A-delta excitation is the most civilized and non-barbaric form of execution

Re: A-delta excitation is the most civilized and non-barbaric form of execution

<mkorneck@nd.edu> wrote
>> A shot to the skull is boring and there is too much mess.
> Boring? Too much mess? Those are contradictory descriptions.

and so wrong as to indicate a total lack of coherent thought on the subject.
Shooting people in the head hardly ever gets 'boring'; and there isn't much
of a mess from a jacketed hardball round- they drill right through.

>> Moreover there are many cases of headshot victims surviving and regain
>> consciousness only to live paralyzed, blind, deaf, and with major
>> headaches.
> 100% of the of people executed by nano-bot electrocution survive,
> living lives with no adverse side effects.

He's using stats from botched suicides and random battlefield wounds- damned
few executions by headshot, as in China, survive.

Chas

Re: A-delta excitation is the most civilized and non-barbaric form of execution

On Feb 17, 10:21 am, mkorn...@nd.edu wrote:
> > A shot to the skull is boring and there is too much mess.
>
> Boring? Too much mess? Those are contradictory descriptions.
>
> > Moreover there are many cases of headshot victims surviving and regain
> > consciousness only to live paralyzed, blind, deaf, and with major
> > headaches.
Even though this is a deeply retarded conversation, I think the best
method will be Gaseous anaesthetic (no vein, everyone goes under if
you give them a good MAC of halothane) and then decapitation, or
exsanguination.




>


> 100% of the of people executed by nano-bot electrocution survive,
> living lives with no adverse side effects.
>
> > Prior to giving the shock, tiny needles [carry the electric nanobots]
> > are inserted into the abdomen until they reach the the stomach. The
> > nanobots they attach to the A-delta fibers supply the stomach. Then
> > EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEELECTRIC
> > SHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHOCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>
> > Then suddenly, death
>
> Sounds pretty damn boring...
>
> -Mike K.

Re: A-delta excitation is the most civilized and non-barbaric form of execution

Scary wrote:

> On Feb 16, 12:11 pm, "Radium" <gluceg...@excite,com > wrote:
>
>>On Feb 15, 5:03 pm, "Mike" <mkorn...@nd.edu> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Nanobots?
>>
>>>-Mike K.
>>
>>Yes. Shock-delivering nanobots.
>
>
> Isn't that rather an elaborate way to kill someone? And expensive!
> One would think a bullet to the back of the head would be quite quick
> enough.
> Anyway isn't the ideal of nanobots that they be used to heal people.
>
> Scary.
>
Good point about the nanobots- and the bullet- I think should go in the
front, not the back- so they can
'visualize' it

Mark

Re: A-delta excitation is the most civilized and non-barbaric form of execution

"Radium" <glucegen1@excite,com > writes:

> Hi:
>
> I would like to add this topic on execution. I think a-delta
> excitation is the most civilized form of execution.

It doesn't matter one f**king iota. Leave a guy waiting for his death
for long enough and he'll go crazy. It's the anticipation of imminent
doom that's terrible, not the doom itself.
--
BOFH excuse #133:

It's not plugged in.

Re: A-delta excitation is the most civilized and non-barbaric form of execution

Radium wrote:

> Hi:
>
> I would like to add this topic on execution. I think a-delta
> excitation is the most civilized form of execution.

> No mechanical injury, no bleeding, no burning, no dehydration, no
> infection. Just A-delta induced shock.

I think execution shouldn't rely on being 'civilized' but rather on
'finality'.


for instance- the guys who cut off heads- ought to squirt a bit and
bathe in their own juices, before they go to that great big brothel full
of whores and boys they covet.

mark

Brain Implants + Head mounted Lasers

On Feb 16, 7:00 am, "Radium" <gluceg...@excite,com > wrote:
> Hi:
>
> I would like to add this topic on execution. I think a-delta
> excitation is the most civilized form of execution.
>
> A-delta nerve endings in executionee's stomach are stimulated by a
> large number of extremely low-voltage nanobots [around the same
> voltage used by neurons and receptors themselves --thereby preventing
> any electroporation, increase in temperature, irritation,
> inflammation, or immune response] ; this process does not cause any
> actual direct injury. The nanoelectrodes are of the exact correct size
> and shape to "fit" the a-delta nerve endings present inside the
> stomach. The amount [number per area] and intensity [extent of
> depolarization] of a-delta excitation is just small enough there is no
> amount of damage/injury to those nerves or any sensory overload at
> all. The death results from the neurocirculatory effects of
> excruciating sharp gastric pain. Death can ensue in less than 10
> seconds due to neurogenic shock caused by the sharp pain. There is no
> actual mechanical injury to the body -- at all -- but the pain itself
> does the execution by dangerously-altering the signals of the
> circulatory nervous system.
>
> No mechanical injury, no bleeding, no burning, no dehydration, no
> infection. Just A-delta induced shock.
>
> A-delta induced shock results in the following:
>
> 1. Force of the heart muscles' contractions decrease significantly [no
> pulse/heartbeat can be felt; EKG needed to detect heartbeat]
> 2. Heart rate decreases dramatically [heart rate drops to around 20
> beats per minute in approximately 5 seconds]
> 3. General increase in the heart muscles' relaxability
> 4. Blood vessels throughout the body widen to total dilation
>
> The above 4 alone are lethal due to the extent at which they occur --
> causing a dangerous drop in blood pressure. Put together, the
> resulting hypotension means certain death. Vital organs are deprived
> of blood leading to multiple-organ-failure. This can rapidly kill the
> individual.
>
> NOTE: While this a-delta stimulation may seem inhumane, it really
> isn't, because the executionee will pass out in around 3 seconds due
> to extreme hypotension. Therefore the perception of pain doesn't last
> long enough to cause the executionee any suffering. In addition,
> massive a-delta excitation causes the brain to release lots of
> endorphins -- this is why seriously-injured individuals enter a state
> where they are numb to pain and seem relaxed.
>
> A-delta-fiber nociception far more likely to cause shock than C-fiber
> nociception of the same intensity because A-delta nociception results
> in sharp "pulling, "stabbing" or "cracking" pain [such as an injury to
> the periosteum of the sternum] whereas C-fiber nociception results in
> a more dull, irritating, itching/aching sort of pain [such as a
> mosquito bite].
>
> C-fiber nociception rarely -- if ever -- causes shock.
>
> The sensation induced by A-delta fiber stimulation would have a much
> greater affect on neurocirculatory reflexes than that of C-fiber
> stimulation of the same amount and intensity.
>
> http :// courses.washington.edu/conj/sensory/pain.htm
>
> Quotes from the above site:
>
> "An A-delta fiber responds to either mechanical stimuli or temperature
> stimuli in the painful realm and produces the acute sensation of
> sharp, bright pain."
>
> "By contrast, a C fiber can respond to a broad range of painful
> stimuli, including mechanical, thermal or metabolic factors. The pain
> produced is slow, burning, and long lasting."
>
> Any questions/comments are welcome
>
> Thanks,
>
> Radium

check out this shit!

http :// www .skewsme,com /implants.html

Is that freaky or what!

Re: Brain Implants + Head mounted Lasers

On Feb 18, 9:07 pm, "Scary" <modelmak...@msn,com > wrote:
> check out this shit!
>
> http :// www .skewsme,com /implants.html
>
> Is that freaky or what!

Interesting!

Re: Brain Implants + Head mounted Lasers

Scary wrote:

<snip>

> check out this shit!
>
> http :// www .skewsme,com /implants.html
>
> Is that freaky or what!

Freaky?

Not exactly.

Since the article, a huge amount of research has been done in
the field of neural prosthetics.

It's called "science."

--
Notan

Re: Brain Implants + Head mounted Lasers

On Feb 19, 4:16 pm, Notan <notan@ddressthatcanbespammed> wrote:
> Scary wrote:
>
> <snip>
>
> > check out this shit!
>
> > http :// www .skewsme,com /implants.html
>
> > Is that freaky or what!
>
> Freaky?
>
> Not exactly.
>
> Since the article, a huge amount of research has been done in
> the field of neural prosthetics.
>
> It's called "science."
>
> --
> Notan

Science is science, but how that science is utilized can be freaky

Remote controled animals are freaky, the potential to have hoards of
animal minions to do ones evil biding is every evil scientists dream!
And then there's that whole Orwellian type thing about putting
controlling devices into people's heads.

Re: Brain Implants + Head mounted Lasers

Scary wrote:
> On Feb 19, 4:16 pm, Notan <notan@ddressthatcanbespammed> wrote:
>> Scary wrote:
>>
>> <snip>
>>
>>> check out this shit!
>>> http :// www .skewsme,com /implants.html
>>> Is that freaky or what!
>> Freaky?
>>
>> Not exactly.
>>
>> Since the article, a huge amount of research has been done in
>> the field of neural prosthetics.
>>
>> It's called "science."
>>
>> --
>> Notan
>
> Science is science, but how that science is utilized can be freaky
>
> Remote controled animals are freaky, the potential to have hoards of
> animal minions to do ones evil biding is every evil scientists dream!
> And then there's that whole Orwellian type thing about putting
> controlling devices into people's heads.

You need to read less fiction and more non-fiction.

How 'bout the idea that the human brain can control a bioprosthetic limb?

Not so freaky.

--
Notan

Re: Brain Implants + Head mounted Lasers

On Feb 19, 4:48 pm, Notan <notan@ddressthatcanbespammed> wrote:
> Scary wrote:
> > On Feb 19, 4:16 pm, Notan <notan@ddressthatcanbespammed> wrote:
> >> Scary wrote:
>
> >> <snip>
>
> >>> check out this shit!
> >>> http :// www .skewsme,com /implants.html
> >>> Is that freaky or what!
> >> Freaky?
>
> >> Not exactly.
>
> >> Since the article, a huge amount of research has been done in
> >> the field of neural prosthetics.
>
> >> It's called "science."
>
> >> --
> >> Notan
>
> > Science is science, but how that science is utilized can be freaky
>
> > Remote controled animals are freaky, the potential to have hoards of
> > animal minions to do ones evil biding is every evil scientists dream!
> > And then there's that whole Orwellian type thing about putting
> > controlling devices into people's heads.
>
> You need to read less fiction and more non-fiction.
>
> How 'bout the idea that the human brain can control a bioprosthetic limb?

Many of the scientific advances of the past hundred years were first
theorized in works of fiction, Jules Verne theorized about submarines
and H.G Wells theorized about strategic bombing!
That was 100 years ago.

The fact that in that article that a guy can stop a bull from charging
with a remote control, prompts the question "Why not implant these
devices into violent criminals, then possibly dissidents and so
forth".
A devise that is controlled by the brain is one thing, a devise the
actually controls behavior is another thing entirely! That has a whole
lot of ethical issues attached to it.
A Clockwork Orange is fiction, but the issue behind that book - film
with this technology seems like it could be a possibility.

Did Einstein think about the A-boob when he published his theorys?
Other people used his work to make a very nasty weapon, he might have
been thinking only of advancing science but then human nature has a
way of twisting science it it's own desires
In 1944 they thought the A-bomb might detonate the atmosphere, the
still went ahead and tested it. The point is that with any scientific
advance exists the fact that it can't be un-invented and someone, some
place will always use it in ways might not be ethical.
I'm not saying don't advance science, only stating that you cant
control how these things are going to be used.
I'm only making an observation re: human nature.