Choc bar drugs pair will appeal

Choc bar drugs pair will appeal

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Choc bar drugs pair will appeal

Dec 17 2006

By Robert Weatherall, The Sunday Sun

A disabled woman found guilty of supplying drugs to fellow multiple
sclerosis sufferers said she will appeal against her conviction.

Lezley Gibson has not given up her fight to legally supply thousands of MS
sufferers with the class-C drug, which she and other campaigners claim is
the only effective treatment to alleviate the debilitating condition.

Lezley, 42, of Alston, Cumbria, also says that, following her conviction
last week, she has been left to celebrate Christmas with the fear that she
and her husband Mark - who was also found guilty - will be sent to prison
next year.

She said: "I am still in shock that we were found guilty.

"I thought there would have been at least some of the jury who could see
past the black and white regulations of the law and see we were only
supplying to people in genuine medical need."

Lezley, Mark, also 42, and Marcus Davies, 36, from St Ives in
Cambridgeshire, were convicted of two counts each of conspiring to supply
cannabis at Carlisle Crown Court on Friday.

The trio had distributed by post more than 20,000 chocolate bars, each
containing around 3.5g of the drug, to people in the UK.

Lezley, who was diag- nosed with the condition at 21, said: "Sentencing
has been adjourned until next year.

"The judge said we were in no immediate danger of going to jail, but I'm
not sure what that means.

"If he had ruled it out completely then he should have said so."

Lezley also argues that the judgment will effectively fuel street drug
dealing.

She claims that the thousands of MS sufferers across the UK who she used
to supply will now be forced to source the class-C drug from street
dealers.

She explained: "I used to have to seek drug dealers out in pubs.

"There were times I would be given cannabis that I wouldn't use to polish
my shoes.

"There were other times I handed over money and the dealer just
disappeared.

"This ruling is a step backwards for MS treatment in this country.

"Conventional drugs don't work for a lot of people and I can't think of
any other condition where sufferers are denied medicine.

"You wouldn't deny an asthmatic an inhaler."

And she added: "I will be appealing and my barrister has already started
to work on that."

--
Phil Stovell, South Hampshire, UK

"They said I should not take him to the police, but rather
let him pay a dowry for my goat because he used it as his wife"

Re: Choc bar drugs pair will appeal



Phil Stovell wrote:
>
> < * icnewcastle.icnetwork.co.uk/sundaysun/news/tm_headline=choc-bar-drugs-pair-will-appeal&method=full&objectid=18277069&siteid=50081-name_page.html>
>
> Choc bar drugs pair will appeal
>
> Dec 17 2006
>
> By Robert Weatherall, The Sunday Sun
>
> A disabled woman found guilty of supplying drugs to fellow multiple
> sclerosis sufferers said she will appeal against her conviction.
>
> Lezley Gibson has not given up her fight to legally supply thousands of MS
> sufferers with the class-C drug, which she and other campaigners claim is
> the only effective treatment to alleviate the debilitating condition.
>
> Lezley, 42, of Alston, Cumbria, also says that, following her conviction
> last week, she has been left to celebrate Christmas with the fear that she
> and her husband Mark - who was also found guilty - will be sent to prison
> next year.
>
> She said: "I am still in shock that we were found guilty.
>
> "I thought there would have been at least some of the jury who could see
> past the black and white regulations of the law and see we were only
> supplying to people in genuine medical need."
>
> Lezley, Mark, also 42, and Marcus Davies, 36, from St Ives in
> Cambridgeshire, were convicted of two counts each of conspiring to supply
> cannabis at Carlisle Crown Court on Friday.
>
> The trio had distributed by post more than 20,000 chocolate bars, each
> containing around 3.5g of the drug, to people in the UK.
>
> Lezley, who was diag- nosed with the condition at 21, said: "Sentencing
> has been adjourned until next year.
>
> "The judge said we were in no immediate danger of going to jail, but I'm
> not sure what that means.
>
> "If he had ruled it out completely then he should have said so."
>
> Lezley also argues that the judgment will effectively fuel street drug
> dealing.
>
> She claims that the thousands of MS sufferers across the UK who she used
> to supply will now be forced to source the class-C drug from street
> dealers.
>
> She explained: "I used to have to seek drug dealers out in pubs.
>
> "There were times I would be given cannabis that I wouldn't use to polish
> my shoes.
>
> "There were other times I handed over money and the dealer just
> disappeared.
>
> "This ruling is a step backwards for MS treatment in this country.
>
> "Conventional drugs don't work for a lot of people and I can't think of
> any other condition where sufferers are denied medicine.
>
> "You wouldn't deny an asthmatic an inhaler."
>
> And she added: "I will be appealing and my barrister has already started
> to work on that."
>
> --
> Phil Stovell, South Hampshire, UK
>
> "They said I should not take him to the police, but rather
> let him pay a dowry for my goat because he used it as his wife"

A clear case of a drug dealer, if ever there was one.

Re: Choc bar drugs pair will appeal

On Sun, 17 Dec 2006 11:26:14 +0000, johannes wrote:

> A clear case of a drug dealer, if ever there was one.

Yes, and the law says they should go to jail for 14 years. That'll help
Lezley's MS.

--
Phil Stovell, South Hampshire, UK

"They said I should not take him to the police, but rather
let him pay a dowry for my goat because he used it as his wife"

Re: Choc bar drugs pair will appeal

Phil Stovell wrote:
> On Sun, 17 Dec 2006 11:26:14 +0000, johannes wrote:
>
>> A clear case of a drug dealer, if ever there was one.
>
> Yes, and the law says they should go to jail for 14 years. That'll help
> Lezley's MS.
>
The law says they *can* be imprisoned for 14 years.
Let's wait and see what the sentence is.

Re: Choc bar drugs pair will appeal

On Sun, 17 Dec 2006 19:11:08 +0000, anthonyberet wrote:

> Phil Stovell wrote:
>> On Sun, 17 Dec 2006 11:26:14 +0000, johannes wrote:
>>
>>> A clear case of a drug dealer, if ever there was one.
>>
>> Yes, and the law says they should go to jail for 14 years. That'll help
>> Lezley's MS.
>>
> The law says they *can* be imprisoned for 14 years. Let's wait and see
> what the sentence is.

One of the reports I've seen said the judge said they wouldn't get a
custodial.

--
Phil Stovell, South Hampshire, UK

"They said I should not take him to the police, but rather
let him pay a dowry for my goat because he used it as his wife"

Re: Choc bar drugs pair will appeal

On Sun, 17 Dec 2006 14:11:09 +0000, Phil Stovell <phil@stovell.org.uk>
wrote:

>On Sun, 17 Dec 2006 11:26:14 +0000, johannes wrote:
>
>> A clear case of a drug dealer, if ever there was one.
>
>Yes, and the law says they should go to jail for 14 years.

No it doesn't.

It says that the *maximum* sentence they *can* be given is 14 years.

In this case, the judge has apparently said they are in no immediate
danger of jail, which almost certainly means a suspended sentence.
--
Alex Heney, Global Villager
Committees keep minutes and lose hours.
To reply by email, my address is alexATheneyDOTplusDOTcom

Re: Choc bar drugs pair will appeal

On Sun, 17 Dec 2006 11:26:14 GMT,johannes, wrote

>
>
> Phil Stovell wrote:
> >
> >
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> >
> > Choc bar drugs pair will appeal
> >
> > Dec 17 2006
> >
> > By Robert Weatherall, The Sunday Sun
> >
> > A disabled woman found guilty of supplying drugs to fellow multiple
> > sclerosis sufferers said she will appeal against her conviction.
> >
> > Lezley Gibson has not given up her fight to legally supply thousands of MS
> > sufferers with the class-C drug, which she and other campaigners claim is
> > the only effective treatment to alleviate the debilitating condition.
> >
> > Lezley, 42, of Alston, Cumbria, also says that, following her conviction
> > last week, she has been left to celebrate Christmas with the fear that she
> > and her husband Mark - who was also found guilty - will be sent to prison
> > next year.
> >
> > She said: "I am still in shock that we were found guilty.
> >
> > "I thought there would have been at least some of the jury who could see
> > past the black and white regulations of the law and see we were only
> > supplying to people in genuine medical need."
> >
> > Lezley, Mark, also 42, and Marcus Davies, 36, from St Ives in
> > Cambridgeshire, were convicted of two counts each of conspiring to supply
> > cannabis at Carlisle Crown Court on Friday.
> >
> > The trio had distributed by post more than 20,000 chocolate bars, each
> > containing around 3.5g of the drug, to people in the UK.
> >
> > Lezley, who was diag- nosed with the condition at 21, said: "Sentencing
> > has been adjourned until next year.
> >
> > "The judge said we were in no immediate danger of going to jail, but I'm
> > not sure what that means.
> >
> > "If he had ruled it out completely then he should have said so."
> >
> > Lezley also argues that the judgment will effectively fuel street drug
> > dealing.
> >
> > She claims that the thousands of MS sufferers across the UK who she used
> > to supply will now be forced to source the class-C drug from street
> > dealers.
> >
> > She explained: "I used to have to seek drug dealers out in pubs.
> >
> > "There were times I would be given cannabis that I wouldn't use to polish
> > my shoes.
> >
> > "There were other times I handed over money and the dealer just
> > disappeared.
> >
> > "This ruling is a step backwards for MS treatment in this country.
> >
> > "Conventional drugs don't work for a lot of people and I can't think of
> > any other condition where sufferers are denied medicine.
> >
> > "You wouldn't deny an asthmatic an inhaler."
> >
> > And she added: "I will be appealing and my barrister has already started
> > to work on that."
> >
> > --
> > Phil Stovell, South Hampshire, UK
> >
> > "They said I should not take him to the police, but rather
> > let him pay a dowry for my goat because he used it as his wife"
>
> A clear case of a drug dealer, if ever there was one.

So they dealt some drugs in a non-profit way, should Smith, Kline
and French be locked up or Pfiser or Squibb et al? All these ethical
drug companies deal far more deadly drugs than an eighth of an ounce
of cannabis in a choclate bar.

Now if it was milk chocolate I might be willing to come down against
them. (NOT!)

later
bliss -- C O C O A Powered... (at california dot com)

--
bobbie sellers - a retired nurse in San Francisco

"It is by will alone I set my mind in motion.
It is by the beans of cocoa that the thoughts acquire speed,
the thighs acquire girth, the girth become a warning.
It is by theobromine alone I set my mind in motion."
--from Someone else's Dune spoof ripped to my taste.

Re: Choc bar drugs pair will appeal


johannes wrote:
> Phil Stovell wrote:
> >
> > < * icnewcastle.icnetwork.co.uk/sundaysun/news/tm_headline=choc-bar-drugs-pair-will-appeal&method=full&objectid=18277069&siteid=50081-name_page.html>
> >
> > Choc bar drugs pair will appeal
> >
> > Dec 17 2006
> >
> > By Robert Weatherall, The Sunday Sun
> >
> > A disabled woman found guilty of supplying drugs to fellow multiple
> > sclerosis sufferers said she will appeal against her conviction.
> >
> > Lezley Gibson has not given up her fight to legally supply thousands of MS
> > sufferers with the class-C drug, which she and other campaigners claim is
> > the only effective treatment to alleviate the debilitating condition.
> >
> > Lezley, 42, of Alston, Cumbria, also says that, following her conviction
> > last week, she has been left to celebrate Christmas with the fear that she
> > and her husband Mark - who was also found guilty - will be sent to prison
> > next year.
> >
> > She said: "I am still in shock that we were found guilty.
> >
> > "I thought there would have been at least some of the jury who could see
> > past the black and white regulations of the law and see we were only
> > supplying to people in genuine medical need."
> >
> > Lezley, Mark, also 42, and Marcus Davies, 36, from St Ives in
> > Cambridgeshire, were convicted of two counts each of conspiring to supply
> > cannabis at Carlisle Crown Court on Friday.
> >
> > The trio had distributed by post more than 20,000 chocolate bars, each
> > containing around 3.5g of the drug, to people in the UK.
> >
> > Lezley, who was diag- nosed with the condition at 21, said: "Sentencing
> > has been adjourned until next year.
> >
> > "The judge said we were in no immediate danger of going to jail, but I'm
> > not sure what that means.
> >
> > "If he had ruled it out completely then he should have said so."
> >
> > Lezley also argues that the judgment will effectively fuel street drug
> > dealing.
> >
> > She claims that the thousands of MS sufferers across the UK who she used
> > to supply will now be forced to source the class-C drug from street
> > dealers.
> >
> > She explained: "I used to have to seek drug dealers out in pubs.
> >
> > "There were times I would be given cannabis that I wouldn't use to polish
> > my shoes.
> >
> > "There were other times I handed over money and the dealer just
> > disappeared.
> >
> > "This ruling is a step backwards for MS treatment in this country.
> >
> > "Conventional drugs don't work for a lot of people and I can't think of
> > any other condition where sufferers are denied medicine.
> >
> > "You wouldn't deny an asthmatic an inhaler."
> >
> > And she added: "I will be appealing and my barrister has already started
> > to work on that."
> >
> > --
> > Phil Stovell, South Hampshire, UK
> >
> > "They said I should not take him to the police, but rather
> > let him pay a dowry for my goat because he used it as his wife"
>
> A clear case of a drug dealer, if ever there was one.

A liquor store selling booze... now there's a true drug dealer... and
the drug it deals is lethal and addictive, unlike cannabis.

Re: Choc bar drugs pair will appeal

Phil Stovell wrote:
> < * icnewcastle.icnetwork.co.uk/sundaysun/news/tm_headline=choc-bar-drugs-pair-will-appeal&method=full&objectid=18277069&siteid=50081-name_page.html>
>
> Choc bar drugs pair will appeal
>
> Dec 17 2006
>
> By Robert Weatherall, The Sunday Sun
>
> A disabled woman found guilty of supplying drugs to fellow multiple
> sclerosis sufferers said she will appeal against her conviction.
>
> Lezley Gibson has not given up her fight to legally supply thousands of MS
> sufferers with the class-C drug, which she and other campaigners claim is
> the only effective treatment to alleviate the debilitating condition.
>
> Lezley, 42, of Alston, Cumbria, also says that, following her conviction
> last week, she has been left to celebrate Christmas with the fear that she
> and her husband Mark - who was also found guilty - will be sent to prison
> next year.
>
> She said: "I am still in shock that we were found guilty.
>
> "I thought there would have been at least some of the jury who could see
> past the black and white regulations of the law and see we were only
> supplying to people in genuine medical need."
>
> Lezley, Mark, also 42, and Marcus Davies, 36, from St Ives in
> Cambridgeshire, were convicted of two counts each of conspiring to supply
> cannabis at Carlisle Crown Court on Friday.
>
> The trio had distributed by post more than 20,000 chocolate bars, each
> containing around 3.5g of the drug, to people in the UK.
>
> Lezley, who was diag- nosed with the condition at 21, said: "Sentencing
> has been adjourned until next year.
>
> "The judge said we were in no immediate danger of going to jail, but I'm
> not sure what that means.
>
> "If he had ruled it out completely then he should have said so."
>
> Lezley also argues that the judgment will effectively fuel street drug
> dealing.
>
> She claims that the thousands of MS sufferers across the UK who she used
> to supply will now be forced to source the class-C drug from street
> dealers.
>
> She explained: "I used to have to seek drug dealers out in pubs.
>
> "There were times I would be given cannabis that I wouldn't use to polish
> my shoes.
>
> "There were other times I handed over money and the dealer just
> disappeared.
>
> "This ruling is a step backwards for MS treatment in this country.
>
> "Conventional drugs don't work for a lot of people and I can't think of
> any other condition where sufferers are denied medicine.
>
> "You wouldn't deny an asthmatic an inhaler."
>
> And she added: "I will be appealing and my barrister has already started
> to work on that."
>

Was she profiting from this little venture?

Re: Choc bar drugs pair will appeal


"Marvin" <kilauea3@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
news:qNadnVhePOUbrBjYnZ2dnUVZ8sHinZ2d@bt . com ...
> Phil Stovell wrote:
>> < * icnewcastle.icnetwork.co.uk/sundaysun/news/tm_headline=choc-bar-drugs-pair-will-appeal&method=full&objectid=18277069&siteid=50081-name_page.html>
>>
>> Choc bar drugs pair will appeal
>>
>> Dec 17 2006
>>
>> By Robert Weatherall, The Sunday Sun
>>
>> A disabled woman found guilty of supplying drugs to fellow multiple
>> sclerosis sufferers said she will appeal against her conviction.
>>
>> Lezley Gibson has not given up her fight to legally supply thousands of
>> MS
>> sufferers with the class-C drug, which she and other campaigners claim is
>> the only effective treatment to alleviate the debilitating condition.
>>
>> Lezley, 42, of Alston, Cumbria, also says that, following her conviction
>> last week, she has been left to celebrate Christmas with the fear that
>> she
>> and her husband Mark - who was also found guilty - will be sent to prison
>> next year.
>>
>> She said: "I am still in shock that we were found guilty.
>>
>> "I thought there would have been at least some of the jury who could see
>> past the black and white regulations of the law and see we were only
>> supplying to people in genuine medical need."
>>
>> Lezley, Mark, also 42, and Marcus Davies, 36, from St Ives in
>> Cambridgeshire, were convicted of two counts each of conspiring to supply
>> cannabis at Carlisle Crown Court on Friday.
>>
>> The trio had distributed by post more than 20,000 chocolate bars, each
>> containing around 3.5g of the drug, to people in the UK.
>>
>> Lezley, who was diag- nosed with the condition at 21, said: "Sentencing
>> has been adjourned until next year.
>>
>> "The judge said we were in no immediate danger of going to jail, but I'm
>> not sure what that means.
>>
>> "If he had ruled it out completely then he should have said so."
>>
>> Lezley also argues that the judgment will effectively fuel street drug
>> dealing.
>>
>> She claims that the thousands of MS sufferers across the UK who she used
>> to supply will now be forced to source the class-C drug from street
>> dealers.
>>
>> She explained: "I used to have to seek drug dealers out in pubs.
>>
>> "There were times I would be given cannabis that I wouldn't use to polish
>> my shoes.
>>
>> "There were other times I handed over money and the dealer just
>> disappeared.
>>
>> "This ruling is a step backwards for MS treatment in this country.
>>
>> "Conventional drugs don't work for a lot of people and I can't think of
>> any other condition where sufferers are denied medicine.
>>
>> "You wouldn't deny an asthmatic an inhaler."
>>
>> And she added: "I will be appealing and my barrister has already started
>> to work on that."
>>
>
> Was she profiting from this little venture?

Does operating at a loss negate all other obligations?

Re: Choc bar drugs pair will appeal



mike carley wrote:
>
> "Marvin" <kilauea3@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:qNadnVhePOUbrBjYnZ2dnUVZ8sHinZ2d@bt . com ...
> > Phil Stovell wrote:
> >> < * icnewcastle.icnetwork.co.uk/sundaysun/news/tm headline=choc-bar-drugs-pair-will-appeal&method=full&objectid=18277069&siteid=50081-name page.html>
> >>
> >> Choc bar drugs pair will appeal
> >>
> >> Dec 17 2006
> >>
> >> By Robert Weatherall, The Sunday Sun
> >>
> >> A disabled woman found guilty of supplying drugs to fellow multiple
> >> sclerosis sufferers said she will appeal against her conviction.
> >>
> >> Lezley Gibson has not given up her fight to legally supply thousands of
> >> MS
> >> sufferers with the class-C drug, which she and other campaigners claim is
> >> the only effective treatment to alleviate the debilitating condition.
> >>
> >> Lezley, 42, of Alston, Cumbria, also says that, following her conviction
> >> last week, she has been left to celebrate Christmas with the fear that
> >> she
> >> and her husband Mark - who was also found guilty - will be sent to prison
> >> next year.
> >>
> >> She said: "I am still in shock that we were found guilty.
> >>
> >> "I thought there would have been at least some of the jury who could see
> >> past the black and white regulations of the law and see we were only
> >> supplying to people in genuine medical need."
> >>
> >> Lezley, Mark, also 42, and Marcus Davies, 36, from St Ives in
> >> Cambridgeshire, were convicted of two counts each of conspiring to supply
> >> cannabis at Carlisle Crown Court on Friday.
> >>
> >> The trio had distributed by post more than 20,000 chocolate bars, each
> >> containing around 3.5g of the drug, to people in the UK.
> >>
> >> Lezley, who was diag- nosed with the condition at 21, said: "Sentencing
> >> has been adjourned until next year.
> >>
> >> "The judge said we were in no immediate danger of going to jail, but I'm
> >> not sure what that means.
> >>
> >> "If he had ruled it out completely then he should have said so."
> >>
> >> Lezley also argues that the judgment will effectively fuel street drug
> >> dealing.
> >>
> >> She claims that the thousands of MS sufferers across the UK who she used
> >> to supply will now be forced to source the class-C drug from street
> >> dealers.
> >>
> >> She explained: "I used to have to seek drug dealers out in pubs.
> >>
> >> "There were times I would be given cannabis that I wouldn't use to polish
> >> my shoes.
> >>
> >> "There were other times I handed over money and the dealer just
> >> disappeared.
> >>
> >> "This ruling is a step backwards for MS treatment in this country.
> >>
> >> "Conventional drugs don't work for a lot of people and I can't think of
> >> any other condition where sufferers are denied medicine.
> >>
> >> "You wouldn't deny an asthmatic an inhaler."
> >>
> >> And she added: "I will be appealing and my barrister has already started
> >> to work on that."
> >>
> >
> > Was she profiting from this little venture?
>
> Does operating at a loss negate all other obligations?

Probably not, but we're talking 70Kg of about ~£10/gr

Re: Choc bar drugs pair will appeal


"johannes" <johs@sinospamzefitter . com > wrote in message
news:45853997.65DFD92F@sinospamzefitter . com ...
>
> Probably not, but we're talking 70Kg of about ~£10/gr

That'll be wholesale prices no doubt?
Skunk or green sells for about £130/ounce in and around Worcester.
The cops love frosty mornings!
They sit in their cars overlooking the towns and villages looking for frost
free roofs.
Then they check if the houses have received grants for loft insulation.
If they have it's a pound to a pinch of shit they'll do a raid:-))
HTH:-))

Insulate inside the roof not just the floor of the loft,should knock down
the heating bills as well:-))

Re: Choc bar drugs pair will appeal

On Sun, 17 Dec 2006 12:51:38 GMT, "jb" <babydriver3@postmaster.co.uk>
wrote:

>
>"johannes" <johs@sinospamzefitter . com > wrote in message
>news:45853997.65DFD92F@sinospamzefitter . com ...
>>
>> Probably not, but we're talking 70Kg of about ~£10/gr
>
>That'll be wholesale prices no doubt?
>Skunk or green sells for about £130/ounce in and around Worcester.

Forgotten the conversion factor?

£10/gr is about £280/oz.

--
Alex Heney, Global Villager
It is fatal to live too long.
To reply by email, my address is alexATheneyDOTplusDOTcom

Re: Choc bar drugs pair will appeal

On Sun, 17 Dec 2006 12:38:27 GMT, johannes <johs@sinospamzefitter . com >
wrote:
>mike carley wrote:
>>
>> "Marvin" <kilauea3@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
>> news:qNadnVhePOUbrBjYnZ2dnUVZ8sHinZ2d@bt . com ...
>> > Phil Stovell wrote:
>> >> < * icnewcastle.icnetwork.co.uk/sundaysun/news/tm headline=choc-bar-drugs-pair-will-appeal&method=full&objectid=18277069&siteid=50081-name page.html>
>> >>
>> >> Choc bar drugs pair will appeal
>> >>
>> >> Dec 17 2006
>> >>
>> >> By Robert Weatherall, The Sunday Sun
>> >>
>> >> A disabled woman found guilty of supplying drugs to fellow multiple
>> >> sclerosis sufferers said she will appeal against her conviction.
>> >>
>> >> Lezley Gibson has not given up her fight to legally supply thousands of
>> >> MS
>> >> sufferers with the class-C drug, which she and other campaigners claim is
>> >> the only effective treatment to alleviate the debilitating condition.
>> >>
>> >> Lezley, 42, of Alston, Cumbria, also says that, following her conviction
>> >> last week, she has been left to celebrate Christmas with the fear that
>> >> she
>> >> and her husband Mark - who was also found guilty - will be sent to prison
>> >> next year.
>> >>
>> >> She said: "I am still in shock that we were found guilty.
>> >>
>> >> "I thought there would have been at least some of the jury who could see
>> >> past the black and white regulations of the law and see we were only
>> >> supplying to people in genuine medical need."
>> >>
>> >> Lezley, Mark, also 42, and Marcus Davies, 36, from St Ives in
>> >> Cambridgeshire, were convicted of two counts each of conspiring to supply
>> >> cannabis at Carlisle Crown Court on Friday.
>> >>
>> >> The trio had distributed by post more than 20,000 chocolate bars, each
>> >> containing around 3.5g of the drug, to people in the UK.
>> >>
>> >> Lezley, who was diag- nosed with the condition at 21, said: "Sentencing
>> >> has been adjourned until next year.
>> >>
>> >> "The judge said we were in no immediate danger of going to jail, but I'm
>> >> not sure what that means.
>> >>
>> >> "If he had ruled it out completely then he should have said so."
>> >>
>> >> Lezley also argues that the judgment will effectively fuel street drug
>> >> dealing.
>> >>
>> >> She claims that the thousands of MS sufferers across the UK who she used
>> >> to supply will now be forced to source the class-C drug from street
>> >> dealers.
>> >>
>> >> She explained: "I used to have to seek drug dealers out in pubs.
>> >>
>> >> "There were times I would be given cannabis that I wouldn't use to polish
>> >> my shoes.
>> >>
>> >> "There were other times I handed over money and the dealer just
>> >> disappeared.
>> >>
>> >> "This ruling is a step backwards for MS treatment in this country.
>> >>
>> >> "Conventional drugs don't work for a lot of people and I can't think of
>> >> any other condition where sufferers are denied medicine.
>> >>
>> >> "You wouldn't deny an asthmatic an inhaler."
>> >>
>> >> And she added: "I will be appealing and my barrister has already started
>> >> to work on that."
>> >>
>> >
>> > Was she profiting from this little venture?
>>
>> Does operating at a loss negate all other obligations?
>
>Probably not, but we're talking 70Kg of about ~£10/gr

Please get your facts straight before posting - wholesale cost of
cannabis is approx £3/g. Street price is approx £5.70/g. Like the
majority of the population you have been mislead by the media and
police. I don't hold this against you or anybody else in your
position. For someone who has presumably never been involved in the
black market a level of naivety on your part is completely inevitable.

The entire operation was intended to operate at "a loss" or not for
profit - however you choose to define it. It was in all senses of the
word a charitable organisation. The three people behind it did it
completely selflessly. They continued to operate for such a long
period due to donations of cannabis, chocolate etc. It was not a
traditional drug dealing operation.

In the strict sense of the law it was illegal and nobody is arguing
that fact. It is the moral issues which are relevant here.

Please answer honestly Johannes, do you really think that MS sufferers
should not be given access to cannabis?

Would you as a reasonable and compassionate human being prefer to see
others suffering just so that an arbitrary law can be upheld?

The physical pain and mental anguish that MS sufferers endure is
something the majority of us cannot even get close to imagining, nor
would we want to.

I know it must be difficult but try and think how you'd feel if you
were an MS sufferer and you had spent years taking numerous
prescription drugs which either don't work or if they do the side
effects are so horrendous they negate the benefits.

Now, imagine that somebody offered you help in the form of a drug
which wasn't legal but increased your quality of life considerably.
Would you refuse merely on the basis that it is illegal? Would you put
yourself through completely unnecessary pain just to keep the
government happy?

I'm not expecting an answer to that question because deep down YOU
know exactly what you'd do. You'd take the cannabis because it is the
ONLY option left.

Please don't take this as a personal insult Johannes, I read a lot of
your posts and you do talk a lot of sense. I just feel you are so far
off the mark here it is ridiculous. I'm eagerly awaiting a reply, am
truly interested.

All the best
Tom
--
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Re: Choc bar drugs pair will appeal

mike carley wrote:
> "Marvin" <kilauea3@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:qNadnVhePOUbrBjYnZ2dnUVZ8sHinZ2d@bt . com ...
>> Phil Stovell wrote:
>>> < * icnewcastle.icnetwork.co.uk/sundaysun/news/tm headline=choc-bar-drugs-pair-will-appeal&method=full&objectid=18277069&siteid=50081-name page.html>
>>>
>>> Choc bar drugs pair will appeal
>>>
>>> Dec 17 2006
>>>
>>> By Robert Weatherall, The Sunday Sun
>>>
>>> A disabled woman found guilty of supplying drugs to fellow multiple
>>> sclerosis sufferers said she will appeal against her conviction.
>>>
>>> Lezley Gibson has not given up her fight to legally supply thousands of
>>> MS
>>> sufferers with the class-C drug, which she and other campaigners claim is
>>> the only effective treatment to alleviate the debilitating condition.
>>>
>>> Lezley, 42, of Alston, Cumbria, also says that, following her conviction
>>> last week, she has been left to celebrate Christmas with the fear that
>>> she
>>> and her husband Mark - who was also found guilty - will be sent to prison
>>> next year.
>>>
>>> She said: "I am still in shock that we were found guilty.
>>>
>>> "I thought there would have been at least some of the jury who could see
>>> past the black and white regulations of the law and see we were only
>>> supplying to people in genuine medical need."
>>>
>>> Lezley, Mark, also 42, and Marcus Davies, 36, from St Ives in
>>> Cambridgeshire, were convicted of two counts each of conspiring to supply
>>> cannabis at Carlisle Crown Court on Friday.
>>>
>>> The trio had distributed by post more than 20,000 chocolate bars, each
>>> containing around 3.5g of the drug, to people in the UK.
>>>
>>> Lezley, who was diag- nosed with the condition at 21, said: "Sentencing
>>> has been adjourned until next year.
>>>
>>> "The judge said we were in no immediate danger of going to jail, but I'm
>>> not sure what that means.
>>>
>>> "If he had ruled it out completely then he should have said so."
>>>
>>> Lezley also argues that the judgment will effectively fuel street drug
>>> dealing.
>>>
>>> She claims that the thousands of MS sufferers across the UK who she used
>>> to supply will now be forced to source the class-C drug from street
>>> dealers.
>>>
>>> She explained: "I used to have to seek drug dealers out in pubs.
>>>
>>> "There were times I would be given cannabis that I wouldn't use to polish
>>> my shoes.
>>>
>>> "There were other times I handed over money and the dealer just
>>> disappeared.
>>>
>>> "This ruling is a step backwards for MS treatment in this country.
>>>
>>> "Conventional drugs don't work for a lot of people and I can't think of
>>> any other condition where sufferers are denied medicine.
>>>
>>> "You wouldn't deny an asthmatic an inhaler."
>>>
>>> And she added: "I will be appealing and my barrister has already started
>>> to work on that."
>>>
>> Was she profiting from this little venture?
>
> Does operating at a loss negate all other obligations?

Not all obligations but it would put her case in a slightly better light.