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Lancet: Cannabis use and risk of psychotic or affective mental health outcomes: a systematic review

Reply from: Cycle Surfer
Date: 11 Aug 2007, 20:07
Re: Lancet: Cannabis use and risk of psychotic or affective mental health outcomes: a systematic rev

Usually the "Trick" they use in these "studies" is they inject massive
amounts of THC, equivilent to smoking a ton every day.

Remember, these "studies" are started with a pre-defined objective.
Prove HEMP / cannabis causes
"reefer madness"

MARIJUANA MAY BE THE ELIXER OF LIFE. TREATMENT FOR DEPRESSION.
MAKES
YOU SMARTER. MARIJUANA CURES ALZHIEMRS.

A study by University of Saskatchewan researchers suggests beneficial
aspects of smoking marijuana at least among rats, who appear to have
sprouted new brain cells and besides benefiting from reduced
depression and anxiety.
The study's results appearing in the 'Journal of Clinical
Investigation' have actually given a fillip to the traditional and
mythological view that associates the addictive weed in some ways
with
immortality.


THIS IS VERY OLD NEWS / BEEN KNOWN FOR 40 + YEARS BUT A NEW STUDY.


The Canadian researchers led by Xia Zhang, suggested that the illicit
substance marijuana actually may promote new brain cells in region of
the brain called the hippocampus that is associated with memory. They
concluded that marijuana was possibly "the only illicit drug whose
capacity to produce increased neurons is positively correlated with
its (anti-anxiety) and anti-depressant-like effects".


For the study, the researchers injected laboratory rats two times
everyday for 10 days with HU210, a synthetic cannabinoid chemical
(obtained from marijuana) and evaluated them against a normal group.
The rats that underwent the HU210 injections developed new nerve
cells
in the brain's hippocampus dentate gyrus region of the brain that
facilitates memory development. The injections also appeared to
counter depression and anxiety, but could not be held as 100 percent
akin to smoking marijuana, which the researchers felt would require
additional studies.


Zhang suggested that the study did indicate that marijuana could have
its medical uses particularly "for the treatment of anxiety and
depression". But these results are unlikely to buy the favor with the
US administration or the possibility of legalization on medical
grounds. In fact only recently the US Supreme Court ruled against
marijuana growth or possession for medical reasons.


Unlike most addictive drugs that are known to inhibit the development
of new neurons, causing loss of memory and impairing learning on
chronic use, it appears that marijuana or ganja may actually be the
mythological "elixir of eternal life" that Indian gods churned from
the oceans. A sharp contrast from ordinary addictive substances, the
researchers suggested that marijuana's neurogenetic properties may
actually be unique given that the rats showed some correlation
between
their cannabinoid treatments, the increased nerve genesis and their
altered stress or anxiety levels.


Marijuana that has traditionally been used by many cultures over
centuries "for medical and recreational purpose", as the researchers
suggest appears to be able to modulate pain, nausea, vomiting,
epilepsy, stroke, cerebral trauma and variety of other disorders both
for humans and animals alike. But it maybe several more studies
before
the mysterious benefits of marijuana that currently stand shrouded in
tradition and mythology, become accepted by the modern scientific
world.


Complete Title: Marijuana May Live Up To Be The Elixir of Life for
Brain Cells


Reply from: Ollie Clark
Date: 13 Aug 2007, 15:32
Re: Lancet: Cannabis use and risk of psychotic or affective mental health outcomes: a systematic rev

Cycle Surfer wrote:
>
> "See, in my line of work you got to keep repeating things over and
> over and over again for the truth to sink in, to kind of catapult the
> propaganda." George Bush 2005
>
> Why ARE PHARMACY / DRUG COMPANIES SO INTERESTED IN PROVING CANNABIS
> IS BAD FOR YOU?
> WHY ARE THEY SPENDING TENS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS WITH THESE RIGGED
> STUDIES AND ADVERTISING IT?
>
> CANNABIS CURES CANCER / A BILLION DOLLAR INDUSTRY FOR THEM
> CANNABIS CURES ALZHEIMERS , AGAIN BIG MONEY. CANNABIS IS THE BEST
> TREATMENT FOR MANY AILMENTS , FROM GLAUCOMA TO NEUROPATHY.

Much as I think the continued demonisation of cannabis is ridiculous
and unscientific, that doesn't give the other side of the fence license
to do the same. The science that proves cannabis "cures" cancer or
alzheimers is almost as flaky as the science which proves cannabis causes
schizophrenia. There have been some studies (one in the case of alzhemiers)
which show it may be beneficial but by no means is it certain.

That doesn't take away the fact that it's been proved that it helps with
the symptoms of MS, improves appetite, reduces nausea etc. etc. Cannabis
/is/ beneficial but it would be best to stick to the proven benefits when
discussing them.

Reply from: bobbie sellers
Date: 13 Aug 2007, 18:25
Re: Lancet: Cannabis use and risk of psychotic or affective mental health outcomes: a systematic rev

On Mon, 13 Aug 2007 13:32:18 +0000 (UTC),Ollie Clark, wrote

> Cycle Surfer wrote:
> >
> > "See, in my line of work you got to keep repeating things over and
> > over and over again for the truth to sink in, to kind of catapult the
> > propaganda." George Bush 2005
> >
> > Why ARE PHARMACY / DRUG COMPANIES SO INTERESTED IN PROVING CANNABIS
> > IS BAD FOR YOU?
> > WHY ARE THEY SPENDING TENS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS WITH THESE RIGGED
> > STUDIES AND ADVERTISING IT?
> >
> > CANNABIS CURES CANCER / A BILLION DOLLAR INDUSTRY FOR THEM
> > CANNABIS CURES ALZHEIMERS , AGAIN BIG MONEY. CANNABIS IS THE BEST
> > TREATMENT FOR MANY AILMENTS , FROM GLAUCOMA TO NEUROPATHY.
>
> Much as I think the continued demonisation of cannabis is ridiculous
> and unscientific, that doesn't give the other side of the fence license
> to do the same. The science that proves cannabis "cures" cancer or
> alzheimers is almost as flaky as the science which proves cannabis
> causes schizophrenia. There have been some studies (one in the case of
> alzhemiers) which show it may be beneficial but by no means is it
> certain.
>
> That doesn't take away the fact that it's been proved that it helps with
> the symptoms of MS, improves appetite, reduces nausea etc. etc.
> Cannabis /is/ beneficial but it would be best to stick to the proven
> benefits when discussing them.

Well we do have a couple of known cannabis patients including
Angel Raich and Mr.Cubby whose cancers are controlled by the cannabis
they use. Cubby had lost about 50 (or was it 15 lbs) in prison where
he was given Marinol® as a substitute for cannabis.

later
bliss -- C O C O A Powered... (at california dot com)

--
bobbie sellers - a retired nurse in San Francisco

"It is by will alone I set my mind in motion.
It is by the beans of cocoa that the thoughts acquire speed,
the thighs acquire girth, the girth become a warning.
It is by theobromine alone I set my mind in motion."
--from Someone else's Dune spoof ripped to my taste.


Reply from: Ollie Clark
Date: 13 Aug 2007, 17:59
Re: Lancet: Cannabis use and risk of psychotic or affective mental health outcomes: a systematic rev

bobbie sellers wrote:
> On Mon, 13 Aug 2007 13:32:18 +0000 (UTC),Ollie Clark, wrote
>
>> Cycle Surfer wrote:
>> >
>> > "See, in my line of work you got to keep repeating things over and
>> > over and over again for the truth to sink in, to kind of catapult the
>> > propaganda." George Bush 2005
>> >
>> > Why ARE PHARMACY / DRUG COMPANIES SO INTERESTED IN PROVING CANNABIS
>> > IS BAD FOR YOU?
>> > WHY ARE THEY SPENDING TENS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS WITH THESE RIGGED
>> > STUDIES AND ADVERTISING IT?
>> >
>> > CANNABIS CURES CANCER / A BILLION DOLLAR INDUSTRY FOR THEM
>> > CANNABIS CURES ALZHEIMERS , AGAIN BIG MONEY. CANNABIS IS THE BEST
>> > TREATMENT FOR MANY AILMENTS , FROM GLAUCOMA TO NEUROPATHY.
>>
>> Much as I think the continued demonisation of cannabis is ridiculous
>> and unscientific, that doesn't give the other side of the fence license
>> to do the same. The science that proves cannabis "cures" cancer or
>> alzheimers is almost as flaky as the science which proves cannabis
>> causes schizophrenia. There have been some studies (one in the case of
>> alzhemiers) which show it may be beneficial but by no means is it
>> certain.
>>
>> That doesn't take away the fact that it's been proved that it helps with
>> the symptoms of MS, improves appetite, reduces nausea etc. etc.
>> Cannabis /is/ beneficial but it would be best to stick to the proven
>> benefits when discussing them.
>
> Well we do have a couple of known cannabis patients including
> Angel Raich and Mr.Cubby whose cancers are controlled by the cannabis
> they use. Cubby had lost about 50 (or was it 15 lbs) in prison where
> he was given Marinol® as a substitute for cannabis..

That's only anecdotal though, that's the same as "I knew someone who went
mad and smoked marijuana so marijuana makes you go mad". It strikes me
that medical marijuana dispensaries are uniquely placed to perform wide
ranging scientific studies on cannabis...

It can certainly be used to increase appetite and reduce nausia in cancer
patients but studies have only hinted that it might actually help prevent
or cure the cancer itself. The Tashkin study was very interesting though
and should have led to further research.

Reply from: John H.
Date: 14 Aug 2007, 06:20
Re: Lancet: Cannabis use and risk of psychotic or affective mental health outcomes: a systematic rev

You're right bobbie, better to stick to what is proven. Now if only the
medical profession would do the same.

I've accumulated some research on cannabinoids and it is fair to say that
therein exists much unexplored potential. If governments put as much
research dollars into cannabinoids as they do towards the drug war then it
is very plausible that a number of therapeutic uses would have been
established long ago.

"bobbie sellers" <blissNO@SPAMcalifornia,com > wrote in message
news:108165057471010.NC-1.56.blissNO@News.Individual,net ...
> On Mon, 13 Aug 2007 13:32:18 +0000 (UTC),Ollie Clark, wrote
>
> > Cycle Surfer wrote:
> > >
> > > "See, in my line of work you got to keep repeating things over and
> > > over and over again for the truth to sink in, to kind of catapult the
> > > propaganda." George Bush 2005
> > >
> > > Why ARE PHARMACY / DRUG COMPANIES SO INTERESTED IN PROVING CANNABIS
> > > IS BAD FOR YOU?
> > > WHY ARE THEY SPENDING TENS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS WITH THESE RIGGED
> > > STUDIES AND ADVERTISING IT?
> > >
> > > CANNABIS CURES CANCER / A BILLION DOLLAR INDUSTRY FOR THEM
> > > CANNABIS CURES ALZHEIMERS , AGAIN BIG MONEY. CANNABIS IS THE BEST
> > > TREATMENT FOR MANY AILMENTS , FROM GLAUCOMA TO NEUROPATHY.
> >
> > Much as I think the continued demonisation of cannabis is ridiculous
> > and unscientific, that doesn't give the other side of the fence license
> > to do the same. The science that proves cannabis "cures" cancer or
> > alzheimers is almost as flaky as the science which proves cannabis
> > causes schizophrenia. There have been some studies (one in the case of
> > alzhemiers) which show it may be beneficial but by no means is it
> > certain.
> >
> > That doesn't take away the fact that it's been proved that it helps with
> > the symptoms of MS, improves appetite, reduces nausea etc. etc.
> > Cannabis /is/ beneficial but it would be best to stick to the proven
> > benefits when discussing them.
>
> Well we do have a couple of known cannabis patients including
> Angel Raich and Mr.Cubby whose cancers are controlled by the cannabis
> they use. Cubby had lost about 50 (or was it 15 lbs) in prison where
> he was given Marinol® as a substitute for cannabis.
>
> later
> bliss -- C O C O A Powered... (at california dot com)
>
> --
> bobbie sellers - a retired nurse in San Francisco
>
> "It is by will alone I set my mind in motion.
> It is by the beans of cocoa that the thoughts acquire speed,
> the thighs acquire girth, the girth become a warning.
> It is by theobromine alone I set my mind in motion."
> --from Someone else's Dune spoof ripped to my taste.
>



Reply from: ned
Date: 14 Aug 2007, 15:48
Re: Lancet: Cannabis use and risk of psychotic or affective mental health outcomes: a systematic rev

John H. wrote:

> I've accumulated some research on cannabinoids and it is fair to say that
> therein exists much unexplored potential. If governments put as much
> research dollars into cannabinoids as they do towards the drug war then it
> is very plausible that a number of therapeutic uses would have been
> established long ago.
>

they were

http :// www .nexusmagazine,com /articles/maryj.html

ned

Reply from: bobbie sellers
Date: 14 Aug 2007, 18:01
Re: Lancet: Cannabis use and risk of psychotic or affective mental health outcomes: a systematic rev

On Tue, 14 Aug 2007 14:20:53 +1000,"John H.", wrote

> You're right bobbie, better to stick to what is proven. Now if only the
> medical profession would do the same.
>
> I've accumulated some research on cannabinoids and it is fair to say
> that therein exists much unexplored potential. If governments put as
> much research dollars into cannabinoids as they do towards the drug war
> then it is very plausible that a number of therapeutic uses would have
> been established long ago.
>
> "bobbie sellers" <blissNO@SPAMcalifornia,com > wrote in message
> news:108165057471010.NC-1.56.blissNO@News.Individual,net ...
> > On Mon, 13 Aug 2007 13:32:18 +0000 (UTC),Ollie Clark, wrote
> >
> > > Cycle Surfer wrote:
> > > >
> > > > "See, in my line of work you got to keep repeating things over and
> > > > over and over again for the truth to sink in, to kind of catapult the
> > > > propaganda." George Bush 2005
> > > >
> > > > Why ARE PHARMACY / DRUG COMPANIES SO INTERESTED IN PROVING CANNABIS
> > > > IS BAD FOR YOU?
> > > > WHY ARE THEY SPENDING TENS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS WITH THESE RIGGED
> > > > STUDIES AND ADVERTISING IT?
> > > >
> > > > CANNABIS CURES CANCER / A BILLION DOLLAR INDUSTRY FOR THEM
> > > > CANNABIS CURES ALZHEIMERS , AGAIN BIG MONEY. CANNABIS IS THE BEST
> > > > TREATMENT FOR MANY AILMENTS , FROM GLAUCOMA TO NEUROPATHY.
> > >
> > > Much as I think the continued demonisation of cannabis is ridiculous
> > > and unscientific, that doesn't give the other side of the fence license
> > > to do the same. The science that proves cannabis "cures" cancer or
> > > alzheimers is almost as flaky as the science which proves cannabis
> > > causes schizophrenia. There have been some studies (one in the case of
> > > alzhemiers) which show it may be beneficial but by no means is it
> > > certain.
> > >
> > > That doesn't take away the fact that it's been proved that it helps with
> > > the symptoms of MS, improves appetite, reduces nausea etc. etc.
> > > Cannabis /is/ beneficial but it would be best to stick to the proven
> > > benefits when discussing them.
> >
> > Well we do have a couple of known cannabis patients including
> > Angel Raich and Mr.Cubby whose cancers are controlled by the cannabis
> > they use. Cubby had lost about 50 (or was it 15 lbs) in prison where
> > he was given Marinol® as a substitute for cannabis.
> >

Better than depending on fresh research go to the United States
Pharmacopia editions prior to 1937 and look at the entry for Tincture
of Cannabis, USP. This was the prescription form of cannabis for use
by physicians and by their patients for a wide variety of diseases and
conditions.

Dose was established by titration i.e. a dose was given according
to the reduction of the symptoms to a comfortable levels or until a
desirable response was obtained. It was so non-toxic that there
was no worry about the process but merely economic motives behind
limiting the doses to the lowest useful. Tincture of Cannabis
was produced by more than one "ethical" pharmaceutical company like
Squibb.

The Hemp Tax Act was passed 70 years ago based on the economic
motives of Harry J. Anslinger, head of the Federal Bureau of Narcotics
and promoter of the Single Convention on Narcotics which became one
of the documents that members of the UN had to sign to get accepted
for membership.

Before the FBN needed money after the end of the Prohibition
of Alcohol, Anslinger thought that cannabis wasn't worth his
interest.

later
bliss -- C O C O A Powered... (at california dot com)

--
bobbie sellers - a retired nurse in San Francisco

"It is by will alone I set my mind in motion.
It is by the beans of cocoa that the thoughts acquire speed,
the thighs acquire girth, the girth become a warning.
It is by theobromine alone I set my mind in motion."
--from Someone else's Dune spoof ripped to my taste.


Reply from: Cycle Surfer
Date: 14 Aug 2007, 22:06
Re: Lancet: Cannabis use and risk of psychotic or affective mental health outcomes: a systematic rev

All the new studies on cannabis and cancer use synthetics. Why?
Because of the original studies in the 70's that the pharma companies
tried to squash. It has been known for 30+ years. How many people
sacrificed / murdered / on the altar of prohibiton.

They arrest peolple for using herbal cures they can grow themselves
and then make them take a synthetic for thousands of dollars a month.
Laws are a function of economics for pharma companies and cops /
prohibitionist their henchmen.

Watching cancer die under a microscope is far different than the
subjective definition of psychosis.
Prescription drugs are the #3 / #4 killers in the west.

The prohibitionist / "scientist' have proven that they will suppress
information as public record clearly shows. Those of us who have been
in this 25-30 years know it. Such as making "hemp for victory"
disapear from the library of congress files. Yet we have a copy of
it. http :// www .youtube,com /watch?v=Ne9UF-pFhJY

Another example of this "psychotic" and anti-social behavior by pharma
companies using the government henchmen can be seen with studies on
fruits like cherries. The FDA raids the cherry growers association
with guns / confescating computers because they were promoting a study
that showed eating 20 cherries was equivelant to a aspirin / anti-
inflamitory drug.

It is a matter of protecting profits.

http :// www .druglibrary.org/schaffer/hemp/taxact/taxact.htm

Here is a video of Fords famous car made from hemp and than ran on
ethanol from hemp.
cheech and chongs pot van wasn't the first.
http :// www .youtube,com /watch?v=4rgDyEO 8cI

pharmacologist says why hemp / cannabis should be legal.
www .youtube,com /watch?v=9KLy150NR U

HEMP IS MARIJUANA.


Reply from: John H.
Date: 15 Aug 2007, 05:28
Re: Lancet: Cannabis use and risk of psychotic or affective mental health outcomes: a systematic rev

That's right, all political. Here's the rub: my understanding is that hemp
seeds contain and even better balance of omega fats than flaxseed. Hemp also
contains cannabidol, a non-psychoactive cannabinoid, that's shows much
therapeutic potential. Studies have indicated it is a powerful antioxidant,
as a CB 2 agonist it shows protential as an anti brain cancer agent(given no
progress in treating brain cancers in the last 20 years this refusal to
investigate its potential here is unforgivable), demonstrates
anti-inflammatory qualities, impedes amyloid deposition, and is
neuroprotective to a high degree. But instead we'll ply the patients with
highly toxic drugs which 20 years of research have failed to improve upon.
In fact one recent analysis claimed that chemo drugs were better at killing
neurons than cancer cells.

Got me stuffed people, I just can't understand it at all. This little
project is on hold at the moment but later down the track I want to write
something up on this so I may plug you lot for some information in the near
future.


"bobbie sellers" <blissNO@SPAMcalifornia,com > wrote in message
news:1081748130281012.NC-1.56.blissNO@News.Individual,net ...
> On Tue, 14 Aug 2007 14:20:53 +1000,"John H.", wrote
>
> > You're right bobbie, better to stick to what is proven. Now if only the
> > medical profession would do the same.
> >
> > I've accumulated some research on cannabinoids and it is fair to say
> > that therein exists much unexplored potential. If governments put as
> > much research dollars into cannabinoids as they do towards the drug war
> > then it is very plausible that a number of therapeutic uses would have
> > been established long ago.
> >
> > "bobbie sellers" <blissNO@SPAMcalifornia,com > wrote in message
> > news:108165057471010.NC-1.56.blissNO@News.Individual,net ...
> > > On Mon, 13 Aug 2007 13:32:18 +0000 (UTC),Ollie Clark, wrote
> > >
> > > > Cycle Surfer wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > "See, in my line of work you got to keep repeating things over and
> > > > > over and over again for the truth to sink in, to kind of catapult
the
> > > > > propaganda." George Bush 2005
> > > > >
> > > > > Why ARE PHARMACY / DRUG COMPANIES SO INTERESTED IN PROVING
CANNABIS
> > > > > IS BAD FOR YOU?
> > > > > WHY ARE THEY SPENDING TENS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS WITH THESE
RIGGED
> > > > > STUDIES AND ADVERTISING IT?
> > > > >
> > > > > CANNABIS CURES CANCER / A BILLION DOLLAR INDUSTRY FOR THEM
> > > > > CANNABIS CURES ALZHEIMERS , AGAIN BIG MONEY. CANNABIS IS THE BEST
> > > > > TREATMENT FOR MANY AILMENTS , FROM GLAUCOMA TO NEUROPATHY.
> > > >
> > > > Much as I think the continued demonisation of cannabis is ridiculous
> > > > and unscientific, that doesn't give the other side of the fence
license
> > > > to do the same. The science that proves cannabis "cures" cancer or
> > > > alzheimers is almost as flaky as the science which proves cannabis
> > > > causes schizophrenia. There have been some studies (one in the case
of
> > > > alzhemiers) which show it may be beneficial but by no means is it
> > > > certain.
> > > >
> > > > That doesn't take away the fact that it's been proved that it helps
with
> > > > the symptoms of MS, improves appetite, reduces nausea etc. etc.
> > > > Cannabis /is/ beneficial but it would be best to stick to the proven
> > > > benefits when discussing them.
> > >
> > > Well we do have a couple of known cannabis patients including
> > > Angel Raich and Mr.Cubby whose cancers are controlled by the cannabis
> > > they use. Cubby had lost about 50 (or was it 15 lbs) in prison where
> > > he was given Marinol® as a substitute for cannabis.
> > >
>
> Better than depending on fresh research go to the United States
> Pharmacopia editions prior to 1937 and look at the entry for Tincture
> of Cannabis, USP. This was the prescription form of cannabis for use
> by physicians and by their patients for a wide variety of diseases and
> conditions.
>
> Dose was established by titration i.e. a dose was given according
> to the reduction of the symptoms to a comfortable levels or until a
> desirable response was obtained. It was so non-toxic that there
> was no worry about the process but merely economic motives behind
> limiting the doses to the lowest useful. Tincture of Cannabis
> was produced by more than one "ethical" pharmaceutical company like
> Squibb.
>
> The Hemp Tax Act was passed 70 years ago based on the economic
> motives of Harry J. Anslinger, head of the Federal Bureau of Narcotics
> and promoter of the Single Convention on Narcotics which became one
> of the documents that members of the UN had to sign to get accepted
> for membership.
>
> Before the FBN needed money after the end of the Prohibition
> of Alcohol, Anslinger thought that cannabis wasn't worth his
> interest.
>
> later
> bliss -- C O C O A Powered... (at california dot com)
>
> --
> bobbie sellers - a retired nurse in San Francisco
>
> "It is by will alone I set my mind in motion.
> It is by the beans of cocoa that the thoughts acquire speed,
> the thighs acquire girth, the girth become a warning.
> It is by theobromine alone I set my mind in motion."
> --from Someone else's Dune spoof ripped to my taste.
>






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