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a challenge to evolution punks
Re: a challenge to evolution punks
On Mon, 23 Apr 2007 22:48:41 -0400, John Harshman wrote
(in article <deeXh.532$RX.326@newssvr11.news.prodigy,net >):
> Perhaps in the future you could limit your postings to
> alt.drugs.psychedelics, since you seem to be tripping here.
If I may paraphrase the words of that great philosopher, Will Smith: "He's
not tripping, he's fallen and he can't get up."
Or, in the words of that _other_ great philosopher, Bugs Bunny: "Wot a
maroon."
--
email to oshea dot j dot j at gmail dot com.
On Mon, 23 Apr 2007 22:48:41 -0400, John Harshman wrote
(in article <deeXh.532$RX.326@newssvr11.news.prodigy,net >):
> Perhaps in the future you could limit your postings to
> alt.drugs.psychedelics, since you seem to be tripping here.
If I may paraphrase the words of that great philosopher, Will Smith: "He's
not tripping, he's fallen and he can't get up."
Or, in the words of that _other_ great philosopher, Bugs Bunny: "Wot a
maroon."
--
email to oshea dot j dot j at gmail dot com.
Re: a challenge to evolution punks
John Harshman wrote:
> Perhaps in the future you could limit your postings to
> alt.drugs.psychedelics, since you seem to be tripping here.
DALE KELLY IS NOT A TYPICAL PSYCHEDELIC USER, GODDAMMIT.
His rants have NOTHING to do with drugs, and everything to do with being
born without a functioning cerebral cortex.
You know who else used psychedelic drugs? Richard Feynman, for one. Sir
Humphry Osmond. Francis Crick was on LSD the night the image of the
double helix first occurred to him.
Stop taking the fucking cheap shots at drug users! Can't you flame this
idiot without haughtily insulting millions of other psychedelic users
you know nothing about?
--
--Sean
http :// spclsd223.livejournal,com /
'What else turns you on? Drugs? Casual sex? Rough sex? ... Casual rough
sex? I'm a doctor, I need to know.' --Dr Gregory House
John Harshman wrote:
> Perhaps in the future you could limit your postings to
> alt.drugs.psychedelics, since you seem to be tripping here.
DALE KELLY IS NOT A TYPICAL PSYCHEDELIC USER, GODDAMMIT.
His rants have NOTHING to do with drugs, and everything to do with being
born without a functioning cerebral cortex.
You know who else used psychedelic drugs? Richard Feynman, for one. Sir
Humphry Osmond. Francis Crick was on LSD the night the image of the
double helix first occurred to him.
Stop taking the fucking cheap shots at drug users! Can't you flame this
idiot without haughtily insulting millions of other psychedelic users
you know nothing about?
--
--Sean
http :// spclsd223.livejournal,com /
'What else turns you on? Drugs? Casual sex? Rough sex? ... Casual rough
sex? I'm a doctor, I need to know.' --Dr Gregory House
Re: a challenge to evolution punks
Sean Carroll wrote:
> John Harshman wrote:
>
>
>>Perhaps in the future you could limit your postings to
>>alt.drugs.psychedelics, since you seem to be tripping here.
>
>
> DALE KELLY IS NOT A TYPICAL PSYCHEDELIC USER, GODDAMMIT.
>
> His rants have NOTHING to do with drugs, and everything to do with being
> born without a functioning cerebral cortex.
>
> You know who else used psychedelic drugs? Richard Feynman, for one. Sir
> Humphry Osmond. Francis Crick was on LSD the night the image of the
> double helix first occurred to him.
>
> Stop taking the fucking cheap shots at drug users! Can't you flame this
> idiot without haughtily insulting millions of other psychedelic users
> you know nothing about?
>
Sorry if I've offended the powerful LSD lobby. I'll wait till you come
down to discuss this further. And speaking of things we know nothing
about, you know nothing about me. Who is Sir Humphry Osmond, by the way?
Sean Carroll wrote:
> John Harshman wrote:
>
>
>>Perhaps in the future you could limit your postings to
>>alt.drugs.psychedelics, since you seem to be tripping here.
>
>
> DALE KELLY IS NOT A TYPICAL PSYCHEDELIC USER, GODDAMMIT.
>
> His rants have NOTHING to do with drugs, and everything to do with being
> born without a functioning cerebral cortex.
>
> You know who else used psychedelic drugs? Richard Feynman, for one. Sir
> Humphry Osmond. Francis Crick was on LSD the night the image of the
> double helix first occurred to him.
>
> Stop taking the fucking cheap shots at drug users! Can't you flame this
> idiot without haughtily insulting millions of other psychedelic users
> you know nothing about?
>
Sorry if I've offended the powerful LSD lobby. I'll wait till you come
down to discuss this further. And speaking of things we know nothing
about, you know nothing about me. Who is Sir Humphry Osmond, by the way?
Re: a challenge to evolution punks
John Harshman wrote:
> Sean Carroll wrote:
>>You know who else used psychedelic drugs? Richard Feynman, for one. Sir
>>Humphry Osmond. Francis Crick was on LSD the night the image of the
>>double helix first occurred to him.
>>
>>Stop taking the fucking cheap shots at drug users! Can't you flame this
>>idiot without haughtily insulting millions of other psychedelic users
>>you know nothing about?
> Sorry if I've offended the powerful LSD lobby.
If it were a powerful lobby, such ignorant attitudes as yours wouldn't
be so widespread.
> I'll wait till you come down to discuss this further.
Oh, snap! You really burned me there. *rolls eyes*
> And speaking of things we know nothing
> about, you know nothing about me.
Which is why I didn't say anything about you.
> Who is Sir Humphry Osmond, by the way?
Um, among many other things, director of the Bureau of Research in
Neurology and Psychiatry at the New Jersey Psychiatric Institute in
Princeton.
Many highly respected scientists and very intelligent thinkers have used
psychedelic drugs. These substances do little more than bring your own
inherent thought processes to the surface. If you're a raving lunatic
who believes in faeries, they can make you a bigger raving lunatic who
actually *sees* faeries. If you're a balanced, intelligent individual
with curiosity about the world and well-rooted rational thought
processes, on the other hand, they can induce powerful creative insight
and deeper understanding of the world. People like Dale Kelly are no
more representative of all psychedelic users than Dick Cheney is typical
of white men.
Cheap, low-brow, narrow-minded, mean-spirited mockery directed at a
population that probably includes, without your knowledge, many people
you know and respect, as it includes millions of other people from all
walks of life and with all different sorts of personalities and levels
of intelligence, does not prove you are better than them. Quite the
opposite.
--
--Sean
http :// spclsd223.livejournal,com /
'What else turns you on? Drugs? Casual sex? Rough sex? ... Casual rough
sex? I'm a doctor, I need to know.' --Dr Gregory House
John Harshman wrote:
> Sean Carroll wrote:
>>You know who else used psychedelic drugs? Richard Feynman, for one. Sir
>>Humphry Osmond. Francis Crick was on LSD the night the image of the
>>double helix first occurred to him.
>>
>>Stop taking the fucking cheap shots at drug users! Can't you flame this
>>idiot without haughtily insulting millions of other psychedelic users
>>you know nothing about?
> Sorry if I've offended the powerful LSD lobby.
If it were a powerful lobby, such ignorant attitudes as yours wouldn't
be so widespread.
> I'll wait till you come down to discuss this further.
Oh, snap! You really burned me there. *rolls eyes*
> And speaking of things we know nothing
> about, you know nothing about me.
Which is why I didn't say anything about you.
> Who is Sir Humphry Osmond, by the way?
Um, among many other things, director of the Bureau of Research in
Neurology and Psychiatry at the New Jersey Psychiatric Institute in
Princeton.
Many highly respected scientists and very intelligent thinkers have used
psychedelic drugs. These substances do little more than bring your own
inherent thought processes to the surface. If you're a raving lunatic
who believes in faeries, they can make you a bigger raving lunatic who
actually *sees* faeries. If you're a balanced, intelligent individual
with curiosity about the world and well-rooted rational thought
processes, on the other hand, they can induce powerful creative insight
and deeper understanding of the world. People like Dale Kelly are no
more representative of all psychedelic users than Dick Cheney is typical
of white men.
Cheap, low-brow, narrow-minded, mean-spirited mockery directed at a
population that probably includes, without your knowledge, many people
you know and respect, as it includes millions of other people from all
walks of life and with all different sorts of personalities and levels
of intelligence, does not prove you are better than them. Quite the
opposite.
--
--Sean
http :// spclsd223.livejournal,com /
'What else turns you on? Drugs? Casual sex? Rough sex? ... Casual rough
sex? I'm a doctor, I need to know.' --Dr Gregory House
Re: a challenge to evolution punks
Sean Carroll wrote:
> John Harshman wrote:
>
>>Sean Carroll wrote:
>
>
>>>You know who else used psychedelic drugs? Richard Feynman, for one. Sir
>>>Humphry Osmond. Francis Crick was on LSD the night the image of the
>>>double helix first occurred to him.
>>>
>>>Stop taking the fucking cheap shots at drug users! Can't you flame this
>>>idiot without haughtily insulting millions of other psychedelic users
>>>you know nothing about?
>
>
>>Sorry if I've offended the powerful LSD lobby.
>
>
> If it were a powerful lobby, such ignorant attitudes as yours wouldn't
> be so widespread.
>
>
>>I'll wait till you come down to discuss this further.
>
>
> Oh, snap! You really burned me there. *rolls eyes*
>
>
>>And speaking of things we know nothing
>>about, you know nothing about me.
>
>
> Which is why I didn't say anything about you.
Yes you did. You assumed I was ignorant based on one little cheap shot.
Chill.
I think all the talk about the great spiritual/creative benefits of
psychedelic drugs is nonsense, but never mind. Don't make the assumption
I'm unfamiliar with them either.
Sean Carroll wrote:
> John Harshman wrote:
>
>>Sean Carroll wrote:
>
>
>>>You know who else used psychedelic drugs? Richard Feynman, for one. Sir
>>>Humphry Osmond. Francis Crick was on LSD the night the image of the
>>>double helix first occurred to him.
>>>
>>>Stop taking the fucking cheap shots at drug users! Can't you flame this
>>>idiot without haughtily insulting millions of other psychedelic users
>>>you know nothing about?
>
>
>>Sorry if I've offended the powerful LSD lobby.
>
>
> If it were a powerful lobby, such ignorant attitudes as yours wouldn't
> be so widespread.
>
>
>>I'll wait till you come down to discuss this further.
>
>
> Oh, snap! You really burned me there. *rolls eyes*
>
>
>>And speaking of things we know nothing
>>about, you know nothing about me.
>
>
> Which is why I didn't say anything about you.
Yes you did. You assumed I was ignorant based on one little cheap shot.
Chill.
I think all the talk about the great spiritual/creative benefits of
psychedelic drugs is nonsense, but never mind. Don't make the assumption
I'm unfamiliar with them either.
Re: a challenge to evolution punks
John Harshman wrote:
> Sorry if I've offended the powerful LSD lobby.
Based upon government statistics, there are more people in the U.S.
who have used hallucinogens or LSD in their lifetime
than there are gay or black people.
So it is amusing but not entirely farfetched to imagine a political bloc.
Then again, being black or gay is no longer a felony
in most states, so it is a bit easier for these groups to speak out
against political oppression and prejudice.
http :// www .oas.samhsa.gov/NSDUH/2k5NSDUH/tabs/Sect1peTabs1to66.htm#Tab1.12B
Harvard Professor Stephen Jay Gould, author of many books
on science and evolution, including his massive 1400-page opus
"The Structure of Evolutionary Theory," was a signatory to a
1998 advertisement in the New York Times, which took two full pages
to appeal for a new international drug policy.
"We believe the global war on drugs is now causing more harm
than drug abuse itself," the ad claimed.
Other signatories to the ad included Walter Cronkite, former US Surgeon
General Joycelyn Elders, former Attorney General Nicholas Katzenbach, former
Secretary of State George Shultz, Mayor Willie Brown of San Francisco, Mayor
Kurt Schmoke of Baltimore, Mayor Susan Hammer of San Jose, Milton Friedman,
and a variety of judges, police, academics and other prominent citizens.
John Harshman wrote:
> Sorry if I've offended the powerful LSD lobby.
Based upon government statistics, there are more people in the U.S.
who have used hallucinogens or LSD in their lifetime
than there are gay or black people.
So it is amusing but not entirely farfetched to imagine a political bloc.
Then again, being black or gay is no longer a felony
in most states, so it is a bit easier for these groups to speak out
against political oppression and prejudice.
http :// www .oas.samhsa.gov/NSDUH/2k5NSDUH/tabs/Sect1peTabs1to66.htm#Tab1.12B
Harvard Professor Stephen Jay Gould, author of many books
on science and evolution, including his massive 1400-page opus
"The Structure of Evolutionary Theory," was a signatory to a
1998 advertisement in the New York Times, which took two full pages
to appeal for a new international drug policy.
"We believe the global war on drugs is now causing more harm
than drug abuse itself," the ad claimed.
Other signatories to the ad included Walter Cronkite, former US Surgeon
General Joycelyn Elders, former Attorney General Nicholas Katzenbach, former
Secretary of State George Shultz, Mayor Willie Brown of San Francisco, Mayor
Kurt Schmoke of Baltimore, Mayor Susan Hammer of San Jose, Milton Friedman,
and a variety of judges, police, academics and other prominent citizens.
Re: a challenge to evolution punks
On Wed, 25 Apr 2007 16:56:42 -0400, Sean Carroll
<seanc130@hotmail,com > wrote:
>John Harshman wrote:
>
>> Perhaps in the future you could limit your postings to
>> alt.drugs.psychedelics, since you seem to be tripping here.
>
>DALE KELLY IS NOT A TYPICAL PSYCHEDELIC USER, GODDAMMIT.
Are the typical ones as excitable as you?
>His rants have NOTHING to do with drugs, and everything to do with being
>born without a functioning cerebral cortex.
Where'd you get your Usenet Psychology degree?
>You know who else used psychedelic drugs? Richard Feynman, for one. Sir
>Humphry Osmond. Francis Crick was on LSD the night the image of the
>double helix first occurred to him.
>
>Stop taking the fucking cheap shots at drug users! Can't you flame this
>idiot without haughtily insulting millions of other psychedelic users
>you know nothing about?
Apparently not if they're all like you.
CT
On Wed, 25 Apr 2007 16:56:42 -0400, Sean Carroll
<seanc130@hotmail,com > wrote:
>John Harshman wrote:
>
>> Perhaps in the future you could limit your postings to
>> alt.drugs.psychedelics, since you seem to be tripping here.
>
>DALE KELLY IS NOT A TYPICAL PSYCHEDELIC USER, GODDAMMIT.
Are the typical ones as excitable as you?
>His rants have NOTHING to do with drugs, and everything to do with being
>born without a functioning cerebral cortex.
Where'd you get your Usenet Psychology degree?
>You know who else used psychedelic drugs? Richard Feynman, for one. Sir
>Humphry Osmond. Francis Crick was on LSD the night the image of the
>double helix first occurred to him.
>
>Stop taking the fucking cheap shots at drug users! Can't you flame this
>idiot without haughtily insulting millions of other psychedelic users
>you know nothing about?
Apparently not if they're all like you.
CT
Re: a challenge to evolution punks
CreateThis wrote:
> Sean Carroll <seanc130@hotmail,com > wrote:
>>DALE KELLY IS NOT A TYPICAL PSYCHEDELIC USER, GODDAMMIT.
> Are the typical ones as excitable as you?
No. I'm excitable by nature.
> Where'd you get your Usenet Psychology degree?
Um ... the name pretty much implies I got it from Usenet.
>>Stop taking the fucking cheap shots at drug users! Can't you flame this
>>idiot without haughtily insulting millions of other psychedelic users
>>you know nothing about?
> Apparently not if they're all like you.
Ooh! Burn! I will now go curl up in the corner and pee on myself,
sobbing hysterically over how poorly you think of me.
--
--Sean
http :// spclsd223.livejournal,com /
'What else turns you on? Drugs? Casual sex? Rough sex? ... Casual rough
sex? I'm a doctor, I need to know.' --Dr Gregory House
CreateThis wrote:
> Sean Carroll <seanc130@hotmail,com > wrote:
>>DALE KELLY IS NOT A TYPICAL PSYCHEDELIC USER, GODDAMMIT.
> Are the typical ones as excitable as you?
No. I'm excitable by nature.
> Where'd you get your Usenet Psychology degree?
Um ... the name pretty much implies I got it from Usenet.
>>Stop taking the fucking cheap shots at drug users! Can't you flame this
>>idiot without haughtily insulting millions of other psychedelic users
>>you know nothing about?
> Apparently not if they're all like you.
Ooh! Burn! I will now go curl up in the corner and pee on myself,
sobbing hysterically over how poorly you think of me.
--
--Sean
http :// spclsd223.livejournal,com /
'What else turns you on? Drugs? Casual sex? Rough sex? ... Casual rough
sex? I'm a doctor, I need to know.' --Dr Gregory House
Re: a challenge to evolution punks
On Wed, 25 Apr 2007 22:43:45 -0400, Sean Carroll
<seanc130@hotmail,com > wrote:
>CreateThis wrote:
>> Sean Carroll <seanc130@hotmail,com > wrote:
>
>>>DALE KELLY IS NOT A TYPICAL PSYCHEDELIC USER, GODDAMMIT.
>
>> Are the typical ones as excitable as you?
>
>No. I'm excitable by nature.
>
>> Where'd you get your Usenet Psychology degree?
>
>Um ... the name pretty much implies I got it from Usenet.
>
>>>Stop taking the fucking cheap shots at drug users! Can't you flame this
>>>idiot without haughtily insulting millions of other psychedelic users
>>>you know nothing about?
>
>> Apparently not if they're all like you.
>
>Ooh! Burn! I will now go curl up in the corner and pee on myself,
>sobbing hysterically over how poorly you think of me.
I get it. You're imitating the comic book store guy on The Simpsons,
aren't you?
<describes facial expression>
CT
On Wed, 25 Apr 2007 22:43:45 -0400, Sean Carroll
<seanc130@hotmail,com > wrote:
>CreateThis wrote:
>> Sean Carroll <seanc130@hotmail,com > wrote:
>
>>>DALE KELLY IS NOT A TYPICAL PSYCHEDELIC USER, GODDAMMIT.
>
>> Are the typical ones as excitable as you?
>
>No. I'm excitable by nature.
>
>> Where'd you get your Usenet Psychology degree?
>
>Um ... the name pretty much implies I got it from Usenet.
>
>>>Stop taking the fucking cheap shots at drug users! Can't you flame this
>>>idiot without haughtily insulting millions of other psychedelic users
>>>you know nothing about?
>
>> Apparently not if they're all like you.
>
>Ooh! Burn! I will now go curl up in the corner and pee on myself,
>sobbing hysterically over how poorly you think of me.
I get it. You're imitating the comic book store guy on The Simpsons,
aren't you?
<describes facial expression>
CT
Re: a challenge to evolution punks
Sean Carroll wrote:
> You know who else used psychedelic drugs? Richard Feynman, for one. Sir
> Humphry Osmond. Francis Crick was on LSD the night the image of the
> double helix first occurred to him.
Also Dr. Douglas C. Engelbart, inventor of the mouse, and
Dr. Kary Mullis, Nobel-Prize winner for the polymerase chain reaction.
http :// www .wired,com /science/discoveries/news/2006/01/70015
And a few notable businessmen:
* Bill Gates (interview in the December 1994 Playboy)
* Sir Richard Branson (in his Autobiography Losing My Virginity)
* Steve Jobs of Apple Computer describes taking LSD as
"one of the two or three most important things he has done in his life"
(in John Markoff's 2005 book, What the Dormouse Said;
also in an interview in Time Magazine)
* Henry Luce, Founder of Time/Life
http :// en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_notable_psychedelic_self-experimenters
Sean Carroll wrote:
> You know who else used psychedelic drugs? Richard Feynman, for one. Sir
> Humphry Osmond. Francis Crick was on LSD the night the image of the
> double helix first occurred to him.
Also Dr. Douglas C. Engelbart, inventor of the mouse, and
Dr. Kary Mullis, Nobel-Prize winner for the polymerase chain reaction.
http :// www .wired,com /science/discoveries/news/2006/01/70015
And a few notable businessmen:
* Bill Gates (interview in the December 1994 Playboy)
* Sir Richard Branson (in his Autobiography Losing My Virginity)
* Steve Jobs of Apple Computer describes taking LSD as
"one of the two or three most important things he has done in his life"
(in John Markoff's 2005 book, What the Dormouse Said;
also in an interview in Time Magazine)
* Henry Luce, Founder of Time/Life
http :// en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_notable_psychedelic_self-experimenters
Re: a challenge to evolution punks
On Apr 29, 12:10 am, "Quincy" <a...@ymous,com .invalid> wrote:
> Sean Carroll wrote:
> > You know who else used psychedelic drugs?
>
> * Bill Gates (interview in the December 1994 Playboy)
(snip)
> * Steve Jobs of Apple Computer describes taking LSD as
> "one of the two or three most important things he has done in his life"
> (in John Markoff's 2005 book, What the Dormouse Said;
> also in an interview in Time Magazine)
So Bill Gates and Steve Jobs did basically the same thing, but Jobs
interpreted it as a spiritual event with (to outside observers) a
distinctly narcissistic, self-righteous twist?
Louann, just saying.
On Apr 29, 12:10 am, "Quincy" <a...@ymous,com .invalid> wrote:
> Sean Carroll wrote:
> > You know who else used psychedelic drugs?
>
> * Bill Gates (interview in the December 1994 Playboy)
(snip)
> * Steve Jobs of Apple Computer describes taking LSD as
> "one of the two or three most important things he has done in his life"
> (in John Markoff's 2005 book, What the Dormouse Said;
> also in an interview in Time Magazine)
So Bill Gates and Steve Jobs did basically the same thing, but Jobs
interpreted it as a spiritual event with (to outside observers) a
distinctly narcissistic, self-righteous twist?
Louann, just saying.
Re: a challenge to evolution punks
louann_m@yahoo,com wrote:
> So Bill Gates and Steve Jobs did basically the same thing, but Jobs
> interpreted it as a spiritual event with (to outside observers) a
> distinctly narcissistic, self-righteous twist?
ROFL, are you talking about this video clip
from "Pirates of Silicon Valley"?
http :// www .youtube,com /watch?v=5EIu21QPQMc
I would say that Steve Jobs' innate narcissism was
simply reaffirmed and reinforced,
and Bill Gates' innate paranoia was confirmed
that the universe was truly out to get him
as he had long suspected.
Excerpt from Gates Playboy interview:
"PLAYBOY: Ever take LSD?
GATES: My errant youth ended a long time ago.
PLAYBOY: What does that mean?
GATES: That means there were things I did under the age of 25 that I ended
up not doing subsequently.
PLAYBOY: One LSD story involved you staring at a table and thinking the
corner was going to plunge into your eye.
GATES: [Smiles]
PLAYBOY: Ah, a glimmer of recognition.
GATES: That was on the other side of that boundary. The young mind can deal
with certain kinds of gooping around that I don't think at this age I could.
I don't think you're as capable of handling lack of sleep or whatever
challenges you throw at your body as you get older. However, I never missed
a day of work. "
-----------
A longtime regular contributor to alt.drugs.psychedelics
was Microsoft employee number nine and inventor of the
term "shareware":
http :// en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bob_Wallace
louann_m@yahoo,com wrote:
> So Bill Gates and Steve Jobs did basically the same thing, but Jobs
> interpreted it as a spiritual event with (to outside observers) a
> distinctly narcissistic, self-righteous twist?
ROFL, are you talking about this video clip
from "Pirates of Silicon Valley"?
http :// www .youtube,com /watch?v=5EIu21QPQMc
I would say that Steve Jobs' innate narcissism was
simply reaffirmed and reinforced,
and Bill Gates' innate paranoia was confirmed
that the universe was truly out to get him
as he had long suspected.
Excerpt from Gates Playboy interview:
"PLAYBOY: Ever take LSD?
GATES: My errant youth ended a long time ago.
PLAYBOY: What does that mean?
GATES: That means there were things I did under the age of 25 that I ended
up not doing subsequently.
PLAYBOY: One LSD story involved you staring at a table and thinking the
corner was going to plunge into your eye.
GATES: [Smiles]
PLAYBOY: Ah, a glimmer of recognition.
GATES: That was on the other side of that boundary. The young mind can deal
with certain kinds of gooping around that I don't think at this age I could.
I don't think you're as capable of handling lack of sleep or whatever
challenges you throw at your body as you get older. However, I never missed
a day of work. "
-----------
A longtime regular contributor to alt.drugs.psychedelics
was Microsoft employee number nine and inventor of the
term "shareware":
http :// en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bob_Wallace
Re: a challenge to evolution punks
Dale Kelly wrote:
> the modern definition of life is emergent behavior
>
> even plants with no minds or free will are considered to be alive, just
> because they have emergent behavior
>
> emergent behavior in consciousness depends on the mysterious intermediary
> called the subconscious
>
> we do not communicate directly with the central nervous system, we
> supposedly use an intermediary, the mysterious subconscious
>
> I suggest there is more proof of God as an intermediary than there is of
> a mysterious subconscious
>
> more so, I suggest that when we will our bodies to act, they act with an
> intermediary of God, not the subconscious
>
> provide proof of the subconscious or shut up, evolution punks
>
>
By the way, what does this have to do with evolution?
Dale Kelly wrote:
> the modern definition of life is emergent behavior
>
> even plants with no minds or free will are considered to be alive, just
> because they have emergent behavior
>
> emergent behavior in consciousness depends on the mysterious intermediary
> called the subconscious
>
> we do not communicate directly with the central nervous system, we
> supposedly use an intermediary, the mysterious subconscious
>
> I suggest there is more proof of God as an intermediary than there is of
> a mysterious subconscious
>
> more so, I suggest that when we will our bodies to act, they act with an
> intermediary of God, not the subconscious
>
> provide proof of the subconscious or shut up, evolution punks
>
>
By the way, what does this have to do with evolution?
Re: a challenge to evolution punks
Dale Kelly <dale.kelly@comcast,net > wrote in
news:pan.2007.04.24.02.28.15@comcast,net :
> more so, I suggest that when we will our bodies to act, they act with
> an intermediary of God, not the subconscious
What did I just tell you about making shit up instead of admitting you have
no idea, bitch?
Dale Kelly <dale.kelly@comcast,net > wrote in
news:pan.2007.04.24.02.28.15@comcast,net :
> more so, I suggest that when we will our bodies to act, they act with
> an intermediary of God, not the subconscious
What did I just tell you about making shit up instead of admitting you have
no idea, bitch?
Re: a challenge to evolution punks
On Apr 23, 9:54 pm, Lee Oswald Ving <leeov...@yahoo,com > wrote:
> Dale Kelly <dale.ke...@comcast,net > wrote
> What did I just tell you about making shit up instead of admitting you have
> no idea, bitch?
I beg your pardon? I am a bitch. Kelly is nowhere near that rank.
On Apr 23, 9:54 pm, Lee Oswald Ving <leeov...@yahoo,com > wrote:
> Dale Kelly <dale.ke...@comcast,net > wrote
> What did I just tell you about making shit up instead of admitting you have
> no idea, bitch?
I beg your pardon? I am a bitch. Kelly is nowhere near that rank.
