientifically-proven fact:
>>
>>The mind is physical! The mind is physical! The mind is physical! The
>>mind is physical! The mind is physical! The mind is physical! The mind
>>is physical! The mind is physical! The mind is physical! The mind is
>>physical! The mind is physical! The mind is physical! The mind is
>>physical! The mind is physical! The mind is physical! The mind is
>>physical! The mind is physical! The mind is physical! The mind is
>>physical! The mind is physical! The mind is physical! The mind is
>>physical! The mind is physical! The mind is physical! The mind is
>>physical! The mind is physical! The mind is physical! The mind is
>>physical! The mind is physical! The mind is physical! The mind is
>>physical! The mind is physical! The mind is physical! The mind is
>>physical! The mind is physical! The mind is physical! The mind is
>>physical! The mind is physical! The mind is physical! The mind is
>>physical! The mind is physical! The mind is physical! The mind is
>>physical! The mind is physical! The mind is physical! The mind is
>>physical! The mind is physical! The mind is physical! The mind is
>>physical! The mind is physical! The mind is physical! The mind is
>>physical! The mind is physical! The mind is physical! The mind is
>>physical!
>>
>>To suggest otherwise is simply talking from one's kakaa hole.
>>
>>Any understanding, cooperation, and assistance is greatly appreciated.
>>
>>Thanks,
>>
>>Radium
>>
>>P.S.
>>
>>Crossposted to alt.support.disorders.neurological because all ^psycho^-
>>genic disorders are -- in all reality -- *neuro*-genic.
>>
>>Crossposted to rec.music.makers.guitar.acoustic to get the attention
>>of the notorius science-hating Kol_Isha, since he/she/it frequents
>>that NG.
>
>
> Dear Radium,
>
> I think your level of radium exposure has reached a critical point.
>
> By the way, would you happen to know the thickness of a Fender medium
> pick? If you do, I'll take your side in the argument.
>
> Do you favor mahogany or rosewood?
>
>
> Norman (A Mind Is A terrible Thing) Draper
>

I lost mine years ago, or it left me for a more comfortable residence.

MJRB

I use the little Fender teardrop picks in heavy on the rare occasions
that I use a pick.

I guess the mediums would be a little thinner.

HTH

MJRB

Re: The Mind Is Physical! Just Admit It!

Hope this works. Posting for Ken Cashion...

------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------


Folks, I am having trouble with my newsgroup at charter,net and I have
asked Bill Chandler to be my transponder for a little bit.


This is a message I sent immediately to Radium's silly post but in
reply to Norm's comments, it didn't appear in a timely manner and some
of this would have subsequently been posted to the "pick" topic.




Mr. Draper posted --


>By the way, would you happen to know the thickness of a Fender medium
>pick? If you do, I'll take your side in the argument.


I know! I know! I know about guitar plectrums!


Fender medium...0.027". (Fender thins are 0.016" and the Fender
heavies are 0.035"...yes, celluloid.) That is what mine
measured...nominally, with digital micrometer.


And Mike, the familiar heart shape is really the #351 and the shape
sells the most and goes back to Luigi D'Andrea's original hand mallet
die of 1928. It has remained unchanged.


Steel string guitars of the1920s were played with fingers and if a
fellow went in a music store and asked for guitar picks, he would be
shown finger picks.


Nicolas Lucanese, from Newark, NJ, used a flat pick playing his tenor
banjo. Banjos and mandolins had flat picks. He started using the
flat pick on his guitar and in early 1920 made the first recording of
someone playing guitar solos with a flat pick. (Pathe label.) One
song was "Pickin' the Guitar."


By 1925, his style of flat picking the guitar had grown so popular
that he signed with Brunswick and released several hits with the big
names of Gene Austin, Johnny Marvin, Blossom Seeley, and a short while
later with Rudy Vallee, Ruth Etting, and Bing Crosby.


In 1929, he landed a role in the first all-talkie Technicolor movie,
Warner Brothers' "Gold Diggers of Broadway." He was being billed by
now as Nick Lucas. And right there in front of a camera, while
beauties hopped around and clogged on artificial flowers, Lucas stood
there front and center and flat picked and sang, "Tip Toe Through The
Tulips." (He also did a better song, "Painting The Clouds With
Sunshine" which I enjoy doing on the uke.)


Fellows started looking for the "right" pick and switching over to the
Lucas-style of playing. At the same time, Eddie Lang and Roy Smeck
was pushing flat picking on guitars.


After Gibson brought out the Nick Lucas Guitar in the early 1930s, Joe
Nicomede, friend of Luigi D'Andrea, worked out a deal with Lucas.
Nicomede was a music teacher in Altoona, PA, and he would pay Lucas
royalties for Lucases name on a guitar pick. Lucas got with Luigi and
the shape they chose was what Lucas had worked out for himself.


This first die got the number 351, and thus THE guitar pick was born
and was the first designed and advertised for the guitar. They sold
for a dime. They were displayed 24 to a display card. (Big
collectable, now.)


Competition arose immediately and the 351 shape appeared on similar
cards but this time with Nick Manoloff's name.


There were other near identical displays with the 351 shape, but in
one case Gene Autry's name was on the card, and though these were
listed in the 1941 Sears catalog, they were still known on the street
as the "Lucas" pick.


Fender was pushing the Manoloff picks in the 1950s but there was some
foul-up at a trade show and so Fender would have some picks to
display, the reps from the D'Andrea booth provided them picks at no
cost.


Because of this gesture, Fender dropped the Manoloff association, and
started getting their picks from D'Andrea, thus, the most common pick
today is the "Fender pick."


But we have to ask their thickness and don't know that it is the old
Nick Lucas #351...that played, "Tip Toe Through The Tulips."


Ken, who thinks all this is right..his physical mind forgets stuff
sometimes. (John Pearse can add to this, he was there the whole time.
<g>)
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Re: The Mind Is Physical! Just Admit It!


> And Mike, the familiar heart shape is really the #351 and the shape
> sells the most and goes back to Luigi D'Andrea's original hand mallet
> die of 1928. It has remained unchanged.

> Ken, who thinks all this is right..his physical mind forgets stuff
> sometimes. (John Pearse can add to this, he was there the whole time.
> <g>)

Thanks Bill.

And Ken.

My local shops are not keeping the 351 any more, luckily I still have a
few round the house.

Those damn great triangular thing have taken over.

MJRB

Re: The Mind Is Physical! Just Admit It!

Norman Draper said:

> On Feb 19, 11:44 pm, "Radium" <gluceg...@excite,com > wrote:
>> Hi:
>>
>> At the end of last October I started a topic on psychogenic deafness
>> in alt.support.hearing-loss
>>
>> In that thread, I was stressing that all psychogenic disoders
>> ultimately have a physical cause. Most of them, especially Artis
>> [artis5_at_farscape_dot_com], showed extreme anger and disagreement to
>> me. Most of them insisted that psychogenic disorders are caused by the
>> mind and that the mind is a purely non-physical entity seperate from
>> even the brain. What morons!
>>
>> Posts by Artis:
>>
>> http :// groups.google,com /groups?as_q=&num=10&scoring=d&hl=en&as_epq=&...
>>
>> "Kol_Isha" <kol_isha_at_hotmail_dot_com> disagrees with me on anything/
>> everything because he/she/it has a personal vendatta against me for
>> what reason I don't know and don't care.
>>
>> Posts by Kol_Isha:
>>
>> http :// groups.google,com /groups?as_q=&num=10&scoring=d&hl=en&as_epq=&...
>>
>> Steve B (pretty_good_at_every_dot_thing) is one of the few realistic
>> responders who have the ability to distinguish fact from fiction.
>>
>> Here is the thread:
>>
>> http :// groups.google,com /group/alt.support.hearing-loss/browse_frm/th...
>>
>> Note: focus on the word "psychogenic" highlighted in blue -- well,
>> blue when I look at it through my browser.
>>
>> Kai Schreiber makes an excellent point
>> in http :// en.allexperts,com /q/Neuroscience-2933/mechanism-behind-psychog...
>> :
>>
>> "psychological distress is just a very complex organic problem, that
>> as of yet we have no way of describing yet."
>>
>> Quote from http :// www .emedicine,com /emerg/topic112.htm:
>>
>> "Involvement of the corticofugal inhibitory system has been
>> suggested."
>>
>> So the mind is made of brain. Brain is made of physical matter. Hence
>> the mind is made of physical matter. Those who disagree need an
>> education.
>>
>> So keep repeating the hardcore scientifically-proven fact:
>>
>> The mind is physical! The mind is physical! The mind is physical! The
>> mind is physical! The mind is physical! The mind is physical! The mind
>> is physical! The mind is physical! The mind is physical! The mind is
>> physical! The mind is physical! The mind is physical! The mind is
>> physical! The mind is physical! The mind is physical! The mind is
>> physical! The mind is physical! The mind is physical! The mind is
>> physical! The mind is physical! The mind is physical! The mind is
>> physical! The mind is physical! The mind is physical! The mind is
>> physical! The mind is physical! The mind is physical! The mind is
>> physical! The mind is physical! The mind is physical! The mind is
>> physical! The mind is physical! The mind is physical! The mind is
>> physical! The mind is physical! The mind is physical! The mind is
>> physical! The mind is physical! The mind is physical! The mind is
>> physical! The mind is physical! The mind is physical! The mind is
>> physical! The mind is physical! The mind is physical! The mind is
>> physical! The mind is physical! The mind is physical! The mind is
>> physical! The mind is physical! The mind is physical! The mind is
>> physical! The mind is physical! The mind is physical! The mind is
>> physical!
>>
>> To suggest otherwise is simply talking from one's kakaa hole.
>>
>> Any understanding, cooperation, and assistance is greatly appreciated.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Radium
>>
>> P.S.
>>
>> Crossposted to alt.support.disorders.neurological because all ^psycho^-
>> genic disorders are -- in all reality -- *neuro*-genic.
>>
>> Crossposted to rec.music.makers.guitar.acoustic to get the attention
>> of the notorius science-hating Kol_Isha, since he/she/it frequents
>> that NG.
>
> Dear Radium,
>
> I think your level of radium exposure has reached a critical point.
>
> By the way, would you happen to know the thickness of a Fender medium
> pick? If you do, I'll take your side in the argument.

No, but _I_ own a pair of Oakley shoes that has a small plectrum pocket in
right shoe, and cones with an 'Oakley'-logoed pick. Does that count for
anything?

Steve = : ^ )

P.S. Maple, actually.

Re: The Mind Is Physical! Just Admit It!

"Radium" <glucegen1@excite,com > wrote in
news:1171946693.083341.4320@l53g2000cwa.googlegroups,com :

> Hi:
>
> At the end of last October I started a topic on psychogenic deafness
> in alt.support.hearing-loss
>
> In that thread, I was stressing that all psychogenic disoders
> ultimately have a physical cause. Most of them, especially Artis
> [artis5_at_farscape_dot_com], showed extreme anger and disagreement to
> me. Most of them insisted that psychogenic disorders are caused by the
> mind and that the mind is a purely non-physical entity seperate from
> even the brain. What morons!
>
> Posts by Artis:
>
> http :// groups.google,com /groups?as_q=&num=10&scoring=d&hl=en&as_epq=&as
> _oq=&as_eq=&as_ugroup=&as_usubject=&as_uauthors=artis5%40farscape,com &l
> r=&as_drrb=q&as_qdr=&as_mind=1&as_minm=1&as_miny=1981&as_maxd=10&as_max
> m=7&as_maxy=2006&safe=off
>
> "Kol_Isha" <kol_isha_at_hotmail_dot_com> disagrees with me on
> anything/ everything because he/she/it has a personal vendatta against
> me for what reason I don't know and don't care.
>
> Posts by Kol_Isha:
>
> http :// groups.google,com /groups?as_q=&num=10&scoring=d&hl=en&as_epq=&as
> _oq=&as_eq=&as_ugroup=&as_usubject=&as_uauthors=kol_isha%40hotmail,com &
> lr=&as_drrb=q&as_qdr=&as_mind=1&as_minm=1&as_miny=1981&as_maxd=10&as_ma
> xm=7&as_maxy=2006&safe=off
>
> Steve B (pretty_good_at_every_dot_thing) is one of the few realistic
> responders who have the ability to distinguish fact from fiction.
>
> Here is the thread:
>
> http :// groups.google,com /group/alt.support.hearing-loss/browse_frm/thre
> ad/d9e1a925945dbd66?scoring=d&q=glucegen1+psychogenic&hl=en#
>
> Note: focus on the word "psychogenic" highlighted in blue -- well,
> blue when I look at it through my browser.
>
> Kai Schreiber makes an excellent point in
> http :// en.allexperts,com /q/Neuroscience-2933/mechanism-behind-psychogen
> ic-coma.htm
>:
>
> "psychological distress is just a very complex organic problem, that
> as of yet we have no way of describing yet."
>
> Quote from http :// www .emedicine,com /emerg/topic112.htm :
>
> "Involvement of the corticofugal inhibitory system has been
> suggested."
>
> So the mind is made of brain. Brain is made of physical matter. Hence
> the mind is made of physical matter. Those who disagree need an
> education.
>
> So keep repeating the hardcore scientifically-proven fact:
>
> The mind is physical! The mind is physical! The mind is physical! The
> mind is physical! The mind is physical! The mind is physical! The mind
> is physical! The mind is physical! The mind is physical! The mind is
> physical! The mind is physical! The mind is physical! The mind is
> physical! The mind is physical! The mind is physical! The mind is
> physical! The mind is physical! The mind is physical! The mind is
> physical! The mind is physical! The mind is physical! The mind is
> physical! The mind is physical! The mind is physical! The mind is
> physical! The mind is physical! The mind is physical! The mind is
> physical! The mind is physical! The mind is physical! The mind is
> physical! The mind is physical! The mind is physical! The mind is
> physical! The mind is physical! The mind is physical! The mind is
> physical! The mind is physical! The mind is physical! The mind is
> physical! The mind is physical! The mind is physical! The mind is
> physical! The mind is physical! The mind is physical! The mind is
> physical! The mind is physical! The mind is physical! The mind is
> physical! The mind is physical! The mind is physical! The mind is
> physical! The mind is physical! The mind is physical! The mind is
> physical!
>
> To suggest otherwise is simply talking from one's kakaa hole.
>
> Any understanding, cooperation, and assistance is greatly appreciated.
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Radium
>
> P.S.
>
> Crossposted to alt.support.disorders.neurological because all
> ^psycho^- genic disorders are -- in all reality -- *neuro*-genic.
>
> Crossposted to rec.music.makers.guitar.acoustic to get the attention
> of the notorius science-hating Kol_Isha, since he/she/it frequents
> that NG.
>

Please take your childish whining to your mama and quit crossposting your
tantrums.

Steve Hawkins

Re: The Mind Is Physical! Just Admit It!

On Feb 19, 10:44 pm, "Radium" <gluceg...@excite,com > wrote:
> Hi:
>
> At the end of last October I started a topic on psychogenic deafness
> in alt.support.hearing-loss
>
> In that thread, I was stressing that all psychogenic disoders
> ultimately have a physical cause. Most of them, especially Artis
> [artis5 at farscape dot com], showed extreme anger and disagreement to
> me. Most of them insisted that psychogenic disorders are caused by the
> mind and that the mind is a purely non-physical entity seperate from
> even the brain. What morons!
>
> Posts by Artis:
>
> http :// groups.google,com /groups?as q=&num&scoring=d&hl=en&as epq=&...
>
> "Kol Isha" <kol isha at hotmail dot com> disagrees with me on anything/
> everything because he/she/it has a personal vendatta against me for
> what reason I don't know and don't care.
>
> Posts by Kol Isha:
>
> http :// groups.google,com /groups?as q=&num&scoring=d&hl=en&as epq=&...
>
> Steve B (pretty good at every dot thing) is one of the few realistic
> responders who have the ability to distinguish fact from fiction.
>
> Here is the thread:
>
> http :// groups.google,com /group/alt.support.hearing-loss/browse frm/th...
>
> Note: focus on the word "psychogenic" highlighted in blue -- well,
> blue when I look at it through my browser.
>
> Kai Schreiber makes an excellent point in http :// en.allexperts,com /q/Neuroscience-2933/mechanism-behind-psychog...
> :
>
> "psychological distress is just a very complex organic problem, that
> as of yet we have no way of describing yet."
>
> Quote from http :// www .emedicine,com /emerg/topic112.htm:
>
> "Involvement of the corticofugal inhibitory system has been
> suggested."
>
> So the mind is made of brain. Brain is made of physical matter. Hence
> the mind is made of physical matter. Those who disagree need an
> education.
>
> So keep repeating the hardcore scientifically-proven fact:
>
> The mind is physical! The mind is physical! The mind is physical! The
> mind is physical! The mind is physical! The mind is physical! The mind
> is physical! The mind is physical! The mind is physical! The mind is
> physical! The mind is physical! The mind is physical! The mind is
> physical! The mind is physical! The mind is physical! The mind is
> physical! The mind is physical! The mind is physical! The mind is
> physical! The mind is physical! The mind is physical! The mind is
> physical! The mind is physical! The mind is physical! The mind is
> physical! The mind is physical! The mind is physical! The mind is
> physical! The mind is physical! The mind is physical! The mind is
> physical! The mind is physical! The mind is physical! The mind is
> physical! The mind is physical! The mind is physical! The mind is
> physical! The mind is physical! The mind is physical! The mind is
> physical! The mind is physical! The mind is physical! The mind is
> physical! The mind is physical! The mind is physical! The mind is
> physical! The mind is physical! The mind is physical! The mind is
> physical! The mind is physical! The mind is physical! The mind is
> physical! The mind is physical! The mind is physical! The mind is
> physical!
>
> To suggest otherwise is simply talking from one's kakaa hole.
>
> Any understanding, cooperation, and assistance is greatly appreciated.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Radium
>
> P.S.
>
> Crossposted to alt.support.disorders.neurological because all ^psycho^-
> genic disorders are -- in all reality -- *neuro*-genic.
>
> Crossposted to rec.music.makers.guitar.acoustic to get the attention
> of the notorius science-hating Kol Isha, since he/she/it frequents
> that NG.

Okay. I admit it. The mind is physical!
Sure hope this helps.

LB

Re: The Mind Is Physical! Just Admit It!

Funny stuff.
Thanks for the mood lifter!

Artis

"Larry Brown" <larrybrown9@hotmail,com > wrote in message
news:1172002346.446478.244130@p10g2000cwp.googlegroups,com ...
> On Feb 19, 10:44 pm, "Radium" <gluceg...@excite,com > wrote:
>> Hi:
>>
>> At the end of last October I started a topic on psychogenic deafness
>> in alt.support.hearing-loss
>>
>> In that thread, I was stressing that all psychogenic disoders
>> ultimately have a physical cause. Most of them, especially Artis
>> [artis5_at_farscape_dot_com], showed extreme anger and disagreement to
>> me. Most of them insisted that psychogenic disorders are caused by the
>> mind and that the mind is a purely non-physical entity seperate from
>> even the brain. What morons!
>>
>> Posts by Artis:
>>
>> http :// groups.google,com /groups?as_q=&num=10&scoring=d&hl=en&as_epq=&...
>>
>> "Kol_Isha" <kol_isha_at_hotmail_dot_com> disagrees with me on anything/
>> everything because he/she/it has a personal vendatta against me for
>> what reason I don't know and don't care.
>>
>> Posts by Kol_Isha:
>>
>> http :// groups.google,com /groups?as_q=&num=10&scoring=d&hl=en&as_epq=&...
>>
>> Steve B (pretty_good_at_every_dot_thing) is one of the few realistic
>> responders who have the ability to distinguish fact from fiction.
>>
>> Here is the thread:
>>
>> http :// groups.google,com /group/alt.support.hearing-loss/browse_frm/th...
>>
>> Note: focus on the word "psychogenic" highlighted in blue -- well,
>> blue when I look at it through my browser.
>>
>> Kai Schreiber makes an excellent point
>> in http :// en.allexperts,com /q/Neuroscience-2933/mechanism-behind-psychog...
>> :
>>
>> "psychological distress is just a very complex organic problem, that
>> as of yet we have no way of describing yet."
>>
>> Quote from http :// www .emedicine,com /emerg/topic112.htm:
>>
>> "Involvement of the corticofugal inhibitory system has been
>> suggested."
>>
>> So the mind is made of brain. Brain is made of physical matter. Hence
>> the mind is made of physical matter. Those who disagree need an
>> education.
>>
>> So keep repeating the hardcore scientifically-proven fact:
>>
>> The mind is physical! The mind is physical! The mind is physical! The
>> mind is physical! The mind is physical! The mind is physical! The mind
>> is physical! The mind is physical! The mind is physical! The mind is
>> physical! The mind is physical! The mind is physical! The mind is
>> physical! The mind is physical! The mind is physical! The mind is
>> physical! The mind is physical! The mind is physical! The mind is
>> physical! The mind is physical! The mind is physical! The mind is
>> physical! The mind is physical! The mind is physical! The mind is
>> physical! The mind is physical! The mind is physical! The mind is
>> physical! The mind is physical! The mind is physical! The mind is
>> physical! The mind is physical! The mind is physical! The mind is
>> physical! The mind is physical! The mind is physical! The mind is
>> physical! The mind is physical! The mind is physical! The mind is
>> physical! The mind is physical! The mind is physical! The mind is
>> physical! The mind is physical! The mind is physical! The mind is
>> physical! The mind is physical! The mind is physical! The mind is
>> physical! The mind is physical! The mind is physical! The mind is
>> physical! The mind is physical! The mind is physical! The mind is
>> physical!
>>
>> To suggest otherwise is simply talking from one's kakaa hole.
>>
>> Any understanding, cooperation, and assistance is greatly appreciated.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Radium
>>
>> P.S.
>>
>> Crossposted to alt.support.disorders.neurological because all ^psycho^-
>> genic disorders are -- in all reality -- *neuro*-genic.
>>
>> Crossposted to rec.music.makers.guitar.acoustic to get the attention
>> of the notorius science-hating Kol_Isha, since he/she/it frequents
>> that NG.
>
> Okay. I admit it. The mind is physical!
> Sure hope this helps.
>
> LB
>

Re: The Mind Is Physical! Just Admit It!

Radium wrote:
> Hi:
>
> At the end of last October I started a topic on psychogenic deafness
> in alt.support.hearing-loss
>
> In that thread, I was stressing that all psychogenic disoders
> ultimately have a physical cause. Most of them, especially Artis
> [artis5 at farscape dot com], showed extreme anger and disagreement to
> me. Most of them insisted that psychogenic disorders are caused by the
> mind and that the mind is a purely non-physical entity seperate from
> even the brain. What morons!
>

I take it you've never questioned the evidence of the senses, though the
first priority in philosophy is to discover how we know what we know.
That the senses report truly is an unquestioned assumption in both
philosophy and science and the reason why we have failed to
satisfactorily answer such questions, as well as more important ones.




--
Stephen
Ballina, Australia

Re: The Mind Is Physical! Just Admit It!

On Feb 20, 3:57 pm, Stephen Calder <cald...@in,com .au> wrote:
> Radium wrote:
> > Hi:
>
> > At the end of last October I started a topic on psychogenic deafness
> > in alt.support.hearing-loss
>
> > In that thread, I was stressing that all psychogenic disoders
> > ultimately have a physical cause. Most of them, especially Artis
> > [artis5 at farscape dot com], showed extreme anger and disagreement to
> > me. Most of them insisted that psychogenic disorders are caused by the
> > mind and that the mind is a purely non-physical entity seperate from
> > even the brain. What morons!
>
> I take it you've never questioned the evidence of the senses, though the
> first priority in philosophy is to discover how we know what we know.
> That the senses report truly is an unquestioned assumption in both
> philosophy and science and the reason why we have failed to
> satisfactorily answer such questions, as well as more important ones.
>
> --
> Stephen
> Ballina, Australia

I've read thru this three times and laughed harder each time. How old
are you, man? I wish I had some of THAT smoke!

Re: The Mind Is Physical! Just Admit It!

Larry Brown wrote:
> On Feb 20, 3:57 pm, Stephen Calder <cald...@in,com .au> wrote:
>> Radium wrote:
>>> Hi:
>>> At the end of last October I started a topic on psychogenic deafness
>>> in alt.support.hearing-loss
>>> In that thread, I was stressing that all psychogenic disoders
>>> ultimately have a physical cause. Most of them, especially Artis
>>> [artis5 at farscape dot com], showed extreme anger and disagreement to
>>> me. Most of them insisted that psychogenic disorders are caused by the
>>> mind and that the mind is a purely non-physical entity seperate from
>>> even the brain. What morons!
>> I take it you've never questioned the evidence of the senses, though the
>> first priority in philosophy is to discover how we know what we know.
>> That the senses report truly is an unquestioned assumption in both
>> philosophy and science and the reason why we have failed to
>> satisfactorily answer such questions, as well as more important ones.
>>
>> --
>> Stephen
>> Ballina, Australia
>
> I've read thru this three times and laughed harder each time. How old
> are you, man? I wish I had some of THAT smoke!
>

Another who unquestionably takes the evidence of the senses as real.

Trapped.

I'm 54, why is that relevant?


--
Stephen
Ballina, Australia

Re: The Mind Is Physical! Just Admit It!

On Feb 20, 3:57 pm, Stephen Calder <cald...@in,com .au> wrote:
> Radium wrote:
> > Hi:
>
> > At the end of last October I started a topic on psychogenic deafness
> > in alt.support.hearing-loss
>
> > In that thread, I was stressing that all psychogenic disoders
> > ultimately have a physical cause. Most of them, especially Artis
> > [artis5 at farscape dot com], showed extreme anger and disagreement to
> > me. Most of them insisted that psychogenic disorders are caused by the
> > mind and that the mind is a purely non-physical entity seperate from
> > even the brain. What morons!
>
> I take it you've never questioned the evidence of the senses, though the
> first priority in philosophy is to discover how we know what we know.
> That the senses report truly is an unquestioned assumption in both
> philosophy and science and the reason why we have failed to
> satisfactorily answer such questions, as well as more important ones.
>
> --
> Stephen
> Ballina, Australia

Now me and my wife have had a laugh. Thanks Stephen. Are you a second
year college student, or an old stoner who forgot to bring his
thoughts together? Where to begin? "Unquestioned assumption"?
Good night amigo.

Re: The Mind Is Physical! Just Admit It!

Larry Brown wrote:
> On Feb 20, 3:57 pm, Stephen Calder <cald...@in,com .au> wrote:
>> Radium wrote:
>>> Hi:
>>> At the end of last October I started a topic on psychogenic deafness
>>> in alt.support.hearing-loss
>>> In that thread, I was stressing that all psychogenic disoders
>>> ultimately have a physical cause. Most of them, especially Artis
>>> [artis5 at farscape dot com], showed extreme anger and disagreement to
>>> me. Most of them insisted that psychogenic disorders are caused by the
>>> mind and that the mind is a purely non-physical entity seperate from
>>> even the brain. What morons!
>> I take it you've never questioned the evidence of the senses, though the
>> first priority in philosophy is to discover how we know what we know.
>> That the senses report truly is an unquestioned assumption in both
>> philosophy and science and the reason why we have failed to
>> satisfactorily answer such questions, as well as more important ones.
>>
>> --
>> Stephen
>> Ballina, Australia
>
> Now me and my wife have had a laugh. Thanks Stephen. Are you a second
> year college student, or an old stoner who forgot to bring his
> thoughts together? Where to begin? "Unquestioned assumption"?
> Good night amigo.
>

Glad it amused you.

How do YOU know what you think you know is true? Any of it?

Have you read Russell's introduction to philosophy?

--
Stephen
Ballina, Australia

Re: The Mind Is Physical! Just Admit It!

Larry Brown wrote:
> On Feb 20, 3:57 pm, Stephen Calder <cald...@in,com .au> wrote:
>
>>Radium wrote:
>>
>>>Hi:
>>
>>>At the end of last October I started a topic on psychogenic deafness
>>>in alt.support.hearing-loss
>>
>>>In that thread, I was stressing that all psychogenic disoders
>>>ultimately have a physical cause. Most of them, especially Artis
>>>[artis5_at_farscape_dot_com], showed extreme anger and disagreement to
>>>me. Most of them insisted that psychogenic disorders are caused by the
>>>mind and that the mind is a purely non-physical entity seperate from
>>>even the brain. What morons!
>>
>>I take it you've never questioned the evidence of the senses, though the
>>first priority in philosophy is to discover how we know what we know.
>>That the senses report truly is an unquestioned assumption in both
>>philosophy and science and the reason why we have failed to
>>satisfactorily answer such questions, as well as more important ones.
>>
>>--
>>Stephen
>>Ballina, Australia
>
>
> Now me and my wife have had a laugh. Thanks Stephen. Are you a second
> year college student, or an old stoner who forgot to bring his
> thoughts together? Where to begin? "Unquestioned assumption"?
> Good night amigo.
>

Actually Larry, he's right.

No way has been found to determine that each of us receives the same
information through our sensory systems.

The old arguement, what I see as red you may see as what I call green
(if you see what I mean).

The only thing that allows us to communicate is that our individual
perceptions are (in most cases) constant.

MJRB