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HILLARY HAS EARNED SOME RESPECT EVEN FROM CONSERVATIVES

Reply from: I am the Tribune
Date: 09 May 2008, 03:51
HILLARY HAS EARNED SOME RESPECT EVEN FROM CONSERVATIVES

Now don't get me wrong I don't think she has a grasp of the truth and
she will say anything to get a vote. But she has proved to be tough as
well as a real hard worker.

Reply from: pinky
Date: 09 May 2008, 05:12
Re: HILLARY HAS EARNED SOME RESPECT EVEN FROM CONSERVATIVES


"I am the Tribune" <TribunusXV@gmail,com > wrote in message
news:60e091d9-8fd8-4d78-a0cc-6e89ab3015b0@z16g2000prn.googlegroups,com ...
> Now don't get me wrong I don't think she has a grasp of the truth and
> she will say anything to get a vote. But she has proved to be tough as
> well as a real hard worker.

Obama has lowered the standards and America likes the "change." We now,
apparently, live in an era where an "intellectual" is defined as a college
student, with little or no practical work or life experience, and the
"elite" is defined by anyone with a degree making over 50K, UNLESS you have
don't have a college degree and make 200k. Then it's back to working class
for you.

Obama. Bad.

pink







Reply from: Wes Penn
Date: 09 May 2008, 05:18
Re: HILLARY HAS EARNED SOME RESPECT EVEN FROM CONSERVATIVES

On May 8, 10:12 pm, "pinky" <pinknebul...@yahoo,com > wrote:
> "I am the Tribune" <Tribunu...@gmail,com > wrote in messagenews:60e091d9-8fd8-4d78-a0cc-6e89ab3015b0@z16g2000prn.googlegroups,com ...
>
> > Now don't get me wrong I don't think she has a grasp of the truth and
> > she will say anything to get a vote. But she has proved to be tough as
> > well as a real hard worker.
>
> Obama has lowered the standards and America likes the "change." We now,
> apparently, live in an era where an "intellectual" is defined as a college
> student, with little or no practical work or life experience, and the
> "elite" is defined by anyone with a degree making over 50K, UNLESS you have
> don't have a college degree and make 200k. Then it's back to working class
> for you.
>
> Obama. Bad.
>
> pink

Hmm a possible president who's articulate, intelligent, got through
college without daddy's money, can state a coherent thought vocally
without stuttering is lowering the standards? Interesting analysis.

Reply from: Cassie
Date: 09 May 2008, 05:36
Re: HILLARY HAS EARNED SOME RESPECT EVEN FROM CONSERVATIVES



not according to almost every conservative I know. most of them
can't stand the sight of her.


Reply from: I am the Tribune
Date: 09 May 2008, 05:49
Re: HILLARY HAS EARNED SOME RESPECT EVEN FROM CONSERVATIVES

On May 8, 8:18 pm, Wes Penn <wespen...@gmail,com > wrote:
> On May 8, 10:12 pm, "pinky" <pinknebul...@yahoo,com > wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > "I am the Tribune" <Tribunu...@gmail,com > wrote in messagenews:60e091d9-8fd8-4d78-a0cc-6e89ab3015b0@z16g2000prn.googlegroups,com ...
>
> > > Now don't get me wrong I don't think she has a grasp of the truth and
> > > she will say anything to get a vote. But she has proved to be tough as
> > > well as a real hard worker.
>
> > Obama has lowered the standards and America likes the "change."  We now,
> > apparently, live in an era where an "intellectual" is defined as a college
> > student, with little or no practical work or life experience, and the
> > "elite" is defined by anyone with a degree making over 50K, UNLESS you have
> > don't have a college degree and make 200k.  Then it's back to working class
> > for you.
>
> > Obama.  Bad.
>
> > pink
>
> Hmm   a possible president who's articulate, intelligent, got through
> college without daddy's money, can state a coherent thought vocally
> without stuttering is lowering the standards?   Interesting analysis.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -


Who has done nothing except yell for change and say yes we can. The
great change he will bring is drivers licenses for illegals, great
change.

Reply from: pinky
Date: 09 May 2008, 05:59
Re: HILLARY HAS EARNED SOME RESPECT EVEN FROM CONSERVATIVES


"Wes Penn" <wespenn56@gmail,com > wrote in message
news:258875cc-a0bf-4227-8269-db55e486d063@w7g2000hsa.googlegroups,com ...
> On May 8, 10:12 pm, "pinky" <pinknebul...@yahoo,com > wrote:
>> "I am the Tribune" <Tribunu...@gmail,com > wrote in
>> messagenews:60e091d9-8fd8-4d78-a0cc-6e89ab3015b0@z16g2000prn.googlegroups,com ...
>>
>> > Now don't get me wrong I don't think she has a grasp of the truth and
>> > she will say anything to get a vote. But she has proved to be tough as
>> > well as a real hard worker.
>>
>> Obama has lowered the standards and America likes the "change." We now,
>> apparently, live in an era where an "intellectual" is defined as a
>> college
>> student, with little or no practical work or life experience, and the
>> "elite" is defined by anyone with a degree making over 50K, UNLESS you
>> have
>> don't have a college degree and make 200k. Then it's back to working
>> class
>> for you.
>>
>> Obama. Bad.
>>
>> pink
>
> Hmm a possible president who's articulate, intelligent, got through
> college without daddy's money, can state a coherent thought vocally
> without stuttering is lowering the standards? Interesting analysis.

He's articulate. So what? He delivers speeches and prances around like a
prize-winning peacock. But it's what he says, not how he says it, that
counts. He makes lower standards seem appealing to the masses by empowering
them with empty but eloquent words. That message attracts people who want
an excuse not to work both smart and hard. That's his target market.

Hillary, however, has worked her entire life, possibly toward this goal; she
wasn't born with a silver spoon, either. I find her focused, honest,
forthright and refreshing, while remaining calm under pressure. She's not
talking about changing, she IS changing and leading by example. And as she
tries to "change" things, like getting those delegates seated, so voters
aren't disenfranchised, no one takes notice she's changing and working
before your eyes. No one sees Obama robbing the nomination by
disenfranchising her voters.

Had Hillary not gone to Wellesley, she'd still be right where she is today.

Had Obama not gone to Harvard, he would have sold used cars. Correction: He
would have owned a Certified Pre-owned Mercedes and Lexus dealership.

pink



Reply from: Constitutional American
Date: 09 May 2008, 07:51
Re: HILLARY HAS EARNED SOME RESPECT EVEN FROM CONSERVATIVES

On May 8, 10:59 pm, "pinky" <pinknebul...@yahoo,com > wrote:
> "Wes Penn" <wespen...@gmail,com > wrote in message
>
> news:258875cc-a0bf-4227-8269-db55e486d063@w7g2000hsa.googlegroups,com ...
>
>
>
> > On May 8, 10:12 pm, "pinky" <pinknebul...@yahoo,com > wrote:
> >> "I am the Tribune" <Tribunu...@gmail,com > wrote in
> >> messagenews:60e091d9-8fd8-4d78-a0cc-6e89ab3015b0@z16g2000prn.googlegroups,com ...
>
> >> > Now don't get me wrong I don't think she has a grasp of the truth and
> >> > she will say anything to get a vote. But she has proved to be tough as
> >> > well as a real hard worker.
>
> >> Obama has lowered the standards and America likes the "change." We now,
> >> apparently, live in an era where an "intellectual" is defined as a
> >> college
> >> student, with little or no practical work or life experience, and the
> >> "elite" is defined by anyone with a degree making over 50K, UNLESS you
> >> have
> >> don't have a college degree and make 200k. Then it's back to working
> >> class
> >> for you.
>
> >> Obama. Bad.
>
> >> pink
>
> > Hmm a possible president who's articulate, intelligent, got through
> > college without daddy's money, can state a coherent thought vocally
> > without stuttering is lowering the standards? Interesting analysis.
>
> He's articulate. So what? He delivers speeches and prances around like a
> prize-winning peacock. But it's what he says, not how he says it, that
> counts. He makes lower standards seem appealing to the masses by empowering
> them with empty but eloquent words. That message attracts people who want
> an excuse not to work both smart and hard. That's his target market.
>
> Hillary, however, has worked her entire life, possibly toward this goal; she
> wasn't born with a silver spoon, either. I find her focused, honest,
> forthright and refreshing, while remaining calm under pressure. She's not
> talking about changing, she IS changing and leading by example. And as she
> tries to "change" things, like getting those delegates seated, so voters
> aren't disenfranchised, no one takes notice she's changing and working
> before your eyes. No one sees Obama robbing the nomination by
> disenfranchising her voters.
>
> Had Hillary not gone to Wellesley, she'd still be right where she is today.
>
> Had Obama not gone to Harvard, he would have sold used cars. Correction: He
> would have owned a Certified Pre-owned Mercedes and Lexus dealership.
>
> pink

Interesting .. so now you're psychic too, making predictions of what
could/would be? Nice try, though.

Reply from: pinky
Date: 09 May 2008, 14:03
Re: HILLARY HAS EARNED SOME RESPECT EVEN FROM CONSERVATIVES


"Constitutional American" <wespenn56@gmail,com > wrote in message
news:278d96a4-bab6-44d9-b203-e12b97c01d9e@a70g2000hsh.googlegroups,com ...
> On May 8, 10:59 pm, "pinky" <pinknebul...@yahoo,com > wrote:
>> "Wes Penn" <wespen...@gmail,com > wrote in message
>>
>> news:258875cc-a0bf-4227-8269-db55e486d063@w7g2000hsa.googlegroups,com ...
>>
>>
>>
>> > On May 8, 10:12 pm, "pinky" <pinknebul...@yahoo,com > wrote:
>> >> "I am the Tribune" <Tribunu...@gmail,com > wrote in
>> >> messagenews:60e091d9-8fd8-4d78-a0cc-6e89ab3015b0@z16g2000prn.googlegroups,com ...
>>
>> >> > Now don't get me wrong I don't think she has a grasp of the truth
>> >> > and
>> >> > she will say anything to get a vote. But she has proved to be tough
>> >> > as
>> >> > well as a real hard worker.
>>
>> >> Obama has lowered the standards and America likes the "change." We
>> >> now,
>> >> apparently, live in an era where an "intellectual" is defined as a
>> >> college
>> >> student, with little or no practical work or life experience, and the
>> >> "elite" is defined by anyone with a degree making over 50K, UNLESS you
>> >> have
>> >> don't have a college degree and make 200k. Then it's back to working
>> >> class
>> >> for you.
>>
>> >> Obama. Bad.
>>
>> >> pink
>>
>> > Hmm a possible president who's articulate, intelligent, got through
>> > college without daddy's money, can state a coherent thought vocally
>> > without stuttering is lowering the standards? Interesting analysis.
>>
>> He's articulate. So what? He delivers speeches and prances around like a
>> prize-winning peacock. But it's what he says, not how he says it, that
>> counts. He makes lower standards seem appealing to the masses by
>> empowering
>> them with empty but eloquent words. That message attracts people who
>> want
>> an excuse not to work both smart and hard. That's his target market.
>>
>> Hillary, however, has worked her entire life, possibly toward this goal;
>> she
>> wasn't born with a silver spoon, either. I find her focused, honest,
>> forthright and refreshing, while remaining calm under pressure. She's
>> not
>> talking about changing, she IS changing and leading by example. And as
>> she
>> tries to "change" things, like getting those delegates seated, so voters
>> aren't disenfranchised, no one takes notice she's changing and working
>> before your eyes. No one sees Obama robbing the nomination by
>> disenfranchising her voters.
>>
>> Had Hillary not gone to Wellesley, she'd still be right where she is
>> today.
>>
>> Had Obama not gone to Harvard, he would have sold used cars. Correction:
>> He
>> would have owned a Certified Pre-owned Mercedes and Lexus dealership.
>>
>> pink
>
> Interesting .. so now you're psychic too, making predictions of what
> could/would be? Nice try, though.

Where did I predict? Learn to distinguish between an opinion and a
prediction.

pink




Reply from: Bugman
Date: 09 May 2008, 14:14
Re: HILLARY HAS EARNED SOME RESPECT EVEN FROM CONSERVATIVES


"pinky" <pinknebulous@yahoo,com > wrote in message
news:z4XUj.3190$Hh.211@trndny01...
>
> "Constitutional American" <wespenn56@gmail,com > wrote in message
> news:278d96a4-bab6-44d9-b203-e12b97c01d9e@a70g2000hsh.googlegroups,com ...
>> On May 8, 10:59 pm, "pinky" <pinknebul...@yahoo,com > wrote:
>>> "Wes Penn" <wespen...@gmail,com > wrote in message
>>>
>>> news:258875cc-a0bf-4227-8269-db55e486d063@w7g2000hsa.googlegroups,com ...
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> > On May 8, 10:12 pm, "pinky" <pinknebul...@yahoo,com > wrote:
>>> >> "I am the Tribune" <Tribunu...@gmail,com > wrote in
>>> >> messagenews:60e091d9-8fd8-4d78-a0cc-6e89ab3015b0@z16g2000prn.googlegroups,com ...
>>>
>>> >> > Now don't get me wrong I don't think she has a grasp of the truth
>>> >> > and
>>> >> > she will say anything to get a vote. But she has proved to be tough
>>> >> > as
>>> >> > well as a real hard worker.
>>>
>>> >> Obama has lowered the standards and America likes the "change." We
>>> >> now,
>>> >> apparently, live in an era where an "intellectual" is defined as a
>>> >> college
>>> >> student, with little or no practical work or life experience, and the
>>> >> "elite" is defined by anyone with a degree making over 50K, UNLESS
>>> >> you
>>> >> have
>>> >> don't have a college degree and make 200k. Then it's back to working
>>> >> class
>>> >> for you.
>>>
>>> >> Obama. Bad.
>>>
>>> >> pink
>>>
>>> > Hmm a possible president who's articulate, intelligent, got through
>>> > college without daddy's money, can state a coherent thought vocally
>>> > without stuttering is lowering the standards? Interesting analysis.
>>>
>>> He's articulate. So what? He delivers speeches and prances around like
>>> a
>>> prize-winning peacock. But it's what he says, not how he says it, that
>>> counts. He makes lower standards seem appealing to the masses by
>>> empowering
>>> them with empty but eloquent words. That message attracts people who
>>> want
>>> an excuse not to work both smart and hard. That's his target market.
>>>
>>> Hillary, however, has worked her entire life, possibly toward this goal;
>>> she
>>> wasn't born with a silver spoon, either. I find her focused, honest,
>>> forthright and refreshing, while remaining calm under pressure. She's
>>> not
>>> talking about changing, she IS changing and leading by example. And as
>>> she
>>> tries to "change" things, like getting those delegates seated, so voters
>>> aren't disenfranchised, no one takes notice she's changing and working
>>> before your eyes. No one sees Obama robbing the nomination by
>>> disenfranchising her voters.
>>>
>>> Had Hillary not gone to Wellesley, she'd still be right where she is
>>> today.
>>>
>>> Had Obama not gone to Harvard, he would have sold used cars. Correction:
>>> He
>>> would have owned a Certified Pre-owned Mercedes and Lexus dealership.
>>>
>>> pink
>>
>> Interesting .. so now you're psychic too, making predictions of what
>> could/would be? Nice try, though.
>
> Where did I predict? Learn to distinguish between an opinion and a
> prediction.
>
> pink

A opinion is when you say "I think" he or she might do something. That's not
what you said. Remember the cartoon Pinky and the Brain? Evidently you're
just the Pinky side



Reply from: pinky
Date: 09 May 2008, 15:05
Re: HILLARY HAS EARNED SOME RESPECT EVEN FROM CONSERVATIVES


"Bugman" <jmposing@hotmail,com > wrote in message
news:AqWdnQAZy6bhornVnZ2dnUVZ_s-pnZ2d@giganews,com ...
>
> "pinky" <pinknebulous@yahoo,com > wrote in message
> news:z4XUj.3190$Hh.211@trndny01...
>>
>> "Constitutional American" <wespenn56@gmail,com > wrote in message
>> news:278d96a4-bab6-44d9-b203-e12b97c01d9e@a70g2000hsh.googlegroups,com ...
>>> On May 8, 10:59 pm, "pinky" <pinknebul...@yahoo,com > wrote:
>>>> "Wes Penn" <wespen...@gmail,com > wrote in message
>>>>
>>>> news:258875cc-a0bf-4227-8269-db55e486d063@w7g2000hsa.googlegroups,com ...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> > On May 8, 10:12 pm, "pinky" <pinknebul...@yahoo,com > wrote:
>>>> >> "I am the Tribune" <Tribunu...@gmail,com > wrote in
>>>> >> messagenews:60e091d9-8fd8-4d78-a0cc-6e89ab3015b0@z16g2000prn.googlegroups,com ...
>>>>
>>>> >> > Now don't get me wrong I don't think she has a grasp of the truth
>>>> >> > and
>>>> >> > she will say anything to get a vote. But she has proved to be
>>>> >> > tough as
>>>> >> > well as a real hard worker.
>>>>
>>>> >> Obama has lowered the standards and America likes the "change." We
>>>> >> now,
>>>> >> apparently, live in an era where an "intellectual" is defined as a
>>>> >> college
>>>> >> student, with little or no practical work or life experience, and
>>>> >> the
>>>> >> "elite" is defined by anyone with a degree making over 50K, UNLESS
>>>> >> you
>>>> >> have
>>>> >> don't have a college degree and make 200k. Then it's back to
>>>> >> working
>>>> >> class
>>>> >> for you.
>>>>
>>>> >> Obama. Bad.
>>>>
>>>> >> pink
>>>>
>>>> > Hmm a possible president who's articulate, intelligent, got through
>>>> > college without daddy's money, can state a coherent thought vocally
>>>> > without stuttering is lowering the standards? Interesting analysis.
>>>>
>>>> He's articulate. So what? He delivers speeches and prances around like
>>>> a
>>>> prize-winning peacock. But it's what he says, not how he says it, that
>>>> counts. He makes lower standards seem appealing to the masses by
>>>> empowering
>>>> them with empty but eloquent words. That message attracts people who
>>>> want
>>>> an excuse not to work both smart and hard. That's his target market.
>>>>
>>>> Hillary, however, has worked her entire life, possibly toward this
>>>> goal; she
>>>> wasn't born with a silver spoon, either. I find her focused, honest,
>>>> forthright and refreshing, while remaining calm under pressure. She's
>>>> not
>>>> talking about changing, she IS changing and leading by example. And as
>>>> she
>>>> tries to "change" things, like getting those delegates seated, so
>>>> voters
>>>> aren't disenfranchised, no one takes notice she's changing and working
>>>> before your eyes. No one sees Obama robbing the nomination by
>>>> disenfranchising her voters.
>>>>
>>>> Had Hillary not gone to Wellesley, she'd still be right where she is
>>>> today.
>>>>
>>>> Had Obama not gone to Harvard, he would have sold used cars.
>>>> Correction: He
>>>> would have owned a Certified Pre-owned Mercedes and Lexus dealership.
>>>>
>>>> pink
>>>
>>> Interesting .. so now you're psychic too, making predictions of what
>>> could/would be? Nice try, though.
>>
>> Where did I predict? Learn to distinguish between an opinion and a
>> prediction.
>>
>> pink
>
> A opinion is when you say "I think" he or she might do something. That's
> not what you said. Remember the cartoon Pinky and the Brain? Evidently
> you're just the Pinky side

No, you're obtuse. It's an editorial.

pink



Reply from: Constitutional American
Date: 09 May 2008, 15:13
Re: HILLARY HAS EARNED SOME RESPECT EVEN FROM CONSERVATIVES

On May 9, 7:03 am, "pinky" <pinknebul...@yahoo,com > wrote:
> "Constitutional American" <wespen...@gmail,com > wrote in message
>
> news:278d96a4-bab6-44d9-b203-e12b97c01d9e@a70g2000hsh.googlegroups,com ...
>
>
>
> > On May 8, 10:59 pm, "pinky" <pinknebul...@yahoo,com > wrote:
> >> "Wes Penn" <wespen...@gmail,com > wrote in message
>
> >>news:258875cc-a0bf-4227-8269-db55e486d063@w7g2000hsa.googlegroups,com ...
>
> >> > On May 8, 10:12 pm, "pinky" <pinknebul...@yahoo,com > wrote:
> >> >> "I am the Tribune" <Tribunu...@gmail,com > wrote in
> >> >> messagenews:60e091d9-8fd8-4d78-a0cc-6e89ab3015b0@z16g2000prn.googlegroups,com ...
>
> >> >> > Now don't get me wrong I don't think she has a grasp of the truth
> >> >> > and
> >> >> > she will say anything to get a vote. But she has proved to be tough
> >> >> > as
> >> >> > well as a real hard worker.
>
> >> >> Obama has lowered the standards and America likes the "change." We
> >> >> now,
> >> >> apparently, live in an era where an "intellectual" is defined as a
> >> >> college
> >> >> student, with little or no practical work or life experience, and the
> >> >> "elite" is defined by anyone with a degree making over 50K, UNLESS you
> >> >> have
> >> >> don't have a college degree and make 200k. Then it's back to working
> >> >> class
> >> >> for you.
>
> >> >> Obama. Bad.
>
> >> >> pink
>
> >> > Hmm a possible president who's articulate, intelligent, got through
> >> > college without daddy's money, can state a coherent thought vocally
> >> > without stuttering is lowering the standards? Interesting analysis.
>
> >> He's articulate. So what? He delivers speeches and prances around like a
> >> prize-winning peacock. But it's what he says, not how he says it, that
> >> counts. He makes lower standards seem appealing to the masses by
> >> empowering
> >> them with empty but eloquent words. That message attracts people who
> >> want
> >> an excuse not to work both smart and hard. That's his target market.
>
> >> Hillary, however, has worked her entire life, possibly toward this goal;
> >> she
> >> wasn't born with a silver spoon, either. I find her focused, honest,
> >> forthright and refreshing, while remaining calm under pressure. She's
> >> not
> >> talking about changing, she IS changing and leading by example. And as
> >> she
> >> tries to "change" things, like getting those delegates seated, so voters
> >> aren't disenfranchised, no one takes notice she's changing and working
> >> before your eyes. No one sees Obama robbing the nomination by
> >> disenfranchising her voters.
>
> >> Had Hillary not gone to Wellesley, she'd still be right where she is
> >> today.
>
> >> Had Obama not gone to Harvard, he would have sold used cars. Correction:
> >> He
> >> would have owned a Certified Pre-owned Mercedes and Lexus dealership.
>
> >> pink
>
> > Interesting .. so now you're psychic too, making predictions of what
> > could/would be? Nice try, though.
>
> Where did I predict? Learn to distinguish between an opinion and a
> prediction.
>
> pink

"Had Hillary not gone to Wellesley, she'd still be right where she is
today.

Had Obama not gone to Harvard, he would have sold used cars.
Correction: He
would have owned a Certified Pre-owned Mercedes and Lexus dealership.
"

Looks pretty much like you're predicting there. Nothing noting an
opinion or a thought...seems pretty much a solid prediction. Perhaps
you should learn English syntax.

Reply from: pinky
Date: 09 May 2008, 16:10
Re: HILLARY HAS EARNED SOME RESPECT EVEN FROM CONSERVATIVES


"Constitutional American" <wespenn56@gmail,com > wrote in message
news:35d71fd9-559d-45bf-ac3b-468b0ce5c3a9@r66g2000hsg.googlegroups,com ...
> On May 9, 7:03 am, "pinky" <pinknebul...@yahoo,com > wrote:
>> "Constitutional American" <wespen...@gmail,com > wrote in message
>>
>> news:278d96a4-bab6-44d9-b203-e12b97c01d9e@a70g2000hsh.googlegroups,com ...
>>
>>
>>
>> > On May 8, 10:59 pm, "pinky" <pinknebul...@yahoo,com > wrote:
>> >> "Wes Penn" <wespen...@gmail,com > wrote in message
>>
>> >>news:258875cc-a0bf-4227-8269-db55e486d063@w7g2000hsa.googlegroups,com ...
>>
>> >> > On May 8, 10:12 pm, "pinky" <pinknebul...@yahoo,com > wrote:
>> >> >> "I am the Tribune" <Tribunu...@gmail,com > wrote in
>> >> >> messagenews:60e091d9-8fd8-4d78-a0cc-6e89ab3015b0@z16g2000prn.googlegroups,com ...
>>
>> >> >> > Now don't get me wrong I don't think she has a grasp of the truth
>> >> >> > and
>> >> >> > she will say anything to get a vote. But she has proved to be
>> >> >> > tough
>> >> >> > as
>> >> >> > well as a real hard worker.
>>
>> >> >> Obama has lowered the standards and America likes the "change." We
>> >> >> now,
>> >> >> apparently, live in an era where an "intellectual" is defined as a
>> >> >> college
>> >> >> student, with little or no practical work or life experience, and
>> >> >> the
>> >> >> "elite" is defined by anyone with a degree making over 50K, UNLESS
>> >> >> you
>> >> >> have
>> >> >> don't have a college degree and make 200k. Then it's back to
>> >> >> working
>> >> >> class
>> >> >> for you.
>>
>> >> >> Obama. Bad.
>>
>> >> >> pink
>>
>> >> > Hmm a possible president who's articulate, intelligent, got
>> >> > through
>> >> > college without daddy's money, can state a coherent thought vocally
>> >> > without stuttering is lowering the standards? Interesting
>> >> > analysis.
>>
>> >> He's articulate. So what? He delivers speeches and prances around
>> >> like a
>> >> prize-winning peacock. But it's what he says, not how he says it,
>> >> that
>> >> counts. He makes lower standards seem appealing to the masses by
>> >> empowering
>> >> them with empty but eloquent words. That message attracts people who
>> >> want
>> >> an excuse not to work both smart and hard. That's his target market.
>>
>> >> Hillary, however, has worked her entire life, possibly toward this
>> >> goal;
>> >> she
>> >> wasn't born with a silver spoon, either. I find her focused, honest,
>> >> forthright and refreshing, while remaining calm under pressure. She's
>> >> not
>> >> talking about changing, she IS changing and leading by example. And
>> >> as
>> >> she
>> >> tries to "change" things, like getting those delegates seated, so
>> >> voters
>> >> aren't disenfranchised, no one takes notice she's changing and working
>> >> before your eyes. No one sees Obama robbing the nomination by
>> >> disenfranchising her voters.
>>
>> >> Had Hillary not gone to Wellesley, she'd still be right where she is
>> >> today.
>>
>> >> Had Obama not gone to Harvard, he would have sold used cars.
>> >> Correction:
>> >> He
>> >> would have owned a Certified Pre-owned Mercedes and Lexus dealership.
>>
>> >> pink
>>
>> > Interesting .. so now you're psychic too, making predictions of what
>> > could/would be? Nice try, though.
>>
>> Where did I predict? Learn to distinguish between an opinion and a
>> prediction.
>>
>> pink
>
> "Had Hillary not gone to Wellesley, she'd still be right where she is
> today.
>
> Had Obama not gone to Harvard, he would have sold used cars.
> Correction: He
> would have owned a Certified Pre-owned Mercedes and Lexus dealership.
> "
>
> Looks pretty much like you're predicting there. Nothing noting an
> opinion or a thought...seems pretty much a solid prediction. Perhaps
> you should learn English syntax.

Perhaps you should familiarize yourself with an editorial. The opinion is
implied.

pink



Reply from: Constitutional American
Date: 09 May 2008, 16:42
Re: HILLARY HAS EARNED SOME RESPECT EVEN FROM CONSERVATIVES

On May 9, 9:10 am, "pinky" <pinknebul...@yahoo,com > wrote:
> "Constitutional American" <wespen...@gmail,com > wrote in message
>
> news:35d71fd9-559d-45bf-ac3b-468b0ce5c3a9@r66g2000hsg.googlegroups,com ...
>
>
>
> > On May 9, 7:03 am, "pinky" <pinknebul...@yahoo,com > wrote:
> >> "Constitutional American" <wespen...@gmail,com > wrote in message
>
> >>news:278d96a4-bab6-44d9-b203-e12b97c01d9e@a70g2000hsh.googlegroups,com ...
>
> >> > On May 8, 10:59 pm, "pinky" <pinknebul...@yahoo,com > wrote:
> >> >> "Wes Penn" <wespen...@gmail,com > wrote in message
>
> >> >>news:258875cc-a0bf-4227-8269-db55e486d063@w7g2000hsa.googlegroups,com ...
>
> >> >> > On May 8, 10:12 pm, "pinky" <pinknebul...@yahoo,com > wrote:
> >> >> >> "I am the Tribune" <Tribunu...@gmail,com > wrote in
> >> >> >> messagenews:60e091d9-8fd8-4d78-a0cc-6e89ab3015b0@z16g2000prn.googlegroups,com ...
>
> >> >> >> > Now don't get me wrong I don't think she has a grasp of the truth
> >> >> >> > and
> >> >> >> > she will say anything to get a vote. But she has proved to be
> >> >> >> > tough
> >> >> >> > as
> >> >> >> > well as a real hard worker.
>
> >> >> >> Obama has lowered the standards and America likes the "change." We
> >> >> >> now,
> >> >> >> apparently, live in an era where an "intellectual" is defined as a
> >> >> >> college
> >> >> >> student, with little or no practical work or life experience, and
> >> >> >> the
> >> >> >> "elite" is defined by anyone with a degree making over 50K, UNLESS
> >> >> >> you
> >> >> >> have
> >> >> >> don't have a college degree and make 200k. Then it's back to
> >> >> >> working
> >> >> >> class
> >> >> >> for you.
>
> >> >> >> Obama. Bad.
>
> >> >> >> pink
>
> >> >> > Hmm a possible president who's articulate, intelligent, got
> >> >> > through
> >> >> > college without daddy's money, can state a coherent thought vocally
> >> >> > without stuttering is lowering the standards? Interesting
> >> >> > analysis.
>
> >> >> He's articulate. So what? He delivers speeches and prances around
> >> >> like a
> >> >> prize-winning peacock. But it's what he says, not how he says it,
> >> >> that
> >> >> counts. He makes lower standards seem appealing to the masses by
> >> >> empowering
> >> >> them with empty but eloquent words. That message attracts people who
> >> >> want
> >> >> an excuse not to work both smart and hard. That's his target market.
>
> >> >> Hillary, however, has worked her entire life, possibly toward this
> >> >> goal;
> >> >> she
> >> >> wasn't born with a silver spoon, either. I find her focused, honest,
> >> >> forthright and refreshing, while remaining calm under pressure. She's
> >> >> not
> >> >> talking about changing, she IS changing and leading by example. And
> >> >> as
> >> >> she
> >> >> tries to "change" things, like getting those delegates seated, so
> >> >> voters
> >> >> aren't disenfranchised, no one takes notice she's changing and working
> >> >> before your eyes. No one sees Obama robbing the nomination by
> >> >> disenfranchising her voters.
>
> >> >> Had Hillary not gone to Wellesley, she'd still be right where she is
> >> >> today.
>
> >> >> Had Obama not gone to Harvard, he would have sold used cars.
> >> >> Correction:
> >> >> He
> >> >> would have owned a Certified Pre-owned Mercedes and Lexus dealership.
>
> >> >> pink
>
> >> > Interesting .. so now you're psychic too, making predictions of what
> >> > could/would be? Nice try, though.
>
> >> Where did I predict? Learn to distinguish between an opinion and a
> >> prediction.
>
> >> pink
>
> > "Had Hillary not gone to Wellesley, she'd still be right where she is
> > today.
>
> > Had Obama not gone to Harvard, he would have sold used cars.
> > Correction: He
> > would have owned a Certified Pre-owned Mercedes and Lexus dealership.
> > "
>
> > Looks pretty much like you're predicting there. Nothing noting an
> > opinion or a thought...seems pretty much a solid prediction. Perhaps
> > you should learn English syntax.
>
> Perhaps you should familiarize yourself with an editorial. The opinion is
> implied.
>
> pink

Gotta love it. Right wing cheerleaders even try to weasel out of
their OWN words

Reply from: pinky
Date: 09 May 2008, 16:47
Re: HILLARY HAS EARNED SOME RESPECT EVEN FROM CONSERVATIVES


"Constitutional American" <wespenn56@gmail,com > wrote in message
news:664b034e-85ef-4411-a522-1228ce9a09eb@c65g2000hsa.googlegroups,com ...
> On May 9, 9:10 am, "pinky" <pinknebul...@yahoo,com > wrote:
>> "Constitutional American" <wespen...@gmail,com > wrote in message
>>
>> news:35d71fd9-559d-45bf-ac3b-468b0ce5c3a9@r66g2000hsg.googlegroups,com ...
>>
>>
>>
>> > On May 9, 7:03 am, "pinky" <pinknebul...@yahoo,com > wrote:
>> >> "Constitutional American" <wespen...@gmail,com > wrote in message
>>
>> >>news:278d96a4-bab6-44d9-b203-e12b97c01d9e@a70g2000hsh.googlegroups,com ...
>>
>> >> > On May 8, 10:59 pm, "pinky" <pinknebul...@yahoo,com > wrote:
>> >> >> "Wes Penn" <wespen...@gmail,com > wrote in message
>>
>> >> >>news:258875cc-a0bf-4227-8269-db55e486d063@w7g2000hsa.googlegroups,com ...
>>
>> >> >> > On May 8, 10:12 pm, "pinky" <pinknebul...@yahoo,com > wrote:
>> >> >> >> "I am the Tribune" <Tribunu...@gmail,com > wrote in
>> >> >> >> messagenews:60e091d9-8fd8-4d78-a0cc-6e89ab3015b0@z16g2000prn.googlegroups,com ...
>>
>> >> >> >> > Now don't get me wrong I don't think she has a grasp of the
>> >> >> >> > truth
>> >> >> >> > and
>> >> >> >> > she will say anything to get a vote. But she has proved to be
>> >> >> >> > tough
>> >> >> >> > as
>> >> >> >> > well as a real hard worker.
>>
>> >> >> >> Obama has lowered the standards and America likes the "change."
>> >> >> >> We
>> >> >> >> now,
>> >> >> >> apparently, live in an era where an "intellectual" is defined as
>> >> >> >> a
>> >> >> >> college
>> >> >> >> student, with little or no practical work or life experience,
>> >> >> >> and
>> >> >> >> the
>> >> >> >> "elite" is defined by anyone with a degree making over 50K,
>> >> >> >> UNLESS
>> >> >> >> you
>> >> >> >> have
>> >> >> >> don't have a college degree and make 200k. Then it's back to
>> >> >> >> working
>> >> >> >> class
>> >> >> >> for you.
>>
>> >> >> >> Obama. Bad.
>>
>> >> >> >> pink
>>
>> >> >> > Hmm a possible president who's articulate, intelligent, got
>> >> >> > through
>> >> >> > college without daddy's money, can state a coherent thought
>> >> >> > vocally
>> >> >> > without stuttering is lowering the standards? Interesting
>> >> >> > analysis.
>>
>> >> >> He's articulate. So what? He delivers speeches and prances around
>> >> >> like a
>> >> >> prize-winning peacock. But it's what he says, not how he says it,
>> >> >> that
>> >> >> counts. He makes lower standards seem appealing to the masses by
>> >> >> empowering
>> >> >> them with empty but eloquent words. That message attracts people
>> >> >> who
>> >> >> want
>> >> >> an excuse not to work both smart and hard. That's his target
>> >> >> market.
>>
>> >> >> Hillary, however, has worked her entire life, possibly toward this
>> >> >> goal;
>> >> >> she
>> >> >> wasn't born with a silver spoon, either. I find her focused,
>> >> >> honest,
>> >> >> forthright and refreshing, while remaining calm under pressure.
>> >> >> She's
>> >> >> not
>> >> >> talking about changing, she IS changing and leading by example.
>> >> >> And
>> >> >> as
>> >> >> she
>> >> >> tries to "change" things, like getting those delegates seated, so
>> >> >> voters
>> >> >> aren't disenfranchised, no one takes notice she's changing and
>> >> >> working
>> >> >> before your eyes. No one sees Obama robbing the nomination by
>> >> >> disenfranchising her voters.
>>
>> >> >> Had Hillary not gone to Wellesley, she'd still be right where she
>> >> >> is
>> >> >> today.
>>
>> >> >> Had Obama not gone to Harvard, he would have sold used cars.
>> >> >> Correction:
>> >> >> He
>> >> >> would have owned a Certified Pre-owned Mercedes and Lexus
>> >> >> dealership.
>>
>> >> >> pink
>>
>> >> > Interesting .. so now you're psychic too, making predictions of what
>> >> > could/would be? Nice try, though.
>>
>> >> Where did I predict? Learn to distinguish between an opinion and a
>> >> prediction.
>>
>> >> pink
>>
>> > "Had Hillary not gone to Wellesley, she'd still be right where she is
>> > today.
>>
>> > Had Obama not gone to Harvard, he would have sold used cars.
>> > Correction: He
>> > would have owned a Certified Pre-owned Mercedes and Lexus dealership.
>> > "
>>
>> > Looks pretty much like you're predicting there. Nothing noting an
>> > opinion or a thought...seems pretty much a solid prediction. Perhaps
>> > you should learn English syntax.
>>
>> Perhaps you should familiarize yourself with an editorial. The opinion
>> is
>> implied.
>>
>> pink
>
> Gotta love it. Right wing cheerleaders even try to weasel out of
> their OWN words

Yeah, right. You're grasping at straws there, buddy.

pink



Reply from: Constitutional American
Date: 09 May 2008, 16:49
Re: HILLARY HAS EARNED SOME RESPECT EVEN FROM CONSERVATIVES

On May 9, 9:47 am, "pinky" <pinknebul...@yahoo,com > wrote:
> "Constitutional American" <wespen...@gmail,com > wrote in message
>
> news:664b034e-85ef-4411-a522-1228ce9a09eb@c65g2000hsa.googlegroups,com ...
>
>
>
> > On May 9, 9:10 am, "pinky" <pinknebul...@yahoo,com > wrote:
> >> "Constitutional American" <wespen...@gmail,com > wrote in message
>
> >>news:35d71fd9-559d-45bf-ac3b-468b0ce5c3a9@r66g2000hsg.googlegroups,com ...
>
> >> > On May 9, 7:03 am, "pinky" <pinknebul...@yahoo,com > wrote:
> >> >> "Constitutional American" <wespen...@gmail,com > wrote in message
>
> >> >>news:278d96a4-bab6-44d9-b203-e12b97c01d9e@a70g2000hsh.googlegroups,com ...
>
> >> >> > On May 8, 10:59 pm, "pinky" <pinknebul...@yahoo,com > wrote:
> >> >> >> "Wes Penn" <wespen...@gmail,com > wrote in message
>
> >> >> >>news:258875cc-a0bf-4227-8269-db55e486d063@w7g2000hsa.googlegroups,com ...
>
> >> >> >> > On May 8, 10:12 pm, "pinky" <pinknebul...@yahoo,com > wrote:
> >> >> >> >> "I am the Tribune" <Tribunu...@gmail,com > wrote in
> >> >> >> >> messagenews:60e091d9-8fd8-4d78-a0cc-6e89ab3015b0@z16g2000prn.googlegroups,com ...
>
> >> >> >> >> > Now don't get me wrong I don't think she has a grasp of the
> >> >> >> >> > truth
> >> >> >> >> > and
> >> >> >> >> > she will say anything to get a vote. But she has proved to be
> >> >> >> >> > tough
> >> >> >> >> > as
> >> >> >> >> > well as a real hard worker.
>
> >> >> >> >> Obama has lowered the standards and America likes the "change."
> >> >> >> >> We
> >> >> >> >> now,
> >> >> >> >> apparently, live in an era where an "intellectual" is defined as
> >> >> >> >> a
> >> >> >> >> college
> >> >> >> >> student, with little or no practical work or life experience,
> >> >> >> >> and
> >> >> >> >> the
> >> >> >> >> "elite" is defined by anyone with a degree making over 50K,
> >> >> >> >> UNLESS
> >> >> >> >> you
> >> >> >> >> have
> >> >> >> >> don't have a college degree and make 200k. Then it's back to
> >> >> >> >> working
> >> >> >> >> class
> >> >> >> >> for you.
>
> >> >> >> >> Obama. Bad.
>
> >> >> >> >> pink
>
> >> >> >> > Hmm a possible president who's articulate, intelligent, got
> >> >> >> > through
> >> >> >> > college without daddy's money, can state a coherent thought
> >> >> >> > vocally
> >> >> >> > without stuttering is lowering the standards? Interesting
> >> >> >> > analysis.
>
> >> >> >> He's articulate. So what? He delivers speeches and prances around
> >> >> >> like a
> >> >> >> prize-winning peacock. But it's what he says, not how he says it,
> >> >> >> that
> >> >> >> counts. He makes lower standards seem appealing to the masses by
> >> >> >> empowering
> >> >> >> them with empty but eloquent words. That message attracts people
> >> >> >> who
> >> >> >> want
> >> >> >> an excuse not to work both smart and hard. That's his target
> >> >> >> market.
>
> >> >> >> Hillary, however, has worked her entire life, possibly toward this
> >> >> >> goal;
> >> >> >> she
> >> >> >> wasn't born with a silver spoon, either. I find her focused,
> >> >> >> honest,
> >> >> >> forthright and refreshing, while remaining calm under pressure.
> >> >> >> She's
> >> >> >> not
> >> >> >> talking about changing, she IS changing and leading by example.
> >> >> >> And
> >> >> >> as
> >> >> >> she
> >> >> >> tries to "change" things, like getting those delegates seated, so
> >> >> >> voters
> >> >> >> aren't disenfranchised, no one takes notice she's changing and
> >> >> >> working
> >> >> >> before your eyes. No one sees Obama robbing the nomination by
> >> >> >> disenfranchising her voters.
>
> >> >> >> Had Hillary not gone to Wellesley, she'd still be right where she
> >> >> >> is
> >> >> >> today.
>
> >> >> >> Had Obama not gone to Harvard, he would have sold used cars.
> >> >> >> Correction:
> >> >> >> He
> >> >> >> would have owned a Certified Pre-owned Mercedes and Lexus
> >> >> >> dealership.
>
> >> >> >> pink
>
> >> >> > Interesting .. so now you're psychic too, making predictions of what
> >> >> > could/would be? Nice try, though.
>
> >> >> Where did I predict? Learn to distinguish between an opinion and a
> >> >> prediction.
>
> >> >> pink
>
> >> > "Had Hillary not gone to Wellesley, she'd still be right where she is
> >> > today.
>
> >> > Had Obama not gone to Harvard, he would have sold used cars.
> >> > Correction: He
> >> > would have owned a Certified Pre-owned Mercedes and Lexus dealership.
> >> > "
>
> >> > Looks pretty much like you're predicting there. Nothing noting an
> >> > opinion or a thought...seems pretty much a solid prediction. Perhaps
> >> > you should learn English syntax.
>
> >> Perhaps you should familiarize yourself with an editorial. The opinion
> >> is
> >> implied.
>
> >> pink
>
> > Gotta love it. Right wing cheerleaders even try to weasel out of
> > their OWN words
>
> Yeah, right. You're grasping at straws there, buddy.
>
> pink

Ohh snappy comeback! Was that an editorial as well?


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