Best 21" Rolling Carry-On

Best 21" Rolling Carry-On

I want to purchase a rolling carry-on. Just before I clicked on the
Rick Steves 21-inch Roll-Aboard,

< http :// tinyurl,com /lw8m>

I saw that the comments section for this item at amazon,com states the
bag is in actuality 22" H and that disallows use of this bag as carry-on
on, among other airlines, British Air, Air Canada, etc..

So I went over to the llbean,com web site, usually a manufacturer of
quality luggage, only to find the same problem--22" was the height of
most of their rolling carry-on bags!

Did some airlines just change from 22" or more to 21" recently?

In any case, are there suggestions for a rolling carry-on bag that meets
the requirements of most airlines?

Thanks!

Peer

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Peer wrote:
> I want to purchase a rolling carry-on. Just before I clicked on the
> Rick Steves 21-inch Roll-Aboard,
>
> < http :// tinyurl,com /lw8m>
>
> I saw that the comments section for this item at amazon,com states the
> bag is in actuality 22" H and that disallows use of this bag as carry-on
> on, among other airlines, British Air, Air Canada, etc..
>
> So I went over to the llbean,com web site, usually a manufacturer of
> quality luggage, only to find the same problem--22" was the height of
> most of their rolling carry-on bags!
>
> Did some airlines just change from 22" or more to 21" recently?
>
> In any case, are there suggestions for a rolling carry-on bag that meets
> the requirements of most airlines?
>
> Thanks!
>
> Peer
Each piece of hand baggage may not be larger than 55 x 40 x 20 cm and
may not weigh more than 8 kg. An exception are foldable garment bags.
They count as hand baggage up to a size of 57 x 54 x 15 cm.

55cm = 21.7 inches

I guess a piece of luggage could be 21" or 22" depending whether you
round up or down.

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Tom P <notreallylgogp@freenet.de> wrote:

> Peer wrote:
> > I want to purchase a rolling carry-on. Just before I clicked on the
> > Rick Steves 21-inch Roll-Aboard,
> >
> > < http :// tinyurl,com /lw8m>
> >
> > I saw that the comments section for this item at amazon,com states the
> > bag is in actuality 22" H and that disallows use of this bag as carry-on
> > on, among other airlines, British Air, Air Canada, etc..
> >
> > So I went over to the llbean,com web site, usually a manufacturer of
> > quality luggage, only to find the same problem--22" was the height of
> > most of their rolling carry-on bags!
> >
> > Did some airlines just change from 22" or more to 21" recently?
> >
> > In any case, are there suggestions for a rolling carry-on bag that meets
> > the requirements of most airlines?
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> > Peer
> Each piece of hand baggage may not be larger than 55 x 40 x 20 cm and
> may not weigh more than 8 kg. An exception are foldable garment bags.
> They count as hand baggage up to a size of 57 x 54 x 15 cm.
>
> 55cm = 21.7 inches
>
> I guess a piece of luggage could be 21" or 22" depending whether you
> round up or down.

Note that BA have a weight limit of 23kg for carry-on items.

B;

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Mister Bartlett wrote:
> Tom P <notreallylgogp@freenet.de> wrote:
>
>
>>Peer wrote:
>>
>>>I want to purchase a rolling carry-on. Just before I clicked on the
>>>Rick Steves 21-inch Roll-Aboard,
>>>
>>>< http :// tinyurl,com /lw8m>
>>>
>>>I saw that the comments section for this item at amazon,com states the
>>>bag is in actuality 22" H and that disallows use of this bag as carry-on
>>>on, among other airlines, British Air, Air Canada, etc..
>>>
>>>So I went over to the llbean,com web site, usually a manufacturer of
>>>quality luggage, only to find the same problem--22" was the height of
>>>most of their rolling carry-on bags!
>>>
>>>Did some airlines just change from 22" or more to 21" recently?
>>>
>>>In any case, are there suggestions for a rolling carry-on bag that meets
>>>the requirements of most airlines?
>>>
>>>Thanks!
>>>
>>>Peer
>>
>>Each piece of hand baggage may not be larger than 55 x 40 x 20 cm and
>>may not weigh more than 8 kg. An exception are foldable garment bags.
>>They count as hand baggage up to a size of 57 x 54 x 15 cm.
>>
>>55cm = 21.7 inches
>>
>>I guess a piece of luggage could be 21" or 22" depending whether you
>>round up or down.
>
>
> Note that BA have a weight limit of 23kg for carry-on items.
>
> B;
>
In the cabin??? It sounds insanely dangerous to me. I just checked
their website and yes, it really says 23kg for handluggage, same as for
checked baggage - "and you must be able to lift the bag into the
overhead lockers in the aircraft cabin unaided"

Re: Best 21" Rolling Carry-On

In article <6flpojFc233gU1@mid.individual,net >, Tom P
<notreallylgogp@freenet.de> writes

>In the cabin??? It sounds insanely dangerous to me. I just checked
>their website and yes, it really says 23kg for handluggage, same as for
>checked baggage - "and you must be able to lift the bag into the
>overhead lockers in the aircraft cabin unaided"

It does sound like a lot. At a guess without measuring it, my Samsonite
Oyster case ought to fit in an overhead locker. Being a hard shell case
it's quite heavy even empty. But packed full of clothes for a holiday it
weighs only about 10-11kg.

Perhaps the high weight limit is for people who put camera equipment and
a laptop in this size of case and carry it on. It wouldn't leave much
room for clothes.
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Tom P wrote:

>>
> In the cabin??? It sounds insanely dangerous to me. I just checked
> their website and yes, it really says 23kg for handluggage, same as for
> checked baggage - "and you must be able to lift the bag into the
> overhead lockers in the aircraft cabin unaided"
>
I wonder how strict they are about that? Are flight attendants no
longer available to assist elderly and/or handicapped passengers? What
about able-bodied but short passengers, who can lift the bag but cannot
REACH the overhead bin? (Some of those bins are very high - one of the
occasions when I really miss the two-and-a-half inches I have lost as my
spine compresses with age!)

Re: Best 21" Rolling Carry-On

"EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)" <evgmsop@earthlink,net > wrote in message
news:g751lo02hp5@news4.newsguy,com ...
>
>
> Tom P wrote:
>
>>>
>> In the cabin??? It sounds insanely dangerous to me. I just checked their
>> website and yes, it really says 23kg for handluggage, same as for checked
>> baggage - "and you must be able to lift the bag into the overhead lockers
>> in the aircraft cabin unaided"
>>
> I wonder how strict they are about that? Are flight attendants no longer
> available to assist elderly and/or handicapped passengers? What about
> able-bodied but short passengers, who can lift the bag but cannot REACH
> the overhead bin? (Some of those bins are very high - one of the
> occasions when I really miss the two-and-a-half inches I have lost as my
> spine compresses with age!)


The full statement on the BA website is:

"one standard-sized bag - maximum size of the bag must not exceed 56x45x25cm
(22x17.5x9.85in) (including wheels, pockets and handles). In addition, one
laptop sized bag, handbag or briefcase. A 23kg(51lbs) maximum bag weight
applies and you must be able to lift the bag into the overhead lockers in
the aircraft cabin unaided. NB. Cabin crew will assist customers with
additional needs."
--
JohnT

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JohnT wrote:
> "EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)" <evgmsop@earthlink,net > wrote in message
> news:g751lo02hp5@news4.newsguy,com ...
>>
>>
>> Tom P wrote:
>>
>>>>
>>> In the cabin??? It sounds insanely dangerous to me. I just checked
>>> their website and yes, it really says 23kg for handluggage, same as
>>> for checked baggage - "and you must be able to lift the bag into the
>>> overhead lockers in the aircraft cabin unaided"
>>>
>> I wonder how strict they are about that? Are flight attendants no
>> longer available to assist elderly and/or handicapped passengers?
>> What about able-bodied but short passengers, who can lift the bag but
>> cannot REACH the overhead bin? (Some of those bins are very high -
>> one of the occasions when I really miss the two-and-a-half inches I
>> have lost as my spine compresses with age!)
>
>
> The full statement on the BA website is:
>
> "one standard-sized bag - maximum size of the bag must not exceed
> 56x45x25cm (22x17.5x9.85in) (including wheels, pockets and handles). In
> addition, one laptop sized bag, handbag or briefcase. A 23kg(51lbs)
> maximum bag weight applies and you must be able to lift the bag into the
> overhead lockers in the aircraft cabin unaided. NB. Cabin crew will
> assist customers with additional needs."

Oh well, I didn't realize 23 kg was that heavy - every trip to Europe
has resulted in fewer, lighter bags! Only the first time did I travel
with a solid-frame dress-bag, full-sized suit-case and twenty-inch
carry-on. I wore the formal gown to the Wiener Staatsoper only because
I had it with me, half my wardrobe I never wore at all.... (Amazing how
few "necessary" items proved to be real necessities, even allowing for
something dressy to wear to the opera!)

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EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) wrote:

> I wonder how strict they are about that? Are flight attendants no
> longer available to assist elderly and/or handicapped passengers? What
> about able-bodied but short passengers, who can lift the bag but cannot
> REACH the overhead bin? (Some of those bins are very high - one of the
> occasions when I really miss the two-and-a-half inches I have lost as my
> spine compresses with age!)

You must have missed this on Gadling-
http :// www .gadling,com /2008/07/15/galley-gossip-flight-attendant-pet-peeve-3-you-want-me-to-d/

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Goomba wrote:
> EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) wrote:
>
>> I wonder how strict they are about that? Are flight attendants no
>> longer available to assist elderly and/or handicapped passengers?
>> What about able-bodied but short passengers, who can lift the bag but
>> cannot REACH the overhead bin? (Some of those bins are very high -
>> one of the occasions when I really miss the two-and-a-half inches I
>> have lost as my spine compresses with age!)
>
> You must have missed this on Gadling-
> http :// www .gadling,com /2008/07/15/galley-gossip-flight-attendant-pet-peeve-3-you-want-me-to-d/
>

Why would I have even looked for it? I always check all but one clearly
"carry-on" bag which I have no problem carrying onto the airplane (I
require a wheelchair to get to the gate from check-in). The fact I am
no longer tall enough to reach overhead bins (which have been elevated
by several inches from the height they once were, back when air-travel
was actually enjoyable) seems a legitimate reason for needing help. I
was under the impression flight attendants were PAID to assist
passengers who require assistance, not just to be glorified waitresses,
using the boarding period to catch up on their gossip.

Re: Best 21" Rolling Carry-On

EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) wrote:
>
>
> Goomba wrote:
>> EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) wrote:
>>
>>> I wonder how strict they are about that? Are flight attendants no
>>> longer available to assist elderly and/or handicapped passengers?
>>> What about able-bodied but short passengers, who can lift the bag but
>>> cannot REACH the overhead bin? (Some of those bins are very high -
>>> one of the occasions when I really miss the two-and-a-half inches I
>>> have lost as my spine compresses with age!)
>>
>> You must have missed this on Gadling-
>> http :// www .gadling,com /2008/07/15/galley-gossip-flight-attendant-pet-peeve-3-you-want-me-to-d/
>>
>
> Why would I have even looked for it? I always check all but one clearly
> "carry-on" bag which I have no problem carrying onto the airplane (I
> require a wheelchair to get to the gate from check-in). The fact I am
> no longer tall enough to reach overhead bins (which have been elevated
> by several inches from the height they once were, back when air-travel
> was actually enjoyable) seems a legitimate reason for needing help. I
> was under the impression flight attendants were PAID to assist
> passengers who require assistance, not just to be glorified waitresses,
> using the boarding period to catch up on their gossip.

To quote the rest of the BA website: ..and you must be able to lift the
bag into the overhead lockers in the aircraft cabin unaided. NB. Cabin
crew will assist customers with additional needs."

Meaning YES if like yourself you are a disabled person with special
needs, NO if you are someone who drags a carry-on full of bricks on
board and expects cabin crew to risk injury to themselves and possibly
other passengers heaving it into the overhead bin. Which in any case
raises the question, why does BA tell you to put such heavy hand luggage
in the overhead and not under the seat?

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"Tom P" <tombnbnb@freenet.dd> wrote in message
news:6fmnjcFc52hlU1@mid.individual,net ...
> EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) wrote:
>> <snip>
>>
>> I always check all but one
>> clearly "carry-on" bag which I have no problem carrying onto the airplane
>> (I require a wheelchair to get to the gate from check-in). The fact I am
>> no longer tall enough to reach overhead bins (which have been elevated by
>> several inches from the height they once were, back when air-travel was
>> actually enjoyable) seems a legitimate reason for needing help. I was
>> under the impression flight attendants were PAID to assist passengers who
>> require assistance, not just to be glorified waitresses, using the
>> boarding period to catch up on their gossip.
>
> To quote the rest of the BA website: ..and you must be able to lift the
> bag into the overhead lockers in the aircraft cabin unaided. NB. Cabin
> crew will assist customers with additional needs."
>
> Meaning YES if like yourself you are a disabled person with special needs,
> NO if you are someone who drags a carry-on full of bricks on board and
> expects cabin crew to risk injury to themselves and possibly other
> passengers heaving it into the overhead bin. Which in any case raises the
> question, why does BA tell you to put such heavy hand luggage in the
> overhead and not under the seat?

And suppose the overhead bin door opens in flight -- stressed by all that
weight -- and the heavy but allowed bag falls on somebody's head.

Marianne

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Mimi wrote:

> And suppose the overhead bin door opens in flight -- stressed by all that
> weight -- and the heavy but allowed bag falls on somebody's head.
>
> Marianne
>
>

If the overhead opens due to the weight of bags meeting the weight
restricitons, and someone is injured, then it would seem to be cause for
a liability claim against the carrier.

If the door can't handle 23 Kg for each bag, the airline shouldn't be
telling people they can put a 23 Kg bag there. Passengers can't be
expected to know that they are permitted to bring a 23 Kg bag, but the
door won't hold it.

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mrtravel wrote:
> Mimi wrote:
>
>> And suppose the overhead bin door opens in flight -- stressed by all
>> that weight -- and the heavy but allowed bag falls on somebody's head.
>>
>> Marianne
>>
>
> If the overhead opens due to the weight of bags meeting the weight
> restricitons, and someone is injured, then it would seem to be cause for
> a liability claim against the carrier.

Conversely, if the CC tells passengers to put heavy items under the seat
in front of them for safety reasons, and they disregard this
instruction, isn't the passenger liable?

>
> If the door can't handle 23 Kg for each bag, the airline shouldn't be
> telling people they can put a 23 Kg bag there. Passengers can't be
> expected to know that they are permitted to bring a 23 Kg bag, but the
> door won't hold it.

Or it can simply fall out when someone opens the bin. I recently
witnessed an overhead locker avalanche. The CC had stacked a pile of
glossy magazines in the bin, and then some passengers put their bags and
stuff on top of the pile. During the flight, the whole must have
shifted, because when the bin was opened, the whole lot came sliding
out. Luckily no-one got hurt, but a couple of people in their seats got
hit by flying magazines.

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Tom P wrote:
> EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) wrote:
>>
>>
>> Goomba wrote:
>>> EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) wrote:
>>>
>>>> I wonder how strict they are about that? Are flight attendants no
>>>> longer available to assist elderly and/or handicapped passengers?
>>>> What about able-bodied but short passengers, who can lift the bag
>>>> but cannot REACH the overhead bin? (Some of those bins are very
>>>> high - one of the occasions when I really miss the two-and-a-half
>>>> inches I have lost as my spine compresses with age!)
>>>
>>> You must have missed this on Gadling-
>>> http :// www .gadling,com /2008/07/15/galley-gossip-flight-attendant-pet-peeve-3-you-want-me-to-d/
>>>
>>
>> Why would I have even looked for it? I always check all but one
>> clearly "carry-on" bag which I have no problem carrying onto the
>> airplane (I require a wheelchair to get to the gate from check-in).
>> The fact I am no longer tall enough to reach overhead bins (which have
>> been elevated by several inches from the height they once were, back
>> when air-travel was actually enjoyable) seems a legitimate reason for
>> needing help. I was under the impression flight attendants were PAID
>> to assist passengers who require assistance, not just to be glorified
>> waitresses, using the boarding period to catch up on their gossip.
>
> To quote the rest of the BA website: ..and you must be able to lift the
> bag into the overhead lockers in the aircraft cabin unaided. NB. Cabin
> crew will assist customers with additional needs."
>
> Meaning YES if like yourself you are a disabled person with special
> needs, NO if you are someone who drags a carry-on full of bricks on
> board and expects cabin crew to risk injury to themselves and possibly
> other passengers heaving it into the overhead bin. Which in any case
> raises the question, why does BA tell you to put such heavy hand luggage
> in the overhead and not under the seat?

Probably because it won't FIT under the seat? ;-) I always check my
roll-on bag, whatever its size. (And my carry-on is designed to fit
over the pull-up handle for surface transport at airports and hotels.)