Vaccines are destroying our immune systems.

Vaccines are destroying our immune systems.

Jeff P Utz claims:

> I am nearly 100% sure that autism is not caused by vaccines, which is the question
>Vaccines don't tamper with the immune system.


I recall when you claimed that there was "no evidence" that silicone
implants had harmed anyone.

This is one of the most ridiculous statements from this Snake-oil
Seller.

www .BreastImplantAwareness.org/snake-oil.htm#J-P_UTZ

That was AFTER nearly 250,000 women had filed adverse reports to the
FDA from the harm done to them by silicone implants (you called them
incorrectly 'silicon') ...

Since you are so prolific in defending mercury in vaccinations ... and
for years claimed you were a pediatrician or "kidsdoc" ... perhaps you
could share with the readers here who believe you why you were never
given an unrestricted medical license and no longer have any medical
license.

What happened that after years and years of med school ... around 5 or
6 with a RESTRICTED license ... you now have none.

I would grade your ability to look at evidence and draw conclusions to
be at an F level ...

www .BreastImplantAwareness.org/QuackWatchWatch.htm

Vaccines are Strengthening our immune systems!

On Jan 25, 12:00 pm, BreastImplantAwareness.org <B...@mundo,com >
wrote:
> Jeff P Utz claims:
>
> > I am nearly 100% sure that autism is not caused by vaccines, which is the question
> >Vaccines don't tamper with the immune system.
>

Vaccines Strengthen the Immune System.

Do make a note of it.

Re: Vaccines are Strengthening our immune systems!

On Jan 26, 4:03 am, The One True Zhen Jue <Andrew King...@yahoo,com >
wrote:
> On Jan 25, 12:00 pm, BreastImplantAwareness.org <B...@mundo,com >
> wrote:
>
> > Jeff P Utz claims:
>
> > > I am nearly 100% sure that autism is not caused by vaccines, which is the question
> > >Vaccines don't tamper with the immune system.
>
> Vaccines Strengthen the Immune System.
>
> Do make a note of it.

In theory yes. However there is always a tipping point, overload the
system and it might break it down. I for one am keeping an open mind
on incidences of autism and early childhood diabetes skyrocketing with
aggressive immunisation.

Re: Vaccines are Strengthening our immune systems!

SKD wrote:
> On Jan 26, 4:03 am, The One True Zhen Jue <Andrew King...@yahoo,com >
> wrote:
>> On Jan 25, 12:00 pm, BreastImplantAwareness.org <B...@mundo,com >
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Jeff P Utz claims:
>>>> I am nearly 100% sure that autism is not caused by vaccines, which is the question
>>>> Vaccines don't tamper with the immune system.
>> Vaccines Strengthen the Immune System.
>>
>> Do make a note of it.
>
> In theory yes. However there is always a tipping point, overload the
> system and it might break it down. I for one am keeping an open mind
> on incidences of autism and early childhood diabetes skyrocketing with
> aggressive immunisation.

They're also increasing with skyrocketing internet usage! And
skyrocketing soccer and NASCAR popularity. Correlation does not mean
causation.

I keep an open mind. And everything I have read and learned tells me
that autism and diabetes are NOT caused by immunizations. And lives are
saved every day by immunizations.

Jeff

Re: Vaccines are Strengthening our immune systems!

On Jan 26, 10:23 am, Jeff <kidsdoc2...@hotmail,com > wrote:
> SKD wrote:
> > On Jan 26, 4:03 am, The One True Zhen Jue <Andrew King...@yahoo,com >
> > wrote:
> >> On Jan 25, 12:00 pm, BreastImplantAwareness.org <B...@mundo,com >
> >> wrote:
>
> >>> Jeff P Utz claims:
> >>>> I am nearly 100% sure that autism is not caused by vaccines, which is the question
> >>>> Vaccines don't tamper with the immune system.
> >> Vaccines Strengthen the Immune System.
>
> >> Do make a note of it.
>
> > In theory yes. However there is always a tipping point, overload the
> > system and it might break it down. I for one am keeping an open mind
> > on incidences of autism and early childhood diabetes skyrocketing with
> > aggressive immunisation.
>
> They're also increasing with skyrocketing internet usage! And
> skyrocketing soccer and NASCAR popularity. Correlation does not mean
> causation.
>
> I keep an open mind. And everything I have read and learned tells me
> that autism and diabetes are NOT caused by immunizations. And lives are
> saved every day by immunizations.
>
> Jeff

From a layman's perspective when I read the cause of type 1 diabetes,
it is where something confuses the immune system and it attacks
healthy beta cells. Something is causing this confusion to occur more
often in the same time frame as aggressive immunisation was
prescribed. Immunisation stimulates body's immune system - does it
over stimulates in some cases? Many parent I know will stagger MMR
into 2 steps, why can't the doctor advise people to be safer if there
is reasonable doubt, why is it such a taboo to question.

Re: Vaccines are Strengthening our immune systems!

SKD wrote:
> On Jan 26, 10:23 am, Jeff <kidsdoc2...@hotmail,com > wrote:
>> SKD wrote:
>>> On Jan 26, 4:03 am, The One True Zhen Jue <Andrew King...@yahoo,com >
>>> wrote:
>>>> On Jan 25, 12:00 pm, BreastImplantAwareness.org <B...@mundo,com >
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> Jeff P Utz claims:
>>>>>> I am nearly 100% sure that autism is not caused by vaccines, which is the question
>>>>>> Vaccines don't tamper with the immune system.
>>>> Vaccines Strengthen the Immune System.
>>>> Do make a note of it.
>>> In theory yes. However there is always a tipping point, overload the
>>> system and it might break it down. I for one am keeping an open mind
>>> on incidences of autism and early childhood diabetes skyrocketing with
>>> aggressive immunisation.
>> They're also increasing with skyrocketing internet usage! And
>> skyrocketing soccer and NASCAR popularity. Correlation does not mean
>> causation.
>>
>> I keep an open mind. And everything I have read and learned tells me
>> that autism and diabetes are NOT caused by immunizations. And lives are
>> saved every day by immunizations.
>>
>> Jeff
>
> From a layman's perspective when I read the cause of type 1 diabetes,
> it is where something confuses the immune system and it attacks
> healthy beta cells. Something is causing this confusion to occur more
> often in the same time frame as aggressive immunisation was
> prescribed. Immunisation stimulates body's immune system - does it
> over stimulates in some cases?

The body's immune system is stimulated millions of times a day, whenever
we get a cut or cold and from bacteria and viruses in our respiratory
tract and digestive tract (there are more bacteria cells in our
digestive tract than there are human cells in the body).

The number of antigens that are in an immunization are relatively small,
maybe a few thousand, at most. So the challenge to the immune system is
quite small compared to what the immune system does everyday.

There is no reason to think that diabets is caused by immunization.

> Many parent I know will stagger MMR
> into 2 steps, why can't the doctor advise people to be safer if there
> is reasonable doubt, why is it such a taboo to question.

There is no reasonable doubt, though. It is more expensive to get the
MMR in parts and not as well tested. Plus, doctors don't like to poke kids.

Jeff

Re: Vaccines are Strengthening our immune systems!


"Jeff" <kidsdoc2000@hotmail,com > wrote in message
news:gwvmj.1568$75.608@trnddc05...
> SKD wrote:
>> On Jan 26, 10:23 am, Jeff <kidsdoc2...@hotmail,com > wrote:
>>> SKD wrote:
>>>> On Jan 26, 4:03 am, The One True Zhen Jue <Andrew King...@yahoo,com >
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> On Jan 25, 12:00 pm, BreastImplantAwareness.org <B...@mundo,com >
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> Jeff P Utz claims:
>>>>>>> I am nearly 100% sure that autism is not caused by vaccines, which
>>>>>>> is the question
>>>>>>> Vaccines don't tamper with the immune system.
>>>>> Vaccines Strengthen the Immune System.
>>>>> Do make a note of it.
>>>> In theory yes. However there is always a tipping point, overload the
>>>> system and it might break it down. I for one am keeping an open mind
>>>> on incidences of autism and early childhood diabetes skyrocketing with
>>>> aggressive immunisation.
>>> They're also increasing with skyrocketing internet usage! And
>>> skyrocketing soccer and NASCAR popularity. Correlation does not mean
>>> causation.
>>>
>>> I keep an open mind. And everything I have read and learned tells me
>>> that autism and diabetes are NOT caused by immunizations. And lives are
>>> saved every day by immunizations.
>>>
>>> Jeff
>>
>> From a layman's perspective when I read the cause of type 1 diabetes,
>> it is where something confuses the immune system and it attacks
>> healthy beta cells. Something is causing this confusion to occur more
>> often in the same time frame as aggressive immunisation was
>> prescribed. Immunisation stimulates body's immune system - does it
>> over stimulates in some cases?
>
> The body's immune system is stimulated millions of times a day, whenever
> we get a cut or cold and from bacteria and viruses in our respiratory
> tract and digestive tract (there are more bacteria cells in our digestive
> tract than there are human cells in the body).
>
> The number of antigens that are in an immunization are relatively small,
> maybe a few thousand, at most. So the challenge to the immune system is
> quite small compared to what the immune system does everyday.
>
> There is no reason to think that diabets is caused by immunization.
>
>> Many parent I know will stagger MMR
>> into 2 steps, why can't the doctor advise people to be safer if there
>> is reasonable doubt, why is it such a taboo to question.
>
> There is no reasonable doubt, though. It is more expensive to get the MMR
> in parts and not as well tested. Plus, doctors don't like to poke kids.
>
> Jeff

No wonder you are notkidsdoc.

Web Results 1 - 10 of about 24,600 for MMR doubts. (0.29 seconds)


http :// www .encyclopedia,com /doc/1G1-113519698.html

'Lancet' admits MMR doubts.

http :// www .cyclingforums,com /archive/index.php/t-66599.html

New support for MMR doubts

http :// www .mercola,com /2001/jan/21/vaccine mmr.htm

Doctors Admit MMR Vaccine Doubts


http :// www .mercola,com /2000/oct/22/shoot first 2.htm

Shoot first, ask questions later.

http :// www .mercola,com /2000/oct/15/vaccines.htm

Shots in the Dark

Re: Vaccines are Strengthening our immune systems!

On 25 jan, 22:53, Jeff <kidsdoc2...@hotmail,com > wrote:
> SKD wrote:
> > On Jan 26, 10:23 am, Jeff <kidsdoc2...@hotmail,com > wrote:
> >> SKD wrote:
> >>> On Jan 26, 4:03 am, The One True Zhen Jue <Andrew King...@yahoo,com >
> >>> wrote:
> >>>> On Jan 25, 12:00 pm, BreastImplantAwareness.org <B...@mundo,com >
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>> Jeff P Utz claims:
> >>>>>> I am nearly 100% sure that autism is not caused by vaccines, which is the question
> >>>>>> Vaccines don't tamper with the immune system.
> >>>> Vaccines Strengthen the Immune System.
> >>>> Do make a note of it.
> >>> In theory yes. However there is always a tipping point, overload the
> >>> system and it might break it down. I for one am keeping an open mind
> >>> on incidences of autism and early childhood diabetes skyrocketing with
> >>> aggressive immunisation.
> >> They're also increasing with skyrocketing internet usage! And
> >> skyrocketing soccer and NASCAR popularity. Correlation does not mean
> >> causation.
>
> >> I keep an open mind. And everything I have read and learned tells me
> >> that autism and diabetes are NOT caused by immunizations. And lives are
> >> saved every day by immunizations.
>
> >> Jeff
>
> > From a layman's perspective when I read the cause of type 1 diabetes,
> > it is where something confuses the immune system and it attacks
> > healthy beta cells. Something is causing this confusion to occur more
> > often in the same time frame as aggressive immunisation was
> > prescribed. Immunisation stimulates body's immune system - does it
> > over stimulates in some cases?
>
> The body's immune system is stimulated millions of times a day, whenever
> we get a cut or cold and from bacteria and viruses in our respiratory
> tract and digestive tract (there are more bacteria cells in our
> digestive tract than there are human cells in the body).
>
> The number of antigens that are in an immunization are relatively small,
> maybe a few thousand, at most. So the challenge to the immune system is
> quite small compared to what the immune system does everyday.

Not if it has mercury in it! Are you exposed to mercury at such levels
everyday too are you?


>
> There is no reason to think that diabets is caused by immunization.
>
> > Many parent I know will stagger MMR
> > into 2 steps, why can't the doctor advise people to be safer if there
> > is reasonable doubt, why is it such a taboo to question.
>
> There is no reasonable doubt, though. It is more expensive to get the
> MMR in parts and not as well tested. Plus, doctors don't like to poke kids.
>
> Jeff

Hey Jeff, I think you better watch this doco and then maybe you will
realise that there is something other than HEALTH motivating the
medical INDUSTRY:

Deconstructing The Myth Of AIDS (Gary Null)
http :// video.google,com /videoplay?docid983706668483511310

Hey Jeff tell me something. In 1989 Poland announced that the
estimated figure of jewish deaths at Auschwitz was rather 1.5 million
and not 4 million. Accordingly they amended all the memorial plaques
and records in Poland which stated the false 4 million figure. This
false 4 million figure had been cited for 40 years.

So this means that the new Official figure for murdered jews was now
only 3.5 million.

So how come everyone keeps saying that 6 million jews died in the
Holcoaust?

And also, Like, how come the media didn't make a story about how it
turned out that The Holocaust had been exaggerated by almost twice??

How come your everyday joe blow in the west is still walking around
almost 20 years later stating, when asked how many jews died in WW2,
he will say like a parrot that it was six million?

What would Goethe say? In fact, what DID Goethe say?
"None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they
are free."
Johann Wolfgang von Goethe
08/28/1749 - 03/22/1832
German poet

Jeff, how much longer will western mainstream people allow themselves
to be abused like slaves?

Re: Vaccines are Strengthening our immune systems!

Midex wrote:

<...>

>> The number of antigens that are in an immunization are relatively small,
>> maybe a few thousand, at most. So the challenge to the immune system is
>> quite small compared to what the immune system does everyday.
>
> Not if it has mercury in it! Are you exposed to mercury at such levels
> everyday too are you?

No, I am exposed to higher levels of mercury. You see, mercury is no
longer in childhood vaccines, except for the flu vaccines.


>> There is no reason to think that diabets is caused by immunization.
>>
>>> Many parent I know will stagger MMR
>>> into 2 steps, why can't the doctor advise people to be safer if there
>>> is reasonable doubt, why is it such a taboo to question.
>> There is no reasonable doubt, though. It is more expensive to get the
>> MMR in parts and not as well tested. Plus, doctors don't like to poke kids.
>>
>> Jeff
>
> Hey Jeff, I think you better watch this doco and then maybe you will
> realise that there is something other than HEALTH motivating the
> medical INDUSTRY:

What do you mean will realize this? I have known this for a while. If
you will look at my posts, you will realize that I am well aware of the
fact that insurance companies, drug companies and medical device
companies are interested in protecting stock holders, not patients. This
doesn't mean that vaccines are not safe or effective.

However, the source you site below is a waste of paper.

And responding to your ignorance is a waste of time.

Until you say something useful, case closed.

jeff


> Deconstructing The Myth Of AIDS (Gary Null)
> http :// video.google,com /videoplay?docid983706668483511310
>
> Hey Jeff tell me something. In 1989 Poland announced that the
> estimated figure of jewish deaths at Auschwitz was rather 1.5 million
> and not 4 million. Accordingly they amended all the memorial plaques
> and records in Poland which stated the false 4 million figure. This
> false 4 million figure had been cited for 40 years.
>
> So this means that the new Official figure for murdered jews was now
> only 3.5 million.
>
> So how come everyone keeps saying that 6 million jews died in the
> Holcoaust?
>
> And also, Like, how come the media didn't make a story about how it
> turned out that The Holocaust had been exaggerated by almost twice??
>
> How come your everyday joe blow in the west is still walking around
> almost 20 years later stating, when asked how many jews died in WW2,
> he will say like a parrot that it was six million?
>
> What would Goethe say? In fact, what DID Goethe say?
> "None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they
> are free."
> Johann Wolfgang von Goethe
> 08/28/1749 - 03/22/1832
> German poet
>
> Jeff, how much longer will western mainstream people allow themselves
> to be abused like slaves?
>
>
>
>

Re: Vaccines are Strengthening our immune systems!


"Jeff" repeated the repeated excuse repeatedly.............

> Correlation does not mean causation.

> >
> Jeff

Re: Vaccines are Strengthening our immune systems!

On 25 jan, 21:23, Jeff <kidsdoc2...@hotmail,com > wrote:
> SKD wrote:
> > On Jan 26, 4:03 am, The One True Zhen Jue <Andrew King...@yahoo,com >
> > wrote:
> >> On Jan 25, 12:00 pm, BreastImplantAwareness.org <B...@mundo,com >
> >> wrote:
>
> >>> Jeff P Utz claims:
> >>>> I am nearly 100% sure that autism is not caused by vaccines, which is the question
> >>>> Vaccines don't tamper with the immune system.
> >> Vaccines Strengthen the Immune System.
>
> >> Do make a note of it.
>
> > In theory yes. However there is always a tipping point, overload the
> > system and it might break it down. I for one am keeping an open mind
> > on incidences of autism and early childhood diabetes skyrocketing with
> > aggressive immunisation.
>
> They're also increasing with skyrocketing internet usage! And
> skyrocketing soccer and NASCAR popularity. Correlation does not mean
> causation.

Non-sequitur. NASCAR popularity could not in any conceivable way
affect the human autoimmune system. Nor could internet usage.

Howver sticking fucking mercury into someone COULD.


>
> I keep an open mind. And everything I have read and learned tells me
> that autism and diabetes are NOT caused by immunizations. And lives are
> saved every day by immunizations.
>
> Jeff

Re: Vaccines are Strengthening our immune systems!

Midex wrote:
> On 25 jan, 21:23, Jeff <kidsdoc2...@hotmail,com > wrote:
>> SKD wrote:
>>> On Jan 26, 4:03 am, The One True Zhen Jue <Andrew King...@yahoo,com >
>>> wrote:
>>>> On Jan 25, 12:00 pm, BreastImplantAwareness.org <B...@mundo,com >
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> Jeff P Utz claims:
>>>>>> I am nearly 100% sure that autism is not caused by vaccines, which is the question
>>>>>> Vaccines don't tamper with the immune system.
>>>> Vaccines Strengthen the Immune System.
>>>> Do make a note of it.
>>> In theory yes. However there is always a tipping point, overload the
>>> system and it might break it down. I for one am keeping an open mind
>>> on incidences of autism and early childhood diabetes skyrocketing with
>>> aggressive immunisation.
>> They're also increasing with skyrocketing internet usage! And
>> skyrocketing soccer and NASCAR popularity. Correlation does not mean
>> causation.
>
> Non-sequitur. NASCAR popularity could not in any conceivable way
> affect the human autoimmune system. Nor could internet usage.
>
> Howver sticking fucking mercury into someone COULD.

Yet, the rates of autism did not go down when mercury was removed from
vaccines.

This demonstrates that mercury is not responsible for the rise in the
rates of autism.

Jeff

>> I keep an open mind. And everything I have read and learned tells me
>> that autism and diabetes are NOT caused by immunizations. And lives are
>> saved every day by immunizations.
>>
>> Jeff
>

Re: Vaccines are Strengthening our immune systems!


"Jeff" <kidsdoc2000@hotmail,com > wrote in message
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Jeff" <kidsdoc2000@hotmail,com > wrote in message
news:DfFnj.6814$ZO5.4904@trnddc03...

And responding to your ignorance is a waste of time.

Until you say something useful, case closed.

jeff

Sure gald Jeff..notkidsdoc is not
responding...................................

Re: Vaccines are Strengthening our immune systems!

In article <9736863a-6b6a-4ffd-9cf4-bba7dfc9425d@f10g2000hsf.googlegroups,com >,
Midex <milliondollarexecutive@gmail,com > wrote:
>On 25 jan, 21:23, Jeff <kidsdoc2...@hotmail,com > wrote:
>> SKD wrote:
>> > On Jan 26, 4:03 am, The One True Zhen Jue <Andrew_King...@yahoo,com >
>> > wrote:
>> >> On Jan 25, 12:00 pm, BreastImplantAwareness.org <B...@mundo,com >
>> >> wrote:
>>
>> >>> Jeff P Utz claims:
>> >>>> I am nearly 100% sure that autism is not caused by vaccines,
>which is the question
>> >>>> Vaccines don't tamper with the immune system.
>> >> Vaccines Strengthen the Immune System.
>>
>> >> Do make a note of it.
>>
>> > In theory yes. However there is always a tipping point, overload the
>> > system and it might break it down. I for one am keeping an open mind
>> > on incidences of autism and early childhood diabetes skyrocketing with
>> > aggressive immunisation.
>>
>> They're also increasing with skyrocketing internet usage! And
>> skyrocketing soccer and NASCAR popularity. Correlation does not mean
>> causation.
>
>Non-sequitur. NASCAR popularity could not in any conceivable way
>affect the human autoimmune system. Nor could internet usage.

Both could. Using the internet can cause stress. Going to a NASCAR
race exposes one to fumes of varying types.

Both affect the immune system.

>Howver sticking fucking mercury into someone COULD.

Not at these dosages.

-- David Wright :: alphabeta at copper,net
These are my opinions only, but they're almost always correct.
"Without Bush, what will America's schoolchildren have to look down on?"
-- Bill Maher

Re: Vaccines are Strengthening our immune systems!

In article <a0911a47-865a-458e-80e5-30f4dd801924@h11g2000prf.googlegroups,com >,
SKD <sherkd@hotmail,com > wrote:
>On Jan 26, 4:03 am, The One True Zhen Jue <Andrew_King...@yahoo,com >
>wrote:
>> On Jan 25, 12:00 pm, BreastImplantAwareness.org <B...@mundo,com >
>> wrote:
>>
>> > Jeff P Utz claims:
>>
>> > > I am nearly 100% sure that autism is not caused by vaccines, which
>is the question
>> > >Vaccines don't tamper with the immune system.
>>
>> Vaccines Strengthen the Immune System.
>>
>> Do make a note of it.
>
>In theory yes. However there is always a tipping point, overload the
>system and it might break it down. I for one am keeping an open mind
>on incidences of autism and early childhood diabetes skyrocketing with
>aggressive immunisation.

It's questionable that autism is, in fact, skyrocketing.

-- David Wright :: alphabeta at copper,net
These are my opinions only, but they're almost always correct.
"Without Bush, what will America's schoolchildren have to look down on?"
-- Bill Maher