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Milk

Reply from: aesthete8@hotmail . com
Date: 23 Feb 2007, 00:11
Milk

Isn't drinking milk supposed to be good for persons suffering from
osteoporosis?

But what if the person has lactose intolerance?


Reply from: ron
Date: 23 Feb 2007, 01:32
Re: Milk

On Feb 22, 4:11 pm, "aesthe...@hotmail . com " <aesthe...@hotmail . com >
wrote:
> Isn't drinking milk supposed to be good for persons suffering from
> osteoporosis?
>
> But what if the person has lactose intolerance?

I think it's the vitamin D that is of value in milk (certainly not the
fat, the hormones and contaminants). Supplementing with D3 should
work as well, just have your blood 25(OH)D3 measured to make sure it
is where you want it (probably 50-70 ng/ml)...Best wishes and good
health, ron


Reply from: Art S
Date: 23 Feb 2007, 04:38
Re: Milk


"ron" <oitbso@yahoo . com > wrote in message
news:1172190751.926002.225530@v45g2000cwv.googlegroups . com ...
> On Feb 22, 4:11 pm, "aesthe...@hotmail . com " <aesthe...@hotmail . com >
> wrote:
>> Isn't drinking milk supposed to be good for persons suffering from
>> osteoporosis?
>>
>> But what if the person has lactose intolerance?
>
> I think it's the vitamin D that is of value in milk (certainly not the
> fat, the hormones and contaminants). Supplementing with D3 should
> work as well, just have your blood 25(OH)D3 measured to make sure it
> is where you want it (probably 50-70 ng/ml)...Best wishes and good
> health, ron
>

Milk also has calcium, magnesium, potassium, zinc, and manganese.

See * w w w .nal.usda.gov/fnic/foodcomp/search/

For the original poster: try lactaid.

Art



Reply from: Bert Hyman
Date: 24 Feb 2007, 02:57
Re: Milk

In news:1172190751.926002.225530@v45g2000cwv.googlegroups . com "ron"
<oitbso@yahoo . com > wrote:

> On Feb 22, 4:11 pm, "aesthe...@hotmail . com " <aesthe...@hotmail . com >
> wrote:
>> Isn't drinking milk supposed to be good for persons suffering from
>> osteoporosis?
>>
>> But what if the person has lactose intolerance?
>
> I think it's the vitamin D that is of value in milk (certainly not the
> fat, the hormones and contaminants).

In the US, most of the Vitamin D in milk is added after the fact by the
processor. If you're just after the Vitamin D, you can get it elsewhere.

--
Bert Hyman St. Paul, MN bert@iphouse . com

Reply from: Matti Narkia
Date: 24 Feb 2007, 03:40
Re: Milk

On 22 Feb 2007 15:11:45 -0800, "aesthete8@hotmail . com "
<aesthete8@hotmail . com > wrote:

>Isn't drinking milk supposed to be good for persons suffering from
>osteoporosis?
>
Milk has some calcium and relatively small amount of added vitamin D
in some countries including USA. Apart from that I don't think that
milk has much value in treating or preventing osteoporosis. Countries,
where consumption of dairy products is high also happen to have high
incidence of osteoporosis. That may not be milk's fault, perhaps the
high consumption of acid producing animal protein compared with too
low consumption of alkaline vegetables, and too little exposure to the
sunlight in these countries have more to do with it, but milk does not
seem to be able to prevent it.

You can get calcium from other foods and from supplements and vitamin
D from the sun's UVB radiation and from supplements. To prevent or
treat osteoporosis you also need plenty of vegetables and fruit to
produce a healthy alkaline surplus, magnesium, boron, vitamin K and
bone stressing exercise. Restrict consumption of grain products, which
are acid forming.

If you want to take milk products, use fermented dairy products, for
example yoghurt.

>But what if the person has lactose intolerance?

Take yoghurt, it has less lactose than milk, and it's autodigesting,
because it's lactic acid bacteria produce lactase, the enzyme, which
digests lactose. Allmost all lactose intolerant people can eat yoghurt
without problem.



--
Matti Narkia

Reply from: swabymanor@googlemail . com
Date: 24 Feb 2007, 10:12
Re: Milk

On Feb 22, 11:11 pm, "aesthe...@hotmail . com " <aesthe...@hotmail . com >
wrote:
> Isn't drinking milk supposed to be good for persons suffering from
> osteoporosis?
>
> But what if the person has lactose intolerance?

Most milk marketed in the U.S. is fortified with vitamin D (vitamin D3
or 7-dehydro-cholesterol) to obtain a standardized amount of 400 IU
per quart.
* w w w .ajcn.org/cgi/content/full/77/1/204 Shows that Healthy men
seem to use 3000-5000 IU cholecalciferol a day. So drinking a whole
quart of milk every day will provide only one tenth of the amount of
Vitamin D3 you body actually uses. It is still very important to get
the bulk of your Vitamin d3 from regular, limited (20mins max)
exposure of your skin directly to sunlight. This Risk assessment for
vitamin D -- Hathcock et al. 85 (1): 6 ... * w w w .ajcn.org/cgi/
content/abstract/85/1/6 sets out the science showing the absence of
toxicity in trials conducted in healthy adults that used vitamin D
dose 250 µg/d (10 000 IU vitamin D3) so using an effective strength D3
supplement is perfectly safe for those unable to get regular sun
exposure.

European/UK readers should be aware that our milk is NOT fortified and
therefore contains only a trace of Vitamin D.





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