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Blood samples for hemotology study

Reply from: x01001x
Date: 09 Jan 2008, 09:53
Blood samples for hemotology study

What is the best way to procure test tubes of fresh blood for study?
The pathology department around here always has the AIDS blood. I need
healthier blood to study under microscope.

Reply from: Manky Badger
Date: 09 Jan 2008, 16:12
Re: Blood samples for hemotology study


"x01001x" <xemail@softhome . net > wrote in message
news:45b13faf-29f1-43b6-afd3-cc368f66c7af@i3g2000hsf.googlegroups . com ...
> What is the best way to procure test tubes of fresh blood for study?
> The pathology department around here always has the AIDS blood. I need
> healthier blood to study under microscope.

And how, haematologically speaking, do you feel that "AIDS blood" will
differ from "healthier blood" under the microscope?



Reply from: x01001x
Date: 12 Jan 2008, 03:41
Re: Blood samples for hemotology study

On Jan 9, 9:12 am, "Manky Badger" <you.m...@be.joking> wrote:
> "x01001x" <xem...@softhome . net > wrote in message
>
> news:45b13faf-29f1-43b6-afd3-cc368f66c7af@i3g2000hsf.googlegroups . com ...
>
> > What is the best way to procure test tubes of fresh blood for study?
> > The pathology department around here always has the AIDS blood. I need
> > healthier blood to study under microscope.
>
> And how, haematologically speaking, do you feel that "AIDS blood" will
> differ from "healthier blood" under the microscope?

That's a non-issue.
The issue is that AIDS blood is DANGEROUS.

Why do I have to type this?

Reply from: Manky Badger
Date: 12 Jan 2008, 10:32
Re: Blood samples for hemotology study


"x01001x" <xemail@softhome . net > wrote in message
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On Jan 9, 9:12 am, "Manky Badger" <you.m...@be.joking> wrote:
> "x01001x" <xem...@softhome . net > wrote in message
>
> news:45b13faf-29f1-43b6-afd3-cc368f66c7af@i3g2000hsf.googlegroups . com ...
>
> > What is the best way to procure test tubes of fresh blood for study?
> > The pathology department around here always has the AIDS blood. I need
> > healthier blood to study under microscope.
>
> And how, haematologically speaking, do you feel that "AIDS blood" will
> differ from "healthier blood" under the microscope?

That's a non-issue.
The issue is that AIDS blood is DANGEROUS.

Why do I have to type this?

________________________________


AIDS blood is dangerous?
Why?
Because of the virus that died within seconds of the blood sample being
collected?
Or because of any virus that might possibly have survived only to be killed
in the fixation process before going under the microscope?
And your implicit assumption that blood from a non - HIV source is safe
speaks volumes.

Why do *I* have to type this? - The fact that obviously I do have to makes
me think that perhaps you might be better off typing "blood microscopy" into
Google images



Reply from: JEDilworth
Date: 13 Jan 2008, 06:07
Re: Blood samples for hemotology study

I believe that I read somewhere that Hepatitis B (and probably other
types) can survive on dried surfaces for quite some time (months). You
must wear gloves and protective gowns when working with ANY blood
nowadays. In the US, this is called "universal precautions" and is
required in all laboratories. It consists of using PPE (personal
protective equipment) which, at the minimum, consists of gloves and
fluid proof gown over your clothing. If you don't use this when working
with blood nowadays you're taking many chances.

* w w w .cdc.gov/ncidod/dhqp/bp_universal_precautions.html

If you're that worried, have someone stick you and draw a whole bunch of
tubes. If you refrigerate them, you can work on them for a few days. I
would assume you need EDTA blood for what you're doing.

Recruiting friends is not a good idea either because you have no idea of
what their HIV status is over a stranger. You must assume that all blood
is the same, i.e. potentially infectious, and take the proper
precautions when working with it.

What are you studying anyway?

Judy Dilworth, M.T. (ASCP)
Microbiology (but used to Hematology years ago)


"Manky Badger" <you.must@be.joking> wrote in message
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> Why do *I* have to type this? - The fact that obviously I do have to
> makes me think that perhaps you might be better off typing "blood
> microscopy" into Google images


Reply from: x01001x
Date: 13 Jan 2008, 08:48
Re: Blood samples for hemotology study

I'm trying to buy lab samples.

Is there a company that supplies blood samples for study?

Usually I see them providing dried blood on a slide.
That's why I was specifically asking for test tubes with wet fresh
blood.

Reply from: Manky Badger
Date: 13 Jan 2008, 10:16
Re: Blood samples for hemotology study


"x01001x" <xemail@softhome . net > wrote in message
news:ed06d133-2a06-4835-a47e-0a7f5f0b2ed4@h11g2000prf.googlegroups . com ...
> I'm trying to buy lab samples.
>
> Is there a company that supplies blood samples for study?
>
> Usually I see them providing dried blood on a slide.
> That's why I was specifically asking for test tubes with wet fresh
> blood.

What on earth do you want to do with this stuff ? How do you intend to
"study" it?



Reply from: kuhnfucius
Date: 18 Jan 2008, 05:28
Re: Blood samples for hemotology study

Perhaps we should report this to department of homeland security? Sounds
like a future bio-terrorist. He gives me the shivers already.

'I ain't never been lost, but I may have been confused once or
twice'.---Daniel Boone


"Manky Badger" <you.must@be.joking> wrote in message
news:oPydnRBE15hKSxTaRVnyugA@giganews . com ...
>
> "x01001x" <xemail@softhome . net > wrote in message
> news:ed06d133-2a06-4835-a47e-0a7f5f0b2ed4@h11g2000prf.googlegroups . com ...
>> I'm trying to buy lab samples.
>>
>> Is there a company that supplies blood samples for study?
>>
>> Usually I see them providing dried blood on a slide.
>> That's why I was specifically asking for test tubes with wet fresh
>> blood.
>
> What on earth do you want to do with this stuff ? How do you intend to
> "study" it?
>



Reply from: Arcie
Date: 13 Jan 2008, 19:13
Re: Blood samples for hemotology study

It would help alot if you would tell us how or what you are trying to do
with the fresh samples. I assume you have never worked in a clinical
laboratory and are striking out on your own, otherwise the educational
system where you are doing the study would be able to procure fresh
specimens for you daily.

Most of us here have a clinical laboratory or other laboratory
background. If you really want the help just tell us what you are
trying to do. We can guide you appropriately. BTW Judy's response was
dead on....

x01001x wrote:
> I'm trying to buy lab samples.
>
> Is there a company that supplies blood samples for study?
>
> Usually I see them providing dried blood on a slide.
> That's why I was specifically asking for test tubes with wet fresh
> blood.

Reply from: Manky Badger
Date: 13 Jan 2008, 20:05
Re: Blood samples for hemotology study


"Arcie" <arciemizelle@frontiernet . net > wrote in message
news:dxsij.2084$7d1.1729@news01.roc.ny...
> It would help alot if you would tell us how or what you are trying to do
> with the fresh samples. I assume you have never worked in a clinical
> laboratory and are striking out on your own, otherwise the educational
> system where you are doing the study would be able to procure fresh
> specimens for you daily.

Which is why I can't help but feel that Google images or something like
* w w w .haematology.org/ might be more use.




Reply from: x01001x
Date: 14 Jan 2008, 05:23
Re: Blood samples for hemotology study

First of all, I DO have experience dealing with biohazards and
biosamples.
Usually though I am dealing with human tissue stored in preservatives,
not blood.

Second, I have experience dealing with microbotany, and am migrating
to the study of hemoglobin under microscope. I want the test tubes so
I can keep them cold and also put them through centrifuge, which is
impossible with slide samples.

I'm going to request that you guys stop making me type stuff that's
not necessary, and just answer the question.

Honestly, people with doctorates get away with murder!

"HEY! WHERE ARE YOU GOING WITH THAT TEST TUBE!?"


Reply from: Manky Badger
Date: 14 Jan 2008, 10:06
Re: Blood samples for hemotology study


"x01001x" <xemail@softhome . net > wrote in message
news:87cc8949-7a25-4344-a3d4-728aea96a55b@k39g2000hsf.googlegroups . com ...
> First of all, I DO have experience dealing with biohazards and
> biosamples.
> Usually though I am dealing with human tissue stored in preservatives,
> not blood.
>
> Second, I have experience dealing with microbotany, and am migrating
> to the study of hemoglobin under microscope. I want the test tubes so
> I can keep them cold and also put them through centrifuge, which is
> impossible with slide samples.
>
> I'm going to request that you guys stop making me type stuff that's
> not necessary, and just answer the question.

I'm sorry for any offence, but in the same vein I'm going to ask that
(bearing in mind your allleged experience) that you stop asking questions
that lead us to beleive you have absoltely no experience in the field at
all.

Take for example your sentence "migrating to the study of hemoglobin under
microscope. I want the test tubes so I can keep them cold and also put them
through centrifuge, which is impossible with slide samples."
What exactly do you have in mind?
What "study" are you trying to do?

Perhaps if you were a bt more forthcoming with what you are attempting, we
could be more helpful.....



Reply from: Arcie
Date: 14 Jan 2008, 14:58
Re: Blood samples for hemotology study

I am not trying to be mean or anything...but do you realize what "study
hemoglobin under microscope" sounds like to us. Are you going to be
using something other than a light microscope. If not I assume you are
going to be doing gross studies of rbc structure. Any study of
hemoglobin under the microscope is going to require whole blood, the
hemoglobin is in the RBC unless you are lysing the red blood cells.

I do not question your abilities or you knowledge in your primary field.
If you want help with this project quit being evasive when we ask a
question. Give us enough information to help you out. Your initial
inquiry and responses indicated you didn't have a clue about clinical
laboratory science.

No intent to offend you here, but if you want help, be more specific and
forthcomming with you questions and answers.


x01001x wrote:
> First of all, I DO have experience dealing with biohazards and
> biosamples.
> Usually though I am dealing with human tissue stored in preservatives,
> not blood.
>
> Second, I have experience dealing with microbotany, and am migrating
> to the study of hemoglobin under microscope. I want the test tubes so
> I can keep them cold and also put them through centrifuge, which is
> impossible with slide samples.
>
> I'm going to request that you guys stop making me type stuff that's
> not necessary, and just answer the question.
>
> Honestly, people with doctorates get away with murder!
>
> "HEY! WHERE ARE YOU GOING WITH THAT TEST TUBE!?"
>

Reply from: x01001x
Date: 21 Feb 2008, 06:55
Re: Blood samples for hemotology study

There's not just a whole lot of reason for me to bend over backwards
for you guys on this one.
Dealing with AIDS contaminated blood is dangerous.
I shouldn't have to justify seeking safe blood.

Reply from: Manky Badger
Date: 21 Feb 2008, 10:21
Re: Blood samples for hemotology study


"x01001x" <xemail@softhome . net > wrote in message
news:71167053-912f-44d5-9c4f-55f7c6b76134@h25g2000hsf.googlegroups . com ...
> There's not just a whole lot of reason for me to bend over backwards
> for you guys on this one.
> Dealing with AIDS contaminated blood is dangerous.
> I shouldn't have to justify seeking safe blood.

Would a dead dog bite you?




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