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Ashton's illogical marriage

Reply from: edonline
Date: 09 May 2008, 14:58
Ashton's illogical marriage

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Ashton's illogical marriage

By Courtney Hazlett
The Scoop
updated 11:27 p.m. ET, Thurs., May. 8, 2008

Ashton Kutcher never meant to marry

Ashton Kutcher sat down with Glamour magazine's "Lunchdate" columnist Carole
Radziwill and chatted about some of the illogical things he's done in his
life. Marrying Demi Moore was one of his surprising responses to that
question.

"Marry my wife. Completely illogical. Because I had no intention of ever
getting married," Kutcher told Radziwill. "If I would have stopped and
thought about it, I would have thought my way out of it. And I have no
regrets. I have things that - if they were put in front of me today - I'd do
differently, but I don't regret them."



Reply from: Knowledge
Date: 10 May 2008, 03:50
Re: Ashton's illogical marriage

On Fri, 9 May 2008 08:58:51 -0400, "edonline"
<edonlineSPAMOUT!@comcast . net > wrote:

> * w w w .msnbc.msn . com /id/24525545/
>
>Ashton's illogical marriage
>
>By Courtney Hazlett
>The Scoop
>updated 11:27 p.m. ET, Thurs., May. 8, 2008
>
>Ashton Kutcher never meant to marry
>
>Ashton Kutcher sat down with Glamour magazine's "Lunchdate" columnist Carole
>Radziwill and chatted about some of the illogical things he's done in his
>life. Marrying Demi Moore was one of his surprising responses to that
>question.
>
>"Marry my wife. Completely illogical. Because I had no intention of ever
>getting married," Kutcher told Radziwill. "If I would have stopped and
>thought about it, I would have thought my way out of it. And I have no
>regrets. I have things that - if they were put in front of me today - I'd do
>differently, but I don't regret them."
>
Wait until he decides he is ready to have his own children. Let's see
what happens then.
He will either divorce Demi, or screw her daughters. Nature will take
over. Screwing sterile women is fun for a little while. then it
begins t work on your mind. You screw and screw and screw and screw.
Yey you create absolutely nothing. That will bring on impotence, or
mental illness if you don't change the situation.

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Reply from: It's the Principle!
Date: 10 May 2008, 04:53
Re: Ashton's illogical marriage

Knowledge <knowledg_e@charter . net > wrote in alt.gossip.celebrities:

> On Fri, 9 May 2008 08:58:51 -0400, "edonline"
><edonlineSPAMOUT!@comcast . net > wrote:
>
>> * w w w .msnbc.msn . com /id/24525545/
>>
>>Ashton's illogical marriage
>>
>>By Courtney Hazlett
>>The Scoop
>>updated 11:27 p.m. ET, Thurs., May. 8, 2008
>>
>>Ashton Kutcher never meant to marry
>>
>>Ashton Kutcher sat down with Glamour magazine's "Lunchdate"
>>columnist Carole Radziwill and chatted about some of the illogical
>>things he's done in his life. Marrying Demi Moore was one of his
>>surprising responses to that question.
>>
>>"Marry my wife. Completely illogical. Because I had no intention
>>of ever getting married," Kutcher told Radziwill. "If I would have
>>stopped and thought about it, I would have thought my way out of
>>it. And I have no regrets. I have things that - if they were put
>>in front of me today - I'd do differently, but I don't regret
>>them."
>>
> Wait until he decides he is ready to have his own children. Let's
> see what happens then.
> He will either divorce Demi, or screw her daughters. Nature will
> take over. Screwing sterile women is fun for a little while. then
> it begins t work on your mind. You screw and screw and screw and
> screw. Yey you create absolutely nothing. That will bring on
> impotence, or mental illness if you don't change the situation.
>

Just when I think you couldn't possible be more of a moron, you try to
post on some other topic than your racist notions and seal the deal:
You're a COMPLETE idiot.

--
Brandy Alexandre

Inspiring. Isn't it? A government of the people for the people... and
answerable to the people. At least that's the idea... -- Tom Zarek

Reply from: Knowledge
Date: 10 May 2008, 09:12
Re: Ashton's illogical marriage

On 10 May 2008 02:53:16 GMT, "It's the Principle!"
<brandykat@kittylitternewsguy . com > wrote:

>Knowledge <knowledg_e@charter . net > wrote in alt.gossip.celebrities:
>
>> On Fri, 9 May 2008 08:58:51 -0400, "edonline"
>><edonlineSPAMOUT!@comcast . net > wrote:
>>
>>> * w w w .msnbc.msn . com /id/24525545/
>>>
>>>Ashton's illogical marriage
>>>
>>>By Courtney Hazlett
>>>The Scoop
>>>updated 11:27 p.m. ET, Thurs., May. 8, 2008
>>>
>>>Ashton Kutcher never meant to marry
>>>
>>>Ashton Kutcher sat down with Glamour magazine's "Lunchdate"
>>>columnist Carole Radziwill and chatted about some of the illogical
>>>things he's done in his life. Marrying Demi Moore was one of his
>>>surprising responses to that question.
>>>
>>>"Marry my wife. Completely illogical. Because I had no intention
>>>of ever getting married," Kutcher told Radziwill. "If I would have
>>>stopped and thought about it, I would have thought my way out of
>>>it. And I have no regrets. I have things that - if they were put
>>>in front of me today - I'd do differently, but I don't regret
>>>them."
>>>
>> Wait until he decides he is ready to have his own children. Let's
>> see what happens then.
>> He will either divorce Demi, or screw her daughters. Nature will
>> take over. Screwing sterile women is fun for a little while. then
>> it begins t work on your mind. You screw and screw and screw and
>> screw. Yey you create absolutely nothing. That will bring on
>> impotence, or mental illness if you don't change the situation.
>>
>
>Just when I think you couldn't possible be more of a moron, you try to
>post on some other topic than your racist notions and seal the deal:
>You're a COMPLETE idiot.
I've heard you have had a trollop life, but have you ever been a man
at any time?

No huh?

Well then, there is no way you can know, or understand how men feel,
or what they are thinking when they want to have children badly, and
the woman under them has her tubes tied, or has had the big "H", or is
on the pill, or an implant. All the while the woman is lying about it,
telling the man to just do it more often when she knows she has
irreversibly sterilized herself.

That can cause a man to begin thinking that he is impotent. then
before you know it, he actually does begin having erectile
dysfunction, and it just gets worse from there if the female doesn't
tell him that she is sterile.

What part of this do you not understand? Or do you just get your old
maid jollies off attacking the messenger instead of proving his
message to be wrong?

Read the information at the links on my website below Whiskey. Then
you will move up to the Minor leagues, but I will be able to talk to
you better because you will have real knowledge in your head instead
of the Ex-Laxy stuff that resides there now.

Capisce amiga mia?






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Reply from: It's the Principle!
Date: 10 May 2008, 16:19
Re: Ashton's illogical marriage

Knowledge <knowledg_e@charter . net > wrote in alt.gossip.celebrities:

> On 10 May 2008 02:53:16 GMT, "It's the Principle!"
><brandykat@kittylitternewsguy . com > wrote:
>
>>Knowledge <knowledg_e@charter . net > wrote in
>>alt.gossip.celebrities:
>>
>>> On Fri, 9 May 2008 08:58:51 -0400, "edonline"
>>><edonlineSPAMOUT!@comcast . net > wrote:
>>>
>>>> * w w w .msnbc.msn . com /id/24525545/
>>>>
>>>>Ashton's illogical marriage
>>>>
>>>>By Courtney Hazlett
>>>>The Scoop
>>>>updated 11:27 p.m. ET, Thurs., May. 8, 2008
>>>>
>>>>Ashton Kutcher never meant to marry
>>>>
>>>>Ashton Kutcher sat down with Glamour magazine's "Lunchdate"
>>>>columnist Carole Radziwill and chatted about some of the
>>>>illogical things he's done in his life. Marrying Demi Moore was
>>>>one of his surprising responses to that question.
>>>>
>>>>"Marry my wife. Completely illogical. Because I had no intention
>>>>of ever getting married," Kutcher told Radziwill. "If I would
>>>>have stopped and thought about it, I would have thought my way
>>>>out of it. And I have no regrets. I have things that - if they
>>>>were put in front of me today - I'd do differently, but I don't
>>>>regret them."
>>>>
>>> Wait until he decides he is ready to have his own children.
>>> Let's see what happens then.
>>> He will either divorce Demi, or screw her daughters. Nature will
>>> take over. Screwing sterile women is fun for a little while.
>>> then it begins t work on your mind. You screw and screw and
>>> screw and screw. Yey you create absolutely nothing. That will
>>> bring on impotence, or mental illness if you don't change the
>>> situation.
>>>
>>
>>Just when I think you couldn't possible be more of a moron, you
>>try to post on some other topic than your racist notions and seal
>>the deal: You're a COMPLETE idiot.
> I've heard you have had a trollop life, but have you ever been a
> man at any time?
>
> No huh?
>
> Well then, there is no way you can know, or understand how men
> feel, or what they are thinking when they want to have children
> badly, and the woman under them has her tubes tied, or has had the
> big "H", or is on the pill, or an implant. All the while the woman
> is lying about it, telling the man to just do it more often when
> she knows she has irreversibly sterilized herself.
>
> That can cause a man to begin thinking that he is impotent. then
> before you know it, he actually does begin having erectile
> dysfunction, and it just gets worse from there if the female
> doesn't tell him that she is sterile.
>
> What part of this do you not understand? Or do you just get your
> old maid jollies off attacking the messenger instead of proving
> his message to be wrong?
>
> Read the information at the links on my website below Whiskey.
> Then you will move up to the Minor leagues, but I will be able to
> talk to you better because you will have real knowledge in your
> head instead of the Ex-Laxy stuff that resides there now.
>
> Capisce amiga mia?
>
>
You have done nothing to prove it right. Provide me a few links. I
know you can. You believe everyone else can, and should, so back it
up, or we'll know you're just speaking from your own experience and
the kind of man you are and the kind of trash you hook up with.

--
Brandy Alexandre

Inspiring. Isn't it? A government of the people for the people...
and answerable to the people. At least that's the idea... -- Tom
Zarek

Reply from: marybones@verizon . net
Date: 10 May 2008, 16:30
Re: Ashton's illogical marriage

Also, K, vasectomy/ tubal ligation is the birth control method OF
CHOICE for people who do not want, or have had, children. No worries
about birth control! No Pill side effects, no fumbling for Trojans,
no diaphragm springing out of the woman's fingers and rolling across
the bathroom floor like a naughty little Frisbee... yes, you can be a
lot more free and spontaneous once the deed is done. Bonus: no more
awkward conversations with the doctor/ pharmacist on the topic. It's
done.

Reply from: marybones@verizon . net
Date: 10 May 2008, 16:31
Re: Ashton's illogical marriage

And PS - if Ashton wants babies, he can get Madonna or Angelina to
take him to the World Baby Bazaar, where he can get some to complement
his decor.

Reply from: It's the Principle!
Date: 10 May 2008, 17:25
Re: Ashton's illogical marriage

marybones@verizon . net <marybones@rcn . com > wrote in
alt.gossip.celebrities:

> Also, K, vasectomy/ tubal ligation is the birth control method OF
> CHOICE for people who do not want, or have had, children. No worries
> about birth control! No Pill side effects, no fumbling for Trojans,
> no diaphragm springing out of the woman's fingers and rolling across
> the bathroom floor like a naughty little Frisbee... yes, you can be a
> lot more free and spontaneous once the deed is done. Bonus: no more
> awkward conversations with the doctor/ pharmacist on the topic. It's
> done.
>

He doesn't know that the studies prove out that sex improves between
couples who choose a more reliable birth control.

But he stated another piece of stupidity as fact. Maybe it's a fact
for him, but not even close for anyone else who isn't caught up in this
idea that they have to get a woman prenant to be a man. That's just
frightening on so many levels.

--
Brandy Alexandre

Inspiring. Isn't it? A government of the people for the people... and
answerable to the people. At least that's the idea... -- Tom Zarek

Reply from: marybones@verizon . net
Date: 10 May 2008, 18:05
Re: Ashton's illogical marriage

On May 10, 11:25 am, "It's the Principle!"
<brandy...@kittylitternewsguy . com > wrote:
> marybo...@verizon . net <marybo...@rcn . com > wrote in
> alt.gossip.celebrities:
>
> > Also, K, vasectomy/ tubal ligation is the birth control method OF
> > CHOICE for people who do not want, or have had, children.  No worries
> > about birth control!  No Pill side effects, no fumbling for Trojans,
> > no diaphragm springing out of the woman's fingers and rolling across
> > the bathroom floor like a naughty little Frisbee... yes, you can be a
> > lot more free and spontaneous once the deed is done.  Bonus: no more
> > awkward conversations with the doctor/ pharmacist on the topic.  It's
> > done.
>
> He doesn't know that the studies prove out that sex improves between
> couples who choose a more reliable birth control.
>
> But he stated another piece of stupidity as fact.  Maybe it's a fact
> for him, but not even close for anyone else who isn't caught up in this
> idea that they have to get a woman prenant to be a man.  That's just
> frightening on so many levels.
>
I know! Add his sexual ignorance to his whole race THING and you have
one scary character. I mean, I live in Harlem, and I STILL find this
guy scary! Aye caramba - my neighbors would *never* say stuff like
this.

And I tell you, once the birth control thing is out of the way - yeah,
it's a lot better. Except for one thing - if a woman divorces a man
who got a vasectomy for this reason - Fireworks! And not good ones.

Reply from: Janice
Date: 11 May 2008, 01:50
Re: Ashton's illogical marriage

In article <Xns9A9A6A0FEA8D8675309@64.209.0.95>,
"It's the Principle!" <brandykat@kittylitternewsguy . com > wrote:

> He doesn't know that the studies prove out that sex improves between
> couples who choose a more reliable birth control.
>
> But he stated another piece of stupidity as fact. Maybe it's a fact
> for him, but not even close for anyone else who isn't caught up in this
> idea that they have to get a woman prenant to be a man. That's just
> frightening on so many levels.

He assumes Kutcher WANTS/needs his own offspring. Does he have a cite
for that? MANY men do no want offspring.

Reply from: It's the Principle!
Date: 11 May 2008, 03:40
Re: Ashton's illogical marriage

Janice <Nothank@you . com > wrote in alt.gossip.celebrities:

> In article <Xns9A9A6A0FEA8D8675309@64.209.0.95>,
> "It's the Principle!" <brandykat@kittylitternewsguy . com > wrote:
>
>> He doesn't know that the studies prove out that sex improves
>> between couples who choose a more reliable birth control.
>>
>> But he stated another piece of stupidity as fact. Maybe it's a
>> fact for him, but not even close for anyone else who isn't caught
>> up in this idea that they have to get a woman prenant to be a
>> man. That's just frightening on so many levels.
>
> He assumes Kutcher WANTS/needs his own offspring. Does he have a
> cite for that? MANY men do no want offspring.
>

No cite. He thinks he has a right to demand one for every little
thing, but demand one back for his psycho rants and he tries to
deflect, or ignores the request pretending never to have seen it.

--
Brandy Alexandre

Inspiring. Isn't it? A government of the people for the people... and
answerable to the people. At least that's the idea... -- Tom Zarek

Reply from: Knowledge
Date: 11 May 2008, 20:58
Re: Ashton's illogical marriage

On 11 May 2008 01:40:31 GMT, "It's the Principle!"
<brandykat@kittylitternewsguy . com > wrote:

>Janice <Nothank@you . com > wrote in alt.gossip.celebrities:
>
>> In article <Xns9A9A6A0FEA8D8675309@64.209.0.95>,
>> "It's the Principle!" <brandykat@kittylitternewsguy . com > wrote:
>>
>>> He doesn't know that the studies prove out that sex improves
>>> between couples who choose a more reliable birth control.
>>>
>>> But he stated another piece of stupidity as fact. Maybe it's a
>>> fact for him, but not even close for anyone else who isn't caught
>>> up in this idea that they have to get a woman prenant to be a
>>> man. That's just frightening on so many levels.
>>
>> He assumes Kutcher WANTS/needs his own offspring. Does he have a
>> cite for that? MANY men do no want offspring.
>>
>
>No cite. He thinks he has a right to demand one for every little
>thing, but demand one back for his psycho rants and he tries to
>deflect, or ignores the request pretending never to have seen it.
There you go lying again Bourbon.

Point out a real instance when someone has asked me to provide links
and I haven't given them one. Any fool knows that I provide links 99%
of the time with my initial post.

I'm looking now to find some scientific, or psychological information
about female birth control and male impotence.

Until I find it, feel free to think that I'm just giving you my
opinion as to how angry I felt in those situations.

Here's a recent post I shared with hundreds of members on my Yahoo
forum.

To: Strictly_Business_2008@yahoogroups . com
Subject: Re: The Facts Speak For Themselves!! R Kelly had 3 way with
child victim


ImHotep,



There you are Ida! So it took me shaking things up a little to get
you to come out of hiding huh?

Check out her amazing site folks: w w w .reparationsthecure.org



At 10:11 AM 5/5/2008, you wrote:


I'm glad you responded to this. The "penis based justification" as you
so aptly put it, really was such a gross insult that I deleted it.
Glad you kept the thread alive.

Knowledge says: I'm not sure to which of us you are referring Ida, but
I have a feeling it will become very clear to me in a few sentences.
This is the first time in the nearly two decades since I first saw you
on -BET Our voices-that you have said something with which I disagree.

I don't know any other human that I can say that about Ida. Ok, let
me explain how I see it from an older worldly male viewpoint, based on
what, I believe, cunning women have done to me to contribute to my not
having any children.



IF the entire value of a female human being is her ability to
procreate and/or give sexual pleasure then by all means, "divine" men,
start using her when she's 12 or 13, give her a bunch of children,
never allow her to mature and have the dignity of making up her own
adult mind about anything, make her subservient, terrorize and
traumatize her, prevent her from becoming educated and contributing to
society as a full-fledged feminine force equal to, and equally
valuable as your masculine force.

The King James Bible does say in Genesis:
"And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and
multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion
over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over
every living thing that moveth upon the earth." King James Version,
Genesis 1:28
"God blessed them and said to them, "Be fruitful and increase
in number; fill the earth and subdue it. Rule over the fish of the
sea and the birds of the air and over every living creature that
moves on the ground." New International Version, Genesis 1:28

These words, for those of us who believe in the bible are, supposed to
be coming from GOD. .They aren't something I'm making up, and it isn't
my opinion. It is therefore obvious to me that the prime directive for
both male and female is to reproduce; not go out and buy five Sports
cars, or a five hundred thousand dollar house, or a hundred pounds of
gold chains, or Gold teeth as so many seem want to do today, and I
think they are mentally and financially screwed up because of their
materialistic value system.

The problem I have seen Ida with allowing women to make up their own
minds in the area of reproduction is that many of them decide to delay
children, or not have them at all. Many times they don't tell the men
they are dating that they are taking the pill, or that they have had
their tubes tied, or that they have had other major surgery that has
rendered them infertile.

I dated a wonderful woman twenty three years ago who was my boss. She
was a year younger than I, had been married to a Black doctor, was a
Caucasian female, and she had two sons, 11, and 12, and a 14 year old
daughter.

I was totally into this woman. We had a beautiful relationship both at
work where we kept everything undercover, and away from work it
changed into just boyfriend and girlfriend. After a torrid six months
of dating, I was about to ask her to marry me. Then on New years day
1986, she leaned over in the bed and told me she had something to tell
me that I wasn't going to like.

Mon Dieu! What now I thought? So she dropped the bomb on me by telling
me that she had had her tubes tied after her third child. Try to
imagine how a man who is the last remaining person on his fathers side
of the family felt upon hearing that.

I was devastated and then very angry with her for being so slick and
sneaky that she felt she had the right to use my time, and life in a
selfish way like that.

I asked her why did she do that knowing how much I wanted children.
She told me she had never had a boyfriend who treated her as good as I
had been doing.

Well, of course that made me happy to hear that, but that still
doesn't give her the right to basically waste my time. I could have
been with someone else who wanted children and could have them.

So we stayed together for the next two years, but it was not the same.
I began searching for younger women, and of course she got angry with
me for doing that.

Then my first wife, who was 18 when we married, had blocked tubes. I
still wonder if she knew that before we got married and decided not to
tell me. After all a woman's chances of marrying someone her age, go
down quite a bit when she is sterile.

My second wife swore up and down that she wanted to have kids as soon
as she relocated from The Republic of Panama to my home here. She was
35 at the time. She had never been married, and didn't have any kids.
So I thought I had finally found the right woman. Then after staying
her a year she decided that she didn't want to have any children, and
that Oregon was way to racist for her. So she left and moved to
Brooklyn where she is doing quite well. I had another girlfriend,
Caucasians, 25, who told all of her friends that she was pregnant by
me.

When I asked her if it was true, she said "Hell no! it isn't yours and
don't ask me again. So I didn't I moved to Seattle in 1985, remained
there for 2,5 years and then moved back to Oregon. When I saw her best
friends I asked them about Cindy's baby. They told me that she
continued telling everyone that it was mine, but she put the baby up
for adoption as soon as she had it. So females tricked me out of that
one too.

On top of that I think that giving females the power to control when
they get pregnant has totally upset the natural balance of power in
relationships that GOD established.

The growth rate of the Caucasian ethnic group and the African American
ethnic group is nearly at a standstill because of the TREMENDOUS
numbers of babies being aborted. White men hate on, and kill black men
because they mistakenly believe that interethnic marriage is
destroying the Caucasians ethnic group; when in fact that is only a
tiny percent like about 4% of marriages are Black men and White women.
The real culprit is ABORTION.

I'm all for letting people have choice over what they do, but when
their choice involves lynching someone because of their skin color,
dropping bombs on hundreds of thousands of innocent people because of
their skin color, or killing little babies that would grow into
healthy adults if they were left alone and allowed to develop as GOD
intended for them to do, then that is where FREE CHOICE STOPS! I do
not want to be involved on any level with females who believe in
abortion as something they can use like birth control. Sorry! I may be
chauvanistic, but I know what makes sense and what doesn't.

Now it's all about money. If you are a drug dealer and good looking,
women will break their necks trying to get to you. If you are an
average looking, hard working, honest fellow, with limited income,
things can really get rough. The only women who seem interested are
those who already have a bunch of kids by other men, and who usually
have sterilized themselves by the time they get around to thinking
they might want to spend time with an older man like myself. That is
totally unacceptable to me.

A man who spends all of his time and money raising some other man's
children is not likely to have any of his own. Again being the last
living Alexander that kind of relationship is way to one side for me
to accept. Most of the women I have met in my life; not anyone elses,
who are over 35 have sterilized themselves. Then I have to deal with
the incredible number of women who are messed up mentally because of
drug use, or abuse. Once the unacceptable females are weeded out, it
doesn't leave many that fit what I'm looking for Ida.

So yes, I want a female between seventeen and twenty two who is
physically and mentally healthy, no kids, no drug habits, no smoking.
I don't think that is asking to much, but at my age it may be an
impossibility. Also I've had enough of women who want to do everything
that men do. I want a woman who looks up to me, listens to my counsel,
and who wants to be a mother; not a CEO.

Older women are far to cunning. I have found that out the hard way.
they have their own agendas that usually are in direct conflict with
where I'm trying to go.

I think one of the reasons that our society is so messed up now is
because to many women are working and leaving their children to be
raised by babysitters who are into WitchCraft, homosexuality, and
every other kind of perversion you can imagine. Our children should
have our beliefs and not some stranger at the day care center. Also
the children are not receiving the hugs, kisses, and other instruction
that is necessary for them to develop into strong healthy people.

I have been trying to locate this possible daughter of mine for 21
years now with no luck



A matured, educated, self-knowing woman will reject your penis driven
mind and will require you to actually be divine - maybe that's why
you'd like to start "training" us at age 12 and 13.

Perhaps so Ida, but those kind of women usually want to take over the
household and run it themselves in contrast to what the Bible says in
Ephesians. So once again I choose to live by what I see in the bible
rather than listen to these people who think themselves to be wiser
than GOD, but in fact are mainly fools.


Ephesians



Chapter 5
1 Be ye therefore followers of God, as dear children;

2 And walk in love, as Christ also hath loved us, and hath given
himself for us an offering and a sacrifice to God for a sweetsmelling
savour.

3 But fornication, and all uncleanness, or covetousness, let it not be
once named among you, as becometh saints;

4 Neither filthiness, nor foolish talking, nor jesting, which are not
convenient: but rather giving of thanks.

5 For this ye know, that no whoremonger, nor unclean person, nor
covetous man, who is an idolater, hath any inheritance in the kingdom
of Christ and of God.

6 Let no man deceive you with vain words: for because of these things
cometh the wrath of God upon the children of disobedience.

7 Be not ye therefore partakers with them.

8 For ye were sometimes darkness, but now are ye light in the Lord:
walk as children of light:

9 (For the fruit of the Spirit is in all goodness and righteousness
and truth;)

10 Proving what is acceptable unto the Lord.

11 And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but
rather reprove them.

12 For it is a shame even to speak of those things which are done of
them in secret.

13 But all things that are reproved are made manifest by the light:
for whatsoever doth make manifest is light.

14 Wherefore he saith, Awake thou that sleepest, and arise from the
dead, and Christ shall give thee light.

15 See then that ye walk circumspectly, not as fools, but as wise,

16 Redeeming the time, because the days are evil.

17 Wherefore be ye not unwise, but understanding what the will of the
Lord is.

18 And be not drunk with wine, wherein is excess; but be filled with
the Spirit;

19 Speaking to yourselves in psalms and hymns and spiritual songs,
singing and making melody in your heart to the Lord;

20 Giving thanks always for all things unto God and the Father in the
name of our Lord Jesus Christ;

21 Submitting yourselves one to another in the fear of God.

22 Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as unto the Lord.

23 For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head
of the church: and he is the saviour of the body.

24 Therefore as the church is subject unto Christ, so let the wives be
to their own husbands in every thing.

25 Husbands, love your wives, even as Christ also loved the church,
and gave himself for it;

26 That he might sanctify and cleanse it with the washing of water by
the word,

27 That he might present it to himself a glorious church, not having
spot, or wrinkle, or any such thing; but that it should be holy and
without blemish.

28 So ought men to love their wives as their own bodies. He that
loveth his wife loveth himself.

29 For no man ever yet hated his own flesh; but nourisheth and
cherisheth it, even as the Lord the church:

30 For we are members of his body, of his flesh, and of his bones.

31 For this cause shall a man leave his father and mother, and shall
be joined unto his wife, and they two shall be one flesh.

32 This is a great mystery: but I speak concerning Christ and the
church.

33 Nevertheless let every one of you in particular so love his wife
even as himself; and the wife see that she reverence her husband.


Ok, gotta run for a while. This will give you something to chew on.

I'm glad you de cloaked Ida. I have been emailing you and wondering
how you were for a very long time. How are you and your family by the
way?

What do you think about Obama and Rev Wright versus Hillary and Bill?

Peace


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Reply from: marybones@verizon . net
Date: 11 May 2008, 21:15
Re: Ashton's illogical marriage

On May 11, 2:58 pm, Knowledge <knowled...@charter . net > wrote:

a long story about his life and what he wants.

Okay, K, *you* want to marry a young woman who is going to be an old-
fashioned wife and mother. This is your right, and it's what you want
- fair enough. BUT other men have different wants and needs, and it's
unfair for you to brand a marriage as "illogical" simply because it is
not a marriage you would prefer. Some men and women do not wish to
have children, some want them but not biologically, some cannot and
deal with it - my sister cannot, and she is an elementary school
teacher, which suits her (childless) husband just fine, and has suited
him for many years.

So keep looking for your perfect woman, and let other men find theirs,
according to their own desires. Live and let live.

Reply from: It's the Principle!
Date: 11 May 2008, 22:26
Re: Ashton's illogical marriage

marybones@verizon . net <marybones@rcn . com > wrote in
alt.gossip.celebrities:

> On May 11, 2:58 pm, Knowledge <knowled...@charter . net > wrote:
>
> a long story about his life and what he wants.
>
> Okay, K, *you* want to marry a young woman who is going to be an
> old- fashioned wife and mother. This is your right, and it's what
> you want - fair enough. BUT other men have different wants and
> needs, and it's unfair for you to brand a marriage as "illogical"
> simply because it is not a marriage you would prefer. Some men
> and women do not wish to have children, some want them but not
> biologically, some cannot and deal with it - my sister cannot, and
> she is an elementary school teacher, which suits her (childless)
> husband just fine, and has suited him for many years.
>
> So keep looking for your perfect woman, and let other men find
> theirs, according to their own desires. Live and let live.

But he claims to be speaking for everyone, at least some sort of
majority, and refuses to back it up. He thinks spawning makes him a
man, but any 12-year-old can do that. What makes someone really a man,
he hasn't got. *this* is all he's got.

--
Brandy Alexandre

Inspiring. Isn't it? A government of the people for the people... and
answerable to the people. At least that's the idea... -- Tom Zarek

Reply from: It's the Principle!
Date: 11 May 2008, 21:55
Re: Ashton's illogical marriage

Knowledge <knowledg_e@charter . net > wrote in alt.gossip.celebrities:

> Point out a real instance when someone has asked me to provide links
> and I haven't given them one. Any fool knows that I provide links 99%
> of the time with my initial post.

Right now. There was no link with the post you made on this subject
and now you're refusing to provide one with some lame deflection saying
you always provide. Just not this time, apparently.

So we'll try again. Back up you claim with some links.

--
Brandy Alexandre

Inspiring. Isn't it? A government of the people for the people... and
answerable to the people. At least that's the idea... -- Tom Zarek


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