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Strontium For Osteoporosis
On Apr 23, 6:12 pm, Ron Peterson <r...@shell.core . com > wrote:
> On Apr 23, 10:51 am, BoneLady <srsuppor...@gmail . com > wrote:
>
> > Are you interested in an alternative to prescription drugs for
> > osteoporosis? at * strontiumforbones.blogspot . com /. >
> I don't believe that strontium is considered a nutrient and that makes
> it difficult to recommend.
>
> And since strontium is more dense to xrays, it can cause misleading
> BMD tests.
>
> The tests have only been done with strontium renelate which makes it
> hard to conclude that strontium citrate would have the same action.
>
> --
> Multiple clinical trials conducted since the 1950s using strontiu=
m gluconate,carbonate,lactate and chloride have attested to the efficacy of =
supplemental strontium in building strong bones. The ranelate studies are mo=
re recent. It is the elemental strontium itself that does the bone building.=
Strontium citrate has the advantage of better gastric tolerance.See my blog=
for links to some of the clinical studies. The person reading your dexa sca=
n should make adjustments to the reading if you have been taking strontium. =
See * w w w .osteopenia3 . com /Strontium-dexa-scan.html.
BoneLady at * strontiumforbones.blogspot . com /
> On Apr 23, 10:51 am, BoneLady <srsuppor...@gmail . com > wrote:
>
> > Are you interested in an alternative to prescription drugs for
> > osteoporosis? at * strontiumforbones.blogspot . com /. >
> I don't believe that strontium is considered a nutrient and that makes
> it difficult to recommend.
>
> And since strontium is more dense to xrays, it can cause misleading
> BMD tests.
>
> The tests have only been done with strontium renelate which makes it
> hard to conclude that strontium citrate would have the same action.
>
> --
> Multiple clinical trials conducted since the 1950s using strontiu=
m gluconate,carbonate,lactate and chloride have attested to the efficacy of =
supplemental strontium in building strong bones. The ranelate studies are mo=
re recent. It is the elemental strontium itself that does the bone building.=
Strontium citrate has the advantage of better gastric tolerance.See my blog=
for links to some of the clinical studies. The person reading your dexa sca=
n should make adjustments to the reading if you have been taking strontium. =
See * w w w .osteopenia3 . com /Strontium-dexa-scan.html.
BoneLady at * strontiumforbones.blogspot . com /
BoneLady wrote:
> On Apr 23, 6:12 pm, Ron Peterson <r...@shell.core . com > wrote:
>> On Apr 23, 10:51 am, BoneLady <srsuppor...@gmail . com > wrote:
>>
>>> Are you interested in an alternative to prescription drugs for
>>> osteoporosis? at * strontiumforbones.blogspot . com /. >
>> I don't believe that strontium is considered a nutrient and that makes
>> it difficult to recommend.
>>
>> And since strontium is more dense to xrays, it can cause misleading
>> BMD tests.
>>
>> The tests have only been done with strontium renelate which makes it
>> hard to conclude that strontium citrate would have the same action.
>>
>> --
>> Multiple clinical trials conducted since the 1950s using strontium gluconate,carbonate,lactate and chloride have attested to the efficacy of supplemental strontium in building strong bones. The ranelate studies are more recent. It is the elemental strontium itself that does the bone building. Strontium citrate has the advantage of better gastric tolerance.See my blog for links to some of the clinical studies. The person reading your dexa scan should make adjustments to the reading if you have been taking strontium. See * w w w .osteopenia3 . com /Strontium-dexa-scan.html.
> BoneLady at * strontiumforbones.blogspot . com /
>
Say, BoneLady, if you could limit the length of your lines to 72
characters, it'd make life easier for some of us. I hate having to
fetch my mouse out of storage! :-)
--
Marshall Price of Miami
Known to Yahoo as d021317c
> On Apr 23, 6:12 pm, Ron Peterson <r...@shell.core . com > wrote:
>> On Apr 23, 10:51 am, BoneLady <srsuppor...@gmail . com > wrote:
>>
>>> Are you interested in an alternative to prescription drugs for
>>> osteoporosis? at * strontiumforbones.blogspot . com /. >
>> I don't believe that strontium is considered a nutrient and that makes
>> it difficult to recommend.
>>
>> And since strontium is more dense to xrays, it can cause misleading
>> BMD tests.
>>
>> The tests have only been done with strontium renelate which makes it
>> hard to conclude that strontium citrate would have the same action.
>>
>> --
>> Multiple clinical trials conducted since the 1950s using strontium gluconate,carbonate,lactate and chloride have attested to the efficacy of supplemental strontium in building strong bones. The ranelate studies are more recent. It is the elemental strontium itself that does the bone building. Strontium citrate has the advantage of better gastric tolerance.See my blog for links to some of the clinical studies. The person reading your dexa scan should make adjustments to the reading if you have been taking strontium. See * w w w .osteopenia3 . com /Strontium-dexa-scan.html.
> BoneLady at * strontiumforbones.blogspot . com /
>
Say, BoneLady, if you could limit the length of your lines to 72
characters, it'd make life easier for some of us. I hate having to
fetch my mouse out of storage! :-)
--
Marshall Price of Miami
Known to Yahoo as d021317c
On Apr 23, 6:12 pm, Ron Peterson <r...@shell.core . com > wrote:
> On Apr 23, 10:51 am, BoneLady <srsuppor...@gmail . com > wrote:
>
> > Are you interested in an alternative to prescription drugs for
> > osteoporosis? Strontium builds stronger bones than drugs like Fosamax,
> > Actonel, or Boniva but without the dangerous side effects. For more
> > information about strontium for treating osteoporosis, please visit
> > Strontium For Bones at * strontiumforbones.blogspot . com /. My
> > blog offers visitors discussions, information, and links which will be
> > updated periodically.
>
> I don't believe that strontium is considered a nutrient and that makes
> it difficult to recommend.
>
> And since strontium is more dense to xrays, it can cause misleading
> BMD tests.
>
> The tests have only been done with strontium renelate which makes it
> hard to conclude that strontium citrate would have the same action.
>
> --
> Ron
Strontium is considered to be an essential nutrient like calcium and
is available in small amounts from food. It is believed that the
strontium-calcium bone matrix is far stronger than calcium matrix
alone.
> On Apr 23, 10:51 am, BoneLady <srsuppor...@gmail . com > wrote:
>
> > Are you interested in an alternative to prescription drugs for
> > osteoporosis? Strontium builds stronger bones than drugs like Fosamax,
> > Actonel, or Boniva but without the dangerous side effects. For more
> > information about strontium for treating osteoporosis, please visit
> > Strontium For Bones at * strontiumforbones.blogspot . com /. My
> > blog offers visitors discussions, information, and links which will be
> > updated periodically.
>
> I don't believe that strontium is considered a nutrient and that makes
> it difficult to recommend.
>
> And since strontium is more dense to xrays, it can cause misleading
> BMD tests.
>
> The tests have only been done with strontium renelate which makes it
> hard to conclude that strontium citrate would have the same action.
>
> --
> Ron
Strontium is considered to be an essential nutrient like calcium and
is available in small amounts from food. It is believed that the
strontium-calcium bone matrix is far stronger than calcium matrix
alone.
On Apr 24, 2:43 pm, BoneLady <srsuppor...@gmail . com > wrote:
> On Apr 23, 6:12 pm, Ron Peterson <r...@shell.core . com > wrote:
> > I don't believe that strontium is considered a nutrient and that makes
> > it difficult to recommend.
> Strontium is considered to be an essential nutrient like calcium and
> is available in small amounts from food. It is believed that the
> strontium-calcium bone matrix is far stronger than calcium matrix
> alone.
Who considers strontium to be an essential nutrient?
Is there a study that indicates that strontium in the bone matrix is
the cause of higher bone strength?
--
Ron
> On Apr 23, 6:12 pm, Ron Peterson <r...@shell.core . com > wrote:
> > I don't believe that strontium is considered a nutrient and that makes
> > it difficult to recommend.
> Strontium is considered to be an essential nutrient like calcium and
> is available in small amounts from food. It is believed that the
> strontium-calcium bone matrix is far stronger than calcium matrix
> alone.
Who considers strontium to be an essential nutrient?
Is there a study that indicates that strontium in the bone matrix is
the cause of higher bone strength?
--
Ron
On Wed, 30 Apr 2008 14:44:21 -0700 (PDT), Ron Peterson
<ron@shell.core . com > wrote:
>On Apr 24, 2:43 pm, BoneLady <srsuppor...@gmail . com > wrote:
>> On Apr 23, 6:12 pm, Ron Peterson <r...@shell.core . com > wrote:
>
>> > I don't believe that strontium is considered a nutrient and that makes
>> > it difficult to recommend.
>
>> Strontium is considered to be an essential nutrient like calcium and
>> is available in small amounts from food. It is believed that the
>> strontium-calcium bone matrix is far stronger than calcium matrix
>> alone.
>
>Who considers strontium to be an essential nutrient?
>
>Is there a study that indicates that strontium in the bone matrix is
>the cause of higher bone strength?
The physician's information sheet packed with the Strontium Renelate I
am taking includes some details of the studies made:
Two placebo controlled phase III studies: SOTI and TROPOS study. SOTI
involved 1,649 postmenopausal women with established osteoporosis (low
lumber BMD and prevalent vertebral fracture) and a mean age of 70
years....1,556 patients over 80 years at inclusion...reduced the
relative risk of fracture by 41 % over 3 years in the SOTI study
(table 1)...
Bruce-in-Bangkok
(correct Address is bpaige125atgmaildotcom)
<ron@shell.core . com > wrote:
>On Apr 24, 2:43 pm, BoneLady <srsuppor...@gmail . com > wrote:
>> On Apr 23, 6:12 pm, Ron Peterson <r...@shell.core . com > wrote:
>
>> > I don't believe that strontium is considered a nutrient and that makes
>> > it difficult to recommend.
>
>> Strontium is considered to be an essential nutrient like calcium and
>> is available in small amounts from food. It is believed that the
>> strontium-calcium bone matrix is far stronger than calcium matrix
>> alone.
>
>Who considers strontium to be an essential nutrient?
>
>Is there a study that indicates that strontium in the bone matrix is
>the cause of higher bone strength?
The physician's information sheet packed with the Strontium Renelate I
am taking includes some details of the studies made:
Two placebo controlled phase III studies: SOTI and TROPOS study. SOTI
involved 1,649 postmenopausal women with established osteoporosis (low
lumber BMD and prevalent vertebral fracture) and a mean age of 70
years....1,556 patients over 80 years at inclusion...reduced the
relative risk of fracture by 41 % over 3 years in the SOTI study
(table 1)...
Bruce-in-Bangkok
(correct Address is bpaige125atgmaildotcom)
On Apr 30, 7:26 pm, Bruce in Bangkok
<decypher_signat...@signature.line> wrote:
> On Wed, 30 Apr 2008 14:44:21 -0700 (PDT), Ron Peterson
>
>
>
> <r...@shell.core . com > wrote:
> >On Apr 24, 2:43 pm, BoneLady <srsuppor...@gmail . com > wrote:
> >> On Apr 23, 6:12 pm, Ron Peterson <r...@shell.core . com > wrote:
>
> >> > I don't believe that strontium is considered a nutrient and that make=
s
> >> > it difficult to recommend.
>
> >> Strontium is considered to be an essential nutrient like calcium and
> >> is available in small amounts from food. It is believed that the
> >> strontium-calcium bone matrix is far stronger than calcium matrix
> >> alone.
>
> >Who considers strontium to be an essential nutrient?
>
> >Is there a study that indicates that strontium in the bone matrix is
> >the cause of higher bone strength?
>
> The physician's information sheet packed with the Strontium Renelate I
> am taking includes some details of the studies made:
>
> Two placebo controlled phase III studies: SOTI and TROPOS study. SOTI
> involved 1,649 postmenopausal women with established osteoporosis (low
> lumber BMD and prevalent vertebral fracture) and a mean age of 70
> years....1,556 patients over 80 years at inclusion...reduced the
> relative risk of fracture by 41 % over 3 years in the SOTI study
> (table 1)...
Does the information sheet analyze why the drug reduces the relative
risk of fracture? Is it due to the strontium in the bone matrix?
--
Ron
<decypher_signat...@signature.line> wrote:
> On Wed, 30 Apr 2008 14:44:21 -0700 (PDT), Ron Peterson
>
>
>
> <r...@shell.core . com > wrote:
> >On Apr 24, 2:43 pm, BoneLady <srsuppor...@gmail . com > wrote:
> >> On Apr 23, 6:12 pm, Ron Peterson <r...@shell.core . com > wrote:
>
> >> > I don't believe that strontium is considered a nutrient and that make=
s
> >> > it difficult to recommend.
>
> >> Strontium is considered to be an essential nutrient like calcium and
> >> is available in small amounts from food. It is believed that the
> >> strontium-calcium bone matrix is far stronger than calcium matrix
> >> alone.
>
> >Who considers strontium to be an essential nutrient?
>
> >Is there a study that indicates that strontium in the bone matrix is
> >the cause of higher bone strength?
>
> The physician's information sheet packed with the Strontium Renelate I
> am taking includes some details of the studies made:
>
> Two placebo controlled phase III studies: SOTI and TROPOS study. SOTI
> involved 1,649 postmenopausal women with established osteoporosis (low
> lumber BMD and prevalent vertebral fracture) and a mean age of 70
> years....1,556 patients over 80 years at inclusion...reduced the
> relative risk of fracture by 41 % over 3 years in the SOTI study
> (table 1)...
Does the information sheet analyze why the drug reduces the relative
risk of fracture? Is it due to the strontium in the bone matrix?
--
Ron
BoneLady wrote:
> On Apr 23, 6:12 pm, Ron Peterson <r...@shell.core . com > wrote:
>> On Apr 23, 10:51 am, BoneLady <srsuppor...@gmail . com > wrote:
>>
>>> Are you interested in an alternative to prescription drugs for
>>> osteoporosis? Strontium builds stronger bones than drugs like Fosamax,
>>> Actonel, or Boniva but without the dangerous side effects. For more
>>> information about strontium for treating osteoporosis, please visit
>>> Strontium For Bones at * strontiumforbones.blogspot . com /. My
>>> blog offers visitors discussions, information, and links which will be
>>> updated periodically.
>> I don't believe that strontium is considered a nutrient and that makes
>> it difficult to recommend.
>>
>> And since strontium is more dense to xrays, it can cause misleading
>> BMD tests.
>>
>> The tests have only been done with strontium renelate which makes it
>> hard to conclude that strontium citrate would have the same action.
>>
>> --
>> Ron
>
> Strontium is considered to be an essential nutrient like calcium and
> is available in small amounts from food. It is believed that the
> strontium-calcium bone matrix is far stronger than calcium matrix
> alone.
"Essential" usually has a special meaning in nutrition. Calcium is a
"major mineral," while strontium is rarely mentioned in nutrition
textbooks, and is usually treated as a "trace element" or micronutrient.
You'll find some interesting information about it if you use Google
to search for:
strontium -kscripts site:orthomolecular.org
Their emphasis is on schizophrenia, but their investigations into
micronutrients are coming up with interesting findings.
(Incidentally, the worldwide contamination of soils with strontium-90
during the era of atom bomb testing suggests another reason for
considering the addition strontium to soils.)
--
Marshall Price of Miami
Known to Yahoo as d021317c
> On Apr 23, 6:12 pm, Ron Peterson <r...@shell.core . com > wrote:
>> On Apr 23, 10:51 am, BoneLady <srsuppor...@gmail . com > wrote:
>>
>>> Are you interested in an alternative to prescription drugs for
>>> osteoporosis? Strontium builds stronger bones than drugs like Fosamax,
>>> Actonel, or Boniva but without the dangerous side effects. For more
>>> information about strontium for treating osteoporosis, please visit
>>> Strontium For Bones at * strontiumforbones.blogspot . com /. My
>>> blog offers visitors discussions, information, and links which will be
>>> updated periodically.
>> I don't believe that strontium is considered a nutrient and that makes
>> it difficult to recommend.
>>
>> And since strontium is more dense to xrays, it can cause misleading
>> BMD tests.
>>
>> The tests have only been done with strontium renelate which makes it
>> hard to conclude that strontium citrate would have the same action.
>>
>> --
>> Ron
>
> Strontium is considered to be an essential nutrient like calcium and
> is available in small amounts from food. It is believed that the
> strontium-calcium bone matrix is far stronger than calcium matrix
> alone.
"Essential" usually has a special meaning in nutrition. Calcium is a
"major mineral," while strontium is rarely mentioned in nutrition
textbooks, and is usually treated as a "trace element" or micronutrient.
You'll find some interesting information about it if you use Google
to search for:
strontium -kscripts site:orthomolecular.org
Their emphasis is on schizophrenia, but their investigations into
micronutrients are coming up with interesting findings.
(Incidentally, the worldwide contamination of soils with strontium-90
during the era of atom bomb testing suggests another reason for
considering the addition strontium to soils.)
--
Marshall Price of Miami
Known to Yahoo as d021317c
On Apr 23, 6:12 pm, Ron Peterson <r...@shell.core . com > wrote:
> On Apr 23, 10:51 am, BoneLady <srsuppor...@gmail . com > wrote:
>
> > Are you interested in an alternative to prescription drugs for
> > osteoporosis? Strontium builds stronger bones than drugs like Fosamax,
> > Actonel, or Boniva but without the dangerous side effects. For more
> > information about strontium for treating osteoporosis, please visit
> > Strontium For Bones at * strontiumforbones.blogspot . com /. My
> > blog offers visitors discussions, information, and links which will be
> > updated periodically.
>
> I don't believe that strontium is considered a nutrient and that makes
> it difficult to recommend.
>
> And since strontium is more dense to xrays, it can cause misleading
> BMD tests.
The correction factor for strontium has been published and there is a
link for it on my blog at * strontiumforbones.blogspot . com in my
links section.
>
> The tests have only been done with strontium renelate which makes it
> hard to conclude that strontium citrate would have the same action.
Biochemically, since all forms of strontium must dissociate in the
stomach and then be protein-bound in the intestines, it doesn't matter
which form you take, although the citrate, like calcium citrate, is
very absorbable and has few side effects. The ranelate is a patented
form so that Servier could market their drug in Europe. There is no
real advantage to taking the ranelate form.
>
> --
> Ron
> On Apr 23, 10:51 am, BoneLady <srsuppor...@gmail . com > wrote:
>
> > Are you interested in an alternative to prescription drugs for
> > osteoporosis? Strontium builds stronger bones than drugs like Fosamax,
> > Actonel, or Boniva but without the dangerous side effects. For more
> > information about strontium for treating osteoporosis, please visit
> > Strontium For Bones at * strontiumforbones.blogspot . com /. My
> > blog offers visitors discussions, information, and links which will be
> > updated periodically.
>
> I don't believe that strontium is considered a nutrient and that makes
> it difficult to recommend.
>
> And since strontium is more dense to xrays, it can cause misleading
> BMD tests.
The correction factor for strontium has been published and there is a
link for it on my blog at * strontiumforbones.blogspot . com in my
links section.
>
> The tests have only been done with strontium renelate which makes it
> hard to conclude that strontium citrate would have the same action.
Biochemically, since all forms of strontium must dissociate in the
stomach and then be protein-bound in the intestines, it doesn't matter
which form you take, although the citrate, like calcium citrate, is
very absorbable and has few side effects. The ranelate is a patented
form so that Servier could market their drug in Europe. There is no
real advantage to taking the ranelate form.
>
> --
> Ron
On Wed, 23 Apr 2008 08:51:51 -0700 (PDT), BoneLady
<srsupporter@gmail . com > wrote:
>Are you interested in an alternative to prescription drugs for
>osteoporosis? Strontium builds stronger bones than drugs like Fosamax,
>Actonel, or Boniva but without the dangerous side effects. For more
>information about strontium for treating osteoporosis, please visit
>Strontium For Bones at * strontiumforbones.blogspot . com /. My
>blog offers visitors discussions, information, and links which will be
>updated periodically.
As I am presently taking strontium ranelate under a doctor's
supervision I note a number of differences in what is stated on the
Blog spot and what my doctor discussed with me.
Calcium - The blog specifically mentions taking 1200 MG of calcium
daily. My doctor advises me that if serum calcium levels are in the
high normal range then the body cannot process additional calcium.
Vitamin D3 - The blog specifically mentions taking D3 daily. My doctor
advises that providing D3 is being normally manufactured by the body
there is no requirement for additional supplements
Magnesium - The blog specifically mentions taking Magnesium daily. My
doctor advises that is serum levels of magnesium are normal no
additional magnesium is required.
Finally the blog spot loads erratically so I tried
* strontiumforbones . com / which appears to be much the same
information for strontium except that it appears to be an
advertizement for the sale of strontium capsules by an organization
named "Relentless Improvement", "Premium-Quality Nutriceuticals"
Bruce-in-Bangkok
(correct email address for reply)
<srsupporter@gmail . com > wrote:
>Are you interested in an alternative to prescription drugs for
>osteoporosis? Strontium builds stronger bones than drugs like Fosamax,
>Actonel, or Boniva but without the dangerous side effects. For more
>information about strontium for treating osteoporosis, please visit
>Strontium For Bones at * strontiumforbones.blogspot . com /. My
>blog offers visitors discussions, information, and links which will be
>updated periodically.
As I am presently taking strontium ranelate under a doctor's
supervision I note a number of differences in what is stated on the
Blog spot and what my doctor discussed with me.
Calcium - The blog specifically mentions taking 1200 MG of calcium
daily. My doctor advises me that if serum calcium levels are in the
high normal range then the body cannot process additional calcium.
Vitamin D3 - The blog specifically mentions taking D3 daily. My doctor
advises that providing D3 is being normally manufactured by the body
there is no requirement for additional supplements
Magnesium - The blog specifically mentions taking Magnesium daily. My
doctor advises that is serum levels of magnesium are normal no
additional magnesium is required.
Finally the blog spot loads erratically so I tried
* strontiumforbones . com / which appears to be much the same
information for strontium except that it appears to be an
advertizement for the sale of strontium capsules by an organization
named "Relentless Improvement", "Premium-Quality Nutriceuticals"
Bruce-in-Bangkok
(correct email address for reply)
Bruce in Bangkok wrote:
> On Wed, 23 Apr 2008 08:51:51 -0700 (PDT), BoneLady
> <srsupporter@gmail . com > wrote:
>
>
>>Are you interested in an alternative to prescription drugs for
>>osteoporosis? Strontium builds stronger bones than drugs like Fosamax,
>>Actonel, or Boniva but without the dangerous side effects. For more
>>information about strontium for treating osteoporosis, please visit
>>Strontium For Bones at * strontiumforbones.blogspot . com /. My
>>blog offers visitors discussions, information, and links which will be
>>updated periodically.
>
>
>
> As I am presently taking strontium ranelate under a doctor's
> supervision I note a number of differences in what is stated on the
> Blog spot and what my doctor discussed with me.
>
> Calcium - The blog specifically mentions taking 1200 MG of calcium
> daily. My doctor advises me that if serum calcium levels are in the
> high normal range then the body cannot process additional calcium.
Exactly
>
> Vitamin D3 - The blog specifically mentions taking D3 daily. My doctor
> advises that providing D3 is being normally manufactured by the body
> there is no requirement for additional supplements
Exactly
>
> Magnesium - The blog specifically mentions taking Magnesium daily. My
> doctor advises that is serum levels of magnesium are normal no
> additional magnesium is required.
>
> Finally the blog spot loads erratically so I tried
> * strontiumforbones . com / which appears to be much the same
> information for strontium except that it appears to be an
> advertizement for the sale of strontium capsules by an organization
> named "Relentless Improvement", "Premium-Quality Nutriceuticals"
>
>
> Bruce-in-Bangkok
> (correct email address for reply)
A good reason to take any supplement or alternative advice given here
with a grain of salt, and a good reason to see a good endocrinologist if
you have osteoporosis or osteopenia ... to get a complete workup and
find out exactly what supplements you need to take so you take no more
and no less than you need.
Larry
> On Wed, 23 Apr 2008 08:51:51 -0700 (PDT), BoneLady
> <srsupporter@gmail . com > wrote:
>
>
>>Are you interested in an alternative to prescription drugs for
>>osteoporosis? Strontium builds stronger bones than drugs like Fosamax,
>>Actonel, or Boniva but without the dangerous side effects. For more
>>information about strontium for treating osteoporosis, please visit
>>Strontium For Bones at * strontiumforbones.blogspot . com /. My
>>blog offers visitors discussions, information, and links which will be
>>updated periodically.
>
>
>
> As I am presently taking strontium ranelate under a doctor's
> supervision I note a number of differences in what is stated on the
> Blog spot and what my doctor discussed with me.
>
> Calcium - The blog specifically mentions taking 1200 MG of calcium
> daily. My doctor advises me that if serum calcium levels are in the
> high normal range then the body cannot process additional calcium.
Exactly
>
> Vitamin D3 - The blog specifically mentions taking D3 daily. My doctor
> advises that providing D3 is being normally manufactured by the body
> there is no requirement for additional supplements
Exactly
>
> Magnesium - The blog specifically mentions taking Magnesium daily. My
> doctor advises that is serum levels of magnesium are normal no
> additional magnesium is required.
>
> Finally the blog spot loads erratically so I tried
> * strontiumforbones . com / which appears to be much the same
> information for strontium except that it appears to be an
> advertizement for the sale of strontium capsules by an organization
> named "Relentless Improvement", "Premium-Quality Nutriceuticals"
>
>
> Bruce-in-Bangkok
> (correct email address for reply)
A good reason to take any supplement or alternative advice given here
with a grain of salt, and a good reason to see a good endocrinologist if
you have osteoporosis or osteopenia ... to get a complete workup and
find out exactly what supplements you need to take so you take no more
and no less than you need.
Larry
On Wed, 23 Apr 2008 22:23:18 -0400, Larry <larry@nospam . net > wrote:
>Bruce in Bangkok wrote:
>> On Wed, 23 Apr 2008 08:51:51 -0700 (PDT), BoneLady
>> <srsupporter@gmail . com > wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Are you interested in an alternative to prescription drugs for
>>>osteoporosis? Strontium builds stronger bones than drugs like Fosamax,
>>>Actonel, or Boniva but without the dangerous side effects. For more
>>>information about strontium for treating osteoporosis, please visit
>>>Strontium For Bones at * strontiumforbones.blogspot . com /. My
>>>blog offers visitors discussions, information, and links which will be
>>>updated periodically.
>>
>>
>>
>> As I am presently taking strontium ranelate under a doctor's
>> supervision I note a number of differences in what is stated on the
>> Blog spot and what my doctor discussed with me.
>>
>> Calcium - The blog specifically mentions taking 1200 MG of calcium
>> daily. My doctor advises me that if serum calcium levels are in the
>> high normal range then the body cannot process additional calcium.
>Exactly
>>
>> Vitamin D3 - The blog specifically mentions taking D3 daily. My doctor
>> advises that providing D3 is being normally manufactured by the body
>> there is no requirement for additional supplements
>Exactly
>>
>> Magnesium - The blog specifically mentions taking Magnesium daily. My
>> doctor advises that is serum levels of magnesium are normal no
>> additional magnesium is required.
>>
>> Finally the blog spot loads erratically so I tried
>> * strontiumforbones . com / which appears to be much the same
>> information for strontium except that it appears to be an
>> advertizement for the sale of strontium capsules by an organization
>> named "Relentless Improvement", "Premium-Quality Nutriceuticals"
>>
>>
>> Bruce-in-Bangkok
>> (correct email address for reply)
>
>A good reason to take any supplement or alternative advice given here
>with a grain of salt, and a good reason to see a good endocrinologist if
>you have osteoporosis or osteopenia ... to get a complete workup and
>find out exactly what supplements you need to take so you take no more
>and no less than you need.
>
>Larry
Unfortunately, in a sense,I have been consulting the same doctor for
nearly 20 years. Prior to my retirement the clinic was my company's
medical advisor and they still treat several of the original
management staff. When a problem develops my doctor is prepared to
discuss all aspects of the treatment as well as any alternate
treatments and to consult if she feels it advisable. I don't seem to
have many of the patient/doctor problems that I read about in the
group.
Bruce-in-Bangkok
(correct email address for reply)
>Bruce in Bangkok wrote:
>> On Wed, 23 Apr 2008 08:51:51 -0700 (PDT), BoneLady
>> <srsupporter@gmail . com > wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Are you interested in an alternative to prescription drugs for
>>>osteoporosis? Strontium builds stronger bones than drugs like Fosamax,
>>>Actonel, or Boniva but without the dangerous side effects. For more
>>>information about strontium for treating osteoporosis, please visit
>>>Strontium For Bones at * strontiumforbones.blogspot . com /. My
>>>blog offers visitors discussions, information, and links which will be
>>>updated periodically.
>>
>>
>>
>> As I am presently taking strontium ranelate under a doctor's
>> supervision I note a number of differences in what is stated on the
>> Blog spot and what my doctor discussed with me.
>>
>> Calcium - The blog specifically mentions taking 1200 MG of calcium
>> daily. My doctor advises me that if serum calcium levels are in the
>> high normal range then the body cannot process additional calcium.
>Exactly
>>
>> Vitamin D3 - The blog specifically mentions taking D3 daily. My doctor
>> advises that providing D3 is being normally manufactured by the body
>> there is no requirement for additional supplements
>Exactly
>>
>> Magnesium - The blog specifically mentions taking Magnesium daily. My
>> doctor advises that is serum levels of magnesium are normal no
>> additional magnesium is required.
>>
>> Finally the blog spot loads erratically so I tried
>> * strontiumforbones . com / which appears to be much the same
>> information for strontium except that it appears to be an
>> advertizement for the sale of strontium capsules by an organization
>> named "Relentless Improvement", "Premium-Quality Nutriceuticals"
>>
>>
>> Bruce-in-Bangkok
>> (correct email address for reply)
>
>A good reason to take any supplement or alternative advice given here
>with a grain of salt, and a good reason to see a good endocrinologist if
>you have osteoporosis or osteopenia ... to get a complete workup and
>find out exactly what supplements you need to take so you take no more
>and no less than you need.
>
>Larry
Unfortunately, in a sense,I have been consulting the same doctor for
nearly 20 years. Prior to my retirement the clinic was my company's
medical advisor and they still treat several of the original
management staff. When a problem develops my doctor is prepared to
discuss all aspects of the treatment as well as any alternate
treatments and to consult if she feels it advisable. I don't seem to
have many of the patient/doctor problems that I read about in the
group.
Bruce-in-Bangkok
(correct email address for reply)
On Apr 23, 6:34 pm, Bruce in Bangkok <b*paige*125@g*mail . com > wrote:
> On Wed, 23 Apr 2008 08:51:51 -0700 (PDT), BoneLady
>
> <srsuppor...@gmail . com > wrote:
> >Are you interested in an alternative to prescription drugs for
> >osteoporosis? Strontium builds stronger bones than drugs like Fosamax,
> >Actonel, or Boniva but without the dangerous side effects. For more
> >information about strontium for treating osteoporosis, please visit
> >Strontium For Bones at * strontiumforbones.blogspot . com /. My
> >blog offers visitors discussions, information, and links which will be
> >updated periodically.
>
> As I am presently taking strontium ranelate under a doctor's
> supervision I note a number of differences in what is stated on the
> Blog spot and what my doctor discussed with me.
>
> Calcium - The blog specifically mentions taking 1200 MG of calcium
> daily. My doctor advises me that if serum calcium levels are in the
> high normal range then the body cannot process additional calcium.
>
> Vitamin D3 - The blog specifically mentions taking D3 daily. My doctor
> advises that providing D3 is being normally manufactured by the body
> there is no requirement for additional supplements
You have a far better chance of getting enough sun in your
part of the world than in say Canada or the northern trier
states of the lower 48 states of USA.
Still the only way to be absolutely sure
is to test, of course, you may judge that not to be
cost effective.
>
> Magnesium - The blog specifically mentions taking Magnesium daily. My
> doctor advises that is serum levels of magnesium are normal no
> additional magnesium is required.
I'd be less sure of this than your doctor is.
>
> Finally the blog spot loads erratically so I tried * strontiumforbones=
. com /which appears to be much the same
> information for strontium except that it appears to be an
> advertizement for the sale of strontium capsules by an organization
> named "Relentless Improvement", "Premium-Quality Nutriceuticals"
And yes it was spam, I think it got it start spamming for
customers on the Usenet, if that is who was posting it.
Still the grey market strontium citrate supplements are likely
helpful, if strontium ranelate prescription form are helpful.
The prescription form has company to press for
it use. But that proves nothing other than the
company knows how to sneer and fight legal
and political battles.
choose
>
> Bruce-in-Bangkok
> (correct email address for reply)
Larry is right on the need for a good workup of
the endocrine system. Unfortunately, most
endos aren't that good if replacing the needed
hormones i.e. testosterone, LH by way of the analog
HCG and will instead just use a bisphosphonate
or the rPTH.
> On Wed, 23 Apr 2008 08:51:51 -0700 (PDT), BoneLady
>
> <srsuppor...@gmail . com > wrote:
> >Are you interested in an alternative to prescription drugs for
> >osteoporosis? Strontium builds stronger bones than drugs like Fosamax,
> >Actonel, or Boniva but without the dangerous side effects. For more
> >information about strontium for treating osteoporosis, please visit
> >Strontium For Bones at * strontiumforbones.blogspot . com /. My
> >blog offers visitors discussions, information, and links which will be
> >updated periodically.
>
> As I am presently taking strontium ranelate under a doctor's
> supervision I note a number of differences in what is stated on the
> Blog spot and what my doctor discussed with me.
>
> Calcium - The blog specifically mentions taking 1200 MG of calcium
> daily. My doctor advises me that if serum calcium levels are in the
> high normal range then the body cannot process additional calcium.
>
> Vitamin D3 - The blog specifically mentions taking D3 daily. My doctor
> advises that providing D3 is being normally manufactured by the body
> there is no requirement for additional supplements
You have a far better chance of getting enough sun in your
part of the world than in say Canada or the northern trier
states of the lower 48 states of USA.
Still the only way to be absolutely sure
is to test, of course, you may judge that not to be
cost effective.
>
> Magnesium - The blog specifically mentions taking Magnesium daily. My
> doctor advises that is serum levels of magnesium are normal no
> additional magnesium is required.
I'd be less sure of this than your doctor is.
>
> Finally the blog spot loads erratically so I tried * strontiumforbones=
. com /which appears to be much the same
> information for strontium except that it appears to be an
> advertizement for the sale of strontium capsules by an organization
> named "Relentless Improvement", "Premium-Quality Nutriceuticals"
And yes it was spam, I think it got it start spamming for
customers on the Usenet, if that is who was posting it.
Still the grey market strontium citrate supplements are likely
helpful, if strontium ranelate prescription form are helpful.
The prescription form has company to press for
it use. But that proves nothing other than the
company knows how to sneer and fight legal
and political battles.
choose
>
> Bruce-in-Bangkok
> (correct email address for reply)
Larry is right on the need for a good workup of
the endocrine system. Unfortunately, most
endos aren't that good if replacing the needed
hormones i.e. testosterone, LH by way of the analog
HCG and will instead just use a bisphosphonate
or the rPTH.
Bruce in Bangkok wrote:
> On Wed, 23 Apr 2008 08:51:51 -0700 (PDT), BoneLady
> <srsupporter@gmail . com > wrote:
>
>> Are you interested in an alternative to prescription drugs for
>> osteoporosis? Strontium builds stronger bones than drugs like Fosamax,
>> Actonel, or Boniva but without the dangerous side effects. For more
>> information about strontium for treating osteoporosis, please visit
>> Strontium For Bones at * strontiumforbones.blogspot . com /. My
>> blog offers visitors discussions, information, and links which will be
>> updated periodically.
>
>
> As I am presently taking strontium ranelate under a doctor's
> supervision I note a number of differences in what is stated on the
> Blog spot and what my doctor discussed with me.
>
> Calcium - The blog specifically mentions taking 1200 MG of calcium
> daily. My doctor advises me that if serum calcium levels are in the
> high normal range then the body cannot process additional calcium.
Most Americans get plenty of calcium. The USA consumption of calcium is
higher than most other places in the world and we have more osteoporosis
than most of the world. While calcium is very important, it is less
likely that one is deficient.
As to blood work, when I take a LOT of calcium citrate, my blood work
shows no change. Perhaps I'm excreeting it somehow the excess is being
placed in bone.
> Vitamin D3 - The blog specifically mentions taking D3 daily. My doctor
> advises that providing D3 is being normally manufactured by the body
> there is no requirement for additional supplements
If you lived in the tropics and didn't were hardly any cloths most of
the time, this would be true. In the USA, the majority of Americans are
vitamin D deficient, even people living in Miami with an outdoor
lifestyle. In the USA, cancer rates increase and one moves north. This
is true of cardiovascular disease and many others. Vitamin D
supplementation is almost necessary for everyone in the USA. The only
way to know your vitamin D status is to get some blood work done. I
take 7000 IU per day and my blood results are mid normal, 62 in a lab
reference range of 32-100.
> Magnesium - The blog specifically mentions taking Magnesium daily. My
> doctor advises that is serum levels of magnesium are normal no
> additional magnesium is required.
The majority of Americans are magnesium deficient. Your mileage may
vary. Blood levels are not accurate for this - cellular levels are more
important.
Vitamin K I believe is critical in for good bone formation as well. If
you are low on K, calcium builds up in other parts of the body.
--
Pramesh Rutaji
p297tongue6221@newsguy . com - remove tongue to reply
> On Wed, 23 Apr 2008 08:51:51 -0700 (PDT), BoneLady
> <srsupporter@gmail . com > wrote:
>
>> Are you interested in an alternative to prescription drugs for
>> osteoporosis? Strontium builds stronger bones than drugs like Fosamax,
>> Actonel, or Boniva but without the dangerous side effects. For more
>> information about strontium for treating osteoporosis, please visit
>> Strontium For Bones at * strontiumforbones.blogspot . com /. My
>> blog offers visitors discussions, information, and links which will be
>> updated periodically.
>
>
> As I am presently taking strontium ranelate under a doctor's
> supervision I note a number of differences in what is stated on the
> Blog spot and what my doctor discussed with me.
>
> Calcium - The blog specifically mentions taking 1200 MG of calcium
> daily. My doctor advises me that if serum calcium levels are in the
> high normal range then the body cannot process additional calcium.
Most Americans get plenty of calcium. The USA consumption of calcium is
higher than most other places in the world and we have more osteoporosis
than most of the world. While calcium is very important, it is less
likely that one is deficient.
As to blood work, when I take a LOT of calcium citrate, my blood work
shows no change. Perhaps I'm excreeting it somehow the excess is being
placed in bone.
> Vitamin D3 - The blog specifically mentions taking D3 daily. My doctor
> advises that providing D3 is being normally manufactured by the body
> there is no requirement for additional supplements
If you lived in the tropics and didn't were hardly any cloths most of
the time, this would be true. In the USA, the majority of Americans are
vitamin D deficient, even people living in Miami with an outdoor
lifestyle. In the USA, cancer rates increase and one moves north. This
is true of cardiovascular disease and many others. Vitamin D
supplementation is almost necessary for everyone in the USA. The only
way to know your vitamin D status is to get some blood work done. I
take 7000 IU per day and my blood results are mid normal, 62 in a lab
reference range of 32-100.
> Magnesium - The blog specifically mentions taking Magnesium daily. My
> doctor advises that is serum levels of magnesium are normal no
> additional magnesium is required.
The majority of Americans are magnesium deficient. Your mileage may
vary. Blood levels are not accurate for this - cellular levels are more
important.
Vitamin K I believe is critical in for good bone formation as well. If
you are low on K, calcium builds up in other parts of the body.
--
Pramesh Rutaji
p297tongue6221@newsguy . com - remove tongue to reply
On Apr 23, 9:34 pm, Bruce in Bangkok <b*paige*125@g*mail . com > wrote:
> On Wed, 23 Apr 2008 08:51:51 -0700 (PDT), BoneLady
>
> <srsuppor...@gmail . com > wrote:
> >Are you interested in an alternative to prescription drugs for
> >osteoporosis? Strontium builds stronger bones than drugs like Fosamax,
> >Actonel, or Boniva but without the dangerous side effects. For more
> >information about strontium for treating osteoporosis, please visit
> >Strontium For Bones at > * strontiumforbones.blogspot . com /. My
> >blog offers visitors discussions, information, and links which will be
> >updated periodically.
>
> As I am presently taking strontium ranelate under a doctor's
> supervision I note a number of differences in what is stated on the
> Blog spot and what my doctor discussed with me.
>
> Calcium - The blog specifically mentions taking 1200 MG of calcium
> daily. My doctor advises me that if serum calcium levels are in the
> high normal range then the body cannot process additional calcium.
>
> Vitamin D3 - The blog specifically mentions taking D3 daily. My doctor
> advises that providing D3 is being normally manufactured by the body
> there is no requirement for additional supplements
>
> Magnesium - The blog specifically mentions taking Magnesium daily. My
> doctor advises that is serum levels of magnesium are normal no
> additional magnesium is required.
>
> Finally the blog spot loads erratically so I tried * strontiumforbones=
. com /which appears to be much the same
> information for strontium except that it appears to be an
> advertizement for the sale of strontium capsules by an organization
> named "Relentless Improvement", "Premium-Quality Nutriceuticals"
>
> Bruce-in-Bangkok
I have absolutely nothing to do with * strontiumforbones . com /,nor
was I even aware of its existence. BoneLady at
* strontiumforbones.blogspot . com /.
> On Wed, 23 Apr 2008 08:51:51 -0700 (PDT), BoneLady
>
> <srsuppor...@gmail . com > wrote:
> >Are you interested in an alternative to prescription drugs for
> >osteoporosis? Strontium builds stronger bones than drugs like Fosamax,
> >Actonel, or Boniva but without the dangerous side effects. For more
> >information about strontium for treating osteoporosis, please visit
> >Strontium For Bones at > * strontiumforbones.blogspot . com /. My
> >blog offers visitors discussions, information, and links which will be
> >updated periodically.
>
> As I am presently taking strontium ranelate under a doctor's
> supervision I note a number of differences in what is stated on the
> Blog spot and what my doctor discussed with me.
>
> Calcium - The blog specifically mentions taking 1200 MG of calcium
> daily. My doctor advises me that if serum calcium levels are in the
> high normal range then the body cannot process additional calcium.
>
> Vitamin D3 - The blog specifically mentions taking D3 daily. My doctor
> advises that providing D3 is being normally manufactured by the body
> there is no requirement for additional supplements
>
> Magnesium - The blog specifically mentions taking Magnesium daily. My
> doctor advises that is serum levels of magnesium are normal no
> additional magnesium is required.
>
> Finally the blog spot loads erratically so I tried * strontiumforbones=
. com /which appears to be much the same
> information for strontium except that it appears to be an
> advertizement for the sale of strontium capsules by an organization
> named "Relentless Improvement", "Premium-Quality Nutriceuticals"
>
> Bruce-in-Bangkok
I have absolutely nothing to do with * strontiumforbones . com /,nor
was I even aware of its existence. BoneLady at
* strontiumforbones.blogspot . com /.
On Apr 23, 9:34 pm, Bruce in Bangkok <b*paige*125@g*mail . com > wrote:
> On Wed, 23 Apr 2008 08:51:51 -0700 (PDT), BoneLady
>
> <srsuppor...@gmail . com > wrote:
> >Are you interested in an alternative to prescription drugs for
> >osteoporosis? Strontium builds stronger bones than drugs like Fosamax,
> >Actonel, or Boniva but without the dangerous side effects. For more
> >information about strontium for treating osteoporosis, please visit
> >Strontium For Bones at * strontiumforbones.blogspot . com /. My
> >blog offers visitors discussions, information, and links which will be
> >updated periodically.
>
> As I am presently taking strontium ranelate under a doctor's
> supervision I note a number of differences in what is stated on the
> Blog spot and what my doctor discussed with me.
>
> Calcium - The blog specifically mentions taking 1200 MG of calcium
> daily. My doctor advises me that if serum calcium levels are in the
> high normal range then the body cannot process additional calcium.
>
> Vitamin D3 - The blog specifically mentions taking D3 daily. My doctor
> advises that providing D3 is being normally manufactured by the body
> there is no requirement for additional supplements
>
> Magnesium - The blog specifically mentions taking Magnesium daily. My
> doctor advises that is serum levels of magnesium are normal no
> additional magnesium is required.
>
> Finally the blog spot loads erratically so I tried * strontiumforbones=
. com /which appears to be much the same
> information for strontium except that it appears to be an
> advertizement for the sale of strontium capsules by an organization
> named "Relentless Improvement", "Premium-Quality Nutriceuticals"
>
> Bruce-in-Bangkok
> (correct email address for reply)
My blog at * strontiumforbones.blogspot . com is non-commercial and
is NOT associated with the commercial site, w w w .strontiumforbones . com .
My blog carries no ads and is strictly for info and the promotion of
non-prescription strontium.
> On Wed, 23 Apr 2008 08:51:51 -0700 (PDT), BoneLady
>
> <srsuppor...@gmail . com > wrote:
> >Are you interested in an alternative to prescription drugs for
> >osteoporosis? Strontium builds stronger bones than drugs like Fosamax,
> >Actonel, or Boniva but without the dangerous side effects. For more
> >information about strontium for treating osteoporosis, please visit
> >Strontium For Bones at * strontiumforbones.blogspot . com /. My
> >blog offers visitors discussions, information, and links which will be
> >updated periodically.
>
> As I am presently taking strontium ranelate under a doctor's
> supervision I note a number of differences in what is stated on the
> Blog spot and what my doctor discussed with me.
>
> Calcium - The blog specifically mentions taking 1200 MG of calcium
> daily. My doctor advises me that if serum calcium levels are in the
> high normal range then the body cannot process additional calcium.
>
> Vitamin D3 - The blog specifically mentions taking D3 daily. My doctor
> advises that providing D3 is being normally manufactured by the body
> there is no requirement for additional supplements
>
> Magnesium - The blog specifically mentions taking Magnesium daily. My
> doctor advises that is serum levels of magnesium are normal no
> additional magnesium is required.
>
> Finally the blog spot loads erratically so I tried * strontiumforbones=
. com /which appears to be much the same
> information for strontium except that it appears to be an
> advertizement for the sale of strontium capsules by an organization
> named "Relentless Improvement", "Premium-Quality Nutriceuticals"
>
> Bruce-in-Bangkok
> (correct email address for reply)
My blog at * strontiumforbones.blogspot . com is non-commercial and
is NOT associated with the commercial site, w w w .strontiumforbones . com .
My blog carries no ads and is strictly for info and the promotion of
non-prescription strontium.
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