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Reply from: ironjustice@aol . com
Date: 15 Sep 2007, 19:13
Sucking Out Pain

According to him, cupping can cure fatigue, laziness, ankle pains,
back pains and other problems.

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Sucking Out Blood Is Big Business
Ali Al-Zahrani & Raid Qusti, Arab News



African men, purportedly experts in Hijama, wait for customers in
front of barbershops that line a street in Riyadh's Al-Shumaisi
district. (AN photo by Iqbal Hossain)

RIYADH, 15 May 2007 - Over 20 barbershops, all licensed and next door
to one another in the capital's Al-Shumaisi district, would be a
familiar scene in many of the Kingdom's streets - that is, if
customers were going in and out for a haircut or a shave. An
investigation by Arab News, however, has revealed that these shops are
fronts for what is known in Arabic as "Hijama."

Hijama is the Arabic word for cupping or "sucking blood." It is
carried out by using a small vacuum over a small incision in the skin
and was widely practiced in the past by Arabs and Muslims. It is
mentioned in several Hadiths, which praise it as a good remedy.

Hijama is normally performed on the head, but can be performed
anywhere on the body, often at the site of an ache or pain. The
purpose is to ease or alleviate pain. The location is first shaved, if
necessary, to ensure a tight seal with the cup.

The mouth of the cup (metal, glass and plastic cups are generally
used) is placed on the skin at the site chosen for cupping. Then a
tight seal is created, generally by burning a small piece of paper or
cotton inside the vessel so that the mouth of the cup clings to the
skin.

The cup is left to cling to the skin for a few minutes, then it is
lifted off and a couple of small incisions are made in the skin. The
cup is then put back as it was before and remains until it is filled
with blood.

Customers who look for cupping in the capital - which is banned by the
Health Ministry - come to these shops and negotiate with the African
men sitting outside for a good price. The men even have special
business cards where they print the nature of their business - ("Abdul
Raoof: Barber, Hijama and Circumcision Specialist" Mobile No:
05.........).

Without proper hygienic equipment and inappropriate training the men
are possibly spreading contagious blood diseases. They sit in front of
the barbershops and wait until someone comes along and asks about
cupping.

"We've been here for decades," one of the men said. "Come inside and
see our catalogue. Don't worry; all our equipment is new and clean. We
suck out the bad blood anywhere in your body and you feel better
afterward," he explained.

He admitted, however, that cupping is not done in the shops for fear
of the police. "We cut their hair a little here and the Hijama is done
in our houses in the back," he said.

He said that in the houses in the alleys behind the shops, there were
women who could do the cupping for a female customer if she were
interested.

Another African man sitting near the shop said he knew that the
authorities had banned the practice but the demand remained. "We
charge SR25 for each cup," he replied when asked about prices. "You do
not need to take a day's rest. After the bad blood is drawn out, you
can carry on normally as before," he went on.

The man said that he was experienced and learned the technique from
his father. He said he could easily determine the symptoms of bad
blood in a person's body, giving examples of laziness and fatigue.

The man even recommended that a cupping therapy be done every couple
of months to ensure better health. According to him, cupping can cure
fatigue, laziness, ankle pains, back pains and other problems.

Last year, Riyadh Municipality shut down 15 barbershops in the capital
for practicing Hijama using unhygienic equipment. "The municipality
does not provide licenses to Hijama shops unless they meet all
hygienic conditions, including using new cups and razors for each
patient," a municipality official was reported as saying in a
newspaper.

On Feb. 1, the Health Ministry vowed to crack down on Hijama shops in
the Kingdom and threatened to close all institutions that practice it.
Minister of Health Hamad Al-Manie announced to the press that any
medical institution listing Hijama as one of its practices would be
shut down completely and banned from future operations.

He denied that his ministry had allowed the practice in the Kingdom
and even issued licenses to medical institutions. He also noted that
his ministry had banned doctors from working in the Kingdom when he
learned that they were practicing the therapy. "I have refused to
accept the research paper from the Council of Medical Services on
Hijama which referred to it as a religious therapy," he said. "I told
them that if they had information based on scientific evidence, then
they are welcome. But if you are merely relying on religious aspects,
no. During the time of the Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) there
was no equipment to draw out blood."

The minister stressed to the professionals attending an international
symposium on blood transfusion to do more research on Hijama and prove
its benefits scientifically so that people would not continue to
practice it based solely on religious reasons.

Last month, a spokesperson for the Health Ministry made a public
announcement that the Health Services Council had decided not to allow
the practice of Hijama in Saudi Arabia because evidence given to prove
its effectiveness was non-scientific. It added that the council would
rely only on modern scientific evidence.


Who loves ya.
Tom


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Reply from: greyhackles
Date: 15 Sep 2007, 19:49
Re: Sucking Out Pain

On Sat, 15 Sep 2007 10:13:20 -0700, "ironjustice@aol . com "
<ironjustice@aol . com > wrote:

>According to him, cupping can cure fatigue, laziness, ankle pains,
>back pains and other problems.

Now we know what was at the very bottom of that well you've been digging...

Reply from: never@million
Date: 15 Sep 2007, 20:02
Re: Sucking Out Pain

On Sat, 15 Sep 2007 13:49:20 -0400, greyhackles
<greyhackles@NOSPAMyahoo . com > wrote:

>On Sat, 15 Sep 2007 10:13:20 -0700, "ironjustice@aol . com "
><ironjustice@aol . com > wrote:
>
>>According to him, cupping can cure fatigue, laziness, ankle pains,
>>back pains and other problems.
>
>Now we know what was at the very bottom of that well you've been digging...

But can it cure tax problems, marriage problems, problem children?

Donn

Reply from: Shelley
Date: 15 Sep 2007, 20:29
Re: Sucking Out Pain

Athletes foot? Constipation? Halitosis?

<never@million> wrote in message
news:je7oe3pmdalkhv36p8hh20ib9kllnv786l@4ax . com ...
> On Sat, 15 Sep 2007 13:49:20 -0400, greyhackles
> <greyhackles@NOSPAMyahoo . com > wrote:
>
>>On Sat, 15 Sep 2007 10:13:20 -0700, "ironjustice@aol . com "
>><ironjustice@aol . com > wrote:
>>
>>>According to him, cupping can cure fatigue, laziness, ankle pains,
>>>back pains and other problems.
>>
>>Now we know what was at the very bottom of that well you've been
>>digging...
>
> But can it cure tax problems, marriage problems, problem children?
>
> Donn



Reply from: ironjustice
Date: 15 Sep 2007, 20:53
Re: Sucking Out Pain

>> On Sep 15, 11:29 am, "Shelley" <no...@nohow . com > wrote:
Athletes foot? Constipation? Halitosis? <<

Athlete's foot is the .. host .. and their iron .. levels .. pathogens
REQUIRE iron and unless the iron levels in the body are low one is
**prone** to infection.

As evidenced by "scrum disease" found in footballers and wrestlers ..

>> On Sep 15, 11:29 am, "Shelley" <no...@nohow . com > wrote:
Constipation?<<

Iron causes constipation ..

Everyone knows that ..

>> On Sep 15, 11:29 am, "Shelley" <no...@nohow . com > wrote:
Halitosis<<

Halitosis is linked to acidity of the body and heavy metal toxicity
causes acidosis.

Boil some potato .. drink the potato juice for your bad breath ..

It alkalizes the body ..

Who loves ya.
Tom


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DEAD PEOPLE WALKING
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Reply from: timmythesaint
Date: 15 Sep 2007, 20:58
Re: Sucking Out Pain

you...are...an...idiot.
Your..."research"...is...nothing...but...stolen...snippets.. . fr om...very...=
=AD=AD=AD=AD=AD=AD=AD=AD=AD=AD=AD=AD
dubious
(that means suspect)...sources. Please help everyone out and go shoot
yourself.

Tim




Reply from: spodosaurus
Date: 16 Sep 2007, 07:10
Re: Sucking Out Pain

Tommah, when are you coming to visit? You said you would!


Reply from: jofirey
Date: 16 Sep 2007, 01:30
Re: Sucking Out Pain


"greyhackles" <greyhackles@NOSPAMyahoo . com > wrote in message
news:dl6oe3hhm0ebsm6jelj3ejluann88dovta@4ax . com ...
> On Sat, 15 Sep 2007 10:13:20 -0700, "ironjustice@aol . com "
> <ironjustice@aol . com > wrote:
>
>>According to him, cupping can cure fatigue, laziness, ankle pains,
>>back pains and other problems.
>
> Now we know what was at the very bottom of that well you've been
> digging...

Pretty please, y'all. I know its hard to resist toying with Ironbutt. But
if you must, try only to reply in the group you normally post to.

And put your toys away when you are finished.



Reply from: Harvey R. Stone
Date: 16 Sep 2007, 13:46
Re: Sucking Out Pain




>
> Pretty please, y'all. I know its hard to resist toying with Ironbutt.
> But if you must, try only to reply in the group you normally post to.
>
> And put your toys away when you are finished.
>

Well said.

Harv



Reply from: Spike
Date: 16 Sep 2007, 15:38
Re: Sucking Out Pain

I hope my ex husband tries cupping,

I think he has a problem with his jugular, do they do that?

Spike


Reply from: never@million
Date: 16 Sep 2007, 19:35
Re: Sucking Out Pain

On Sun, 16 Sep 2007 13:38:12 -0000, Spike <pamelacouper@gmail . com >
wrote:

>I hope my ex husband tries cupping,
>
>I think he has a problem with his jugular, do they do that?
>
>Spike


In countries in the southeast Asian areas, "coining" is the method
used to stimulate circulation and rid the "patient" of whatever ailed
them. Heated coins were placed on the area of concern.

Some many years ago, case workers at a home for abused neglected
children became concerned about children from Viet Nam with "burn
marks" on the backs being brought in by police and child care workers.
Seems that the children in question had circular bruises on their
back. It was later found that the parents used coining to cure
whatever.

When I was a kid, my grandfather, a physician-surgeon, used an
infrared ray lamp to help heal my bruises, aches and pains, etc. Ahem,
we here in the western world were more modern and used the coins to
purchase things.

Donn

ps: the infrared ray lamp seemed to the trick for me.


Reply from: Thip
Date: 16 Sep 2007, 02:09
Re: Sucking Out Pain


"greyhackles" <greyhackles@NOSPAMyahoo . com > wrote in message
news:dl6oe3hhm0ebsm6jelj3ejluann88dovta@4ax . com ...
> On Sat, 15 Sep 2007 10:13:20 -0700, "ironjustice@aol . com "
> <ironjustice@aol . com > wrote:
>
>>According to him, cupping can cure fatigue, laziness, ankle pains,
>>back pains and other problems.
>
> Now we know what was at the very bottom of that well you've been
> digging...

And it doesn't cure dirty windows or clean toilets. No use to me
whatsoever.



Reply from: Bud
Date: 24 Sep 2007, 17:59
Re: Sucking Out Pain

As he promised/threatened, is he gone yet? ;-)

Reply from: Bud
Date: 25 Sep 2007, 17:55
Re: Sucking Out Pain

Bud wrote:
> As he promised/threatened, is he gone yet? ;-)

No, I guess not.

Reply from: california_chief
Date: 16 Sep 2007, 00:38
Re: Sucking Out Pain

numbnuts, aka ironjustice@aol . com wrote:


> According to him, cupping can cure fatigue, laziness, ankle pains,
> back pains and other problems.

Why don't blood donations do the same?



> The mouth of the cup (metal, glass and plastic cups are generally
> used)

Duh, what other kind are there?



... DO NOT ADJUST YOUR MIND - The problem is with numbnut's non-reality.







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