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VRL-1 Excitation -- Benign yet Worst Tactile Torture Possible

Reply from: Radium
Date: 09 Mar 2007, 03:30
VRL-1 Excitation -- Benign yet Worst Tactile Torture Possible

Hi:

Sorry, I just HAVE to post this. Please don't get upset at me.

Here is the most terrifying torture for anyone to experience:

1. All his/her voluntary muscles [and their fibers] -- excluding
breathing muscles but including speech muscles -- should be relaxed to
a state of total paralysis [no amount of stimulation (whether neural
or direct electric stimulation of the muscle fibers) should be able to
cause these muscles to contract or "un-relax"]. This will make him/her
unable to move or vocalize.

2. While his/her breathing muscles should not be paralyzed, his/her
voluntary control of them should be totally lost [this means that his/
her autonomic nervous system will have complete control over his/her
respiration].

3. The motor nerves supplying his/her voluntary muscles -- including
speech muscles but excluding breathing muscles -- should also be
relaxed into total paralysis [these motor nerves should be hyper-
polarized] and unable to "un-relax".

4. His/her entire autonomic nervous system [and their effectors], his/
her heart's natural pacemaker, his/her natural pain-relieving -- and
stress-relieving -- mechanisms, smooth muscles [including those in the
respiratory system], endocrine, hormonal, inflammatory, lysosomal, and
immune systems should remain totally unresponsive to the infliction of
even the most excruciating pain, totally unresponsive to any type of
injury [regardless of severity], and totally unresponsive to any
emotion or psychological state [regardless of intensity].

5. The parts of his/her brain that deal exclusively with movement,
contraction/relaxation of all voluntary muscles [including speech
muscles but excluding breathing] muscles should also be relaxed into a
state of hyperpolarization.

6. The parts of his/her brain that deal solely with voluntary -- but
not involuntary -- control of breathing should also be relaxed into
hyperpolarization.

7. All pain reflexes -- somatic and visceral - should be totally
paralyzed.

Now, perform dermal VRL-1 stimulation using remote-controlled nanobots
that have been attached to the
prisoner's VRL-1 receptors. First device a way in which the nanobots
will attach to -- electrically-stimulate -- those VRL-1 receptors on
the push of a remote controlled button. Of course, be sure that an
extremely low voltage is used [around the same voltage used by neurons
and receptors themselves -- thereby preventing any electroporation,
increase in temperature, irritation, inflammation, or immune
response]. Also, be sure to only stimulate VRL-1s in the skin. In
addition, make sure that the maximum amount [number per area] and
intensity [extent of depolarization] of VRL-1 excitation is just small
enough there is no damage/injury to those nerves/receptors or any
sensory overload at all.

In the skin, VRL-1 serves as a thermal nociceptor. However in the
viscera, lungs and other internal organs, VRL-1 has a totally
different purpose. So confine the VRL-1 stimulation to the skin only.

At first the VRL-1 excitation should be at minimum amount and
intensity. The amount and intensity and of VRL-1 excitation should
then smoothly increase in a sine-wave-like manner such that when a
minute has passed, the amount and intensity of VRL-1 excitement
reaches max.

When you decide to stop torturing him/her, make sure the radio-
controlled nanoelectrodes stop firing at the VRL-1s in the same smooth
manner in which they started. However, instead of taking a minute to
completely stop applying electricity to those VRL-1s, make sure these
nanoelectrodes only take half a minute to stop. So the VRL-1
stimulation - both in amount [number per area] and intensity [extent
of depolarization] -- should stop at 2x the speed it started but in
the same smooth sine-wave manner in which it started.

Info on VRL-1 nerve-endings:

http :// users.rcn,com /jkimball.ma.ultranet/BiologyPages/P/Pain.html

TRPV2 (also called VRL-1) responds to temperatures above 52 Celsius.
"Painfully hot"

VR-1 responds to capsicain. VRL-1 does NOT. There is a world of
difference.

VRL-1 responds only to "painfully hot"

VR-1 responds to hot, chili, and acids.

Once again, there is a BIG difference between VR-1 and VRL-1.

Read the quotes from http :// users.rcn,com /jkimball.ma.ultranet/BiologyPages/P/Pain.html
:

"TRPV1 (also known as VR1) = Hot (>43?C). Also activated by capsaicin,
the active ingredient of hot chili peppers, by camphor, and by acids
(protons)."

"TRPV2 (also called VRL-1) = Painfully hot (>52?C)"

http :// www .islandnet,com /~yesmag/brain/brainbump.php?id•

"VR1 for hot, and VRL1 for super hot."

So VRL1-excitation is significantly more painful than VR1-excitation.
This is why thermal burns are SOOOOOOOOOOOOOO much more agonizing than
acid-burns of the same depth. This is also why "temperature hot" is a
lot more algogenic than "chili hot". All cuz of those
nastyVRL-1s!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Regards,

Radium


Reply from: GreendistantNOSPAMstar
Date: 09 Mar 2007, 05:23
Re: VRL-1 Excitation -- Benign yet Worst Tactile Torture Possible


"Radium" <glucegen1@excite,com > wrote in message
news:1173407434.741085.46340@c51g2000cwc.googlegroups,com ...
> Hi:
>
> Sorry, I just HAVE to post this. Please don't get upset at me.
>
> Here is the most terrifying torture for anyone to experience:

Your continual, obsessive postings on this subject are running a close second.

Let it go, get laid, get a life....please.
--
GDS

" Let's roll! "




Reply from: Shuurai
Date: 09 Mar 2007, 14:57
Re: VRL-1 Excitation -- Benign yet Worst Tactile Torture Possible

On Mar 8, 9:30 pm, "Radium" <gluceg...@excite,com > wrote:
> Hi:
>
> Sorry, I just HAVE to post this. Please don't get upset at me.
>
> Here is the most terrifying torture for anyone to experience:

Dude, you need to seriously come up with better trolling. Granted,
the bar has been set pretty low as of late, but come on - think of
something new to babble about.

At least with the marble mace shit we could have fun with geeky D&D
talk.


Reply from: Dan Winsor
Date: 09 Mar 2007, 14:57
Re: VRL-1 Excitation -- Benign yet Worst Tactile Torture Possible

On Mar 8, 9:30 pm, "Radium" <gluceg...@excite,com > wrote:
> Hi:
>
> Sorry, I just HAVE to post this. Please don't get upset at me.
>
> Here is the most terrifying torture for anyone to experience:

Look, I'm married and have children. You can't scare me.

--
Dan Winsor

Soy un poco loco en el coco.


Reply from: Ned Goudy
Date: 21 Mar 2007, 03:19
Re: VRL-1 Excitation -- Benign yet Worst Tactile Torture Possible

On 9 Mar 2007 05:57:45 -0800, "Dan Winsor" <dan.winsor@gmail,com >
wrote:

>On Mar 8, 9:30 pm, "Radium" <gluceg...@excite,com > wrote:
>> Hi:
>>
>> Sorry, I just HAVE to post this. Please don't get upset at me.
>>
>> Here is the most terrifying torture for anyone to experience:
>
>Look, I'm married and have children. You can't scare me.
>
>--
>Dan Winsor

Dear Dan...

I commend you on a CLASSIC post to the USENET.
This is one of the best I have seen in a long while.

Thanks for the entertainment value. I have been
there and I know of what you speak. :o)

Ned

Reply from: YumYumPandaburger
Date: 09 Mar 2007, 15:00
Re: VRL-1 Excitation -- Benign yet Worst Tactile Torture Possible

On 9 mrt, 03:30, "Radium" <gluceg...@excite,com > wrote:
> Hi:

Please die.


Reply from: travisgod@aol,com inyrface
Date: 09 Mar 2007, 18:27
Re: VRL-1 Excitation -- Benign yet Worst Tactile Torture Possible

On Mar 8, 9:30 pm, "Radium" <gluceg...@excite,com > wrote:
> Hi:
>
> Sorry, I just HAVE to post this. Please don't get upset at me.
>
> Here is the most terrifying torture for anyone to experience:
>
> 1. All his/her voluntary muscles [and their fibers] -- excluding
> breathing muscles but including speech muscles -- should be relaxed to
> a state of total paralysis [no amount of stimulation (whether neural
> or direct electric stimulation of the muscle fibers) should be able to
> cause these muscles to contract or "un-relax"]. This will make him/her
> unable to move or vocalize.
>
> 2. While his/her breathing muscles should not be paralyzed, his/her
> voluntary control of them should be totally lost [this means that his/
> her autonomic nervous system will have complete control over his/her
> respiration].
>
> 3. The motor nerves supplying his/her voluntary muscles -- including
> speech muscles but excluding breathing muscles -- should also be
> relaxed into total paralysis [these motor nerves should be hyper-
> polarized] and unable to "un-relax".
>
> 4. His/her entire autonomic nervous system [and their effectors], his/
> her heart's natural pacemaker, his/her natural pain-relieving -- and
> stress-relieving -- mechanisms, smooth muscles [including those in the
> respiratory system], endocrine, hormonal, inflammatory, lysosomal, and
> immune systems should remain totally unresponsive to the infliction of
> even the most excruciating pain, totally unresponsive to any type of
> injury [regardless of severity], and totally unresponsive to any
> emotion or psychological state [regardless of intensity].
>
> 5. The parts of his/her brain that deal exclusively with movement,
> contraction/relaxation of all voluntary muscles [including speech
> muscles but excluding breathing] muscles should also be relaxed into a
> state of hyperpolarization.
>
> 6. The parts of his/her brain that deal solely with voluntary -- but
> not involuntary -- control of breathing should also be relaxed into
> hyperpolarization.
>
> 7. All pain reflexes -- somatic and visceral - should be totally
> paralyzed.
>
> Now, perform dermal VRL-1 stimulation using remote-controlled nanobots
> that have been attached to the
> prisoner's VRL-1 receptors. First device a way in which the nanobots
> will attach to -- electrically-stimulate -- those VRL-1 receptors on
> the push of a remote controlled button. Of course, be sure that an
> extremely low voltage is used [around the same voltage used by neurons
> and receptors themselves -- thereby preventing any electroporation,
> increase in temperature, irritation, inflammation, or immune
> response]. Also, be sure to only stimulate VRL-1s in the skin. In
> addition, make sure that the maximum amount [number per area] and
> intensity [extent of depolarization] of VRL-1 excitation is just small
> enough there is no damage/injury to those nerves/receptors or any
> sensory overload at all.
>
> In the skin, VRL-1 serves as a thermal nociceptor. However in the
> viscera, lungs and other internal organs, VRL-1 has a totally
> different purpose. So confine the VRL-1 stimulation to the skin only.
>
> At first the VRL-1 excitation should be at minimum amount and
> intensity. The amount and intensity and of VRL-1 excitation should
> then smoothly increase in a sine-wave-like manner such that when a
> minute has passed, the amount and intensity of VRL-1 excitement
> reaches max.
>
> When you decide to stop torturing him/her, make sure the radio-
> controlled nanoelectrodes stop firing at the VRL-1s in the same smooth
> manner in which they started. However, instead of taking a minute to
> completely stop applying electricity to those VRL-1s, make sure these
> nanoelectrodes only take half a minute to stop. So the VRL-1
> stimulation - both in amount [number per area] and intensity [extent
> of depolarization] -- should stop at 2x the speed it started but in
> the same smooth sine-wave manner in which it started.
>
> Info on VRL-1 nerve-endings:
>
> http :// users.rcn,com /jkimball.ma.ultranet/BiologyPages/P/Pain.html
>
> TRPV2 (also called VRL-1) responds to temperatures above 52 Celsius.
> "Painfully hot"
>
> VR-1 responds to capsicain. VRL-1 does NOT. There is a world of
> difference.
>
> VRL-1 responds only to "painfully hot"
>
> VR-1 responds to hot, chili, and acids.
>
> Once again, there is a BIG difference between VR-1 and VRL-1.
>
> Read the quotes from http :// users.rcn,com /jkimball.ma.ultranet/BiologyPages/P/Pain.html
> :
>
> "TRPV1 (also known as VR1) = Hot (>43?C). Also activated by capsaicin,
> the active ingredient of hot chili peppers, by camphor, and by acids
> (protons)."
>
> "TRPV2 (also called VRL-1) = Painfully hot (>52?C)"
>
> http :// www .islandnet,com /~yesmag/brain/brainbump.php?id•
>
> "VR1 for hot, and VRL1 for super hot."
>
> So VRL1-excitation is significantly more painful than VR1-excitation.
> This is why thermal burns are SOOOOOOOOOOOOOO much more agonizing than
> acid-burns of the same depth. This is also why "temperature hot" is a
> lot more algogenic than "chili hot". All cuz of those
> nastyVRL-1s!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>
> Regards,
>
> Radium

Wouldn't work.

You'd just churn out psychopaths with severe dissociative disorders.

BTW, your schtick is disturbingly weird, like perhaps you are one of
the aforementioned individuals.

Trav


Reply from: Radium
Date: 09 Mar 2007, 19:37
Re: VRL-1 Excitation -- Benign yet Worst Tactile Torture Possible

On Mar 9, 9:27 am, "travis...@aol,com inyrface" <travis...@aol,com >
wrote:

> Wouldn't work.

Why not? VRL-1 excitation naturally occurs when you touch an object
that noxiously-hot.

So theoretically, VRL-1 excitation using microscopic electronic nerve-
stimulating machines would achieve the same effect without causing any
injury or *actual* increase in temperature. Right?


Reply from: Shuurai
Date: 09 Mar 2007, 20:24
Re: VRL-1 Excitation -- Benign yet Worst Tactile Torture Possible

On Mar 9, 1:37 pm, "Radium" <gluceg...@excite,com > wrote:
> On Mar 9, 9:27 am, "travis...@aol,com inyrface" <travis...@aol,com >
> wrote:
>
> > Wouldn't work.
>
> Why not? VRL-1 excitation naturally occurs when you touch an object
> that noxiously-hot.
>
> So theoretically, VRL-1 excitation using microscopic electronic nerve-
> stimulating machines would achieve the same effect without causing any
> injury or *actual* increase in temperature. Right?

Nobody cares.

Really, your ramblings just aren't that interesting to anyone here on
RMA, which is why nobody is taking you or your rantings seriously. I
haven't checked any of the groups you've been cross-posting to, but I
suspect none of them are interested either. The only redeeming
feature of ANYTHING you have ever posted was that your marble mass
nonsense got us D&D fans joking with one another. Aside from that,
zilch.

You might be a sincere - and in that case utterly disturbed - person
who's actually trying to find out more about these ridiculous
subjects, or you might just be a very untalented troll. I don't think
anyone really cares which one of those two you are, but trust me when
I tell you that those are the only two options on the table.

Please, either come up with some new and actually interesting material
or just stop trying.


Reply from: JJ
Date: 09 Mar 2007, 20:38
Re: VRL-1 Excitation -- Benign yet Worst Tactile Torture Possible

Shuurai wrote:
> On Mar 9, 1:37 pm, "Radium" <gluceg...@excite,com > wrote:
>> On Mar 9, 9:27 am, "travis...@aol,com inyrface" <travis...@aol,com >
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Wouldn't work.
>> Why not? VRL-1 excitation naturally occurs when you touch an object
>> that noxiously-hot.
>>
>> So theoretically, VRL-1 excitation using microscopic electronic nerve-
>> stimulating machines would achieve the same effect without causing any
>> injury or *actual* increase in temperature. Right?
>
> Nobody cares.
>
> Really, your ramblings just aren't that interesting to anyone here on
> RMA, which is why nobody is taking you or your rantings seriously. I
> haven't checked any of the groups you've been cross-posting to, but I
> suspect none of them are interested either. The only redeeming
> feature of ANYTHING you have ever posted was that your marble mass
> nonsense got us D&D fans joking with one another. Aside from that,
> zilch.
>
> You might be a sincere - and in that case utterly disturbed - person
> who's actually trying to find out more about these ridiculous
> subjects, or you might just be a very untalented troll. I don't think
> anyone really cares which one of those two you are, but trust me when
> I tell you that those are the only two options on the table.
>
> Please, either come up with some new and actually interesting material
> or just stop trying.
>
I haven't checked in on Usnet lately, but now I remember why it is so
polluted. People with serious conditions that wish to share information,
have to have these idiots waste space with unrelated crap!

Reply from: Bert Hyman
Date: 09 Mar 2007, 20:40
Re: VRL-1 Excitation -- Benign yet Worst Tactile Torture Possible

jakervik@comcast,net (JJ) wrote in
news:c6idnX5fUe8DKmzYnZ2dnUVZ_hjinZ2d@comcast,com :

> I haven't checked in on Usnet lately, but now I remember why it is
> so polluted. People with serious conditions that wish to share
> information, have to have these idiots waste space with unrelated
> crap!

If your newsreader has a kill file or filter feature, learn to use
it.

If it doesn't switch to one that does.

Then, resist the urge to follow-up to trolls and nut cases.

--
Bert Hyman | St. Paul, MN | bert@iphouse,com

Reply from: Radium
Date: 09 Mar 2007, 20:39
Re: VRL-1 Excitation -- Benign yet Worst Tactile Torture Possible

On Mar 9, 11:24 am, "Shuurai" <Shuura...@hotmail,com > wrote:

> The only redeeming
> feature of ANYTHING you have ever posted was that your marble mass
> nonsense got us D&D fans joking with one another.

What is "D&D"?


Reply from: Shuurai
Date: 09 Mar 2007, 23:10
Re: VRL-1 Excitation -- Benign yet Worst Tactile Torture Possible

On Mar 9, 2:39 pm, "Radium" <gluceg...@excite,com > wrote:
> On Mar 9, 11:24 am, "Shuurai" <Shuura...@hotmail,com > wrote:
>
> > The only redeeming
> > feature of ANYTHING you have ever posted was that your marble mass
> > nonsense got us D&D fans joking with one another.
>
> What is "D&D"?

Dungeons And Dragons. They have maces.


Reply from: Shuurai
Date: 09 Mar 2007, 23:21
Re: VRL-1 Excitation -- Benign yet Worst Tactile Torture Possible

On Mar 9, 2:39 pm, "Radium" <gluceg...@excite,com > wrote:
> On Mar 9, 11:24 am, "Shuurai" <Shuura...@hotmail,com > wrote:
>
> > The only redeeming
> > feature of ANYTHING you have ever posted was that your marble mass
> > nonsense got us D&D fans joking with one another.
>
> What is "D&D"?

Something that requires marble maces.


Reply from: will01996@aol,com
Date: 14 Mar 2007, 21:49
Re: VRL-1 Excitation -- Benign yet Worst Tactile Torture Possible

On Mar 9, 6:21 pm, "Shuurai" <Shuura...@hotmail,com > wrote:
> On Mar 9, 2:39 pm, "Radium" <gluceg...@excite,com > wrote:
>
> > On Mar 9, 11:24 am, "Shuurai" <Shuura...@hotmail,com > wrote:
>
> > > The only redeeming
> > > feature of ANYTHING you have ever posted was that your marble mass
> > > nonsense got us D&D fans joking with one another.
>
> > What is "D&D"?
>
> Something that requires marble maces.

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WTF does this have to do with treatment of chronic pain? Have I
missed something?

Will



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