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The 'Vaccines are safe' lie

Reply from: Mark Probert
Date: 21 Oct 2007, 02:58
Re: The 'Vaccines are safe' lie

Kevysmom wrote:
>> Conflict of Interest doesn't exist in the world of "evidence-based
>> medicine". Because it's the magical world at the end of a Yellow Brick
>> Road -- where any sort of toxic sludge turns to gold!
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Yuri.
>>
>> Yuri Kuchinsky -- http :// www .globalserve,net /~yuku
>
>
> You have a wonderful gift with words!!!

Having a gift with words is not up to having a gift with facts.

I really enjoyed reading
> somethings on your web page!
>
> Thank You Yuri!
>
>
> On Oct 20, 2:59 pm, "Yuri Kuchinsky" <y...@trends.ca> wrote:
>> "Kevysmom" <bluebun...@gmail,com > wrote in message
>>
>> news:1192900949.618048.242430@v29g2000prd.googlegroups,com ...
>>
>>>> Paul Offitt is way more well informed that you are mis-informed. He
>>>> knows what he is talking about. You don't.
>>> Isnt Paul OFF His rocker paid by Merck....One of the Pharmecutical
>>> companies that
>>> is being SUED for injecting Mercury into Infants!!! Can we say
>>> "Conflict of Interest"!
>> Conflict of Interest doesn't exist in the world of "evidence-based
>> medicine". Because it's the magical world at the end of a Yellow Brick
>> Road -- where any sort of toxic sludge turns to gold!
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Yuri.
>>
>> Yuri Kuchinsky -- http :// www .globalserve,net /~yuku
>>
>> "Modern medicine" may well be defined as "the experimental study of what
>> happens when poisonous chemicals are placed into malnourished human
>> bodies." -- A. Saul, Contributing Editor, Journal of Orthomolecular
>> Medicine -- http :// www .orthomed.org
>
>

Reply from: Yuri Kuchinsky
Date: 23 Oct 2007, 22:52
Re: The 'Vaccines are safe' lie


"Kevysmom" <bluebunny8@gmail,com > wrote in message
news:1192909938.845089.99150@i38g2000prf.googlegroups,com ...

>> Conflict of Interest doesn't exist in the world of "evidence-based
>> medicine". Because it's the magical world at the end of a Yellow Brick
>> Road -- where any sort of toxic sludge turns to gold!
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Yuri.
>>
>> Yuri Kuchinsky -- http :// www .globalserve,net /~yuku
>
>
> You have a wonderful gift with words!!! I really enjoyed reading
> somethings on your web page!
>
> Thank You Yuri!
>
>
> On Oct 20, 2:59 pm, "Yuri Kuchinsky" <y...@trends.ca> wrote:
>> "Kevysmom" <bluebun...@gmail,com > wrote in message
>>
>> news:1192900949.618048.242430@v29g2000prd.googlegroups,com ...
>>
>> >> Paul Offitt is way more well informed that you are mis-informed. He
>> >> knows what he is talking about. You don't.
>>
>> > Isnt Paul OFF His rocker paid by Merck....One of the Pharmecutical
>> > companies that
>> > is being SUED for injecting Mercury into Infants!!! Can we say
>> > "Conflict of Interest"!
>>
>> Conflict of Interest doesn't exist in the world of "evidence-based
>> medicine". Because it's the magical world at the end of a Yellow Brick
>> Road -- where any sort of toxic sludge turns to gold!
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Yuri.
>>
>> Yuri Kuchinsky -- http :// www .globalserve,net /~yuku
>>
>> "Modern medicine" may well be defined as "the experimental study of what
>> happens when poisonous chemicals are placed into malnourished human
>> bodies." -- A. Saul, Contributing Editor, Journal of Orthomolecular
>> Medicine -- http :// www .orthomed.org

Thank you for your kind words, Kevysmom!

Have you heard about the interview that Oprah did recently with Jenny
McCarthy?

http :// adventuresinautism.blogspot,com /2007/09/jenny-mccarthy-on-oprah-vaccine-injury.html

"Yesterday [Sept 18, 2007], after 22 years, Oprah finally talked about
vaccine injured children when she interviewed Hollywood Moms, Jenny McCarthy
and Holly Peete. Jenny has written a book on her experience of watching her
two and a half year old son regress into autism after an MMR shot. "

So the info is finally getting out to the parents about the dangers of
vaccines. They have been betrayed by our corrupt medical profession.

All the best,

Yuri.

"The only safe vaccine is one that is never used." -- Dr. James R. Shannon,
former director of the National Institute of Health (US).



Reply from: Mark Probert
Date: 24 Oct 2007, 11:59
Re: The 'Vaccines are safe' lie

Yuri Kuchinsky wrote:
> "Kevysmom" <bluebunny8@gmail,com > wrote in message
> news:1192909938.845089.99150@i38g2000prf.googlegroups,com ...
>
>>> Conflict of Interest doesn't exist in the world of "evidence-based
>>> medicine". Because it's the magical world at the end of a Yellow Brick
>>> Road -- where any sort of toxic sludge turns to gold!
>>>
>>> Best,
>>>
>>> Yuri.
>>>
>>> Yuri Kuchinsky -- http :// www .globalserve,net /~yuku
>>
>> You have a wonderful gift with words!!! I really enjoyed reading
>> somethings on your web page!
>>
>> Thank You Yuri!
>>
>>
>> On Oct 20, 2:59 pm, "Yuri Kuchinsky" <y...@trends.ca> wrote:
>>> "Kevysmom" <bluebun...@gmail,com > wrote in message
>>>
>>> news:1192900949.618048.242430@v29g2000prd.googlegroups,com ...
>>>
>>>>> Paul Offitt is way more well informed that you are mis-informed. He
>>>>> knows what he is talking about. You don't.
>>>> Isnt Paul OFF His rocker paid by Merck....One of the Pharmecutical
>>>> companies that
>>>> is being SUED for injecting Mercury into Infants!!! Can we say
>>>> "Conflict of Interest"!
>>> Conflict of Interest doesn't exist in the world of "evidence-based
>>> medicine". Because it's the magical world at the end of a Yellow Brick
>>> Road -- where any sort of toxic sludge turns to gold!
>>>
>>> Best,
>>>
>>> Yuri.
>>>
>>> Yuri Kuchinsky -- http :// www .globalserve,net /~yuku
>>>
>>> "Modern medicine" may well be defined as "the experimental study of what
>>> happens when poisonous chemicals are placed into malnourished human
>>> bodies." -- A. Saul, Contributing Editor, Journal of Orthomolecular
>>> Medicine -- http :// www .orthomed.org
>
> Thank you for your kind words, Kevysmom!
>
> Have you heard about the interview that Oprah did recently with Jenny
> McCarthy?

You mean the former Playboy centerfold? Is that where you go to get your
medical information?

Reply from: Yuri Kuchinsky
Date: 24 Oct 2007, 20:13
Re: The 'Vaccines are safe' lie


"Mark Probert" <markprobert@lumbercartel,com > wrote in message
news:asGTi.2083$f63.335@trndny03...
> Yuri Kuchinsky wrote:
>> "Kevysmom" <bluebunny8@gmail,com > wrote in message
>> news:1192909938.845089.99150@i38g2000prf.googlegroups,com ...
>>
>>>> Conflict of Interest doesn't exist in the world of "evidence-based
>>>> medicine". Because it's the magical world at the end of a Yellow Brick
>>>> Road -- where any sort of toxic sludge turns to gold!
>>>>
>>>> Best,
>>>>
>>>> Yuri.
>>>>
>>>> Yuri Kuchinsky -- http :// www .globalserve,net /~yuku
>>>
>>> You have a wonderful gift with words!!! I really enjoyed reading
>>> somethings on your web page!
>>>
>>> Thank You Yuri!
>>>
>>>
>>> On Oct 20, 2:59 pm, "Yuri Kuchinsky" <y...@trends.ca> wrote:
>>>> "Kevysmom" <bluebun...@gmail,com > wrote in message
>>>>
>>>> news:1192900949.618048.242430@v29g2000prd.googlegroups,com ...
>>>>
>>>>>> Paul Offitt is way more well informed that you are mis-informed. He
>>>>>> knows what he is talking about. You don't.
>>>>> Isnt Paul OFF His rocker paid by Merck....One of the Pharmecutical
>>>>> companies that
>>>>> is being SUED for injecting Mercury into Infants!!! Can we say
>>>>> "Conflict of Interest"!
>>>> Conflict of Interest doesn't exist in the world of "evidence-based
>>>> medicine". Because it's the magical world at the end of a Yellow Brick
>>>> Road -- where any sort of toxic sludge turns to gold!
>>>>
>>>> Best,
>>>>
>>>> Yuri.
>>>>
>>>> Yuri Kuchinsky -- http :// www .globalserve,net /~yuku
>>>>
>>>> "Modern medicine" may well be defined as "the experimental study of
>>>> what
>>>> happens when poisonous chemicals are placed into malnourished human
>>>> bodies." -- A. Saul, Contributing Editor, Journal of Orthomolecular
>>>> Medicine -- http :// www .orthomed.org
>>
>> Thank you for your kind words, Kevysmom!
>>
>> Have you heard about the interview that Oprah did recently with Jenny
>> McCarthy?
>
> You mean the former Playboy centerfold? Is that where you go to get your
> medical information?

Sure, these are the people who were hurt by Corporate Medicine...

Yuri.

Yuri Kuchinsky -- http :// www .globalserve,net /~yuku

"I have not seen autism with the Amish," said Dr. Frank Noonan, a family
practitioner in Lancaster County, Pa., who has treated thousands of Amish
for a quarter-century. "You'll find all the other stuff, but we don't find
the autism. We're right in the heart of Amish country and seeing none, and
that's just the way it is."



Reply from: Mark Probert
Date: 25 Oct 2007, 12:02
Re: The 'Vaccines are safe' lie

Yuri Kuchinsky wrote:
> "Mark Probert" <markprobert@lumbercartel,com > wrote in message
> news:asGTi.2083$f63.335@trndny03...
>> Yuri Kuchinsky wrote:
>>> "Kevysmom" <bluebunny8@gmail,com > wrote in message
>>> news:1192909938.845089.99150@i38g2000prf.googlegroups,com ...
>>>
>>>>> Conflict of Interest doesn't exist in the world of "evidence-based
>>>>> medicine". Because it's the magical world at the end of a Yellow Brick
>>>>> Road -- where any sort of toxic sludge turns to gold!
>>>>>
>>>>> Best,
>>>>>
>>>>> Yuri.
>>>>>
>>>>> Yuri Kuchinsky -- http :// www .globalserve,net /~yuku
>>>> You have a wonderful gift with words!!! I really enjoyed reading
>>>> somethings on your web page!
>>>>
>>>> Thank You Yuri!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Oct 20, 2:59 pm, "Yuri Kuchinsky" <y...@trends.ca> wrote:
>>>>> "Kevysmom" <bluebun...@gmail,com > wrote in message
>>>>>
>>>>> news:1192900949.618048.242430@v29g2000prd.googlegroups,com ...
>>>>>
>>>>>>> Paul Offitt is way more well informed that you are mis-informed. He
>>>>>>> knows what he is talking about. You don't.
>>>>>> Isnt Paul OFF His rocker paid by Merck....One of the Pharmecutical
>>>>>> companies that
>>>>>> is being SUED for injecting Mercury into Infants!!! Can we say
>>>>>> "Conflict of Interest"!
>>>>> Conflict of Interest doesn't exist in the world of "evidence-based
>>>>> medicine". Because it's the magical world at the end of a Yellow Brick
>>>>> Road -- where any sort of toxic sludge turns to gold!
>>>>>
>>>>> Best,
>>>>>
>>>>> Yuri.
>>>>>
>>>>> Yuri Kuchinsky -- http :// www .globalserve,net /~yuku
>>>>>
>>>>> "Modern medicine" may well be defined as "the experimental study of
>>>>> what
>>>>> happens when poisonous chemicals are placed into malnourished human
>>>>> bodies." -- A. Saul, Contributing Editor, Journal of Orthomolecular
>>>>> Medicine -- http :// www .orthomed.org
>>> Thank you for your kind words, Kevysmom!
>>>
>>> Have you heard about the interview that Oprah did recently with Jenny
>>> McCarthy?
>> You mean the former Playboy centerfold? Is that where you go to get your
>> medical information?
>
> Sure, these are the people who were hurt by Corporate Medicine...


So you say. I prefer science, not idle conjecture.

Reply from: Yuri Kuchinsky
Date: 25 Oct 2007, 20:59
Re: The 'Vaccines are safe' lie


"Mark Probert" <markprobert@lumbercartel,com > wrote in message
news:bB%Ti.14890$na2.5521@trndny08...
> Yuri Kuchinsky wrote:
>> "Mark Probert" <markprobert@lumbercartel,com > wrote in message
>> news:asGTi.2083$f63.335@trndny03...
>>> Yuri Kuchinsky wrote:

>>>> Have you heard about the interview that Oprah did recently with Jenny
>>>> McCarthy?

>>> You mean the former Playboy centerfold? Is that where you go to get your
>>> medical information?
>>
>> Sure, these are the people who were hurt by Corporate Medicine...
>
> So you say. I prefer science, not idle conjecture.

Yes, I know your kind of $$$$$$$$$$cience...

Yuri.

Yuri Kuchinsky -- http :// www .globalserve,net /~yuku

The conclusion of the research report was: Children who received all of the
AAP recommended vaccinations were 14 times more likely to become learning
disabled and 8 times more likely to become autistic compared with children
who were never vaccinated. -- Donald Meserlian, P.E., VOSI Chairman & ASTM
Member March 2002
http :// www .whale.to/a/vosi.html



Reply from: Mark Probert
Date: 26 Oct 2007, 01:30
Re: The 'Vaccines are safe' lie

Yuri Kuchinsky wrote:
> "Mark Probert" <markprobert@lumbercartel,com > wrote in message
> news:bB%Ti.14890$na2.5521@trndny08...
>> Yuri Kuchinsky wrote:
>>> "Mark Probert" <markprobert@lumbercartel,com > wrote in message
>>> news:asGTi.2083$f63.335@trndny03...
>>>> Yuri Kuchinsky wrote:
>
>>>>> Have you heard about the interview that Oprah did recently with Jenny
>>>>> McCarthy?
>
>>>> You mean the former Playboy centerfold? Is that where you go to get your
>>>> medical information?
>>> Sure, these are the people who were hurt by Corporate Medicine...
>> So you say. I prefer science, not idle conjecture.
>
> Yes, I know your kind of $$$$$$$$$$cience...
>
> Yuri.
>
> Yuri Kuchinsky -- http :// www .globalserve,net /~yuku
>
> The conclusion of the research report was: Children who received all of the
> AAP recommended vaccinations were 14 times more likely to become learning
> disabled and 8 times more likely to become autistic compared with children
> who were never vaccinated. -- Donald Meserlian, P.E., VOSI Chairman & ASTM
> Member March 2002
> http :// www .whale.to/a/vosi.html
>
>

BWhahahahahahahaha1

You cited Whale, which says all any intelligent person needs to know
about you.

And, citing an engineer cited by whale is even funnier.

Reply from: Kevysmom
Date: 24 Oct 2007, 16:23
Re: The 'Vaccines are safe' lie

> So the info is finally getting out to the parents about the dangers of
> vaccines. They have been betrayed by our corrupt medical profession.


Just like WE were all betrayed by our government into attacking Iraq.

One of the Pharma Scientist try to put the blame on Doctors for
injecting
the babies with mercury..He said "The Doctors should read what they
are injecting
into the babies"

When I first found out about the mercury in Rhogam, I wrote to
hundreds of OBGYN'S
across the Nation to let them know what they were injecting into
pregnant women, I also enclosed the
Petition from bayer where they tried to get Thimerosal taken off the
list as a reproductive toxin.

The results of that petition was that Thimerosal is a Neurotoxin that
has been PROVEN to cause
Severe Mental Retardation to the fetus.


One OBGYN Clinic that I had written to, I sent my letter to the Head
of the clinic. He sent out a mass email
to all the Physcians (I landed up with the email) Demanding a URGENT
meeting regarding injecting Thimerosal and Pregnant women. Im not sure
what the result was of that meeting. But he did thank me, as did MOST
of the OBGYN's that I had written.


Its a uphill battle...

Donna








On Oct 23, 6:52 pm, "Yuri Kuchinsky" <y...@trends.ca> wrote:
> "Kevysmom" <bluebun...@gmail,com > wrote in message
>
> news:1192909938.845089.99150@i38g2000prf.googlegroups,com ...
>
>
>
>
>
> >> Conflict of Interest doesn't exist in the world of "evidence-based
> >> medicine". Because it's the magical world at the end of a Yellow Brick
> >> Road -- where any sort of toxic sludge turns to gold!
>
> >> Best,
>
> >> Yuri.
>
> >> Yuri Kuchinsky -- http :// www .globalserve,net /~yuku
>
> > You have a wonderful gift with words!!! I really enjoyed reading
> > somethings on your web page!
>
> > Thank You Yuri!
>
> > On Oct 20, 2:59 pm, "Yuri Kuchinsky" <y...@trends.ca> wrote:
> >> "Kevysmom" <bluebun...@gmail,com > wrote in message
>
> >>news:1192900949.618048.242430@v29g2000prd.googlegroups,com ...
>
> >> >> Paul Offitt is way more well informed that you are mis-informed. He
> >> >> knows what he is talking about. You don't.
>
> >> > Isnt Paul OFF His rocker paid by Merck....One of the Pharmecutical
> >> > companies that
> >> > is being SUED for injecting Mercury into Infants!!! Can we say
> >> > "Conflict of Interest"!
>
> >> Conflict of Interest doesn't exist in the world of "evidence-based
> >> medicine". Because it's the magical world at the end of a Yellow Brick
> >> Road -- where any sort of toxic sludge turns to gold!
>
> >> Best,
>
> >> Yuri.
>
> >> Yuri Kuchinsky -- http :// www .globalserve,net /~yuku
>
> >> "Modern medicine" may well be defined as "the experimental study of what
> >> happens when poisonous chemicals are placed into malnourished human
> >> bodies." -- A. Saul, Contributing Editor, Journal of Orthomolecular
> >> Medicine -- http :// www .orthomed.org
>
> Thank you for your kind words, Kevysmom!
>
> Have you heard about the interview that Oprah did recently with Jenny
> McCarthy?
>
> http :// adventuresinautism.blogspot,com /2007/09/jenny-mccarthy-on-opra...
>
> "Yesterday [Sept 18, 2007], after 22 years, Oprah finally talked about
> vaccine injured children when she interviewed Hollywood Moms, Jenny McCarthy
> and Holly Peete. Jenny has written a book on her experience of watching her
> two and a half year old son regress into autism after an MMR shot. "
>
> So the info is finally getting out to the parents about the dangers of
> vaccines. They have been betrayed by our corrupt medical profession.
>
> All the best,
>
> Yuri.
>
> "The only safe vaccine is one that is never used." -- Dr. James R. Shannon,
> former director of the National Institute of Health (US).- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -



Reply from: Yuri Kuchinsky
Date: 24 Oct 2007, 20:24
Re: The 'Vaccines are safe' lie


"Kevysmom" <bluebunny8@gmail,com > wrote in message
news:1193198061.432472.286290@q5g2000prf.googlegroups,com ...
>> So the info is finally getting out to the parents about the dangers of
>> vaccines. They have been betrayed by our corrupt medical profession.
>
>
> Just like WE were all betrayed by our government into attacking Iraq.

That's for sure!

US corporate media shills for the Big Pharma just like they shill for the
Military Industrial Complex.

> One of the Pharma Scientist try to put the blame on Doctors for
> injecting
> the babies with mercury..He said "The Doctors should read what they
> are injecting
> into the babies"
>
> When I first found out about the mercury in Rhogam, I wrote to
> hundreds of OBGYN'S
> across the Nation to let them know what they were injecting into
> pregnant women, I also enclosed the
> Petition from bayer where they tried to get Thimerosal taken off the
> list as a reproductive toxin.
>
> The results of that petition was that Thimerosal is a Neurotoxin that
> has been PROVEN to cause
> Severe Mental Retardation to the fetus.
>
>
> One OBGYN Clinic that I had written to, I sent my letter to the Head
> of the clinic. He sent out a mass email
> to all the Physcians (I landed up with the email) Demanding a URGENT
> meeting regarding injecting Thimerosal and Pregnant women. Im not sure
> what the result was of that meeting. But he did thank me, as did MOST
> of the OBGYN's that I had written.
>
>
> Its a uphill battle...
>
> Donna

Keep up fighting the good fight, Donna!

Yuri.

Yuri Kuchinsky -- http :// www .globalserve,net /~yuku

"I have not seen autism with the Amish," said Dr. Frank Noonan, a family
practitioner in Lancaster County, Pa., who has treated thousands of Amish
for a quarter-century. "You'll find all the other stuff, but we don't find
the autism. We're right in the heart of Amish country and seeing none, and
that's just the way it is."



Reply from: Mark Probert
Date: 21 Oct 2007, 02:48
Re: The 'Vaccines are safe' lie

Kevysmom wrote:
>> Paul Offitt is way more well informed that you are mis-informed. He
>> knows what he is talking about. You don't.
>
>
> Isnt Paul OFF His rocker paid by Merck....One of the Pharmecutical
> companies that
> is being SUED for injecting Mercury into Infants!!!

Care to prove that? Even if he is, he fully discloses.

Can we say
> "Conflict of Interest"!

No, *we* cannot for several reasons. First, his opinions are totally
consistent with reality. Second, he fully discloses his affiliations.

BTW, the anti-vac liars hate his guts so much that they have assaulted
him. When considering any of the anti-vac liar claims about him, do
consider that they are violent.

BTW, read this:

http :// pediatrics.aappublications.org/cgi/content/full/109/1/124

Reply from: Kevysmom
Date: 21 Oct 2007, 03:01
Re: The 'Vaccines are safe' lie

> > Isnt Paul OFF His rocker paid by Merck....One of the Pharmecutical
> > companies that
> > is being SUED for injecting Mercury into Infants!!!
>
> Care to prove that? Even if he is, he fully discloses.



Dr. Offit has been a member of the Centers for Disease Control's (CDC)
Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices. He is also an author and
a consultant to pharmaceutical giant Merck, with whom he shares a
rotavirus vaccine patent (number 353547).


On Oct 20, 10:48 pm, Mark Probert <markprob...@lumbercartel,com >
wrote:
> Kevysmom wrote:
> >> Paul Offitt is way more well informed that you are mis-informed. He
> >> knows what he is talking about. You don't.
>
> > Isnt Paul OFF His rocker paid by Merck....One of the Pharmecutical
> > companies that
> > is being SUED for injecting Mercury into Infants!!!
>
> Care to prove that? Even if he is, he fully discloses.
>
> Can we say
>
> > "Conflict of Interest"!
>
> No, *we* cannot for several reasons. First, his opinions are totally
> consistent with reality. Second, he fully discloses his affiliations.
>
> BTW, the anti-vac liars hate his guts so much that they have assaulted
> him. When considering any of the anti-vac liar claims about him, do
> consider that they are violent.
>
> BTW, read this:
>
> http :// pediatrics.aappublications.org/cgi/content/full/109/1/124



Reply from: Mark Probert
Date: 21 Oct 2007, 04:09
Re: The 'Vaccines are safe' lie

Kevysmom wrote:
>>> Isnt Paul OFF His rocker paid by Merck....One of the Pharmecutical
>>> companies that
>>> is being SUED for injecting Mercury into Infants!!!
>> Care to prove that? Even if he is, he fully discloses.
>
> Dr. Offit has been a member of the Centers for Disease Control's (CDC)
> Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices. He is also an author and
> a consultant to pharmaceutical giant Merck, with whom he shares a
> rotavirus vaccine patent (number 353547).

You forgot to prove he is paid.

As for the patent, he helped develop it and is legally entitled to its
benefit. It is fully disclosed.

Andy Wakefield also had a patent on a MMR substitute. No anti-vac liar
mentions that.

I wonder why.

Wondering over.

Anti-vac liars a hypocrites.


> On Oct 20, 10:48 pm, Mark Probert <markprob...@lumbercartel,com >
> wrote:
>> Kevysmom wrote:
>>>> Paul Offitt is way more well informed that you are mis-informed. He
>>>> knows what he is talking about. You don't.
>>> Isnt Paul OFF His rocker paid by Merck....One of the Pharmecutical
>>> companies that
>>> is being SUED for injecting Mercury into Infants!!!
>> Care to prove that? Even if he is, he fully discloses.
>>
>> Can we say
>>
>>> "Conflict of Interest"!
>> No, *we* cannot for several reasons. First, his opinions are totally
>> consistent with reality. Second, he fully discloses his affiliations.
>>
>> BTW, the anti-vac liars hate his guts so much that they have assaulted
>> him. When considering any of the anti-vac liar claims about him, do
>> consider that they are violent.
>>
>> BTW, read this:
>>
>> http :// pediatrics.aappublications.org/cgi/content/full/109/1/124
>
>

Reply from: Kevysmom
Date: 21 Oct 2007, 15:59
Re: The 'Vaccines are safe' lie

> > Dr. Offit has been a member of the Centers for Disease Control's
(CDC)
> > Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices. He is also an author and
> > a consultant to pharmaceutical giant Merck, with whom he shares a
> > rotavirus vaccine patent (number 353547).



> You forgot to prove he is paid.


Paul Offit, chief of infectious diseases at the Children's Hospital of
Philadelphia, who was a committee member until last month. At the same
time, he shared a patent for another rotavirus vaccine. Merck has
funded Offit's research for 13 years.


Merck bought and delivers copies of Offit's book, "What Every Parent
Should Know About Vaccines," to American doctors. The book has a list
price of $14.95.

"I am a co-holder of a patent for a (rotavirus) vaccine. If this
vaccine were to become a routinely recommended vaccine, I would make
money off of that," Offit said.


Republican staff on the House Government Reform Committee looked into
the CDC panel that recommended the vaccination. Their August 2001
report found that "four out of eight CDC advisory committee members
who voted to approve guidelines for the rotavirus vaccine in June 1998
had financial ties to pharmaceutical companies that were developing
different versions of the vaccine."

And now the GOOD news!!

The CDC said that in October 2002 it adopted new guidelines for
participating on that advisory committee that in the future will
preclude people with conflicts like Offit's from sitting on the
committee.


Any more questions Mark?





On Oct 21, 12:09 am, Mark Probert <markprob...@lumbercartel,com >
wrote:
> Kevysmom wrote:
> >>> Isnt Paul OFF His rocker paid by Merck....One of the Pharmecutical
> >>> companies that
> >>> is being SUED for injecting Mercury into Infants!!!
> >> Care to prove that? Even if he is, he fully discloses.
>
> > Dr. Offit has been a member of the Centers for Disease Control's (CDC)
> > Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices. He is also an author and
> > a consultant to pharmaceutical giant Merck, with whom he shares a
> > rotavirus vaccine patent (number 353547).
>
> You forgot to prove he is paid.
>
> As for the patent, he helped develop it and is legally entitled to its
> benefit. It is fully disclosed.
>
> Andy Wakefield also had a patent on a MMR substitute. No anti-vac liar
> mentions that.
>
> I wonder why.
>
> Wondering over.
>
> Anti-vac liars a hypocrites.
>
>
>
> > On Oct 20, 10:48 pm, Mark Probert <markprob...@lumbercartel,com >
> > wrote:
> >> Kevysmom wrote:
> >>>> Paul Offitt is way more well informed that you are mis-informed. He
> >>>> knows what he is talking about. You don't.
> >>> Isnt Paul OFF His rocker paid by Merck....One of the Pharmecutical
> >>> companies that
> >>> is being SUED for injecting Mercury into Infants!!!
> >> Care to prove that? Even if he is, he fully discloses.
>
> >> Can we say
>
> >>> "Conflict of Interest"!
> >> No, *we* cannot for several reasons. First, his opinions are totally
> >> consistent with reality. Second, he fully discloses his affiliations.
>
> >> BTW, the anti-vac liars hate his guts so much that they have assaulted
> >> him. When considering any of the anti-vac liar claims about him, do
> >> consider that they are violent.
>
> >> BTW, read this:
>
> >> http :// pediatrics.aappublications.org/cgi/content/full/109/1/124- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -



Reply from: Mark Probert
Date: 22 Oct 2007, 02:22
Re: The 'Vaccines are safe' lie

Kevysmom wrote:
> > > Dr. Offit has been a member of the Centers for Disease Control's
> (CDC)
>>> Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices. He is also an author and
>>> a consultant to pharmaceutical giant Merck, with whom he shares a
>>> rotavirus vaccine patent (number 353547).
>
>
>
>> You forgot to prove he is paid.
>
>
> Paul Offit, chief of infectious diseases at the Children's Hospital of
> Philadelphia, who was a committee member until last month. At the same
> time, he shared a patent for another rotavirus vaccine. Merck has
> funded Offit's research for 13 years.
>
>
> Merck bought and delivers copies of Offit's book, "What Every Parent
> Should Know About Vaccines," to American doctors. The book has a list
> price of $14.95.
>
> "I am a co-holder of a patent for a (rotavirus) vaccine. If this
> vaccine were to become a routinely recommended vaccine, I would make
> money off of that," Offit said.
>
>
> Republican staff on the House Government Reform Committee looked into
> the CDC panel that recommended the vaccination. Their August 2001
> report found that "four out of eight CDC advisory committee members
> who voted to approve guidelines for the rotavirus vaccine in June 1998
> had financial ties to pharmaceutical companies that were developing
> different versions of the vaccine."
>
> And now the GOOD news!!
>
> The CDC said that in October 2002 it adopted new guidelines for
> participating on that advisory committee that in the future will
> preclude people with conflicts like Offit's from sitting on the
> committee.
>
>
> Any more questions Mark?

Yes, you forgot to prove he is paid. Paid means that he got cash in had,
quid pro quo for what he does.


>
>
>
>
> On Oct 21, 12:09 am, Mark Probert <markprob...@lumbercartel,com >
> wrote:
>> Kevysmom wrote:
>>>>> Isnt Paul OFF His rocker paid by Merck....One of the Pharmecutical
>>>>> companies that
>>>>> is being SUED for injecting Mercury into Infants!!!
>>>> Care to prove that? Even if he is, he fully discloses.
>>> Dr. Offit has been a member of the Centers for Disease Control's (CDC)
>>> Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices. He is also an author and
>>> a consultant to pharmaceutical giant Merck, with whom he shares a
>>> rotavirus vaccine patent (number 353547).
>> You forgot to prove he is paid.
>>
>> As for the patent, he helped develop it and is legally entitled to its
>> benefit. It is fully disclosed.
>>
>> Andy Wakefield also had a patent on a MMR substitute. No anti-vac liar
>> mentions that.
>>
>> I wonder why.
>>
>> Wondering over.
>>
>> Anti-vac liars a hypocrites.
>>
>>
>>
>>> On Oct 20, 10:48 pm, Mark Probert <markprob...@lumbercartel,com >
>>> wrote:
>>>> Kevysmom wrote:
>>>>>> Paul Offitt is way more well informed that you are mis-informed. He
>>>>>> knows what he is talking about. You don't.
>>>>> Isnt Paul OFF His rocker paid by Merck....One of the Pharmecutical
>>>>> companies that
>>>>> is being SUED for injecting Mercury into Infants!!!
>>>> Care to prove that? Even if he is, he fully discloses.
>>>> Can we say
>>>>> "Conflict of Interest"!
>>>> No, *we* cannot for several reasons. First, his opinions are totally
>>>> consistent with reality. Second, he fully discloses his affiliations.
>>>> BTW, the anti-vac liars hate his guts so much that they have assaulted
>>>> him. When considering any of the anti-vac liar claims about him, do
>>>> consider that they are violent.
>>>> BTW, read this:
>>>> http :// pediatrics.aappublications.org/cgi/content/full/109/1/124- Hide quoted text -
>> - Show quoted text -
>
>

Reply from: Kevysmom
Date: 22 Oct 2007, 05:24
Re: The 'Vaccines are safe' lie


> >> You forgot to prove he is paid.


Here read this word for word VERY S L O W L Y....Maybe you will
get the meaning of what it says!

Merck has
> > funded Offit's research for 13 years.


On Oct 21, 10:22 pm, Mark Probert <markprob...@lumbercartel,com >
wrote:
> Kevysmom wrote:
> > > > Dr. Offit has been a member of the Centers for Disease Control's
> > (CDC)
> >>> Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices. He is also an author and
> >>> a consultant to pharmaceutical giant Merck, with whom he shares a
> >>> rotavirus vaccine patent (number 353547).
>
> >> You forgot to prove he is paid.
>
> > Paul Offit, chief of infectious diseases at the Children's Hospital of
> > Philadelphia, who was a committee member until last month. At the same
> > time, he shared a patent for another rotavirus vaccine.c
>
> > Merck bought and delivers copies of Offit's book, "What Every Parent
> > Should Know About Vaccines," to American doctors. The book has a list
> > price of $14.95.
>
> > "I am a co-holder of a patent for a (rotavirus) vaccine. If this
> > vaccine were to become a routinely recommended vaccine, I would make
> > money off of that," Offit said.
>
> > Republican staff on the House Government Reform Committee looked into
> > the CDC panel that recommended the vaccination. Their August 2001
> > report found that "four out of eight CDC advisory committee members
> > who voted to approve guidelines for the rotavirus vaccine in June 1998
> > had financial ties to pharmaceutical companies that were developing
> > different versions of the vaccine."
>
> > And now the GOOD news!!
>
> > The CDC said that in October 2002 it adopted new guidelines for
> > participating on that advisory committee that in the future will
> > preclude people with conflicts like Offit's from sitting on the
> > committee.
>
> > Any more questions Mark?
>
> Yes, you forgot to prove he is paid. Paid means that he got cash in had,
> quid pro quo for what he does.
>
>
>
> > On Oct 21, 12:09 am, Mark Probert <markprob...@lumbercartel,com >
> > wrote:
> >> Kevysmom wrote:
> >>>>> Isnt Paul OFF His rocker paid by Merck....One of the Pharmecutical
> >>>>> companies that
> >>>>> is being SUED for injecting Mercury into Infants!!!
> >>>> Care to prove that? Even if he is, he fully discloses.
> >>> Dr. Offit has been a member of the Centers for Disease Control's (CDC)
> >>> Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices. He is also an author and
> >>> a consultant to pharmaceutical giant Merck, with whom he shares a
> >> >> You forgot to prove he is paid.> rotavirus vaccine patent (number 353547).
> >> You forgot to prove he is paid.
>
> >> As for the patent, he helped develop it and is legally entitled to its
> >> benefit. It is fully disclosed.
>
> >> Andy Wakefield also had a patent on a MMR substitute. No anti-vac liar
> >> mentions that.
>
> >> I wonder why.
>
> >> Wondering over.
>
> >> Anti-vac liars a hypocrites.
>
> >>> On Oct 20, 10:48 pm, Mark Probert <markprob...@lumbercartel,com >
> >>> wrote:
> >>>> Kevysmom wrote:
> >>>>>> Paul Offitt is way more well informed that you are mis-informed. He
> >>>>>> knows what he is talking about. You don't.
> >>>>> Isnt Paul OFF His rocker paid by Merck....One of the Pharmecutical
> >>>>> companies that
> >>>>> is being SUED for injecting Mercury into Infants!!!
> >>>> Care to prove that? Even if he is, he fully discloses.
> >>>> Can we say
> >>>>> "Conflict of Interest"!
> >>>> No, *we* cannot for several reasons. First, his opinions are totally
> >>>> consistent with reality. Second, he fully discloses his affiliations.
> >>>> BTW, the anti-vac liars hate his guts so much that they have assaulted
> >>>> him. When considering any of the anti-vac liar claims about him, do
> >>>> consider that they are violent.
> >>>> BTW, read this:
> >>>> http :// pediatrics.aappublications.org/cgi/content/full/109/1/124-Hide quoted text -
> >> - Show quoted text -




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