psa Test

psa Test

I am 46 in July. I had a PSA test in about 11/04 PSA was 2.5.

Then had another in 12/05 PSA was 2.7.

I just had another this month it was 3.2. My research suggest it could be a
problem at my age but seems borderline it terms of numbers. I had a
grandfather who had prostate cancer and died I believe when he was about 60.

Thoughts suggestions?


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Mark Cleary
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Re: psa Test

Don't worry, this is just within the norm for your age. PSA is a very poor
indicator of prostate cancer,it could be BPH or prostalitis or just that
your PSA bounces.You can reduce your PSA by cutting out, at stage 1 red
meat, stage 2 all meat,stage 3 go vegan. I have prostate cancer diagnosed
after 5 years of tests,I'm now 60. Tests started because of flow problems
and it took a saturation biopsy under a general to find it. My PSA was at
its highest 42 ,average 32 over 5 years reduced to 10 to11 after going
vegan. PSA is an excellent indicator of movement once a cancer has been
detected, less activity the better. It seems common ground that 2 or 3 in 10
men over 40 have PC in some stage or another but it won't be detected and
the vast majority will die of other causes.Radical surgery (and it is
radical!) only gives a 2% increase in suvival rates so avoid "cut happy"
doctors. Repeat don't worry its probably nothing, something else,or so
early in what is a discreet very slow growing condition as not to be worth
doing anything about except monitoring for years to come. My Drs are quite
confident I will die of old age at normal span without PC being an issue (if
they are wrong I'll sue post mortem.)
Jon Barton

"Mark Cleary" <mcleary1@verizondot . net > wrote in message
news:BnlJh.823$Eg4.344@trnddc03...
>I am 46 in July. I had a PSA test in about 11/04 PSA was 2.5.
>
> Then had another in 12/05 PSA was 2.7.
>
> I just had another this month it was 3.2. My research suggest it could be
> a
> problem at my age but seems borderline it terms of numbers. I had a
> grandfather who had prostate cancer and died I believe when he was about
> 60.
>
> Thoughts suggestions?
>
>
> --
> Mark Cleary
> Hollenbeck Jazz Guitars the Finest
> Handcarved Jazz Guitars
> * members.cox . net /ruthster/hollenbeck/
>
>

Re: psa Test

Jon,
Thanks for responding I don't know the NG very well just thought I would
post this. I am going to see a urologist my Dr is sending me at my request.


--
Mark Cleary
Hollenbeck Jazz Guitars the Finest
Handcarved Jazz Guitars
* members.cox . net /ruthster/hollenbeck/
"Jon Barton" <jongerry@madasafish . com > wrote in message
news:O6mdnaTW3oNXIGrYRVnyugA@brightview . com ...
> Don't worry, this is just within the norm for your age. PSA is a very poor
> indicator of prostate cancer,it could be BPH or prostalitis or just that
> your PSA bounces.You can reduce your PSA by cutting out, at stage 1 red
> meat, stage 2 all meat,stage 3 go vegan. I have prostate cancer diagnosed
> after 5 years of tests,I'm now 60. Tests started because of flow problems
> and it took a saturation biopsy under a general to find it. My PSA was at
> its highest 42 ,average 32 over 5 years reduced to 10 to11 after going
> vegan. PSA is an excellent indicator of movement once a cancer has been
> detected, less activity the better. It seems common ground that 2 or 3 in
10
> men over 40 have PC in some stage or another but it won't be detected and
> the vast majority will die of other causes.Radical surgery (and it is
> radical!) only gives a 2% increase in suvival rates so avoid "cut happy"
> doctors. Repeat don't worry its probably nothing, something else,or so
> early in what is a discreet very slow growing condition as not to be worth
> doing anything about except monitoring for years to come. My Drs are quite
> confident I will die of old age at normal span without PC being an issue
(if
> they are wrong I'll sue post mortem.)
> Jon Barton
>
> "Mark Cleary" <mcleary1@verizondot . net > wrote in message
> news:BnlJh.823$Eg4.344@trnddc03...
> >I am 46 in July. I had a PSA test in about 11/04 PSA was 2.5.
> >
> > Then had another in 12/05 PSA was 2.7.
> >
> > I just had another this month it was 3.2. My research suggest it could
be
> > a
> > problem at my age but seems borderline it terms of numbers. I had a
> > grandfather who had prostate cancer and died I believe when he was about
> > 60.
> >
> > Thoughts suggestions?
> >
> >
> > --
> > Mark Cleary
> > Hollenbeck Jazz Guitars the Finest
> > Handcarved Jazz Guitars
> > * members.cox . net /ruthster/hollenbeck/
> >
> >
>
>

Re: psa Test

Jon Barton wrote:
> Don't worry, this is just within the norm for your age. PSA is a very poor
> indicator of prostate cancer,it could be BPH or prostalitis or just that
> your PSA bounces.You can reduce your PSA by cutting out, at stage 1 red
> meat, stage 2 all meat,stage 3 go vegan. I have prostate cancer diagnosed
> after 5 years of tests,I'm now 60. Tests started because of flow problems
> and it took a saturation biopsy under a general to find it. My PSA was at
> its highest 42 ,average 32 over 5 years reduced to 10 to11 after going
> vegan. PSA is an excellent indicator of movement once a cancer has been
> detected, less activity the better. It seems common ground that 2 or 3 in 10
> men over 40 have PC in some stage or another but it won't be detected and
> the vast majority will die of other causes.Radical surgery (and it is
> radical!) only gives a 2% increase in suvival rates so avoid "cut happy"
> doctors. Repeat don't worry its probably nothing, something else,or so
> early in what is a discreet very slow growing condition as not to be worth
> doing anything about except monitoring for years to come. My Drs are quite
> confident I will die of old age at normal span without PC being an issue (if
> they are wrong I'll sue post mortem.)
> Jon Barton
>
> "Mark Cleary" <mcleary1@verizondot . net > wrote in message
> news:BnlJh.823$Eg4.344@trnddc03...
>> I am 46 in July. I had a PSA test in about 11/04 PSA was 2.5.
>>
>> Then had another in 12/05 PSA was 2.7.
>>
>> I just had another this month it was 3.2. My research suggest it could be
>> a
>> problem at my age but seems borderline it terms of numbers. I had a
>> grandfather who had prostate cancer and died I believe when he was about
>> 60.
>>
>> Thoughts suggestions?

Yes. Go over to alt.support.cancer.prostate for a much bigger and highly
informed audience and a 30-fold increase in traffic. PC in your family
tree and a 0.5 annual increase isn't alarming but does merit close
monitoring. I think you'll be informed there that "Watchful Waiting" is
not often a rational approach for a man of 60, let alone your age, once
PC is diagnosed.

I.P.

Re: psa Test


"I.P. Freely" <fuhgheddaboutit@noway.nohow> wrote in message
news:qTTJh.8$Yw2.4@newsfe04.lga...
> Jon Barton wrote:
>> Don't worry, this is just within the norm for your age. PSA is a very
>> poor indicator of prostate cancer,it could be BPH or prostalitis or just
>> that your PSA bounces.You can reduce your PSA by cutting out, at stage 1
>> red meat, stage 2 all meat,stage 3 go vegan. I have prostate cancer
>> diagnosed after 5 years of tests,I'm now 60. Tests started because of
>> flow problems and it took a saturation biopsy under a general to find it.
>> My PSA was at its highest 42 ,average 32 over 5 years reduced to 10 to11
>> after going vegan. PSA is an excellent indicator of movement once a
>> cancer has been detected, less activity the better. It seems common
>> ground that 2 or 3 in 10 men over 40 have PC in some stage or another but
>> it won't be detected and the vast majority will die of other
>> causes.Radical surgery (and it is radical!) only gives a 2% increase in
>> suvival rates so avoid "cut happy" doctors. Repeat don't worry its
>> probably nothing, something else,or so early in what is a discreet very
>> slow growing condition as not to be worth doing anything about except
>> monitoring for years to come. My Drs are quite confident I will die of
>> old age at normal span without PC being an issue (if they are wrong I'll
>> sue post mortem.)
>> Jon Barton
>>
>> "Mark Cleary" <mcleary1@verizondot . net > wrote in message
>> news:BnlJh.823$Eg4.344@trnddc03...
>>> I am 46 in July. I had a PSA test in about 11/04 PSA was 2.5.
>>>
>>> Then had another in 12/05 PSA was 2.7.
>>>
>>> I just had another this month it was 3.2. My research suggest it could
>>> be a
>>> problem at my age but seems borderline it terms of numbers. I had a
>>> grandfather who had prostate cancer and died I believe when he was about
>>> 60.
>>>
>>> Thoughts suggestions?
>
> Yes. Go over to alt.support.cancer.prostate for a much bigger and highly
> informed audience and a 30-fold increase in traffic. PC in your family
> tree and a 0.5 annual increase isn't alarming but does merit close
> monitoring. I think you'll be informed there that "Watchful Waiting" is
> not often a rational approach for a man of 60, let alone your age, once PC
> is diagnosed.
>
> I.P.

"The Yellow Stream" shows us his personal opinions once again.

Re: psa Test

george conklin wrote:
> "I.P. Freely"
>> Yes. Go over to alt.support.cancer.prostate for a much bigger and highly
>> informed audience and a 30-fold increase in traffic. PC in your family
>> tree and a 0.5 annual increase isn't alarming but does merit close
>> monitoring. I think you'll be informed there that "Watchful Waiting" is
>> not often a rational approach for a man of 60, let alone your age, once PC
>> is diagnosed.
>>
>> I.P.
>
> "The Yellow Stream" shows us his personal opinions once again.

Uh, yes . . . isn't that exactly what Mark asked for? Quoting him:
"Thoughts, suggestions?". I even threw in a couple of obvious facts,
free, before stating one opinion, clearly identified as such by the
words, "I think" (because I don't know for a fact how many a.s.c.p.
people would inform him of the risks of a relatively young man not
treating his known prostate cancer.)

If clearly labeled opinions bother you, you might be dabbling in the
wrong medium.

I.P.

Re: psa Test


"I.P. Freely" <fuhgheddaboutit@noway.nohow> wrote in message
news:uC2Kh.66$Yw2.29@newsfe04.lga...
> george conklin wrote:
>> "I.P. Freely"
>>> Yes. Go over to alt.support.cancer.prostate for a much bigger and highly
>>> informed audience and a 30-fold increase in traffic. PC in your family
>>> tree and a 0.5 annual increase isn't alarming but does merit close
>>> monitoring. I think you'll be informed there that "Watchful Waiting" is
>>> not often a rational approach for a man of 60, let alone your age, once
>>> PC is diagnosed.
>>>
>>> I.P.
>>
>> "The Yellow Stream" shows us his personal opinions once again.
>
> Uh, yes . . . isn't that exactly what Mark asked for? Quoting him:
> "Thoughts, suggestions?". I even threw in a couple of obvious facts, free,
> before stating one opinion, clearly identified as such by the words, "I
> think" (because I don't know for a fact how many a.s.c.p. people would
> inform him of the risks of a relatively young man not treating his known
> prostate cancer.)
>
> If clearly labeled opinions bother you, you might be dabbling in the wrong
> medium.
>
> I.P.

Yes, it is too bad that science group has simply become an opinion group.

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george conklin wrote:

> it is too bad that science group has simply become an opinion group.

A WHOLE lot of cancer "science" *is* little more than opinions. Of
course, the opinions of bone fide cancer experts usually outweigh those
of us patients.

I.P.

Re: psa Test

Mark Cleary wrote:
> I am 46 in July. I had a PSA test in about 11/04 PSA was 2.5.
>
> Then had another in 12/05 PSA was 2.7.
>
> I just had another this month it was 3.2. My research suggest it could be a
> problem at my age but seems borderline it terms of numbers. I had a
> grandfather who had prostate cancer and died I believe when he was about 60.
>
> Thoughts suggestions?
>
>

Your research is correct. According to current standards, a PSA of 3.2
at age 46 is marginally high, and the rate of increase is below the
usual standard of 0.75 ng/ml per year. Some recent studies suggest
that threshold should be reduced. It is of course also true that BPH
could be causing your PSA rise. If you haven't done so already, it
might be appropriate to consult a urologist.

One thing you should keep in mind is that if indeed you are diagnosed
with prostate cancer, if you are treated by a skilled practitioner, the
likelihood of serious side effects like incontinence or impotence are
not specially high.