HOMEOPATHY WORKED FOR ME

HOMEOPATHY WORKED FOR ME

DEFEND YOUR CHOICE IN MEDICINE
To counter the vitriolic attacks in the media and the government
decision to close the homeopathic hospitals, HMC21 (Homeopathy:Medicine for
the 21st Century), has published a website w w w .hmc21.org and a declaration
that states HOMEOPATHY WORKED FOR ME (just follow the links). Our aim is to
get 250,000 signatures by next June and march them to number 10, Downing
Street with the demand that the NHS honours its commitment to homeopathy as
enshrined in its charter. If you have ever benefited by a homeopathic
remedy, whether self-prescribed or otherwise, then you are eligible to sign.
It will take you very little time and will be a great contribution to the
success of this project. One form per family member please. Michelle Shine

Re: HOMEOPATHY WORKED FOR ME

MS(JOHN): Thanks for the link. Paul

On Feb 22, 1:08 pm, "JOHN" <j...@nospam . com > wrote:
>       DEFEND YOUR CHOICE IN MEDICINE
>       To counter the vitriolic attacks in the media and the governme=
nt
> decision to close the homeopathic hospitals, HMC21 (Homeopathy:Medicine fo=
r
> the 21st Century), has published a websitew w w .hmc21.organd a declaration
> that states HOMEOPATHY WORKED FOR ME (just follow the links). Our aim is t=
o
> get 250,000 signatures by next June and march them to number 10, Downing
> Street with the demand that the NHS honours its commitment to homeopathy a=
s
> enshrined in its charter. If you have ever benefited by a homeopathic
> remedy, whether self-prescribed or otherwise, then you are eligible to sig=
n.
> It will take you very little time and will be a great contribution to the
> success of this project. One form per family member please. Michelle Shine=

Re: HOMEOPATHY WORKED FOR ME


"JOHN" <john@nospam . com > wrote in message
news:gaCdnRKxDcVdgCLanZ2dnUVZ8h6dnZ2d@bt . com ...
> DEFEND YOUR CHOICE IN MEDICINE
> To counter the vitriolic attacks in the media and the government
> decision to close the homeopathic hospitals, HMC21 (Homeopathy:Medicine
> for the 21st Century), has published a website w w w .hmc1800.org and a
> declaration that states HOMEOPATHY WORKED FOR ME (just follow the links).

Ooooh, goody... when they fail to show with science that homeopathy does
anything, just try to flood with anecdotes!

Too bad actual science fails to show that homeopathy does any good. And
there are plenty of anecdotes that homeopathy does NOT work:
* whatstheharm . net /homeopathy.html

By the way, still wondering where the actual evidence that Andre Saine has
that homeopathy works better for rabies than modern medicine. How willing
are you to trust it when the disease is 100% fatal?



Our aim is to
> get 250,000 signatures by next June and march them to number 10, Downing
> Street with the demand that the NHS honours its commitment to homeopathy
> as enshrined in its charter. If you have ever benefited by a homeopathic
> remedy, whether self-prescribed or otherwise, then you are eligible to
> sign. It will take you very little time and will be a great contribution
> to the success of this project. One form per family member please.
> Michelle Shine
>
>

Re: HOMEOPATHY WORKED FOR ME

On Feb 23, 12:49 pm, "HCN" <h...@nospam . com > wrote:
>
> Ooooh, goody... when they fail to show with science that homeopathy does
> anything, just try to flood with anecdotes!
>
> Too bad actual science fails to show that homeopathy does any good.  And=

> there are plenty of anecdotes that homeopathy does NOT work: * whatsth=
eharm . net /homeopathy.html


Let us consider the scientifically valid death toll:

Homeopathy: 0 , none , nada.

Allopathy: 250,000 per year just in the USA and counting more.

So, tell us again that we must trust our docs and go to our graves
broke.
>


> By the way, still wondering where the actual evidence that Andre Saine has=

> that homeopathy works better for rabies than modern medicine.  How willi=
ng
> are you to trust it when the disease is 100% fatal?

Rabies?? You still flogging that lie? The only way to stop and
prevent rabies has been found to burn the Pasteur rabies clinics to
the ground and run the blood poisoners out of town. Rabies is another
non-disease probagated by the stupid allopathic liars.

>
> Our aim is to
>
I think you aim is to lie to everyone and get the dumb sheeple back in
line for more shots and poisonus drugs.

DrCee
Not a member of the medical monopoly

Re: HOMEOPATHY WORKED FOR ME


<drceephd@insightbb . com > wrote in message
news:54db1ce3-890b-4065-b34a-415f3b1ba0ef@k2g2000hse.googlegroups . com ...
On Feb 23, 12:49 pm, "HCN" <h...@nospam . com > wrote:
>
> Ooooh, goody... when they fail to show with science that homeopathy does
> anything, just try to flood with anecdotes!
>
> Too bad actual science fails to show that homeopathy does any good. And
> there are plenty of anecdotes that homeopathy does NOT
> work: * whatstheharm . net /homeopathy.html


Let us consider the scientifically valid death toll:


the fact that homeopathy does not "kill" is no positive marker....if it does
no good.. . it is useless

the "death toll" from conventional is likely higher cuz of all the jerks who
try useless stuff and when it fails..then show up and wonder why
conventional has its risks...



Homeopathy: 0 , none , nada.

Allopathy: 250,000 per year just in the USA and counting more.

So, tell us again that we must trust our docs and go to our graves
broke.
>


> By the way, still wondering where the actual evidence that Andre Saine has
> that homeopathy works better for rabies than modern medicine. How willing
> are you to trust it when the disease is 100% fatal?

Rabies?? You still flogging that lie? The only way to stop and
prevent rabies has been found to burn the Pasteur rabies clinics to
the ground and run the blood poisoners out of town. Rabies is another
non-disease probagated by the stupid allopathic liars.

>
> Our aim is to
>
I think you aim is to lie to everyone and get the dumb sheeple back in
line for more shots and poisonus drugs.

DrCee
Not a member of the medical monopoly

Re: HOMEOPATHY WORKED FOR ME

VULTURE: Caw! Caw! Caw!
The sound of a predator.
What is your contribution
to this altmed group?
Harrassment!

PA

On Feb 23, 4:11 pm, <Hawk...@sbcglobal . net > wrote:
> <drcee...@insightbb . com > wrote in message
>
> news:54db1ce3-890b-4065-b34a-415f3b1ba0ef@k2g2000hse.googlegroups . com ...
> On Feb 23, 12:49 pm, "HCN" <h...@nospam . com > wrote:
>
>
>
> > Ooooh, goody... when they fail to show with science that homeopathy does=

> > anything, just try to flood with anecdotes!
>
> > Too bad actual science fails to show that homeopathy does any good. And
> > there are plenty of anecdotes that homeopathy does NOT
> > work: * whatstheharm . net /homeopathy.html
>
> Let us consider the scientifically valid death toll:
>
> the fact that homeopathy does not "kill" is no positive marker....if it do=
es
> no good.. . it is useless
>
> the "death toll" from conventional is likely higher cuz of all the jerks w=
ho
> try useless stuff and when it fails..then show up and wonder why
> conventional has its risks...
>
> Homeopathy:  0 , none , nada.
>
> Allopathy: 250,000 per year just in the USA and counting more.
>
> So, tell us again that we must trust our docs and go to our graves
> broke.
>
>
>
> > By the way, still wondering where the actual evidence that Andre Saine h=
as
> > that homeopathy works better for rabies than modern medicine. How willin=
g
> > are you to trust it when the disease is 100% fatal?
>
> Rabies??  You still flogging that lie?  The only way to stop and
> prevent rabies has been found to burn the Pasteur rabies clinics to
> the ground and run the blood poisoners out of town.  Rabies is another
> non-disease probagated by the stupid allopathic liars.
>
>
>
> > Our aim is to
>
> I think you aim is to lie to everyone and get the dumb sheeple back in
> line for more shots and poisonus drugs.
>
> DrCee
> Not a member of the medical monopoly

Re: HOMEOPATHY WORKED FOR ME


<Hawki63@sbcglobal . net > wrote in message
news:aS0wj.5760$Mw.1685@nlpi068.nbdc.sbc . com ...
>
> <drceephd@insightbb . com > wrote in message
> news:54db1ce3-890b-4065-b34a-415f3b1ba0ef@k2g2000hse.googlegroups . com ...
> On Feb 23, 12:49 pm, "HCN" <h...@nospam . com > wrote:
>>
>> Ooooh, goody... when they fail to show with science that homeopathy does
>> anything, just try to flood with anecdotes!
>>
>> Too bad actual science fails to show that homeopathy does any good. And
>> there are plenty of anecdotes that homeopathy does NOT
>> work: * whatstheharm . net /homeopathy.html
>
>
> Let us consider the scientifically valid death toll:
>
>
> the fact that homeopathy does not "kill" is no positive marker....if it
> does no good.. . it is useless
>
> the "death toll" from conventional is likely higher cuz of all the jerks
> who try useless stuff and when it fails..then show up and wonder why
> conventional has its risks...
>
>
>
> Homeopathy: 0 , none , nada.
>
> Allopathy: 250,000 per year just in the USA and counting more.
>
> So, tell us again that we must trust our docs and go to our graves
> broke.
>>
>
>
>> By the way, still wondering where the actual evidence that Andre Saine
>> has
>> that homeopathy works better for rabies than modern medicine. How willing
>> are you to trust it when the disease is 100% fatal?
>
> Rabies?? You still flogging that lie? The only way to stop and
> prevent rabies has been found to burn the Pasteur rabies clinics to
> the ground and run the blood poisoners out of town. Rabies is another
> non-disease probagated by the stupid allopathic liars.

* w w w .youtube . com /watch?v=dScdr8Dly4g





>
>>
>> Our aim is to
>>
> I think you aim is to lie to everyone and get the dumb sheeple back in
> line for more shots and poisonus drugs.
>
> DrCee
> Not a member of the medical monopoly
>

Re: HOMEOPATHY WORKED FOR ME

In message <QO6dnf_Jz8XeAl3anZ2dnUVZ_u2mnZ2d@comcast . com >, HCN wrote:

> * w w w .youtube . com /watch?v=dScdr8Dly4g

The nice thing about posting links as your only response is
that by taking the argument out of the posts you at best
make the other person try to abstract a rambling 20,000
word spew into a newspost-sized thesis for rebuttal, so
they do all the work. For extra entertainment you can
then dispute the abstract.

IMHO it's a crappy, rude pseudo-argumentative style that
gives up on presenting any worthwhile content in favor
of "winning" an argument by making an exchange of views
impossible. It's telling that until recently Scudamore
was the main MHA practitioner of the "art."

Now, if that's true of a fundamentally textual webpage,
what can we say of a link to YouTube? There isn't even
any text _to_ cut and paste, it can't be skimmed and
reviewed, etc. It has all the intellectual content of
an infomercial.

So, bottom line: you win. Whatever was there, it's the
end of the discussion. You can tell yourself that you're
much cleverer than all of us, that you UTTERLY ROCK at
debate, that you have utterly mad skilz on Usenet.

Maybe you can make a record of yourself saying so into
the camera and put it up on YouTube.

--
| The most important exclamation in science isn't "Eureka!" |
| The most important exclamation is "What the BLEEP?" |
+---------- D. C. Sessions <dcs@lumbercartel . com > ----------+

Re: HOMEOPATHY WORKED FOR ME


<Hawki63@sbcglobal . net > wrote in message
news:aS0wj.5760$Mw.1685@nlpi068.nbdc.sbc . com ...
>
> <drceephd@insightbb . com > wrote in message
....

Hawki, there is a reason why I have the NOT-drceepee in my killfile.
Especially its claim that rabies is a fiction.

Re: HOMEOPATHY WORKED FOR ME

On Feb 23, 5:02 pm, drcee...@insightbb . com wrote:
> On Feb 23, 12:49 pm, "HCN" <h...@nospam . com > wrote:
>
>
>
> > Ooooh, goody... when they fail to show with science that homeopathy does=

> > anything, just try to flood with anecdotes!
>
> > Too bad actual science fails to show that homeopathy does any good.  A=
nd
> > there are plenty of anecdotes that homeopathy does NOT work: * whats=
theharm . net /homeopathy.html
>
> Let us consider the scientifically valid death toll:
>
> Homeopathy:  0 , none , nada.

Wrong, Chuckie.

* whatstheharm . net /homeopathy.html

No doubt there are more.

Re: HOMEOPATHY WORKED FOR ME

On Feb 23, 9:16 pm, Mark Probert <mark.prob...@gmail . com > wrote:
> On Feb 23, 5:02 pm, drcee...@insightbb . com wrote:
>
> > On Feb 23, 12:49 pm, "HCN" <h...@nospam . com > wrote:
>
> > > Ooooh, goody... when they fail to show with science that homeopathy do=
es
> > > anything, just try to flood with anecdotes!
>
> > > Too bad actual science fails to show that homeopathy does any good. =
 And
> > > there are plenty of anecdotes that homeopathy does NOT work: * wha=
tstheharm . net /homeopathy.html
>
> > Let us consider the scientifically valid death toll:
>
> > Homeopathy:  0 , none , nada.
>
> Wrong, Chuckie.
>
> * whatstheharm . net /homeopathy.html
>
> No doubt there are more.

The Marked Pervert responds in his usual incompetent style.

The homeopathic remedies cited killed no one. Please try again.

All you pharma shills contend that homeopathic remedies are nothing
more than shaken water. How can a few mls of shaken water kill?

Please rev up your spin machines and come up with another reason.

DrCee
Not a pharma shill

Re: HOMEOPATHY WORKED FOR ME

On Feb 23, 10:00 pm, drcee...@insightbb . com wrote:
> On Feb 23, 9:16 pm, Mark Probert <mark.prob...@gmail . com > wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Feb 23, 5:02 pm, drcee...@insightbb . com wrote:
>
> > > On Feb 23, 12:49 pm, "HCN" <h...@nospam . com > wrote:
>
> > > > Ooooh, goody... when they fail to show with science that homeopathy does
> > > > anything, just try to flood with anecdotes!
>
> > > > Too bad actual science fails to show that homeopathy does any good. And
> > > > there are plenty of anecdotes that homeopathy does NOT work: * whatstheharm . net /homeopathy.html
>
> > > Let us consider the scientifically valid death toll:
>
> > > Homeopathy: 0 , none , nada.
>
> > Wrong, Chuckie.
>
> > * whatstheharm . net /homeopathy.html
>
> > No doubt there are more.
>
> The Marked Pervert responds in his usual incompetent style.
>
> The homeopathic remedies cited killed no one. Please try again.

Asshole, the reliance on homeopathy, a/k/a quackery, is what killed
them. Homeopathy is USELESS. It does not "work" and using it instead
of real treatment kills.

>
> All you pharma shills contend that homeopathic remedies are nothing
> more than shaken water. How can a few mls of shaken water kill?

See above, moron-murderer.

>
> Please rev up your spin machines and come up with another reason.

The only thing that is spinning is the air in your vacuous head.

Re: HOMEOPATHY WORKED FOR ME

On Feb 24, 10:55 am, Mark Probert <mark.prob...@gmail . com > wrote:

Unfortunately Mark, in other threads I challenged
the often repeated fallacies that Homeopathy
does not work by listing numerous Homeopathic
and standard medicine research journals which
reported tests, even double blind placebo tests
which gave POSITIVE results.

PLEASE, do NOT insult our intelligence
by repeating these fallacies.

I understand that you hate Homeopathy
and see it as some sort of deception
and I sympathize with your position.

In addition, there is most certainly the possibility
of damage from INEPT practice of Homeopathy
just as there is from M.D. errors. I OBJECT
to your apparent toleration and dismissal
of the huge number of M.D. errors, sometimes
resulting in death, and then your accusations
regarding injury or death from Homeopathy
as validation that it does not work. This
circular reasoning, adaption of a double standard
(heads you win, tails we lose) and other
obvious logical fallacies regarding Homeopathy
will NO LONGER be allowed to go by unnoticed
and therefore - the IDENTIFICATION of these
fallacies undermine and/or render you argumentation
invalid.

Sorry!

Citizen Jimserac

Re: HOMEOPATHY WORKED FOR ME

On Feb 24, 1:53 pm, Citizen Jimserac <Jimse...@gmail . com > wrote:
> On Feb 24, 10:55 am, Mark Probert <mark.prob...@gmail . com > wrote:
>
> Unfortunately Mark, in other threads I challenged
> the often repeated fallacies that Homeopathy
> does not work by listing numerous Homeopathic
> and standard medicine research journals which
> reported tests, even double blind placebo tests
> which gave POSITIVE results.

I read them, and the rebuttals. I go by my statement. Being published
in a homeopathic journal means nothing, since the reviewer accepts the
fundamental precepts of homeopathy. Since I reject those, as being
against the fundamental laws of science and nature, I discount all
research showing that homeopathy "works" whatever that is supposed to
mean.

> PLEASE, do NOT insult our intelligence
> by repeating these fallacies.

When an advocate for homeopathy shows some intelligence, trust me, I
will not insult it. However, if an advocate for homeopathy develops
intelligence, they will stop being an advocate for homeopathy.

> I understand that you hate Homeopathy
> and see it as some sort of deception
> and I sympathize with your position.

I do not *hate* it. I call it what it is, i.e., charlatanism.

> In addition, there is most certainly the possibility
> of damage from INEPT practice of Homeopathy
> just as there is from M.D. errors. I OBJECT
> to your apparent toleration and dismissal
> of the huge number of M.D. errors,

There ya go, playing that bullshit card again, raising red herrings.
Do not put words in my mouth. When a REAL DOCTOR screws up, I expect
them to be treated accordingly. In the course of my business, I have
reported doctors to my clients who done something unethical, illegal
or improper. When I suspect that there is a question of treatment
problems, I also report it.

sometimes
> resulting in death, and then your accusations
> regarding injury or death from Homeopathy
> as validation that it does not work.

Do learn to read for comprehension. I *PROVED* that homeopathy is
dangerous since it lulls people into avoiding possibly more effective
treatment by using utterly useless treatment. Homeopathy is so useless
it is absolutely safe, since it does nothing.

This
> circular reasoning, adaption of a double standard
> (heads you win, tails we lose) and other
> obvious logical fallacies regarding Homeopathy

Yes, logical fallacies used by YOU and other homeo-apologists who have
no verifiable facts to use to prove that your charlatanism is
effective.

> will NO LONGER be allowed to go by unnoticed
> and therefore - the IDENTIFICATION of these
> fallacies undermine and/or render you argumentation
> invalid.

Sorry, bub, but it is you and the other apologists who use fallacious
arguments, as you have done here.

>
> Sorry!

Yes, you should be sorry to advocate for such quackery.

>
> Citizen Jimserac

Re: HOMEOPATHY WORKED FOR ME

On Feb 24, 7:32 pm, Mark Probert <mark.prob...@gmail . com >
>
> I read them, and the rebuttals. I go by my statement. Being published
> in a homeopathic journal means nothing, since the reviewer accepts the
> fundamental precepts of homeopathy. Since I reject those, as being
> against the fundamental laws of science and nature, I discount all
> research showing that homeopathy "works" whatever that is supposed to
> mean.

Many thanks for admitting this fallacious assumption "up front".

By presupposing that ALL research in ALL Homeopathy
Journals is automatically invalid (including
even research done by NON-Homeopathists)
you have entered yourself into a realm far
darker than any quack or charlatan
and have knocked yourself OUT of any additional
discussion.

Thanks for making it easy to invalidate your position!

Citizen Jimserac