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The vaccinate your kid or else approach in Maryland is it all about the money?

Reply from: bigvince
Date: 20 Nov 2007, 20:56
The vaccinate your kid or else approach in Maryland is it all about the money?

* sayingnotovaccines.blogspot . com /2007/11/mandatory-vaccines-in-maryland-really.html

Tuesday, November 20, 2007
Mandatory Vaccination in Maryland REALLY IS about Money
(from Dawn Richardson at PROVE (w w w .vaccineinfo . net )

What could possibly be behind these forced vaccination? There are
several factors that could be at play, but the primary suspicion that
stands out in my mind is money. So I called the communications
department of the Prince George's County School District to ask them
specifically some questions about the amount of money the school
district gets paid per child per day. They have not returned my call
to answer the questions. Thankfully, the National Center for Education
Statistics has some great information about Prince George's County
Public Schools online available to the public to anyone with an
internet connection! ( * nces.ed.gov/)

According to this government website, in the 2006-2007 school year,
Prince George's County Public Schools received $11,325 per student per
year! That is more than I pay for my kid's private school tuition! The
breakdown was 7% from federal money or $780, 46% from the state at
$5246, and 47% from local revenue at $5298. Assuming a typical 180 day
school year, that comes out to $63 per child per day of school
attended.

Why is this important information? If the Washington Post article is
correct when they said that 2300 kids are being barred from school,
all of a sudden $63 per student per day turns into a astronomical loss
of $144,900 PER DAY for the school district. That would light a fire
under anyone's backside to stop that hemorrhaging of loss of income,
but it does not justify the way these families are being
treated..........more at link

Seems likely the two vaccines in question here are hep b and
chickenpox heb b is almost impossible to spread in a school setting
and chickenpox.......

Thanks Vince

Reply from: drceephd@insightbb . com
Date: 20 Nov 2007, 21:56
Re: The vaccinate your kid or else approach in Maryland is it all about the money?

On Nov 20, 2:56 pm, bigvince <Vince.Mirag...@gmail . com > wrote:
> * sayingnotovaccines.blogspot . com /2007/11/mandatory-vaccines-in-...
>
> Tuesday, November 20, 2007
> Mandatory Vaccination in Maryland REALLY IS about Money
> (from Dawn Richardson at PROVE (w w w .vaccineinfo . net )
>
> What could possibly be behind these forced vaccination? There are
> several factors that could be at play, but the primary suspicion that
> stands out in my mind is money. So I called the communications
> department of the Prince George's County School District to ask them
> specifically some questions about the amount of money the school
> district gets paid per child per day. They have not returned my call
> to answer the questions. Thankfully, the National Center for Education
> Statistics has some great information about Prince George's County
> Public Schools online available to the public to anyone with an
> internet connection! ( * nces.ed.gov/)
>
> According to this government website, in the 2006-2007 school year,
> Prince George's County Public Schools received $11,325 per student per
> year! That is more than I pay for my kid's private school tuition! The
> breakdown was 7% from federal money or $780, 46% from the state at
> $5246, and 47% from local revenue at $5298. Assuming a typical 180 day
> school year, that comes out to $63 per child per day of school
> attended.
>
> Why is this important information? If the Washington Post article is
> correct when they said that 2300 kids are being barred from school,
> all of a sudden $63 per student per day turns into a astronomical loss
> of $144,900 PER DAY for the school district. That would light a fire
> under anyone's backside to stop that hemorrhaging of loss of income,
> but it does not justify the way these families are being
> treated..........more at link
>
> Seems likely the two vaccines in question here are hep b and
> chickenpox heb b is almost impossible to spread in a school setting
> and chickenpox.......
>
> Thanks Vince

Nice detective work Vince.

Thank you.

DrCee

Reply from: Yuri Kuchinsky
Date: 20 Nov 2007, 23:54
Re: The vaccinate your kid or else approach in Maryland is it all about the money?


<drceephd@insightbb . com > wrote in message
news:6bce3e0e-52fd-4dad-a1c4-fc424f348148@d50g2000hsf.googlegroups . com ...
> On Nov 20, 2:56 pm, bigvince <Vince.Mirag...@gmail . com > wrote:
>> * sayingnotovaccines.blogspot . com /2007/11/mandatory-vaccines-in-...
>>
>> Tuesday, November 20, 2007
>> Mandatory Vaccination in Maryland REALLY IS about Money
>> (from Dawn Richardson at PROVE (w w w .vaccineinfo . net )
>>
>> What could possibly be behind these forced vaccination? There are
>> several factors that could be at play, but the primary suspicion that
>> stands out in my mind is money. So I called the communications
>> department of the Prince George's County School District to ask them
>> specifically some questions about the amount of money the school
>> district gets paid per child per day. They have not returned my call
>> to answer the questions. Thankfully, the National Center for Education
>> Statistics has some great information about Prince George's County
>> Public Schools online available to the public to anyone with an
>> internet connection! ( * nces.ed.gov/)
>>
>> According to this government website, in the 2006-2007 school year,
>> Prince George's County Public Schools received $11,325 per student per
>> year! That is more than I pay for my kid's private school tuition! The
>> breakdown was 7% from federal money or $780, 46% from the state at
>> $5246, and 47% from local revenue at $5298. Assuming a typical 180 day
>> school year, that comes out to $63 per child per day of school
>> attended.
>>
>> Why is this important information? If the Washington Post article is
>> correct when they said that 2300 kids are being barred from school,
>> all of a sudden $63 per student per day turns into a astronomical loss
>> of $144,900 PER DAY for the school district. That would light a fire
>> under anyone's backside to stop that hemorrhaging of loss of income,
>> but it does not justify the way these families are being
>> treated..........more at link
>>
>> Seems likely the two vaccines in question here are hep b and
>> chickenpox heb b is almost impossible to spread in a school setting
>> and chickenpox.......
>>
>> Thanks Vince
>
> Nice detective work Vince.
>
> Thank you.
>
> DrCee

Yes, but if this was really the reason for this publicity stunt by the legal
authorities of Prince George's County, then why did the School District ban
the kids from school in the first place?

I've seen the reports that these parents were never informed of their legal
right to avoid vaccination in the first place.

Yuri.

Yuri Kuchinsky -=O=- * w w w .globalserve . net /~yuku

"May as well consult a butcher on the value of vegetarianism as a doctor on
the worth of vaccination." -- George Bernard Shaw



Reply from: drceephd@insightbb . com
Date: 21 Nov 2007, 02:46
Re: The vaccinate your kid or else approach in Maryland is it all about the money?

On Nov 20, 5:54 pm, "Yuri Kuchinsky" <y...@trends.ca> wrote:
> <drcee...@insightbb . com > wrote in message
>
> "May as well consult a butcher on the value of vegetarianism as a doctor on
> the worth of vaccination." -- George Bernard Shaw- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

The question is...who benefits from this farce the most?

The real benefactors will be big pharma putting the scare into parents
to get their kids jabbed.

Maybe the beuracratic principal of the school is either very stupid by
doing this and not properly informing the parents or...someone slipped
the principal a few $bucks to get this into the national news.

My vote would be for beurocratic stupidity and some bribery.

DrCee
Not a pharma shill
Not a member of the medical monopoly
Not a member of the church of modern medicine.

Reply from: Mark Probert
Date: 21 Nov 2007, 14:04
Re: The vaccinate your kid or else approach in Maryland is it all about the money?

drceephd@insightbb . com wrote:
> On Nov 20, 5:54 pm, "Yuri Kuchinsky" <y...@trends.ca> wrote:
>> <drcee...@insightbb . com > wrote in message
>>
>> "May as well consult a butcher on the value of vegetarianism as a doctor on
>> the worth of vaccination." -- George Bernard Shaw- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
>
> The question is...who benefits from this farce the most?

Since you are scientifically illiterate, I will point out that the kids
who do not get these diseases benefit.

Drivel deleted.

Reply from: Yuri Kuchinsky
Date: 22 Nov 2007, 20:02
Re: The vaccinate your kid or else approach in Maryland is it all about the money?


<drceephd@insightbb . com > wrote in message
news:a8eb267c-1ceb-4c60-ba10-09f432eef8cf@e4g2000hsg.googlegroups . com ...
> On Nov 20, 5:54 pm, "Yuri Kuchinsky" <y...@trends.ca> wrote:
>> <drcee...@insightbb . com > wrote in message
>>
>> "May as well consult a butcher on the value of vegetarianism as a doctor
>> on
>> the worth of vaccination." -- George Bernard Shaw- Hide quoted text -

> The question is...who benefits from this farce the most?
>
> The real benefactors will be big pharma putting the scare into parents
> to get their kids jabbed.

Yes, this is probably true.

> Maybe the beuracratic principal of the school is either very stupid by
> doing this and not properly informing the parents or...someone slipped
> the principal a few $bucks to get this into the national news.
>
> My vote would be for beurocratic stupidity and some bribery.
>
> DrCee
> Not a pharma shill
> Not a member of the medical monopoly
> Not a member of the church of modern medicine.

Vaccination movement got started way before there were any big vaccine
manufacturers. So this delusion has very deep roots indeed...

Yuri.

Yuri Kuchinsky -=O=- * w w w .globalserve . net /~yuku

"It has been said that man is a rational animal. All my
life I have been searching for evidence which could
support this." -=- Bertrand Russell




Reply from: Mark Probert
Date: 21 Nov 2007, 14:03
Re: The vaccinate your kid or else approach in Maryland is it all about the money?

Yuri Kuchinsky wrote:
> <drceephd@insightbb . com > wrote in message
> news:6bce3e0e-52fd-4dad-a1c4-fc424f348148@d50g2000hsf.googlegroups . com ...
>> On Nov 20, 2:56 pm, bigvince <Vince.Mirag...@gmail . com > wrote:
>>> * sayingnotovaccines.blogspot . com /2007/11/mandatory-vaccines-in-...
>>>
>>> Tuesday, November 20, 2007
>>> Mandatory Vaccination in Maryland REALLY IS about Money
>>> (from Dawn Richardson at PROVE (w w w .vaccineinfo . net )
>>>
>>> What could possibly be behind these forced vaccination? There are
>>> several factors that could be at play, but the primary suspicion that
>>> stands out in my mind is money. So I called the communications
>>> department of the Prince George's County School District to ask them
>>> specifically some questions about the amount of money the school
>>> district gets paid per child per day. They have not returned my call
>>> to answer the questions. Thankfully, the National Center for Education
>>> Statistics has some great information about Prince George's County
>>> Public Schools online available to the public to anyone with an
>>> internet connection! ( * nces.ed.gov/)
>>>
>>> According to this government website, in the 2006-2007 school year,
>>> Prince George's County Public Schools received $11,325 per student per
>>> year! That is more than I pay for my kid's private school tuition! The
>>> breakdown was 7% from federal money or $780, 46% from the state at
>>> $5246, and 47% from local revenue at $5298. Assuming a typical 180 day
>>> school year, that comes out to $63 per child per day of school
>>> attended.
>>>
>>> Why is this important information? If the Washington Post article is
>>> correct when they said that 2300 kids are being barred from school,
>>> all of a sudden $63 per student per day turns into a astronomical loss
>>> of $144,900 PER DAY for the school district. That would light a fire
>>> under anyone's backside to stop that hemorrhaging of loss of income,
>>> but it does not justify the way these families are being
>>> treated..........more at link
>>>
>>> Seems likely the two vaccines in question here are hep b and
>>> chickenpox heb b is almost impossible to spread in a school setting
>>> and chickenpox.......
>>>
>>> Thanks Vince
>> Nice detective work Vince.
>>
>> Thank you.
>>
>> DrCee
>
> Yes, but if this was really the reason for this publicity stunt by the legal
> authorities of Prince George's County, then why did the School District ban
> the kids from school in the first place?

Excellent question (for a change).

> I've seen the reports that these parents were never informed of their legal
> right to avoid vaccination in the first place.

CNN had the notices that were sent home, and a copy of the form that the
parents are given to complete. Both the notices and the form had full
disclosure statements, right where the parents sign.

The anti-vac sociopaths are spreading that lie, that you just spread.

Reply from: Jan Drew
Date: 22 Nov 2007, 04:55
Re: The vaccinate your kid or else approach in Maryland is it all about the money?


"Mark Probert" <markprobert@lumbercartel . com > wrote in message
news:K0W0j.2878$7T.12@trndny09...
> Yuri Kuchinsky wrote:
>> <drceephd@insightbb . com > wrote in message
>> news:6bce3e0e-52fd-4dad-a1c4-fc424f348148@d50g2000hsf.googlegroups . com ...
>>> On Nov 20, 2:56 pm, bigvince <Vince.Mirag...@gmail . com > wrote:
>>>> * sayingnotovaccines.blogspot . com /2007/11/mandatory-vaccines-in-...
>>>>
>>>> Tuesday, November 20, 2007
>>>> Mandatory Vaccination in Maryland REALLY IS about Money
>>>> (from Dawn Richardson at PROVE (w w w .vaccineinfo . net )
>>>>
>>>> What could possibly be behind these forced vaccination? There are
>>>> several factors that could be at play, but the primary suspicion that
>>>> stands out in my mind is money. So I called the communications
>>>> department of the Prince George's County School District to ask them
>>>> specifically some questions about the amount of money the school
>>>> district gets paid per child per day. They have not returned my call
>>>> to answer the questions. Thankfully, the National Center for Education
>>>> Statistics has some great information about Prince George's County
>>>> Public Schools online available to the public to anyone with an
>>>> internet connection! ( * nces.ed.gov/)
>>>>
>>>> According to this government website, in the 2006-2007 school year,
>>>> Prince George's County Public Schools received $11,325 per student per
>>>> year! That is more than I pay for my kid's private school tuition! The
>>>> breakdown was 7% from federal money or $780, 46% from the state at
>>>> $5246, and 47% from local revenue at $5298. Assuming a typical 180 day
>>>> school year, that comes out to $63 per child per day of school
>>>> attended.
>>>>
>>>> Why is this important information? If the Washington Post article is
>>>> correct when they said that 2300 kids are being barred from school,
>>>> all of a sudden $63 per student per day turns into a astronomical loss
>>>> of $144,900 PER DAY for the school district. That would light a fire
>>>> under anyone's backside to stop that hemorrhaging of loss of income,
>>>> but it does not justify the way these families are being
>>>> treated..........more at link
>>>>
>>>> Seems likely the two vaccines in question here are hep b and
>>>> chickenpox heb b is almost impossible to spread in a school setting
>>>> and chickenpox.......
>>>>
>>>> Thanks Vince
>>> Nice detective work Vince.
>>>
>>> Thank you.
>>>
>>> DrCee
>>
>> Yes, but if this was really the reason for this publicity stunt by the
>> legal authorities of Prince George's County, then why did the School
>> District ban the kids from school in the first place?
>
> Excellent question (for a change).
>
>> I've seen the reports that these parents were never informed of their
>> legal right to avoid vaccination in the first place.
>
> CNN had the notices that were sent home, and a copy of the form that the
> parents are given to complete. Both the notices and the form had full
> disclosure statements, right where the parents sign.

Very few parents are informed of the risks and adverse effects.
>
> The anti-vac sociopaths are spreading that lie, that you just spread.

I conclude Mark believe it is A OK that parents have no rights and it was
fine and dandy to force them. Throw them in jail.

While he talks of freedom.

Sad that.


Reply from: Yuri Kuchinsky
Date: 22 Nov 2007, 17:39
Re: The vaccinate your kid or else approach in Maryland is it all about the money?


"Jan Drew" <jdrew1374@sbcglobal . net > wrote in message
news:X471j.11881$yV6.11158@newssvr25.news.prodigy . net ...
>
> "Mark Probert" <markprobert@lumbercartel . com > wrote in message
> news:K0W0j.2878$7T.12@trndny09...
>> Yuri Kuchinsky wrote:
>>> <drceephd@insightbb . com > wrote in message
>>> news:6bce3e0e-52fd-4dad-a1c4-fc424f348148@d50g2000hsf.googlegroups . com ...
>>>> On Nov 20, 2:56 pm, bigvince <Vince.Mirag...@gmail . com > wrote:
>>>>> * sayingnotovaccines.blogspot . com /2007/11/mandatory-vaccines-in-...
>>>>>
>>>>> Tuesday, November 20, 2007
>>>>> Mandatory Vaccination in Maryland REALLY IS about Money
>>>>> (from Dawn Richardson at PROVE (w w w .vaccineinfo . net )
>>>>>
>>>>> What could possibly be behind these forced vaccination? There are
>>>>> several factors that could be at play, but the primary suspicion that
>>>>> stands out in my mind is money. So I called the communications
>>>>> department of the Prince George's County School District to ask them
>>>>> specifically some questions about the amount of money the school
>>>>> district gets paid per child per day. They have not returned my call
>>>>> to answer the questions. Thankfully, the National Center for Education
>>>>> Statistics has some great information about Prince George's County
>>>>> Public Schools online available to the public to anyone with an
>>>>> internet connection! ( * nces.ed.gov/)
>>>>>
>>>>> According to this government website, in the 2006-2007 school year,
>>>>> Prince George's County Public Schools received $11,325 per student per
>>>>> year! That is more than I pay for my kid's private school tuition! The
>>>>> breakdown was 7% from federal money or $780, 46% from the state at
>>>>> $5246, and 47% from local revenue at $5298. Assuming a typical 180 day
>>>>> school year, that comes out to $63 per child per day of school
>>>>> attended.
>>>>>
>>>>> Why is this important information? If the Washington Post article is
>>>>> correct when they said that 2300 kids are being barred from school,
>>>>> all of a sudden $63 per student per day turns into a astronomical loss
>>>>> of $144,900 PER DAY for the school district. That would light a fire
>>>>> under anyone's backside to stop that hemorrhaging of loss of income,
>>>>> but it does not justify the way these families are being
>>>>> treated..........more at link
>>>>>
>>>>> Seems likely the two vaccines in question here are hep b and
>>>>> chickenpox heb b is almost impossible to spread in a school setting
>>>>> and chickenpox.......
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks Vince
>>>> Nice detective work Vince.
>>>>
>>>> Thank you.
>>>>
>>>> DrCee
>>>
>>> Yes, but if this was really the reason for this publicity stunt by the
>>> legal authorities of Prince George's County, then why did the School
>>> District ban the kids from school in the first place?
>>
>> Excellent question (for a change).
>>
>>> I've seen the reports that these parents were never informed of their
>>> legal right to avoid vaccination in the first place.
>>
>> CNN had the notices that were sent home, and a copy of the form that the
>> parents are given to complete. Both the notices and the form had full
>> disclosure statements, right where the parents sign.
>
> Very few parents are informed of the risks and adverse effects.

That's right, Jan, Mark is lying again. The parents of Prince George's
County were not informed of their rights.

>> The anti-vac sociopaths are spreading that lie, that you just spread.
>
> I conclude Mark believe it is A OK that parents have no rights and it was
> fine and dandy to force them. Throw them in jail.
>
> While he talks of freedom.
>
> Sad that.

Freedom to deceive the public...

Yuri.

Yuri Kuchinsky -=O=- * w w w .globalserve . net /~yuku

"May as well consult a butcher on the value of vegetarianism as a doctor on
the worth of vaccination." -- George Bernard Shaw



Reply from: Mark Probert
Date: 22 Nov 2007, 20:49
Re: The vaccinate your kid or else approach in Maryland is it all about the money?

Yuri Kuchinsky wrote:

>> "Mark Probert" <markprobert@lumbercartel . com > wrote in message
>> news:K0W0j.2878$7T.12@trndny09...
>>> Yuri Kuchinsky wrote:
>>>> <drceephd@insightbb . com > wrote in message
>>>> news:6bce3e0e-52fd-4dad-a1c4-fc424f348148@d50g2000hsf.googlegroups . com ...
>>>>> On Nov 20, 2:56 pm, bigvince <Vince.Mirag...@gmail . com > wrote:
>>>>>> * sayingnotovaccines.blogspot . com /2007/11/mandatory-vaccines-in-...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Tuesday, November 20, 2007
>>>>>> Mandatory Vaccination in Maryland REALLY IS about Money
>>>>>> (from Dawn Richardson at PROVE (w w w .vaccineinfo . net )
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What could possibly be behind these forced vaccination? There are
>>>>>> several factors that could be at play, but the primary suspicion that
>>>>>> stands out in my mind is money. So I called the communications
>>>>>> department of the Prince George's County School District to ask them
>>>>>> specifically some questions about the amount of money the school
>>>>>> district gets paid per child per day. They have not returned my call
>>>>>> to answer the questions. Thankfully, the National Center for Education
>>>>>> Statistics has some great information about Prince George's County
>>>>>> Public Schools online available to the public to anyone with an
>>>>>> internet connection! ( * nces.ed.gov/)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> According to this government website, in the 2006-2007 school year,
>>>>>> Prince George's County Public Schools received $11,325 per student per
>>>>>> year! That is more than I pay for my kid's private school tuition! The
>>>>>> breakdown was 7% from federal money or $780, 46% from the state at
>>>>>> $5246, and 47% from local revenue at $5298. Assuming a typical 180 day
>>>>>> school year, that comes out to $63 per child per day of school
>>>>>> attended.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Why is this important information? If the Washington Post article is
>>>>>> correct when they said that 2300 kids are being barred from school,
>>>>>> all of a sudden $63 per student per day turns into a astronomical loss
>>>>>> of $144,900 PER DAY for the school district. That would light a fire
>>>>>> under anyone's backside to stop that hemorrhaging of loss of income,
>>>>>> but it does not justify the way these families are being
>>>>>> treated..........more at link
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Seems likely the two vaccines in question here are hep b and
>>>>>> chickenpox heb b is almost impossible to spread in a school setting
>>>>>> and chickenpox.......
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks Vince
>>>>> Nice detective work Vince.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thank you.
>>>>>
>>>>> DrCee
>>>> Yes, but if this was really the reason for this publicity stunt by the
>>>> legal authorities of Prince George's County, then why did the School
>>>> District ban the kids from school in the first place?
>>> Excellent question (for a change).
>>>
>>>> I've seen the reports that these parents were never informed of their
>>>> legal right to avoid vaccination in the first place.
>>> CNN had the notices that were sent home, and a copy of the form that the
>>> parents are given to complete. Both the notices and the form had full
>>> disclosure statements, right where the parents sign.
>> Very few parents are informed of the risks and adverse effects.
>
> That's right, Jan, Mark is lying again. The parents of Prince George's
> County were not informed of their rights.

Wrong, Clueless one. Here is a page where one can download, or just read
the form:

* w w w 1.pgcps.org/interior.aspx?id0956

Any parents wishing to opt out was able to do so by merely stating that
they have a religious objection. Period.

>>> The anti-vac sociopaths are spreading that lie, that you just spread.
>> I conclude Mark believe it is A OK that parents have no rights and it was
>> fine and dandy to force them. Throw them in jail.
>>
>> While he talks of freedom.
>>
>> Sad that.
>
> Freedom to deceive the public...

Yes, you have the freedom, as an anti-vac liar sociopath to deceive the
public.

I just showed you how simple it was for the parents to opt out. If you
read, and understand the for, please have a kindergarten student read it
to you you. I am certain they can also explain it to you.

Reply from: Yuri Kuchinsky
Date: 22 Nov 2007, 22:18
Re: The vaccinate your kid or else approach in Maryland is it all about the money?


"Mark Probert" <markprobert@lumbercartel . com > wrote in message
news:H3l1j.4290$Jy1.3155@trndny02...
> Yuri Kuchinsky wrote:
>
>>> "Mark Probert" <markprobert@lumbercartel . com > wrote in message
>>> news:K0W0j.2878$7T.12@trndny09...
>>>> Yuri Kuchinsky wrote:
>>>>> <drceephd@insightbb . com > wrote in message
>>>>> news:6bce3e0e-52fd-4dad-a1c4-fc424f348148@d50g2000hsf.googlegroups . com ...
>>>>>> On Nov 20, 2:56 pm, bigvince <Vince.Mirag...@gmail . com > wrote:
>>>>>>> * sayingnotovaccines.blogspot . com /2007/11/mandatory-vaccines-in-...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Tuesday, November 20, 2007
>>>>>>> Mandatory Vaccination in Maryland REALLY IS about Money
>>>>>>> (from Dawn Richardson at PROVE (w w w .vaccineinfo . net )
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What could possibly be behind these forced vaccination? There are
>>>>>>> several factors that could be at play, but the primary suspicion
>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>> stands out in my mind is money. So I called the communications
>>>>>>> department of the Prince George's County School District to ask them
>>>>>>> specifically some questions about the amount of money the school
>>>>>>> district gets paid per child per day. They have not returned my call
>>>>>>> to answer the questions. Thankfully, the National Center for
>>>>>>> Education
>>>>>>> Statistics has some great information about Prince George's County
>>>>>>> Public Schools online available to the public to anyone with an
>>>>>>> internet connection! ( * nces.ed.gov/)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> According to this government website, in the 2006-2007 school year,
>>>>>>> Prince George's County Public Schools received $11,325 per student
>>>>>>> per
>>>>>>> year! That is more than I pay for my kid's private school tuition!
>>>>>>> The
>>>>>>> breakdown was 7% from federal money or $780, 46% from the state at
>>>>>>> $5246, and 47% from local revenue at $5298. Assuming a typical 180
>>>>>>> day
>>>>>>> school year, that comes out to $63 per child per day of school
>>>>>>> attended.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Why is this important information? If the Washington Post article is
>>>>>>> correct when they said that 2300 kids are being barred from school,
>>>>>>> all of a sudden $63 per student per day turns into a astronomical
>>>>>>> loss
>>>>>>> of $144,900 PER DAY for the school district. That would light a fire
>>>>>>> under anyone's backside to stop that hemorrhaging of loss of income,
>>>>>>> but it does not justify the way these families are being
>>>>>>> treated..........more at link
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Seems likely the two vaccines in question here are hep b and
>>>>>>> chickenpox heb b is almost impossible to spread in a school setting
>>>>>>> and chickenpox.......
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks Vince
>>>>>> Nice detective work Vince.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thank you.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> DrCee
>>>>> Yes, but if this was really the reason for this publicity stunt by the
>>>>> legal authorities of Prince George's County, then why did the School
>>>>> District ban the kids from school in the first place?
>>>> Excellent question (for a change).
>>>>
>>>>> I've seen the reports that these parents were never informed of their
>>>>> legal right to avoid vaccination in the first place.
>>>> CNN had the notices that were sent home, and a copy of the form that
>>>> the parents are given to complete. Both the notices and the form had
>>>> full disclosure statements, right where the parents sign.
>>> Very few parents are informed of the risks and adverse effects.
>>
>> That's right, Jan, Mark is lying again. The parents of Prince George's
>> County were not informed of their rights.
>
> Wrong, Clueless one. Here is a page where one can download, or just read
> the form:
>
> * w w w 1.pgcps.org/interior.aspx?id=30956
>
> Any parents wishing to opt out was able to do so by merely stating that
> they have a religious objection. Period.

But they were not informed of their right to refuse vaccines.

>>>> The anti-vac sociopaths are spreading that lie, that you just spread.
>>> I conclude Mark believe it is A OK that parents have no rights and it
>>> was fine and dandy to force them. Throw them in jail.
>>>
>>> While he talks of freedom.
>>>
>>> Sad that.
>>
>> Freedom to deceive the public...
>
> Yes, you have the freedom, as an anti-vac liar sociopath to deceive the
> public.
>
> I just showed you how simple it was for the parents to opt out.

But many of them didn't know this.

Yuri.

Yuri Kuchinsky -=O=- * w w w .globalserve . net /~yuku

"May as well consult a butcher on the value of vegetarianism as a doctor on
the worth of vaccination." -- George Bernard Shaw



Reply from: Mark Probert
Date: 23 Nov 2007, 00:52
Re: The vaccinate your kid or else approach in Maryland is it all about the money?

Yuri Kuchinsky wrote:
> "Mark Probert" <markprobert@lumbercartel . com > wrote in message
> news:H3l1j.4290$Jy1.3155@trndny02...
>> Yuri Kuchinsky wrote:
>>
>>>> "Mark Probert" <markprobert@lumbercartel . com > wrote in message
>>>> news:K0W0j.2878$7T.12@trndny09...
>>>>> Yuri Kuchinsky wrote:
>>>>>> <drceephd@insightbb . com > wrote in message
>>>>>> news:6bce3e0e-52fd-4dad-a1c4-fc424f348148@d50g2000hsf.googlegroups . com ...
>>>>>>> On Nov 20, 2:56 pm, bigvince <Vince.Mirag...@gmail . com > wrote:
>>>>>>>> * sayingnotovaccines.blogspot . com /2007/11/mandatory-vaccines-in-...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Tuesday, November 20, 2007
>>>>>>>> Mandatory Vaccination in Maryland REALLY IS about Money
>>>>>>>> (from Dawn Richardson at PROVE (w w w .vaccineinfo . net )
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> What could possibly be behind these forced vaccination? There are
>>>>>>>> several factors that could be at play, but the primary suspicion
>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>> stands out in my mind is money. So I called the communications
>>>>>>>> department of the Prince George's County School District to ask them
>>>>>>>> specifically some questions about the amount of money the school
>>>>>>>> district gets paid per child per day. They have not returned my call
>>>>>>>> to answer the questions. Thankfully, the National Center for
>>>>>>>> Education
>>>>>>>> Statistics has some great information about Prince George's County
>>>>>>>> Public Schools online available to the public to anyone with an
>>>>>>>> internet connection! ( * nces.ed.gov/)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> According to this government website, in the 2006-2007 school year,
>>>>>>>> Prince George's County Public Schools received $11,325 per student
>>>>>>>> per
>>>>>>>> year! That is more than I pay for my kid's private school tuition!
>>>>>>>> The
>>>>>>>> breakdown was 7% from federal money or $780, 46% from the state at
>>>>>>>> $5246, and 47% from local revenue at $5298. Assuming a typical 180
>>>>>>>> day
>>>>>>>> school year, that comes out to $63 per child per day of school
>>>>>>>> attended.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Why is this important information? If the Washington Post article is
>>>>>>>> correct when they said that 2300 kids are being barred from school,
>>>>>>>> all of a sudden $63 per student per day turns into a astronomical
>>>>>>>> loss
>>>>>>>> of $144,900 PER DAY for the school district. That would light a fire
>>>>>>>> under anyone's backside to stop that hemorrhaging of loss of income,
>>>>>>>> but it does not justify the way these families are being
>>>>>>>> treated..........more at link
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Seems likely the two vaccines in question here are hep b and
>>>>>>>> chickenpox heb b is almost impossible to spread in a school setting
>>>>>>>> and chickenpox.......
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks Vince
>>>>>>> Nice detective work Vince.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thank you.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> DrCee
>>>>>> Yes, but if this was really the reason for this publicity stunt by the
>>>>>> legal authorities of Prince George's County, then why did the School
>>>>>> District ban the kids from school in the first place?
>>>>> Excellent question (for a change).
>>>>>
>>>>>> I've seen the reports that these parents were never informed of their
>>>>>> legal right to avoid vaccination in the first place.
>>>>> CNN had the notices that were sent home, and a copy of the form that
>>>>> the parents are given to complete. Both the notices and the form had
>>>>> full disclosure statements, right where the parents sign.
>>>> Very few parents are informed of the risks and adverse effects.
>>> That's right, Jan, Mark is lying again. The parents of Prince George's
>>> County were not informed of their rights.
>> Wrong, Clueless one. Here is a page where one can download, or just read
>> the form:
>>
>> * w w w 1.pgcps.org/interior.aspx?id0956
>>
>> Any parents wishing to opt out was able to do so by merely stating that
>> they have a religious objection. Period.
>
> But they were not informed of their right to refuse vaccines.

Either you did not bother to read the form that is available at that
website, or you are utterly incapable of comprehending what you are reading.

A third possibility is that you are a sociopath who likes dead children.

Or, all three.

>
>>>>> The anti-vac sociopaths are spreading that lie, that you just spread.
>>>> I conclude Mark believe it is A OK that parents have no rights and it
>>>> was fine and dandy to force them. Throw them in jail.
>>>>
>>>> While he talks of freedom.
>>>>
>>>> Sad that.
>>> Freedom to deceive the public...
>> Yes, you have the freedom, as an anti-vac liar sociopath to deceive the
>> public.
>>
>> I just showed you how simple it was for the parents to opt out.
>
> But many of them didn't know this.

Is that the fault of the district? NOPE, they were all given the form
and did not read it, or read it and were too lazy to fill it out.

Reply from: Yuri Kuchinsky
Date: 26 Nov 2007, 03:51
Re: The vaccinate your kid or else approach in Maryland is it all about the money?


"Mark Probert" <markprobert@lumbercartel . com > wrote in message
news:5Do1j.4301$Jy1.4118@trndny02...
> Yuri Kuchinsky wrote:
>> "Mark Probert" <markprobert@lumbercartel . com > wrote in message
>> news:H3l1j.4290$Jy1.3155@trndny02...
>>> Yuri Kuchinsky wrote:
>>>
>>>>> "Mark Probert" <markprobert@lumbercartel . com > wrote in message
>>>>> news:K0W0j.2878$7T.12@trndny09...
>>>>>> Yuri Kuchinsky wrote:
>>>>>>> <drceephd@insightbb . com > wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:6bce3e0e-52fd-4dad-a1c4-fc424f348148@d50g2000hsf.googlegroups . com ...
>>>>>>>> On Nov 20, 2:56 pm, bigvince <Vince.Mirag...@gmail . com > wrote:
>>>>>>>>> * sayingnotovaccines.blogspot . com /2007/11/mandatory-vaccines-in-...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Tuesday, November 20, 2007
>>>>>>>>> Mandatory Vaccination in Maryland REALLY IS about Money
>>>>>>>>> (from Dawn Richardson at PROVE (w w w .vaccineinfo . net )
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> What could possibly be behind these forced vaccination? There are
>>>>>>>>> several factors that could be at play, but the primary suspicion
>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>> stands out in my mind is money. So I called the communications
>>>>>>>>> department of the Prince George's County School District to ask
>>>>>>>>> them
>>>>>>>>> specifically some questions about the amount of money the school
>>>>>>>>> district gets paid per child per day. They have not returned my
>>>>>>>>> call
>>>>>>>>> to answer the questions. Thankfully, the National Center for
>>>>>>>>> Education
>>>>>>>>> Statistics has some great information about Prince George's County
>>>>>>>>> Public Schools online available to the public to anyone with an
>>>>>>>>> internet connection! ( * nces.ed.gov/)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> According to this government website, in the 2006-2007 school
>>>>>>>>> year,
>>>>>>>>> Prince George's County Public Schools received $11,325 per student
>>>>>>>>> per
>>>>>>>>> year! That is more than I pay for my kid's private school tuition!
>>>>>>>>> The
>>>>>>>>> breakdown was 7% from federal money or $780, 46% from the state at
>>>>>>>>> $5246, and 47% from local revenue at $5298. Assuming a typical 180
>>>>>>>>> day
>>>>>>>>> school year, that comes out to $63 per child per day of school
>>>>>>>>> attended.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Why is this important information? If the Washington Post article
>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>> correct when they said that 2300 kids are being barred from
>>>>>>>>> school,
>>>>>>>>> all of a sudden $63 per student per day turns into a astronomical
>>>>>>>>> loss
>>>>>>>>> of $144,900 PER DAY for the school district. That would light a
>>>>>>>>> fire
>>>>>>>>> under anyone's backside to stop that hemorrhaging of loss of
>>>>>>>>> income,
>>>>>>>>> but it does not justify the way these families are being
>>>>>>>>> treated..........more at link
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Seems likely the two vaccines in question here are hep b and
>>>>>>>>> chickenpox heb b is almost impossible to spread in a school
>>>>>>>>> setting
>>>>>>>>> and chickenpox.......
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thanks Vince
>>>>>>>> Nice detective work Vince.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thank you.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> DrCee
>>>>>>> Yes, but if this was really the reason for this publicity stunt by
>>>>>>> the legal authorities of Prince George's County, then why did the
>>>>>>> School District ban the kids from school in the first place?
>>>>>> Excellent question (for a change).
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I've seen the reports that these parents were never informed of
>>>>>>> their legal right to avoid vaccination in the first place.
>>>>>> CNN had the notices that were sent home, and a copy of the form that
>>>>>> the parents are given to complete. Both the notices and the form had
>>>>>> full disclosure statements, right where the parents sign.
>>>>> Very few parents are informed of the risks and adverse effects.
>>>> That's right, Jan, Mark is lying again. The parents of Prince George's
>>>> County were not informed of their rights.
>>> Wrong, Clueless one. Here is a page where one can download, or just read
>>> the form:
>>>
>>> * w w w 1.pgcps.org/interior.aspx?id=30956
>>>
>>> Any parents wishing to opt out was able to do so by merely stating that
>>> they have a religious objection. Period.
>>
>> But they were not informed of their right to refuse vaccines.
>
> Either you did not bother to read the form that is available at that
> website, or you are utterly incapable of comprehending what you are
> reading.
>
> A third possibility is that you are a sociopath who likes dead children.
>
> Or, all three.
>
>>
>>>>>> The anti-vac sociopaths are spreading that lie, that you just spread.
>>>>> I conclude Mark believe it is A OK that parents have no rights and it
>>>>> was fine and dandy to force them. Throw them in jail.
>>>>>
>>>>> While he talks of freedom.
>>>>>
>>>>> Sad that.
>>>> Freedom to deceive the public...
>>> Yes, you have the freedom, as an anti-vac liar sociopath to deceive the
>>> public.
>>>
>>> I just showed you how simple it was for the parents to opt out.
>>
>> But many of them didn't know this.
>
> Is that the fault of the district? NOPE, they were all given the form and
> did not read it, or read it and were too lazy to fill it out.

What is the basis for your claims? Were you there?

Yuri.

Yuri Kuchinsky -=O=- * w w w .globalserve . net /~yuku

"Official data have shown that the large-scale vaccinations undertaken in
the US have failed to obtain any significant improvement of the diseases
against which they were supposed to provide protection." -- Dr A. Sabin,
developer of the Oral Polio vaccine.




Reply from: Mark Probert
Date: 26 Nov 2007, 04:40
Re: The vaccinate your kid or else approach in Maryland is it all about the money?

Yuri Kuchinsky wrote:
> "Mark Probert" <markprobert@lumbercartel . com > wrote in message
> news:5Do1j.4301$Jy1.4118@trndny02...
>> Yuri Kuchinsky wrote:
>>> "Mark Probert" <markprobert@lumbercartel . com > wrote in message
>>> news:H3l1j.4290$Jy1.3155@trndny02...
>>>> Yuri Kuchinsky wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>> "Mark Probert" <markprobert@lumbercartel . com > wrote in message
>>>>>> news:K0W0j.2878$7T.12@trndny09...
>>>>>>> Yuri Kuchinsky wrote:
>>>>>>>> <drceephd@insightbb . com > wrote in message
>>>>>>>> news:6bce3e0e-52fd-4dad-a1c4-fc424f348148@d50g2000hsf.googlegroups . com ...
>>>>>>>>> On Nov 20, 2:56 pm, bigvince <Vince.Mirag...@gmail . com > wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> * sayingnotovaccines.blogspot . com /2007/11/mandatory-vaccines-in-...
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Tuesday, November 20, 2007
>>>>>>>>>> Mandatory Vaccination in Maryland REALLY IS about Money
>>>>>>>>>> (from Dawn Richardson at PROVE (w w w .vaccineinfo . net )
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> What could possibly be behind these forced vaccination? There are
>>>>>>>>>> several factors that could be at play, but the primary suspicion
>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>> stands out in my mind is money. So I called the communications
>>>>>>>>>> department of the Prince George's County School District to ask
>>>>>>>>>> them
>>>>>>>>>> specifically some questions about the amount of money the school
>>>>>>>>>> district gets paid per child per day. They have not returned my
>>>>>>>>>> call
>>>>>>>>>> to answer the questions. Thankfully, the National Center for
>>>>>>>>>> Education
>>>>>>>>>> Statistics has some great information about Prince George's County
>>>>>>>>>> Public Schools online available to the public to anyone with an
>>>>>>>>>> internet connection! ( * nces.ed.gov/)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> According to this government website, in the 2006-2007 school
>>>>>>>>>> year,
>>>>>>>>>> Prince George's County Public Schools received $11,325 per student
>>>>>>>>>> per
>>>>>>>>>> year! That is more than I pay for my kid's private school tuition!
>>>>>>>>>> The
>>>>>>>>>> breakdown was 7% from federal money or $780, 46% from the state at
>>>>>>>>>> $5246, and 47% from local revenue at $5298. Assuming a typical 180
>>>>>>>>>> day
>>>>>>>>>> school year, that comes out to $63 per child per day of school
>>>>>>>>>> attended.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Why is this important information? If the Washington Post article
>>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>> correct when they said that 2300 kids are being barred from
>>>>>>>>>> school,
>>>>>>>>>> all of a sudden $63 per student per day turns into a astronomical
>>>>>>>>>> loss
>>>>>>>>>> of $144,900 PER DAY for the school district. That would light a
>>>>>>>>>> fire
>>>>>>>>>> under anyone's backside to stop that hemorrhaging of loss of
>>>>>>>>>> income,
>>>>>>>>>> but it does not justify the way these families are being
>>>>>>>>>> treated..........more at link
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Seems likely the two vaccines in question here are hep b and
>>>>>>>>>> chickenpox heb b is almost impossible to spread in a school
>>>>>>>>>> setting
>>>>>>>>>> and chickenpox.......
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Thanks Vince
>>>>>>>>> Nice detective work Vince.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thank you.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> DrCee
>>>>>>>> Yes, but if this was really the reason for this publicity stunt by
>>>>>>>> the legal authorities of Prince George's County, then why did the
>>>>>>>> School District ban the kids from school in the first place?
>>>>>>> Excellent question (for a change).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I've seen the reports that these parents were never informed of
>>>>>>>> their legal right to avoid vaccination in the first place.
>>>>>>> CNN had the notices that were sent home, and a copy of the form that
>>>>>>> the parents are given to complete. Both the notices and the form had
>>>>>>> full disclosure statements, right where the parents sign.
>>>>>> Very few parents are informed of the risks and adverse effects.
>>>>> That's right, Jan, Mark is lying again. The parents of Prince George's
>>>>> County were not informed of their rights.
>>>> Wrong, Clueless one. Here is a page where one can download, or just read
>>>> the form:
>>>>
>>>> * w w w 1.pgcps.org/interior.aspx?id0956
>>>>
>>>> Any parents wishing to opt out was able to do so by merely stating that
>>>> they have a religious objection. Period.
>>> But they were not informed of their right to refuse vaccines.
>> Either you did not bother to read the form that is available at that
>> website, or you are utterly incapable of comprehending what you are
>> reading.
>>
>> A third possibility is that you are a sociopath who likes dead children.
>>
>> Or, all three.
>>
>>>>>>> The anti-vac sociopaths are spreading that lie, that you just spread.
>>>>>> I conclude Mark believe it is A OK that parents have no rights and it
>>>>>> was fine and dandy to force them. Throw them in jail.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> While he talks of freedom.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sad that.
>>>>> Freedom to deceive the public...
>>>> Yes, you have the freedom, as an anti-vac liar sociopath to deceive the
>>>> public.
>>>>
>>>> I just showed you how simple it was for the parents to opt out.
>>> But many of them didn't know this.
>> Is that the fault of the district? NOPE, they were all given the form and
>> did not read it, or read it and were too lazy to fill it out.
>
> What is the basis for your claims? Were you there?

Re-read the thread, idiot, and you will see the answer to your question.

Reply from: Mark Probert
Date: 21 Nov 2007, 14:01
Re: The vaccinate your kid or else approach in Maryland is it all about the money?

drceephd@insightbb . com wrote:
> On Nov 20, 2:56 pm, bigvince <Vince.Mirag...@gmail . com > wrote:
>> * sayingnotovaccines.blogspot . com /2007/11/mandatory-vaccines-in-...
>>
>> Tuesday, November 20, 2007
>> Mandatory Vaccination in Maryland REALLY IS about Money
>> (from Dawn Richardson at PROVE (w w w .vaccineinfo . net )
>>
>> What could possibly be behind these forced vaccination? There are
>> several factors that could be at play, but the primary suspicion that
>> stands out in my mind is money. So I called the communications
>> department of the Prince George's County School District to ask them
>> specifically some questions about the amount of money the school
>> district gets paid per child per day. They have not returned my call
>> to answer the questions. Thankfully, the National Center for Education
>> Statistics has some great information about Prince George's County
>> Public Schools online available to the public to anyone with an
>> internet connection! ( * nces.ed.gov/)
>>
>> According to this government website, in the 2006-2007 school year,
>> Prince George's County Public Schools received $11,325 per student per
>> year! That is more than I pay for my kid's private school tuition! The
>> breakdown was 7% from federal money or $780, 46% from the state at
>> $5246, and 47% from local revenue at $5298. Assuming a typical 180 day
>> school year, that comes out to $63 per child per day of school
>> attended.
>>
>> Why is this important information? If the Washington Post article is
>> correct when they said that 2300 kids are being barred from school,
>> all of a sudden $63 per student per day turns into a astronomical loss
>> of $144,900 PER DAY for the school district. That would light a fire
>> under anyone's backside to stop that hemorrhaging of loss of income,
>> but it does not justify the way these families are being
>> treated..........more at link
>>
>> Seems likely the two vaccines in question here are hep b and
>> chickenpox heb b is almost impossible to spread in a school setting
>> and chickenpox.......
>>
>> Thanks Vince
>
> Nice detective work Vince.

That would be DEFECTIVE work.


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