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my experiences with st. john's wort

Reply from: realwort
Date: 12 Mar 2008, 05:09
my experiences with st. john's wort

I didn't see this before I started my own group called
"herbalremedies" without the underscore. I posted one experience
where I cured a dog of parvo with st. john's. I also had hepatitis C
and actually cured it (I have a PCR negative test ... the genetic
test) which proved I got rid of it. It took 5 years (as far as I know
because I only had one test done due to the expense, so it may of took
only 3 years, Dunno..?!

Any how please see what I posted.

I also have a story of how I saved my nephews life who had aids with
it!

thanks and take care

Reply from: Waterspider
Date: 13 Mar 2008, 02:41
Re: my experiences with st. john's wort


"realwort" <realwort@gmail . com > wrote in message
news:39f902b5-0f52-48cd-ae79-7dd6f07d434e@n77g2000hse.googlegroups . com ...
>I didn't see this before I started my own group called
> "herbalremedies" without the underscore. I posted one experience
> where I cured a dog of parvo with st. john's. I also had hepatitis C
> and actually cured it (I have a PCR negative test ... the genetic
> test) which proved I got rid of it. It took 5 years (as far as I know
> because I only had one test done due to the expense, so it may of took
> only 3 years, Dunno..?!
>
> Any how please see what I posted.
>
> I also have a story of how I saved my nephews life who had aids with
> it!
>
> thanks and take care

Interesting. I didn't know that St. John's Wort was a hallucinogenic...



Reply from: -- messaggio eliminato --
Date: 09 Apr 2008, 04:12
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Reply from: Waterspider
Date: 11 Apr 2008, 23:56
Re: my experiences with st. john's wort


"realwort" <realwort@gmail . com > wrote ...
> On Mar 12, 6:41 pm, "Waterspider" <nos...@all . com > wrote:
>> "realwort" <realw...@gmail . com > wrote
>>
>> >I didn't see this before I started my own group called
>> > "herbalremedies" without the underscore. I posted one experience
>> > where I cured a dog of parvo with st. john's. I also had hepatitis C
>> > and actually cured it (I have a PCR negative test ... the genetic
>> > test) which proved I got rid of it. It took 5 years (as far as I know
>> > because I only had one test done due to the expense, so it may of took
>> > only 3 years, Dunno..?!
>> > I also have a story of how I saved my nephews life who had aids with
>> > it!
>>
>> Interesting. I didn't know that St. John's Wort was a hallucinogenic...
>
> Dear unbeliever.... Buddha said ignorance is the cause of suffering
> and he was right. It's the naysayers like you who missed the boat.
> I did the research and I can prove it as I said... You have no idea
> what you are talking about and I DO... I 've had to listen to idiots
> like you all my life and when the AMA was after me I had to refer them
> to a doctor Brown in Beverly Hills who has using it and other even
> more powerful herbs successfully. You really should go somewhere else
> to voice you ignorance because it doesn't hold water. And yes I DID
> yeal a dog with Parvo and a kitten with feline leukemia although it
> was too late to save her mother by the time I found out and could be
> there to help. Disbelief is your enemy. You should use one tenth of
> your negative attitudes and try to find out instead of acting like a
> juvenile of course unless you either don't want to or haven't had
> enough years yet to k;now better in which case you are forgiven, this
> time but don't do it again. This is my site and I will ruthlessly
> defend my statement because you have no idea what it cost me and I
> have stood up to ALL comers and they have all lost. Grow up please.
> You can go to pubmed.org to do free medical research. I have done it
> ALL on st. john's wort. It has 10 antiviral compounds and also is
> anti bacterial. I make a concentrate which absorbs directly into the
> mucous membranes and bypasses the stomach which causes it to be
> clorinated and furthermore inactivates the main active ingredient,
> Hypericin which is named after the genus Hypericum. A study in
> Germany in the 80's used nothing but hypericin on 17 AIDS patients
> over a five year perios. 14 of them survived for 5 years at the time
> when they were dropping off like flies. They ONLY used Hypericin. I
> have the reference for that which I will post as well when I get the
> time. Which will probably take several weeks. I do not have access
> to a computer very often these days and I apologize for that in the
> mean time. I 've studied and applied my knowlege since the mid 90's.
> I DO have a PCR negative proof that I am non detectible when I did
> have antibody tests proving I had hep A, B and C at one time. I was
> sicker than a dog. It only took a month or so of my regime which
> included schizandra and coffee with st. john's wort to feel better. I
> was sleeping 14 hours a day and got it down to around 10 and less
> after 2 months of doing this. ....

What a coincidence! Two-three months is exactly the amount of time that an
acute infection lasts. And how fascinating that your self-treatment not only
erradicated hepatitis A, B and C, but removed the antibodies as well. You're
sure to win the Nobel Prize next year.



Reply from: realwort
Date: 24 Apr 2008, 04:52
Re: my experiences with st. john's wort

On Apr 11, 4:56 pm, "Waterspider" <nos...@all . com > wrote:
> "realwort" <realw...@gmail . com > wrote ...
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Mar 12, 6:41 pm, "Waterspider" <nos...@all . com > wrote:
> >> "realwort" <realw...@gmail . com > wrote
>
> >> >I didn't see this before I started my own group called
> >> > "herbalremedies" without the underscore.  I posted one experience
> >> > where I cured a dog of parvo with st. john's.  I also had hepatitis=
C
> >> > and actually cured it (I have a PCR negative test ... the genetic
> >> > test) which proved I got rid of it.  It took 5 years (as far as I k=
now
> >> > because I only had one test done due to the expense, so it may of too=
k
> >> > only 3 years, Dunno..?!
> >> > I also have a story of how I saved my nephews life who had aids with
> >> > it!
>
> >> Interesting. I didn't know that St. John's Wort was a hallucinogenic...=

>
> > Dear unbeliever....   Buddha said ignorance is the cause of suffering
> > and he was right.  It's the naysayers like you who missed the boat.
> > I did the research and I can prove it as I said...  You have no idea
> > what you are talking about and I DO...  I 've had to listen to idiots
> > like you all my life and when the AMA was after me I had to refer them
> > to a doctor Brown in Beverly Hills who has using it and other even
> > more powerful herbs successfully.  You really should go somewhere else=

> > to voice you ignorance because it doesn't hold water.  And yes I DID
> > yeal a dog with Parvo and a kitten with feline leukemia although it
> > was too late to save her mother by the time I found out and could be
> > there to help.  Disbelief is your enemy.  You should use one tenth o=
f
> > your negative attitudes and try to find out instead of acting like a
> > juvenile of course unless you either don't want to or haven't had
> > enough years yet to k;now better in which case you are forgiven, this
> > time but don't do it again.  This is my site and I will ruthlessly
> > defend my statement because you have no idea what it cost me and I
> > have stood up to ALL comers and they have all lost.  Grow up please.
> > You can go to pubmed.org to do free medical research.  I have done it
> > ALL on st. john's wort.  It has 10 antiviral compounds and also is
> > anti bacterial.  I make a concentrate which absorbs directly into the
> > mucous membranes and bypasses the stomach which causes it to be
> > clorinated and furthermore inactivates the main active ingredient,
> > Hypericin which is named after the genus Hypericum.  A study in
> > Germany in the 80's used nothing but hypericin on 17 AIDS patients
> > over a five year perios.  14 of them survived for 5 years at the time
> > when they were dropping off like flies.  They ONLY used Hypericin.  =
I
> > have the reference for that which I will post as well when I get the
> > time.  Which will probably take several weeks.  I do not have access=

> > to a computer very often these days and I apologize for that in the
> > mean time.  I 've studied and applied my knowlege since the mid 90's.
> > I DO have a PCR negative proof that I am non detectible when I did
> > have antibody tests proving I had hep A, B and C at one time. I was
> > sicker than a dog.  It only took a month or so of my regime which
> > included schizandra and coffee with st. john's wort to feel better.  I=

> > was sleeping 14 hours a day and got it down to around 10 and less
> > after 2 months of doing this.  ....
>
> What a coincidence! Two-three months is exactly the amount of time that an=

> acute infection lasts. And how fascinating that your self-treatment not on=
ly
> erradicated hepatitis A, B and C, but removed the antibodies as well. You'=
re
> sure to win the Nobel Prize next year.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Hello,

I never said that the antibodies were missing. In fact a doctor who
gave me the antibody test
said I still had the disease when I had no symptoms because the body
retains the antibodies. I asked
him for another PCR test which he said he did but lied and tried to
get me poisoned by the interferon
poisons. I know and have seen what they've done. If I were able to
sue that idiot doctor I would have but
my mom was dying and I had other things taking my time up. That was
around 2001. I am still symptom
free in 2008. The antibodies stay with you and good thing in case you
are expsed again. The PCR test is
expensive and my insurance only pays for it if I have symptoms due to
that, which I don't. My doctor (MD)
is impressed and though I have other problems, Hepatitis is NOT one of
them, thank you very much... ; ) take care Peace !

Reply from: realwort
Date: 24 Apr 2008, 04:53
Re: my experiences with st. john's wort

On Apr 23, 9:52 pm, realwort <realw...@gmail . com > wrote:
> On Apr 11, 4:56 pm, "Waterspider" <nos...@all . com > wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > "realwort" <realw...@gmail . com > wrote ...
>
> > > On Mar 12, 6:41 pm, "Waterspider" <nos...@all . com > wrote:
> > >> "realwort" <realw...@gmail . com > wrote
>
> > >> >I didn't see this before I started my own group called
> > >> > "herbalremedies" without the underscore.  I posted one experience=

> > >> > where I cured a dog of parvo with st. john's.  I also had hepatit=
is C
> > >> > and actually cured it (I have a PCR negative test ... the genetic
> > >> > test) which proved I got rid of it.  It took 5 years (as far as I=
know
> > >> > because I only had one test done due to the expense, so it may of t=
ook
> > >> > only 3 years, Dunno..?!
> > >> > I also have a story of how I saved my nephews life who had aids wit=
h
> > >> > it!
>
> > >> Interesting. I didn't know that St. John's Wort was a hallucinogenic.=
..
>
> > > Dear unbeliever....   Buddha said ignorance is the cause of sufferin=
g
> > > and he was right.  It's the naysayers like you who missed the boat.
> > > I did the research and I can prove it as I said...  You have no idea=

> > > what you are talking about and I DO...  I 've had to listen to idiot=
s
> > > like you all my life and when the AMA was after me I had to refer them=

> > > to a doctor Brown in Beverly Hills who has using it and other even
> > > more powerful herbs successfully.  You really should go somewhere el=
se
> > > to voice you ignorance because it doesn't hold water.  And yes I DID=

> > > yeal a dog with Parvo and a kitten with feline leukemia although it
> > > was too late to save her mother by the time I found out and could be
> > > there to help.  Disbelief is your enemy.  You should use one tenth=
of
> > > your negative attitudes and try to find out instead of acting like a
> > > juvenile of course unless you either don't want to or haven't had
> > > enough years yet to k;now better in which case you are forgiven, this
> > > time but don't do it again.  This is my site and I will ruthlessly
> > > defend my statement because you have no idea what it cost me and I
> > > have stood up to ALL comers and they have all lost.  Grow up please.=

> > > You can go to pubmed.org to do free medical research.  I have done i=
t
> > > ALL on st. john's wort.  It has 10 antiviral compounds and also is
> > > anti bacterial.  I make a concentrate which absorbs directly into th=
e
> > > mucous membranes and bypasses the stomach which causes it to be
> > > clorinated and furthermore inactivates the main active ingredient,
> > > Hypericin which is named after the genus Hypericum.  A study in
> > > Germany in the 80's used nothing but hypericin on 17 AIDS patients
> > > over a five year perios.  14 of them survived for 5 years at the tim=
e
> > > when they were dropping off like flies.  They ONLY used Hypericin. =
 I
> > > have the reference for that which I will post as well when I get the
> > > time.  Which will probably take several weeks.  I do not have acce=
ss
> > > to a computer very often these days and I apologize for that in the
> > > mean time.  I 've studied and applied my knowlege since the mid 90's=
.
> > > I DO have a PCR negative proof that I am non detectible when I did
> > > have antibody tests proving I had hep A, B and C at one time. I was
> > > sicker than a dog.  It only took a month or so of my regime which
> > > included schizandra and coffee with st. john's wort to feel better. =
 I
> > > was sleeping 14 hours a day and got it down to around 10 and less
> > > after 2 months of doing this.  ....
>
> > What a coincidence! Two-three months is exactly the amount of time that =
an
> > acute infection lasts. And how fascinating that your self-treatment not =
only
> > erradicated hepatitis A, B and C, but removed the antibodies as well. Yo=
u're
> > sure to win the Nobel Prize next year.- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> Hello,
>
> I never said that the antibodies were missing.  In fact a doctor who
> gave me the antibody test
> said I still had the disease when I had no symptoms because the body
> retains the antibodies.  I asked
> him for another PCR test which he said he did but lied and tried to
> get me poisoned by the interferon
> poisons.  I know and have seen what they've done.  If I were able to
> sue that idiot doctor I would have but
> my mom was dying and I had other things taking my time up.  That was
> around 2001.  I am still symptom
> free in 2008.  The antibodies stay with you and good thing in case you
> are expsed again.  The PCR test is
> expensive and my insurance only pays for it if I have symptoms due to
> that, which I don't.  My doctor (MD)
> is impressed and though I have other problems, Hepatitis is NOT one of
> them, thank you very much...  ; )  take care   Peace !- Hide quoted =
text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Hey youngin's put brain in gear before opening mouth please. Go to
pubmed.org and do your homework before you badmouth something and
someone you don't know or understand. St. john's wort is also known
as hypericum (genus) perforatum. It also works externally for MERCA,
the antibiotic resistant staphyloccus bacteria. I have PROOF of that
also from my own experiences and that of a friend who is a tree
trimmer and he swears by it. I make an herbal concentrate that is
like no other. I don't sell it because I don't make enough to do
that. I am just sharing information the world needs to know. Whoever
is getting into my group and deleting my messages has something
coming. I will report you to the management! I have the PCR negative
test restults to PROOVE I am hep C negative. Do you? My email is
Realwort@yahoo . com now so if you want to Boo me do it there so I can
reply in kind. Buddha said the cause of all suffering is ignorance.
Learn and grow up so you won't be a victim of your own ignorance. You
have much to learn grasshoppers! Om...

Realwort@yahoo . com

Reply from: greyhackles
Date: 24 Apr 2008, 07:13
Re: my experiences with st. john's wort

On Wed, 23 Apr 2008 19:52:24 -0700 (PDT), realwort <realwort@gmail . com > wrote:
>
>Hello,
>
>I never said that the antibodies were missing. In fact a doctor who
>gave me the antibody test said I still had the disease when I had no
>symptoms because the body retains the antibodies. I asked
>him for another PCR test which he said he did but lied and tried to
>get me poisoned by the interferon poisons. I know and have seen
>what they've done. If I were able to sue that idiot doctor I would have but
>my mom was dying and I had other things taking my time up. That was
>around 2001. I am still symptom free in 2008. The antibodies stay with you
>and good thing in case you are expsed again. The PCR test is
>expensive and my insurance only pays for it if I have symptoms due to
>that, which I don't. My doctor (MD) is impressed and though I have other
>problems, Hepatitis is NOT one of them, thank you very much... ; )

So.....You actually *don't* have a post-infection, post-wort "treatment" PCR
that shows you cleared the virus?

btw, because you obviously don't have a clue about it: continued expression of
HCV antibodies does *not* protect you from re infection. So, regardless of any
misguided faith in voodoo medicine, be careful out there...

/greyhackles

Reply from: *GED*
Date: 24 Apr 2008, 14:25
Re: my experiences with st. john's wort



Could Somebody "Please Un-Elaborate"? Is St Johns Wort worthwhile or
isn't it??.Surely this "IS" a fairly straightforward question?.Could
some
kind Soul out there please inform me/us of it's worth or it's dirth?.

Reply from: greyhackles
Date: 24 Apr 2008, 17:15
Re: my experiences with st. john's wort

On Thu, 24 Apr 2008 05:25:57 -0700 (PDT), "*GED*" <flanneryged@yahoo.co.uk>
wrote:
>
>Could Somebody "Please Un-Elaborate"? Is St Johns Wort worthwhile or
>isn't it??.Surely this "IS" a fairly straightforward question?.Could
>some kind Soul out there please inform me/us of it's worth or it's dirth?.

* w w w .pubmedcentral.nih.gov/articlerender.fcgi?artid=90321

Abstract:
Hypericin is a natural derivative of the common St. Johns wort plant,
Hypericum perforatum. It has in vitro activity against several viruses,
including bovine diarrhea virus, a pestivirus with structural similarities to
hepatitis C virus (HCV).

We conducted a phase I dose escalation study to determine the safety and
antiviral activity of hypericin in patients with chronic HCV infection. The
first 12 patients received an 8-week course of 0.05 mg of hypericin per kg of
body weight orally once a day; 7 patients received an 8-week course of 0.10
mg/kg orally once a day.

At the end of the 8-week period of treatment, no subject had a change of
plasma HCV RNA level of more than 1.0 log10. Five of 12 subjects receiving the
0.05-mg/kg/day dosing schedule and 6 of 7 subjects receiving the
0.10-mg/kg/day dosing schedule developed phototoxic reactions. No other
serious adverse events associated with hypericin use occurred. The
pharmacokinetic data revealed a long elimination half-life (mean values of
36.1 and 33.8 h, respectively, for the doses of 0.05 and 0.1 mg/kg) and mean
area under the curve determinations of 1.5 and 3.1 µg/ml × hr, respectively.

In sum, hypericin given orally in doses of 0.05 and 0.10 mg/kg/d caused
considerable phototoxicity and had no detectable anti-HCV activity in patients
with chronic HCV infection.

Discussion:
In the doses studied hypericin demonstrated no detectable anti-HCV activity.
No subjects treated with an 8-week course of hypericin (either 0.05 or 0.10
mg/kg/day) had a change in plasma level of HCV RNA of more than 1.0 log10,
>>>the natural variability of the laboratory assay<<<. Twelve subjects
receiving the 0.05-mg/kg/day dose and seven receiving the 0.10-mg/kg/day dose
were studied. These results provide significant evidence that hypericin in
these doses is not effective in lowering plasma HCV levels in HCV-infected
patients. In addition, hypericin had no effect on improving elevated serum
liver enzyme levels in the patients studied.
...

And:
In sum, hypericin given orally in tolerable doses had no detectable anti-HCV
activity in patients with chronic HCV infection. It has considerable
phototoxicity when administered in doses of 0.05 mg/kg/day or more.
...

/greyhackles

Reply from: *GED*
Date: 25 Apr 2008, 16:21
Re: my experiences with st. john's wort


Greyshackles,thank you for giving me as straight an answer as I could
have wished for.Like you I am sick and tired of what you termed
"Vodoo"
medicine,personally I am prepared to give just about anything (within
reason) a chance.I have been slowed down by this awful virus for the
last
twenty five years (I was unaware of it's existance within me for the
first 13 years).However I started getting old real fast and I knew
something was
amiss.I have done the Peg Interferon without it clearing as I am Geno
type one.I just try to give myself a chance by using things which will
perhaps trip and slow the march of the Virus down a little.I am not a
believer in miracle cures,one day perhaps a sort of sweeper and
blocker might be available to people like me,until that day I will
swing along with the Milk Thistle,Omega 3,St Johns Wort,and a full
Vitamin supplement
which does not include Iron.Thank you again for explaining what I can
expect from the St Johns Wort,Cheers *GED*

Reply from: realwort
Date: 01 Jun 2008, 04:21
Re: my experiences with st. john's wort

On Apr 23, 10:13 pm, greyhackles <greyhack...@REMOVEyahoo . com > wrote:
> On Wed, 23 Apr 2008 19:52:24 -0700 (PDT), realwort <realw...@gmail . com > wrote:
>
> >Hello,
>
> >I never said that the antibodies were missing. In fact a doctor who
> >gave me the antibody test said I still had the disease when I had no
> >symptoms because the body retains the antibodies. I asked
> >him for another PCR test which he said he did but lied and tried to
> >get me poisoned by the interferon poisons. I know and have seen
> >what they've done. If I were able to sue that idiot doctor I would have but
> >my mom was dying and I had other things taking my time up. That was
> >around 2001. I am still symptom free in 2008. The antibodies stay with you
> >and good thing in case you are expsed again. The PCR test is
> >expensive and my insurance only pays for it if I have symptoms due to
> >that, which I don't. My doctor (MD) is impressed and though I have other
> >problems, Hepatitis is NOT one of them, thank you very much... ; )
>
> So.....You actually *don't* have a post-infection, post-wort "treatment" PCR
> that shows you cleared the virus?
>
> btw, because you obviously don't have a clue about it: continued expression of
> HCV antibodies does *not* protect you from re infection. So, regardless of any
> misguided faith in voodoo medicine, be careful out there...
>
> /greyhackles

Don't need it... I got one and am symptom free for over 7 years. Do
the research. Hypericin doesn't work if it is chlorinated by taking
it by the stomach at least to some degree that's why I made the
concentrate to be absorbed into the mucous lining directly. I never
made any money from this. I do it because my nephew said it was the
most important thing to do. I just reported my findings to a research
company and CalTech. They are too busy at the moment but maybe
clinical trials will happen some day, God willing. People are
exposed all the time to these things and it is a testament that I've
been in very pathogenic environments and the Wort has pulled me
through every time except once in which chammomile tea did. There are
9 kinds of chammomile in south america ya know. pubmed.org is a good
place to start the research. Take care.... RW

Reply from: -- messaggio eliminato --
Date: 09 Apr 2008, 04:13
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Reply from: Jamffer
Date: 16 Mar 2008, 16:11
Re: my experiences with st. john's wort


"realwort" <realwort@gmail . com > wrote in message
news:39f902b5-0f52-48cd-ae79-7dd6f07d434e@n77g2000hse.googlegroups . com ...
> I didn't see this before I started my own group called
> "herbalremedies" without the underscore. I posted one experience
> where I cured a dog of parvo with st. john's. I also had hepatitis C
> and actually cured it (I have a PCR negative test ... the genetic
> test) which proved I got rid of it. It took 5 years (as far as I know
> because I only had one test done due to the expense, so it may of took
> only 3 years, Dunno..?!
>
> Any how please see what I posted.
>
> I also have a story of how I saved my nephews life who had aids with
> it!
>
> thanks and take care


Ha ha ha, that's really funny. It's a good thing no people will ever take
that seriously.



Reply from: Waterspider
Date: 16 Mar 2008, 23:26
Re: my experiences with st. john's wort


"Jamffer" <jamffer@hotmail . com > wrote in message
news:13tqdrnbiqph69d@corp.supernews . com ...
>
> "realwort" <realwort@gmail . com > wrote in message
> news:39f902b5-0f52-48cd-ae79-7dd6f07d434e@n77g2000hse.googlegroups . com ...
>> I didn't see this before I started my own group called
>> "herbalremedies" without the underscore. I posted one experience
>> where I cured a dog of parvo with st. john's. I also had hepatitis C
>> and actually cured it (I have a PCR negative test ... the genetic
>> test) which proved I got rid of it. It took 5 years (as far as I know
>> because I only had one test done due to the expense, so it may of took
>> only 3 years, Dunno..?!
>>
>> Any how please see what I posted.
>>
>> I also have a story of how I saved my nephews life who had aids with
>> it!
>>
>> thanks and take care
>
>
> Ha ha ha, that's really funny. It's a good thing no people will ever take
> that seriously.
>
Jamffer, you over-estimate people's intelligence. There's a multi-billion
dollar industry based on people believing these kinds of things.



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