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Arthritis sufferer grew cannabis
AN arthritis sufferer who grew cannabis in the attic of her home for
"medicinal purposes" has appeared in court.
Mandy Towler, 41, of Barnwell Road, Melksham pleaded guilty to cultivating
cannabis, when she appeared at Chippenham magistrates' court on Thursday
morning.
Prosecutor Kate Blackmore told the court how police had seized 14 cannabis
plants and a hydroponics system used to cultivate the plants, when they
carried out a dawn raid on her home in January.
Officers from the Divisional Proactive Unit based in Melksham conducted
the operation after receiving a tip-off.
A quantity of white powder was also found at the scene, but was later
discovered to be glucose powder.
In a police interview Towler said she had been diagnosed with rheumatoid
arthritis and was growing the cannabis for medicinal purposes.
In her defence, Towler told police that instead of smoking the drug, she
used it in her tea to help alleviate the pain caused by her condition.
She said it was cheaper to grow the plants herself, rather than having to
buy them from a dealer.
Defending, Michael Wills, said his client was on disability benefits and
income support.
The court heard that Towler, who has to go to Bath Royal United Hospital
for Rheumatic Diseases every three months for treatment, has an 18
year-old daughter as well as caring for her father who is 78.
Jane Tadman, spokesman for Arthritis Research Campaign, said sufferers
were forced to try other options of pain relief, away from conventional
medicine.
She said: "The problem is that there aren't many drugs that have much of a
benefit, in terms of pain relief, without having side effects. There are a
lot of painkillers on the market but often they don't help if the pain is
severe.
"It is understandable that people try other options. We feel that whatever
helps people and isn't harmful is okay by us really. People should be
allowed to use the drug to alleviate their pain."
Magistrates requested a probation service report following their concerns
over a disabled person's ability to access the loft, the amount of
cannabis discovered and the fact that a teenager also lives in the house.
Towler, who was released on unconditional bail, is due to return to court
on Wednesday, May 2 for sentencing.
4:50pm today
By Victoria Ashford
--
Phil Stovell, Hampshire, UK
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Arthritis sufferer grew cannabis
AN arthritis sufferer who grew cannabis in the attic of her home for
"medicinal purposes" has appeared in court.
Mandy Towler, 41, of Barnwell Road, Melksham pleaded guilty to cultivating
cannabis, when she appeared at Chippenham magistrates' court on Thursday
morning.
Prosecutor Kate Blackmore told the court how police had seized 14 cannabis
plants and a hydroponics system used to cultivate the plants, when they
carried out a dawn raid on her home in January.
Officers from the Divisional Proactive Unit based in Melksham conducted
the operation after receiving a tip-off.
A quantity of white powder was also found at the scene, but was later
discovered to be glucose powder.
In a police interview Towler said she had been diagnosed with rheumatoid
arthritis and was growing the cannabis for medicinal purposes.
In her defence, Towler told police that instead of smoking the drug, she
used it in her tea to help alleviate the pain caused by her condition.
She said it was cheaper to grow the plants herself, rather than having to
buy them from a dealer.
Defending, Michael Wills, said his client was on disability benefits and
income support.
The court heard that Towler, who has to go to Bath Royal United Hospital
for Rheumatic Diseases every three months for treatment, has an 18
year-old daughter as well as caring for her father who is 78.
Jane Tadman, spokesman for Arthritis Research Campaign, said sufferers
were forced to try other options of pain relief, away from conventional
medicine.
She said: "The problem is that there aren't many drugs that have much of a
benefit, in terms of pain relief, without having side effects. There are a
lot of painkillers on the market but often they don't help if the pain is
severe.
"It is understandable that people try other options. We feel that whatever
helps people and isn't harmful is okay by us really. People should be
allowed to use the drug to alleviate their pain."
Magistrates requested a probation service report following their concerns
over a disabled person's ability to access the loft, the amount of
cannabis discovered and the fact that a teenager also lives in the house.
Towler, who was released on unconditional bail, is due to return to court
on Wednesday, May 2 for sentencing.
4:50pm today
By Victoria Ashford
--
Phil Stovell, Hampshire, UK
Re: War on drugs being won - another sick person facing jail
On Tue, 10 Apr 2007 19:24:50 +0100, Phil Stovell <phil@stovell.org.uk>
wrote:
>< * w w w .thisiswiltshire.co.uk/news/headlines/display.var.1319135.0.arthritis_sufferer_grew_cannabis.php>
>
>Arthritis sufferer grew cannabis
>
>AN arthritis sufferer who grew cannabis in the attic of her home for
>"medicinal purposes" has appeared in court.
>
>Mandy Towler, 41, of Barnwell Road, Melksham pleaded guilty to cultivating
>cannabis, when she appeared at Chippenham magistrates' court on Thursday
>morning.
>
>Prosecutor Kate Blackmore told the court how police had seized 14 cannabis
>plants and a hydroponics system used to cultivate the plants, when they
>carried out a dawn raid on her home in January.
>Officers from the Divisional Proactive Unit based in Melksham conducted
>the operation after receiving a tip-off.
There has been a bit of worry, because of a proposed law change, about
vigilantes attacking suspected paedophiles recently.
But if anybody is in need of working over with a baseball bat until
the broken bones show through it is the sort of low life who tips plod
off in cases like this.
Clough
On Tue, 10 Apr 2007 19:24:50 +0100, Phil Stovell <phil@stovell.org.uk>
wrote:
>< * w w w .thisiswiltshire.co.uk/news/headlines/display.var.1319135.0.arthritis_sufferer_grew_cannabis.php>
>
>Arthritis sufferer grew cannabis
>
>AN arthritis sufferer who grew cannabis in the attic of her home for
>"medicinal purposes" has appeared in court.
>
>Mandy Towler, 41, of Barnwell Road, Melksham pleaded guilty to cultivating
>cannabis, when she appeared at Chippenham magistrates' court on Thursday
>morning.
>
>Prosecutor Kate Blackmore told the court how police had seized 14 cannabis
>plants and a hydroponics system used to cultivate the plants, when they
>carried out a dawn raid on her home in January.
>Officers from the Divisional Proactive Unit based in Melksham conducted
>the operation after receiving a tip-off.
There has been a bit of worry, because of a proposed law change, about
vigilantes attacking suspected paedophiles recently.
But if anybody is in need of working over with a baseball bat until
the broken bones show through it is the sort of low life who tips plod
off in cases like this.
Clough
Re: War on drugs being won - another sick person facing jail
On Apr 10, 7:50 pm, Clough <i...@canoemail . com > wrote:
> On Tue, 10 Apr 2007 19:24:50 +0100, Phil Stovell <p...@stovell.org.uk>
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> >< * w w w .thisiswiltshire.co.uk/news/headlines/display.var.1319135.0...>
>
> >Arthritis sufferer grew cannabis
>
> >AN arthritis sufferer who grew cannabis in the attic of her home for
> >"medicinal purposes" has appeared in court.
>
> >Mandy Towler, 41, of Barnwell Road, Melksham pleaded guilty to cultivating
> >cannabis, when she appeared at Chippenham magistrates' court on Thursday
> >morning.
>
> >Prosecutor Kate Blackmore told the court how police had seized 14 cannabis
> >plants and a hydroponics system used to cultivate the plants, when they
> >carried out a dawn raid on her home in January.
> >Officers from the Divisional Proactive Unit based in Melksham conducted
> >the operation after receiving a tip-off.
>
> There has been a bit of worry, because of a proposed law change, about
> vigilantes attacking suspected paedophiles recently.
>
> But if anybody is in need of working over with a baseball bat until
> the broken bones show through it is the sort of low life who tips plod
> off in cases like this.
>
> Clough- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
Allah Akbar
On Apr 10, 7:50 pm, Clough <i...@canoemail . com > wrote:
> On Tue, 10 Apr 2007 19:24:50 +0100, Phil Stovell <p...@stovell.org.uk>
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> >< * w w w .thisiswiltshire.co.uk/news/headlines/display.var.1319135.0...>
>
> >Arthritis sufferer grew cannabis
>
> >AN arthritis sufferer who grew cannabis in the attic of her home for
> >"medicinal purposes" has appeared in court.
>
> >Mandy Towler, 41, of Barnwell Road, Melksham pleaded guilty to cultivating
> >cannabis, when she appeared at Chippenham magistrates' court on Thursday
> >morning.
>
> >Prosecutor Kate Blackmore told the court how police had seized 14 cannabis
> >plants and a hydroponics system used to cultivate the plants, when they
> >carried out a dawn raid on her home in January.
> >Officers from the Divisional Proactive Unit based in Melksham conducted
> >the operation after receiving a tip-off.
>
> There has been a bit of worry, because of a proposed law change, about
> vigilantes attacking suspected paedophiles recently.
>
> But if anybody is in need of working over with a baseball bat until
> the broken bones show through it is the sort of low life who tips plod
> off in cases like this.
>
> Clough- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
Allah Akbar
Re: War on drugs being won - another sick person facing jail
On Apr 10, 7:24 pm, Phil Stovell <p...@stovell.org.uk> wrote:
> < * w w w .thisiswiltshire.co.uk/news/headlines/display.var.1319135.0...>
<<<<<snip>>>>
> Magistrates requested a probation service report following their concerns
> over a disabled person's ability to access the loft, the amount of
> cannabis discovered and the fact that a teenager also lives in the house.
<<<<snip>>>>
I find this slightly worrying - definietly should have pleaded not
guilty. (all three factors (loft, teenager and quanity) are entirely
irrelevent in the real world of normal people rather than nerd, jerk
and creep). They (magistrates) seem to be hinting that she is a
commerical grower, (so what anyway really) and thus are considering a
jail sentance, thus the probation report. (I think)...but as she is
charged with cultivation, rather than production, this is something
that the CPS themselves don't consider relevent. Don't forget you can
appeal sentance.
On Apr 10, 7:24 pm, Phil Stovell <p...@stovell.org.uk> wrote:
> < * w w w .thisiswiltshire.co.uk/news/headlines/display.var.1319135.0...>
<<<<<snip>>>>
> Magistrates requested a probation service report following their concerns
> over a disabled person's ability to access the loft, the amount of
> cannabis discovered and the fact that a teenager also lives in the house.
<<<<snip>>>>
I find this slightly worrying - definietly should have pleaded not
guilty. (all three factors (loft, teenager and quanity) are entirely
irrelevent in the real world of normal people rather than nerd, jerk
and creep). They (magistrates) seem to be hinting that she is a
commerical grower, (so what anyway really) and thus are considering a
jail sentance, thus the probation report. (I think)...but as she is
charged with cultivation, rather than production, this is something
that the CPS themselves don't consider relevent. Don't forget you can
appeal sentance.
Re: War on drugs being won - another sick person facing jail
On Apr 11, 9:54 am, "King Amdo" <King A...@hotmail . com > wrote:
> On Apr 10, 7:24 pm, Phil Stovell <p...@stovell.org.uk> wrote:
>
> > < * w w w .thisiswiltshire.co.uk/news/headlines/display.var.1319135.0...>
>
> <<<<<snip>>>>
>
> > Magistrates requested a probation service report following their concerns
> > over a disabled person's ability to access the loft, the amount of
> >cannabisdiscovered and the fact that a teenager also lives in the house.
>
> <<<<snip>>>>
>
> I find this slightly worrying - definietly should have pleaded not
> guilty. (all three factors (loft, teenager and quanity) are entirely
> irrelevent in the real world of normal people rather than nerd, jerk
> and creep). They (magistrates) seem to be hinting that she is a
> commerical grower, (so what anyway really) and thus are considering a
> jail sentance, thus the probation report. (I think)...but as she is
> charged with cultivation, rather than production, this is something
> that the CPS themselves don't consider relevent. Don't forget you can
> appeal sentance.
That definietly needs to be highlighted by the defence - this person
is being sentanced for cultivation and not production! The magistrates
appear to be taking it upon themselves to reinvestigate the crime!
I guess these old cases think that they can hide behind the
annonimity of the 'bench' - bad luck you sad old hopeless wankers -
there is no escape from karma.
Take care scum, take care,
Blessed be.
On Apr 11, 9:54 am, "King Amdo" <King A...@hotmail . com > wrote:
> On Apr 10, 7:24 pm, Phil Stovell <p...@stovell.org.uk> wrote:
>
> > < * w w w .thisiswiltshire.co.uk/news/headlines/display.var.1319135.0...>
>
> <<<<<snip>>>>
>
> > Magistrates requested a probation service report following their concerns
> > over a disabled person's ability to access the loft, the amount of
> >cannabisdiscovered and the fact that a teenager also lives in the house.
>
> <<<<snip>>>>
>
> I find this slightly worrying - definietly should have pleaded not
> guilty. (all three factors (loft, teenager and quanity) are entirely
> irrelevent in the real world of normal people rather than nerd, jerk
> and creep). They (magistrates) seem to be hinting that she is a
> commerical grower, (so what anyway really) and thus are considering a
> jail sentance, thus the probation report. (I think)...but as she is
> charged with cultivation, rather than production, this is something
> that the CPS themselves don't consider relevent. Don't forget you can
> appeal sentance.
That definietly needs to be highlighted by the defence - this person
is being sentanced for cultivation and not production! The magistrates
appear to be taking it upon themselves to reinvestigate the crime!
I guess these old cases think that they can hide behind the
annonimity of the 'bench' - bad luck you sad old hopeless wankers -
there is no escape from karma.
Take care scum, take care,
Blessed be.
Re: War on drugs being won - another sick person facing jail
On Apr 12, 10:14 am, "King Amdo" <King A...@hotmail . com > wrote:
> On Apr 11, 9:54 am, "King Amdo" <King A...@hotmail . com > wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Apr 10, 7:24 pm, Phil Stovell <p...@stovell.org.uk> wrote:
>
> > > < * w w w .thisiswiltshire.co.uk/news/headlines/display.var.1319135.0...>
>
> > <<<<<snip>>>>
>
> > > Magistrates requested a probation service report following their concerns
> > > over a disabled person's ability to access the loft, the amount of
> > >cannabisdiscovered and the fact that a teenager also lives in the house.
>
> > <<<<snip>>>>
>
> > I find this slightly worrying - definietly should have pleaded not
> > guilty. (all three factors (loft, teenager and quanity) are entirely
> > irrelevent in the real world of normal people rather than nerd, jerk
> > and creep). They (magistrates) seem to be hinting that she is a
> > commerical grower, (so what anyway really) and thus are considering a
> > jail sentance, thus the probation report. (I think)...but as she is
> > charged with cultivation, rather than production, this is something
> > that the CPS themselves don't consider relevent. Don't forget you can
> > appeal sentance.
>
> That definietly needs to be highlighted by the defence - this person
> is being sentanced for cultivation and not production! The magistrates
> appear to be taking it upon themselves to reinvestigate the crime!
>
> I guess these old cases think that they can hide behind the
> annonimity of the 'bench' - bad luck you sad old hopeless wankers -
> there is no escape from karma.
>
> Take care scum, take care,
>
> Blessed be.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
Not only going way beyond their remit and somhow deciding that this
person was commerically growing, their rampant state/murdoch etc
sponsered paranoia has led them to the belief that the teeneager
resident in the house is somehow at risk...the implication being that
the kid should be taken away from his mother etc etc. I for one would
not be very happy at all at being threatened by the plastic pervert
state like this.
Definitly should have 'elected' for Crown Court/jury trial rather than
Magistrates Court - and in fact people, even if you are threatened by
these perverted scum (government people) over a matter of an eigth of
an onze of cannabis (possession), you have the right to trial by Jury
- exercise this right please. Don't allow yourself to be Kowtowed by
this pedo regime/order.
Blessings.
On Apr 12, 10:14 am, "King Amdo" <King A...@hotmail . com > wrote:
> On Apr 11, 9:54 am, "King Amdo" <King A...@hotmail . com > wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Apr 10, 7:24 pm, Phil Stovell <p...@stovell.org.uk> wrote:
>
> > > < * w w w .thisiswiltshire.co.uk/news/headlines/display.var.1319135.0...>
>
> > <<<<<snip>>>>
>
> > > Magistrates requested a probation service report following their concerns
> > > over a disabled person's ability to access the loft, the amount of
> > >cannabisdiscovered and the fact that a teenager also lives in the house.
>
> > <<<<snip>>>>
>
> > I find this slightly worrying - definietly should have pleaded not
> > guilty. (all three factors (loft, teenager and quanity) are entirely
> > irrelevent in the real world of normal people rather than nerd, jerk
> > and creep). They (magistrates) seem to be hinting that she is a
> > commerical grower, (so what anyway really) and thus are considering a
> > jail sentance, thus the probation report. (I think)...but as she is
> > charged with cultivation, rather than production, this is something
> > that the CPS themselves don't consider relevent. Don't forget you can
> > appeal sentance.
>
> That definietly needs to be highlighted by the defence - this person
> is being sentanced for cultivation and not production! The magistrates
> appear to be taking it upon themselves to reinvestigate the crime!
>
> I guess these old cases think that they can hide behind the
> annonimity of the 'bench' - bad luck you sad old hopeless wankers -
> there is no escape from karma.
>
> Take care scum, take care,
>
> Blessed be.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
Not only going way beyond their remit and somhow deciding that this
person was commerically growing, their rampant state/murdoch etc
sponsered paranoia has led them to the belief that the teeneager
resident in the house is somehow at risk...the implication being that
the kid should be taken away from his mother etc etc. I for one would
not be very happy at all at being threatened by the plastic pervert
state like this.
Definitly should have 'elected' for Crown Court/jury trial rather than
Magistrates Court - and in fact people, even if you are threatened by
these perverted scum (government people) over a matter of an eigth of
an onze of cannabis (possession), you have the right to trial by Jury
- exercise this right please. Don't allow yourself to be Kowtowed by
this pedo regime/order.
Blessings.
Re: War on drugs being won - another sick person facing jail
On Apr 11, 3:54 am, "King Amdo" <King A...@hotmail . com > wrote:
> On Apr 10, 7:24 pm, Phil Stovell <p...@stovell.org.uk> wrote:
>
> > < * w w w .thisiswiltshire.co.uk/news/headlines/display.var.1319135.0...>
>
> <<<<<snip>>>>
>
> > Magistrates requested a probation service report following their concerns
> > over a disabled person's ability to access the loft, the amount of
> > cannabis discovered and the fact that a teenager also lives in the house.
>
> <<<<snip>>>>
>
> I find this slightly worrying - definietly should have pleaded not
> guilty. (all three factors (loft, teenager and quanity) are entirely
> irrelevent in the real world of normal people rather than nerd, jerk
> and creep). They (magistrates) seem to be hinting that she is a
> commerical grower, (so what anyway really) and thus are considering a
> jail sentance, thus the probation report. (I think)...but as she is
> charged with cultivation, rather than production, this is something
> that the CPS themselves don't consider relevent. Don't forget you can
> appeal sentance.
It costs too much money to plead not guilty or to appeal only to lose
over some obscure technicality that the prosecution will dream up in
order to save face.
Quite often it is just simply easier to absorb the token punishment
which is given.
The victim walks away feeling not guilt anyway.
On Apr 11, 3:54 am, "King Amdo" <King A...@hotmail . com > wrote:
> On Apr 10, 7:24 pm, Phil Stovell <p...@stovell.org.uk> wrote:
>
> > < * w w w .thisiswiltshire.co.uk/news/headlines/display.var.1319135.0...>
>
> <<<<<snip>>>>
>
> > Magistrates requested a probation service report following their concerns
> > over a disabled person's ability to access the loft, the amount of
> > cannabis discovered and the fact that a teenager also lives in the house.
>
> <<<<snip>>>>
>
> I find this slightly worrying - definietly should have pleaded not
> guilty. (all three factors (loft, teenager and quanity) are entirely
> irrelevent in the real world of normal people rather than nerd, jerk
> and creep). They (magistrates) seem to be hinting that she is a
> commerical grower, (so what anyway really) and thus are considering a
> jail sentance, thus the probation report. (I think)...but as she is
> charged with cultivation, rather than production, this is something
> that the CPS themselves don't consider relevent. Don't forget you can
> appeal sentance.
It costs too much money to plead not guilty or to appeal only to lose
over some obscure technicality that the prosecution will dream up in
order to save face.
Quite often it is just simply easier to absorb the token punishment
which is given.
The victim walks away feeling not guilt anyway.
Re: War on drugs being won - another sick person facing jail
On Apr 14, 9:21 pm, "Lazarus Cain" <rspeak...@aol . com > wrote:
> On Apr 11, 3:54 am, "King Amdo" <King A...@hotmail . com > wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Apr 10, 7:24 pm, Phil Stovell <p...@stovell.org.uk> wrote:
>
> > > < * w w w .thisiswiltshire.co.uk/news/headlines/display.var.1319135.0...>
>
> > <<<<<snip>>>>
>
> > > Magistrates requested a probation service report following their concerns
> > > over a disabled person's ability to access the loft, the amount of
> > >cannabisdiscovered and the fact that a teenager also lives in the house.
>
> > <<<<snip>>>>
>
> > I find this slightly worrying - definietly should have pleaded not
> > guilty. (all three factors (loft, teenager and quanity) are entirely
> > irrelevent in the real world of normal people rather than nerd, jerk
> > and creep). They (magistrates) seem to be hinting that she is a
> > commerical grower, (so what anyway really) and thus are considering a
> > jail sentance, thus the probation report. (I think)...but as she is
> > charged with cultivation, rather than production, this is something
> > that the CPS themselves don't consider relevent. Don't forget you can
> > appeal sentance.
>
> It costs too much money to plead not guilty or to appeal only to lose
> over some obscure technicality that the prosecution will dream up in
> order to save face.
> Quite often it is just simply easier to absorb the token punishment
> which is given.
> The victim walks away feeling not guilt anyway.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
It costs no more really than pleading guilty in magistrates court, and
not really that much more in crown court and if you get legal aid then
that factor (costs/lawyer expenses) becomes part of the protest (like
in the eco warrior type scene) and if you are not guilty then please
say so. Especially for religious and medicinal cases appeals for money
could be raised nationally etc, and please stop Kowtowing to the
scumabusepower order people. I find the threats from the state
(government) insulting and a provacation..."be a good little **** and
kowtow or we'll threaten you with more severve sentance and increased
costs." (type thing). I mean I though trial before peers was suppost
to be a right? Surely it should be unconstitional for the state/system
to scurrelously threaten the people as they do all the time (and
meanwhile the ciminally insane pyscopath in Downing street order
illagal wars and mass genocide). (yes I know their is no constition in
the UK) Don't play thier game.
RESIST!
Thanks,
Blessings.
On Apr 14, 9:21 pm, "Lazarus Cain" <rspeak...@aol . com > wrote:
> On Apr 11, 3:54 am, "King Amdo" <King A...@hotmail . com > wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Apr 10, 7:24 pm, Phil Stovell <p...@stovell.org.uk> wrote:
>
> > > < * w w w .thisiswiltshire.co.uk/news/headlines/display.var.1319135.0...>
>
> > <<<<<snip>>>>
>
> > > Magistrates requested a probation service report following their concerns
> > > over a disabled person's ability to access the loft, the amount of
> > >cannabisdiscovered and the fact that a teenager also lives in the house.
>
> > <<<<snip>>>>
>
> > I find this slightly worrying - definietly should have pleaded not
> > guilty. (all three factors (loft, teenager and quanity) are entirely
> > irrelevent in the real world of normal people rather than nerd, jerk
> > and creep). They (magistrates) seem to be hinting that she is a
> > commerical grower, (so what anyway really) and thus are considering a
> > jail sentance, thus the probation report. (I think)...but as she is
> > charged with cultivation, rather than production, this is something
> > that the CPS themselves don't consider relevent. Don't forget you can
> > appeal sentance.
>
> It costs too much money to plead not guilty or to appeal only to lose
> over some obscure technicality that the prosecution will dream up in
> order to save face.
> Quite often it is just simply easier to absorb the token punishment
> which is given.
> The victim walks away feeling not guilt anyway.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
It costs no more really than pleading guilty in magistrates court, and
not really that much more in crown court and if you get legal aid then
that factor (costs/lawyer expenses) becomes part of the protest (like
in the eco warrior type scene) and if you are not guilty then please
say so. Especially for religious and medicinal cases appeals for money
could be raised nationally etc, and please stop Kowtowing to the
scumabusepower order people. I find the threats from the state
(government) insulting and a provacation..."be a good little **** and
kowtow or we'll threaten you with more severve sentance and increased
costs." (type thing). I mean I though trial before peers was suppost
to be a right? Surely it should be unconstitional for the state/system
to scurrelously threaten the people as they do all the time (and
meanwhile the ciminally insane pyscopath in Downing street order
illagal wars and mass genocide). (yes I know their is no constition in
the UK) Don't play thier game.
RESIST!
Thanks,
Blessings.
Re: War on drugs being won - another sick person facing jail
On Apr 16, 1:06 am, "King Amdo" <King A...@hotmail . com > wrote:
> On Apr 14, 9:21 pm, "LazarusCain" <rspeak...@aol . com > wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Apr 11, 3:54 am, "King Amdo" <King A...@hotmail . com > wrote:
>
> > > On Apr 10, 7:24 pm, Phil Stovell <p...@stovell.org.uk> wrote:
>
> > > > < * w w w .thisiswiltshire.co.uk/news/headlines/display.var.1319135.0...>
>
> > > <<<<<snip>>>>
>
> > > > Magistrates requested a probation service report following their concerns
> > > > over a disabled person's ability to access the loft, the amount of
> > > >cannabisdiscovered and the fact that a teenager also lives in the house.
>
> > > <<<<snip>>>>
>
> > > I find this slightly worrying - definietly should have pleaded not
> > > guilty. (all three factors (loft, teenager and quanity) are entirely
> > > irrelevent in the real world of normal people rather than nerd, jerk
> > > and creep). They (magistrates) seem to be hinting that she is a
> > > commerical grower, (so what anyway really) and thus are considering a
> > > jail sentance, thus the probation report. (I think)...but as she is
> > > charged with cultivation, rather than production, this is something
> > > that the CPS themselves don't consider relevent. Don't forget you can
> > > appeal sentance.
>
> > It costs too much money to plead not guilty or to appeal only to lose
> > over some obscure technicality that the prosecution will dream up in
> > order to save face.
> > Quite often it is just simply easier to absorb the token punishment
> > which is given.
> > The victim walks away feeling not guilt anyway.- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> It costs no more really than pleading guilty in magistrates court, and
> not really that much more in crown court and if you get legal aid then
> that factor (costs/lawyer expenses) becomes part of the protest (like
> in the eco warrior type scene) and if you are not guilty then please
> say so. Especially for religious and medicinal cases appeals for money
> could be raised nationally etc, and please stop Kowtowing to the
> scumabusepower order people. I find the threats from the state
> (government) insulting and a provacation..."be a good little **** and
> kowtow or we'll threaten you with more severve sentance and increased
> costs." (type thing). I mean I though trial before peers was suppost
> to be a right? Surely it should be unconstitional for the state/system
> to scurrelously threaten the people as they do all the time (and
> meanwhile the ciminally insane pyscopath in Downing street order
> illagal wars and mass genocide). (yes I know their is no constition in
> the UK) Don't play thier game.
>
> RESIST!
>
> Thanks,
>
> Blessings.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
In US, one does not get a public defender for misdemeanor cases
involving marijuana possession ,and the attorney's fees are much
greater than the penalty.
US justice cleverly did this so it is difficul to overturn our
intolerant laws aaginst marijuana.
The employment drug screening is actually another technique put into
place by the Republicans, Nixon, Reagan and Bush, they are the same
gang, to deprive the right of employment to occasioanl users. The
Federal Governemnet has done everythingi its power to make drug
screening almost universal, even though it is ocmonly known alcoholis
a much greater drug proble, and these individauls do not face such
screening techniques, nor shold they, as drug screening for use of
marijuana over the pat severalmonths is not really a m easure of
intoxication.
Additionally, the Federal governemnt overrules state court decsions to
bypass Federal Draconian anti drug laws.
It is interesting that the Federal governement esentially outlaws
allntural pain killers while the pharmaceutical companies eeem to be
unable to come up with viable alternatives to something as natural as
marijuana.
It is known that marijuan suppresses violence as well, but this would
encourage sodiers not to fight for stupid reasons, and the Federal
government can't have that. They need to keep their soldiers hopped up
on adrenalin and brainwashed. It is of no consequence to the Federal
governemnet that this causes severe stress syndromes later on in life
when the soldiers grow old and realize wht they have done and its
effect on their lives.
It is also interesting that marijuana can be used to effectively treat
post traumatic stress.
On Apr 16, 1:06 am, "King Amdo" <King A...@hotmail . com > wrote:
> On Apr 14, 9:21 pm, "LazarusCain" <rspeak...@aol . com > wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Apr 11, 3:54 am, "King Amdo" <King A...@hotmail . com > wrote:
>
> > > On Apr 10, 7:24 pm, Phil Stovell <p...@stovell.org.uk> wrote:
>
> > > > < * w w w .thisiswiltshire.co.uk/news/headlines/display.var.1319135.0...>
>
> > > <<<<<snip>>>>
>
> > > > Magistrates requested a probation service report following their concerns
> > > > over a disabled person's ability to access the loft, the amount of
> > > >cannabisdiscovered and the fact that a teenager also lives in the house.
>
> > > <<<<snip>>>>
>
> > > I find this slightly worrying - definietly should have pleaded not
> > > guilty. (all three factors (loft, teenager and quanity) are entirely
> > > irrelevent in the real world of normal people rather than nerd, jerk
> > > and creep). They (magistrates) seem to be hinting that she is a
> > > commerical grower, (so what anyway really) and thus are considering a
> > > jail sentance, thus the probation report. (I think)...but as she is
> > > charged with cultivation, rather than production, this is something
> > > that the CPS themselves don't consider relevent. Don't forget you can
> > > appeal sentance.
>
> > It costs too much money to plead not guilty or to appeal only to lose
> > over some obscure technicality that the prosecution will dream up in
> > order to save face.
> > Quite often it is just simply easier to absorb the token punishment
> > which is given.
> > The victim walks away feeling not guilt anyway.- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> It costs no more really than pleading guilty in magistrates court, and
> not really that much more in crown court and if you get legal aid then
> that factor (costs/lawyer expenses) becomes part of the protest (like
> in the eco warrior type scene) and if you are not guilty then please
> say so. Especially for religious and medicinal cases appeals for money
> could be raised nationally etc, and please stop Kowtowing to the
> scumabusepower order people. I find the threats from the state
> (government) insulting and a provacation..."be a good little **** and
> kowtow or we'll threaten you with more severve sentance and increased
> costs." (type thing). I mean I though trial before peers was suppost
> to be a right? Surely it should be unconstitional for the state/system
> to scurrelously threaten the people as they do all the time (and
> meanwhile the ciminally insane pyscopath in Downing street order
> illagal wars and mass genocide). (yes I know their is no constition in
> the UK) Don't play thier game.
>
> RESIST!
>
> Thanks,
>
> Blessings.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
In US, one does not get a public defender for misdemeanor cases
involving marijuana possession ,and the attorney's fees are much
greater than the penalty.
US justice cleverly did this so it is difficul to overturn our
intolerant laws aaginst marijuana.
The employment drug screening is actually another technique put into
place by the Republicans, Nixon, Reagan and Bush, they are the same
gang, to deprive the right of employment to occasioanl users. The
Federal Governemnet has done everythingi its power to make drug
screening almost universal, even though it is ocmonly known alcoholis
a much greater drug proble, and these individauls do not face such
screening techniques, nor shold they, as drug screening for use of
marijuana over the pat severalmonths is not really a m easure of
intoxication.
Additionally, the Federal governemnt overrules state court decsions to
bypass Federal Draconian anti drug laws.
It is interesting that the Federal governement esentially outlaws
allntural pain killers while the pharmaceutical companies eeem to be
unable to come up with viable alternatives to something as natural as
marijuana.
It is known that marijuan suppresses violence as well, but this would
encourage sodiers not to fight for stupid reasons, and the Federal
government can't have that. They need to keep their soldiers hopped up
on adrenalin and brainwashed. It is of no consequence to the Federal
governemnet that this causes severe stress syndromes later on in life
when the soldiers grow old and realize wht they have done and its
effect on their lives.
It is also interesting that marijuana can be used to effectively treat
post traumatic stress.
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