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open source software for texture analysis

Reply from: Alberto Cremonesi
Date: 21 Mar 2007, 11:10
open source software for texture analysis



Dear Users,

I am very glad to inform you that KeyresCF product for texture
analysis and features extraction is now a Open Source Project.

The full version is now freely available for download at the
following link:

* w w w .keyres-technologies . com /product1.html

Sincerely,

Alberto Cremonesi



Software Engineer
KeyRes Technologies
P.le Roberto Ardig̣, 42
00142 Roma (Italy)

mailto:info@keyres-technologies . com
* w w w .keyres-technologies . com /




Reply from: Pixel.to.life
Date: 17 Apr 2007, 08:55
Re: open source software for texture analysis

On Mar 21, 3:10 am, "Alberto Cremonesi" <i...@keyres-technologies . com >
wrote:
> Dear Users,
>
> I am very glad to inform you that KeyresCF product for texture
> analysis and features extraction is now a Open Source Project.
>
> The full version is now freely available for download at the
> following link:
>
> * w w w .keyres-technologies . com /product1.html
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Alberto Cremonesi
>
> Software Engineer
> KeyRes Technologies
> P.le Roberto Ardigò, 42
> 00142 Roma (Italy)
>
> mailto:i...@keyres-technologies . com * w w w .keyres-technologies . com /

Good job, Alberto.
We need more such opensource efforts.

Keep it up!

-P.
[ * groups.google . com /group/medicalimagingscience?hl=en ]


Reply from: MrAsm
Date: 21 Jun 2007, 16:31
Re: open source software for texture analysis

On 16 Apr 2007 23:55:38 -0700, "Pixel.to.life"
<pixel.to.life@gmail . com > wrote:

>> I am very glad to inform you that KeyresCF product for texture
>> analysis and features extraction is now a Open Source Project.
>>
>> The full version is now freely available for download at the
>> following link:
>>
>> * w w w .keyres-technologies . com /product1.html

Where is the source code archive file to download?
Please provide a direct link, thanks.

MrAsm

Reply from: Alberto Cremonesi
Date: 21 Jun 2007, 17:02
Re: open source software for texture analysis


"MrAsm" <mrasm@usa . com > ha scritto nel messaggio :

> On 16 Apr 2007 23:55:38 -0700, "Pixel.to.life"
> <pixel.to.life@gmail . com > wrote:
>
>>> I am very glad to inform you that KeyresCF product for texture
>>> analysis and features extraction is now a Open Source Project.
>>>
>>> The full version is now freely available for download at the
>>> following link:
>>>
>>> * w w w .keyres-technologies . com /product1.html
>
> Where is the source code archive file to download?
> Please provide a direct link, thanks.
>
> MrAsm

just following the link: "Download version for Windows NT/2000/XP" ?


A.




Reply from: MrAsm
Date: 21 Jun 2007, 22:07
Re: open source software for texture analysis

On Thu, 21 Jun 2007 17:02:01 +0200, "Alberto Cremonesi"
<alberto@italy . it > wrote:


>> Where is the source code archive file to download?
>> Please provide a direct link, thanks.
>>
>> MrAsm
>
>just following the link: "Download version for Windows NT/2000/XP" ?

Thanks for your reply.
But it requires data for registration.
I would simply like to download, as for ordinary *open source*
software...

Thanks,
MrAsm

Reply from: Walter Roberson
Date: 21 Jun 2007, 22:12
Re: open source software for texture analysis

In article <mfml73di8mqq01jlspkvu69gi5hvie5sma@4ax . com >,
MrAsm <mrasm@usa . com > wrote:

>Thanks for your reply.
>But it requires data for registration.
>I would simply like to download, as for ordinary *open source*
>software...


"open source" has numerous meanings, but none of the ones I
have encountered has been inconsistent with requesting registration
before downloading.

The poster did not, in what I looked at, appear to say which
open source license was used.
--
"It is important to remember that when it comes to law, computers
never make copies, only human beings make copies. Computers are given
commands, not permission. Only people can be given permission."
-- Brad Templeton

Reply from: MrAsm
Date: 22 Jun 2007, 10:33
Re: open source software for texture analysis

On Thu, 21 Jun 2007 20:12:57 +0000 (UTC), roberson@ibd.nrc-cnrc.gc.ca
(Walter Roberson) wrote:

>"open source" has numerous meanings, but none of the ones I
>have encountered has been inconsistent with requesting registration
>before downloading.

The meaning of open source that I like is: there are the sources, you
are free to download/read/study/modify/copy/compile them.

The registration before downloading must be optional, IMHO.

However, you are right that "open source" is very ambiguous...

MrAsm

Reply from: Alberto Cremonesi
Date: 22 Jun 2007, 11:43
Re: open source software for texture analysis


"MrAsm" <mrasm@usa . com > ha scritto nel messaggio :


> The meaning of open source that I like is: there are the sources, you
> are free to download/read/study/modify/copy/compile them.
>
> The registration before downloading must be optional, IMHO.
>
> However, you are right that "open source" is very ambiguous...


Open source just means that you have the possibility to access
the source files.
In order to agree with the GNU general license it is reasonable
that you give at least your name and e-mail address.

Which is the problem ?




Reply from: Alberto Cremonesi
Date: 22 Jun 2007, 11:37
Re: open source software for texture analysis


"Walter Roberson" <roberson@ibd.nrc-cnrc.gc.ca> ha scritto nel messaggio :

> The poster did not, in what I looked at, appear to say which
> open source license was used.

The software is Open Source under GNU general license.

(when you run the program the GNU license text is reported).





Reply from: MrAsm
Date: 22 Jun 2007, 13:32
Re: open source software for texture analysis

On Fri, 22 Jun 2007 11:37:01 +0200, "Alberto Cremonesi"
<alberto@italy . it > wrote:

>> The poster did not, in what I looked at, appear to say which
>> open source license was used.
>
>The software is Open Source under GNU general license.
>
>(when you run the program the GNU license text is reported).

If it would be GPL, you should not require registration (even if for
free).

* w w w .fsf.org/licensing/essays/free-sw.html

<cite>
Being free to do these things means (among other things) that you do
not have to ask or pay for permission.
</cite>

MrAsm

Reply from: Walter Roberson
Date: 22 Jun 2007, 15:00
Re: open source software for texture analysis

In article <dncn739ainqj0ebts894pbolu8j5ke0k6l@4ax . com >,
MrAsm <mrasm@usa . com > wrote:

>If it would be GPL, you should not require registration (even if for
>free).

> * w w w .fsf.org/licensing/essays/free-sw.html

><cite>
>Being free to do these things means (among other things) that you do
>not have to ask or pay for permission.
></cite>

<cite>
You may have paid money to get copies of free software, or you may have
obtained copies at no charge.
</cite>

<cite>
Another group has started using the term "open source" to mean something
close (but not identical) to "free software". We prefer the term "free software"
because, once you have heard it refers to freedom rather than price, it calls to
mind freedom.
</cite>

<cite>
`Free software'' is a matter of liberty, not price. To understand the concept,
you should think of ``free'' as in ``free speech,'' not as in ``free beer.''
</cite>


Thus, numerous times the essay you refer to indicates that it is OK to
charge money for access. That is inconsistent with your position that
you are (in your humble opinion) entitled to a direct unfettered link to
the software.

<cite>
A program is free software if users have all of these freedoms. Thus,
you should be free to redistribute copies, either with or without
modifications, either gratis or charging a fee for distribution, to
anyone anywhere. Being free to do these things means (among other
things) that you do not have to ask or pay for permission.
</cite>

Read that carefully. You are not a "user" of the software, entitled to
those freedoms, until you already have access to the source (or binary).
You don't need to ask permission to do those things to copies *once you
have a copy of your own*. But you aren't -entitled- to get your
copy for free. Right from the very first GNU license there has always
been provision for shipping and handling charges for example.
--
All is vanity. -- Ecclesiastes

Reply from: MrAsm
Date: 22 Jun 2007, 17:00
Re: open source software for texture analysis

On Fri, 22 Jun 2007 13:00:53 +0000 (UTC), roberson@ibd.nrc-cnrc.gc.ca
(Walter Roberson) wrote:

>In article <dncn739ainqj0ebts894pbolu8j5ke0k6l@4ax . com >,
>MrAsm <mrasm@usa . com > wrote:
>
>>If it would be GPL, you should not require registration (even if for
>>free).
>
>> * w w w .fsf.org/licensing/essays/free-sw.html
>


>You don't need to ask permission to do those things to copies *once you
>have a copy of your own*. But you aren't -entitled- to get your
>copy for free. Right from the very first GNU license there has always
>been provision for shipping and handling charges for example.


I'm not a lawyer, but the essay is clear here:

<cite>
A program is free software if users have all of these freedoms. Thus,
you should be free to redistribute copies, either with or without
modifications, either gratis or charging a fee for distribution, to
anyone anywhere. Being free to do these things means (among other
things) that you do not have to ask or pay for permission.

You should also have the freedom to make modifications and use them
privately in your own work or play, without even mentioning that they
exist. If you do publish your changes, you should not be required to
notify anyone in particular, or in any particular way.
</cite>

So, once I have the source code, I can freely modify it without asking
permission to the original author, and I can also freely distribute it
to friend or others.

(Of course, the author of a software is free to choose whatever
licensing option he likes, but GPL is GPL.)

MrAsm

Reply from: Walter Roberson
Date: 22 Jun 2007, 20:39
Re: open source software for texture analysis

In article <ckon739esc7po8rg2aklipmru1j3iit49r@4ax . com >,
MrAsm <mrasm@usa . com > wrote:

>So, once I have the source code, I can freely modify it without asking
>permission to the original author, and I can also freely distribute it
>to friend or others.

Yes, for the GPL license, that is correct. Once you have the source.
But the author is entitled to place an encumberance (registration,
payment if they wish) upon obtaining the source in the first place.
If you do follow through and register and pay whatever fee is required,
you can then redistribute the source on your own terms (as long
as you don't change the license).

The author posted further expressing an interest in requiring
registration so that the [direct] downloaders explicitly acknowledge
acceptance of the open-source license. That would implicitly include
acceptance of the "NO WARRANTY" provisions of it, thus protecting
the organization from potential damage claims from those who might
perhaps choose to pressure the authors for software fixes.

What the author did not express here, but what I have seen as a factor
in other locations, is that when work is funded in all or in part
by a grant, it is not uncommon for the granters to request evidence
that the resulting work was in fact worth funding, as demonstrated by
a wide list of downloaders / registrants.
--
All is vanity. -- Ecclesiastes

Reply from: MrAsm
Date: 23 Jun 2007, 12:39
Re: open source software for texture analysis

On Fri, 22 Jun 2007 18:39:44 +0000 (UTC), roberson@ibd.nrc-cnrc.gc.ca
(Walter Roberson) wrote:

>In article <ckon739esc7po8rg2aklipmru1j3iit49r@4ax . com >,
>MrAsm <mrasm@usa . com > wrote:
>
>>So, once I have the source code, I can freely modify it without asking
>>permission to the original author, and I can also freely distribute it
>>to friend or others.
>
>Yes, for the GPL license, that is correct. Once you have the source.
>But the author is entitled to place an encumberance (registration,
>payment if they wish) upon obtaining the source in the first place.
>If you do follow through and register and pay whatever fee is required,
>you can then redistribute the source on your own terms (as long
>as you don't change the license).

Thank you for your explaining.

MrAsm

Reply from: Alberto Cremonesi
Date: 22 Jun 2007, 19:16
Re: GNU general public license

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