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Something that will make you go hummmmmmmmmmmmm

Reply from: Knowledge
Date: 10 May 2008, 03:25
Something that will make you go hummmmmmmmmmmmm

FYI
Editor’s Note: CURE has decided to print and respond to the first five
paragraphs of a long statement sent by Kennewickman. The statement
continues for 42 paragraphs. We considered whether or not to publish
the statement at all, and decided that we are willing to respond to
the first five paragraphs, hoping that if we do respond, we may help
some of the vulnerable youth who are fed these lies and distortions.

To the entire Black race living in America, we, the Adamic, pink
complexioned race (better known to you as the White race) that came to
these shores from Europe, England, Scotland, Ireland, and Iceland,
apologize for freeing you from slavery by fighting a horrible war
among ourselves that cost the lives of almost two million of our own
race. We apologize for continuing to fight among ourselves over that
very issue, even though you’ve never told us you appreciate our
freeing you.

We apologize for splitting to pieces our entire race the world over to
take sides with you to help you survive and become a freer race. We
apologize for forcing the rest of the world to outlaw the slavery
which your ancestors had practiced for thousands of years, even though
many nations on your home continent still practice it today.

We apologize for thinking we could civilize you when you have proven
that it is indeed an impossible feat, a feat beyond anything we could
have ever imagined.

We apologize for introducing Christianity to you and dragging you away
from the Voodoo you previously followed, although you have managed to
sneak that religion back into cultic Christianity and our people have
accepted it, which is witnessed by their animalistic whooping and
hollering and stomping and screaming instead of respectfully
worshiping our God as they ought to.

We apologize for teaching you to add and subtract (what little you
can), thereby enabling you to run a household and pay your bills (what
few you will) and count your children other than on your fingers and
sometimes toes when you have so many you run out of fingers.
KENNEWICKMAN

-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Response to Kennewickman from CURE member Court Ali
Submitted by admin on Sun, 02/17/2008 - 02:40.

* w w w .reparationsthecure.org/node/50

The statement sent to CURE from Kennewickman is much too long for me
to respond to point by point. Although I’d thoroughly enjoy crushing
all the lies, apparently written by Hal Turner, it would be too much
for a reader to consume. The words a writer chooses reveal many things
to the reader who is paying attention. The use of the term “Adamic
Race” reveals to the reader that this writer believes the white race
(Adamic race) is made up of God's chosen people. This writer is coming
from the point of view that there are only 6,000 years of history
worth considering. In this writer’s mind Adam and Eve are the origin
of mankind, Adam being the origin of the white race. This writer is
clearly a white supremacist. Using facts we will allow the truth to
crush this false reality.

Factually speaking when the Adamic race (as the writer refers to
himself), or white people, first arrived in North America, they
arrived in a territory that belonged to sovereign nations. For a time
the civilized inhabitants of what we now call America accepted these
strange visitors on their land. They were accustomed to visitors from
other lands: the Black African had been traveling the globe and having
contact with native people in the western hemisphere for thousands of
years. Christopher Columbus was able to plan his voyage to the “New
World” using a map created by one of these Black Africans. He came
into possession of one of these ancient maps from the Moorish people
in Spain and that's why he was so sure he would succeed. He knew the
earth was round, and had a map to prove it. At a time when the Adamic
race still believed the world was flat; the Black African had been
peacefully navigating the world in a civilized manner, always
returning to his paradisaical homeland for thousands of years. It was
the Adamic race whose living conditions were so poor in their
collective homelands, that they could not help but be envious of the
other civilized sovereign nations they came in contact with.

We need to keep in mind that the conqueror has never been the
civilizer of any people. No people on the face of the earth were
looking for what the Adamic race was offering. Collectively, the
world’s people were sovereign people with their own God and way of
life. In Christopher Columbus’ own diary he wrote of the people he met
in great detail. He said they were peaceful, and they loved their
neighbors as themselves. He tells of the high quality of life they had
and of the village structure. Then he proceeded to capture some of
them to bring back and show the Queen.

Many people fail to realize the white race didn't only attempt to
force the Black African into slavery. The white man tried to enslave
many types of people. The Black African was the only race of people
who could endure the harsh treatment at the hands of the white man in
what later became known as the barbaric system of chattel slavery.
Factually speaking this “freeing” of Blacks in America that the writer
is referring to is not accurate – it never happened. Chattel slavery
was becoming an unruly system at the time the white ruling class
“allowed” it to fall. After emancipation the form of bondage changed
from the visible physical to the mental bondage that is still
operating to this very day.

America has always been a nation with very a distinct class system.
The white ruling class at the time of the Civil War had covert plans
for the nation just like the leaders of today. While the average
American is falsely painted a picture of the Civil War – brother
against brother, North versus South, pro-slavery versus abolitionist –
the real story-line is much more interesting. You see, the ruling
class of that day never intended for or expected the decedents of
chattel slavery to survive much less to become a part of American
life. They viewed non-white people as less than human – savage beasts
to whom they did as they pleased. After all, in their minds they were
the Adamic race, God's chosen people, setting the world in proper
order, doing God's will on earth. Their pathology was so deep they
even named a slave cargo ship “Jesus.”

The powerful white ruling class that coldly calculated the brutal
chattel slavery system, did so to set America on top of the world’s
economic system. It was the flaws in their evil plan, and the social
system that supported it, that caused whites to fight amongst
themselves during the “horrible war” know as the Civil War. It is the
continued denial of true history by the white ruling class that keeps
whites fighting amongst themselves today on the issues of race.

I’d like to encourage the writer to educate himself about the true
history of the world, yet I know this to be an almost impossible
request given the pathology he suffers from – white supremacy. Let me
be clear that it my opinion, Hal Turner and his staff are not as
ignorant as they pretend to be. These men know exactly what they are
doing and why. Words are carefully chosen by them to maximize their
effect. Hal Turner is proud to open his mouth and say words that
exploit the ignorance of his audience and capitalize on their inner
rage. We need to ask our selves what really is the motivation of these
white supremacists. Who benefits from having a mob of ignorant white
supremacists organizing themselves in our country?

I’ll close by recapping reality. Anthropologists have proven the Black
man and woman are so ancient they have no birth record. All the people
on the planet earth came from their genetic line. This can be proven
with science. I see Mr. Turners letter like a large tree of ignorance:
we could spend all our time out on its branches. Instead let’s go to
the root of this false reality. Nothing that our white world holds
dear was ours originally: we have taken all we have learned from the
original people of the earth and claimed it as our own. Due to many
factors the white ruling class has been able to systematically hide
the truth, rewrite history and present a false world view for hundreds
of years. Now truthful information is easier to come by, and the glass
house of white supremacy is crashing down. This makes them very angry
so they continue to spew out misinformation, counting on the fact that
our nation has been dumbing down our educational system for the last
50 years and their audience won’t know any better.

Many educated white people give credit to the Greeks as the source of
knowledge for much of their higher learning. Who did the Greeks learn
everything from? When you look at history, you learn that they gave
credit to the Black African for everything. They did so out of a deep
respect, and gratitude. They openly admitted all their knowledge came
from the Black Africans. Just look at their Gods. It wasn’t until the
fall of the Greeks, and the change in the world that followed those
events, that the pathology of white supremacy was poised to rewrite
everything to make it seem like the white race was the originator of
the world’s knowledge. If you are honest in your study of history, the
truth will reveal itself.

While it may be more comforting to write off Mr. Turner’s remarks as
those of a mis-educated, ignorant man, we need to realize just how
many white people in this country have a similarly negative opinion of
Black people. It is time for an honest assessment of why that is. Most
importantly if you care about the points I have raised, find a way to
work with the youth of today. The white supremacy movement is eager to
reach them with their agenda: we should be equally invested in
providing them with the truth. In 1958 Thurgood Marshall told the
Honorable Elijah Muhammad to be aware of the fact that the Klan no
longer only wears white robes, now they wear black, meaning that just
because our society placed a social taboo on certain behaviors toward
Black Americans does not mean things on a deep level have changed all
that much. Now the Klan and its mentality are in every high level
place in our nation. Every place Black Americans will need to go to
seek justice in this country, the Klan mentality will be there as an
obstacle to peace.






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Reply from: Knowledge
Date: 10 May 2008, 08:56
Re: Something that will make you go hummmmmmmmmmmmm

how much money has come out of your pockets?
By admin - February 17th, 2008
Tagged:

* Get Over It - This is Wrong

I shall not try to persuade these poor, misguided souls concerning
their very pressing need to make amends for the so-called historical
wrongs done to the African Negroes. So, I shall ask you this. How much
money have y'all contributed towards this absurdity called reparations
for slavery? How much of this money has come out of your own pockets?
Have y'all sold your homes and given all the money to some more
deserving ghetto-raised momma and her half dozen kids, each by a
different breeder? Or has the money been given to Michael Jordan?
Oprah Winfrey? Bill Cosby? Or any of the hundreds, no, thousands of
very well off Negroes currently living in the US? No? Well, how
hypocritical of the whole lot of you. I expect that, before any White
man, or woman, demands of me that I owe a bunch of Negroes money, just
for being Black in the States, y'all would have already made the
ultimate sacrifice and given all your money, including your children's
college money, your retirement money, any and all your moneys that you
ever expect to have, to Black families, hopefully those living in the
ghettos so that they can escape. Can y'all think of a better legacy to
leave your children, grandchildren, great-grandchildren? J. SHIRLEY JR
‹ to the entire black race what is a white person ›

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Response to J Shirley Jr from CURE member Larry Yates
Submitted by admin on Sun, 02/17/2008 - 01:59.

* w w w .reparationsthecure.org/node/46

For forty years, since the age of 15, I have been publicly active in
support of African-American struggles. I am the first to say that I
have not sacrificed so much. In the course of a life working for
nonprofits and for social justice, I slid back a little from the upper
middle class status of my parents, but I still have a nice home,
health insurance, etc. But I have confronted a lot of people, for some
reason, with opposition to racism and a belief that the oppression of
African-Americans is the central moral crime my nation has engaged in.
It's really not much to do, but it's enough to make a lot of white
people very uptight. Perhaps because they feel a certain guilt.

For that reason, I expect to get unreasonable challenges like yours.
Let me ask you similar questions-- Have you ever supported a war, but
not fought in that war yourself? If you belong to a church or
congregation, have you given every cent you own to that congregation,
or at least 10% of your income? Do you believe that we are harming the
environment, but still drive a car? Did you promise to marry for life,
but get a divorce? In other words, are you a flawed human being? I
will admit that I am.

But I take racism seriously, and I am seeking solutions. I believe the
fight for reparations leads in the right direction. I know I am not
perfect, and nor are the other members of CURE. But we start with the
principle of respect for African-American experience, and try to go
from there.

If you come back with some effort to meet us human to human, not to
challenge us for not being perfect, perhaps we can have a
conversation.

Reply from: Alan Smithee
Date: 11 May 2008, 04:50
Re: Something that will make you go zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

x-no-archive: yes

Those Afri's need to take a tip from the wetbacks -- I.E., establish an
area instead of trying to
co-habitate with people who will always hate you. Once the Mexi's sneak
across the border they:

1. set up in their own neighborhood.
2. they speak their own language.
3. they keep their own culture.
4. they run their own stores.
5. they rent to their own people.
6. they buy from their own people.
7. they sell to their own people.
8. they hang out with their own people.
9. they support their own people.
10. they date their own people.
11. they marry their own people.

Unlike the Afri's who don't do any of these things...

Course in a few more decades, none of this will matter any more because
by then America will be
everything *but* European. And the local yokels will be living in either
the "United States of Asia", or the
"United States of Mexico".

Whites Are A Minority in America:
* news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/1305063.stm
----

ALMS

Reply from: Knowledge
Date: 11 May 2008, 23:30
Re: Something that will make you go zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

On Sun, 11 May 2008 02:50:20 GMT, Alan Smithee <alms@last.inc> wrote:

>x-no-archive: yes
>
>Those Afri's need to take a tip from the wetbacks -- I.E., establish an
>area instead of trying to
>co-habitate with people who will always hate you. Once the Mexi's sneak
>across the border they:
>
> 1. set up in their own neighborhood.
> 2. they speak their own language.
> 3. they keep their own culture.
> 4. they run their own stores.
> 5. they rent to their own people.
> 6. they buy from their own people.
> 7. they sell to their own people.
> 8. they hang out with their own people.
> 9. they support their own people.
>10. they date their own people.
>11. they marry their own people.
>
>Unlike the Afri's who don't do any of these things...
>
>Course in a few more decades, none of this will matter any more because
>by then America will be
>everything *but* European. And the local yokels will be living in either
>the "United States of Asia", or the
>"United States of Mexico".
>
>Whites Are A Minority in America:
> * news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/1305063.stm
>----
>
>ALMS

Very true!

Blacks have been sold on integration so long that it is very difficult
to get them to consider these options which would quickly allow us to
become the second richest Nation on the planet should we follow those
guidelines.

Most blacks still love the slave masters descendants, and are only
happy when they are laying around at his feet.






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Reply from: Commie Democrat
Date: 11 May 2008, 09:05
Re: Something that will make you go hummmmmmmmmmmmm

On 09 May 2008, Knowledge <knowledg_e@charter . net > posted some
news:f4u924l4on8rpf6bnh7ga60oprgs8b4bpr@4ax . com :


> Many educated white people give credit to the Greeks as the source of
> knowledge for much of their higher learning. Who did the Greeks learn
> everything from? When you look at history, you learn that they gave
> credit to the Black African for everything.

Did the Greeks teach all those black boys how to build the shit huts
they currently live in?

Reply from: Alan Smithee
Date: 11 May 2008, 19:03
Re: Some things make you go ha! ha! ha! ha! ha! ha! ha! ha! ha!

x-no-archive: yes

Commie Democrat wrote:
> On 09 May 2008, Knowledge <knowledg e@charter . net > posted some
> news:f4u924l4on8rpf6bnh7ga60oprgs8b4bpr@4ax . com :
>
>
>> Many educated white people give credit to the Greeks as the source of
>> knowledge for much of their higher learning. Who did the Greeks learn
>> everything from? When you look at history, you learn that they gave
>> credit to the Black African for everything.
>
> Did the Greeks teach all those black boys how to build the shit huts
> they currently live in?


This is both hysterical and scary. Hysterical because it's obvious rubbish;
scary because someone actually believes it.

NOTE: Climate plays a major factor in development, ever notice that you
only
see tech development in places with inhospitable climates? See below:

Winter is Good For Your Genes:
* w w w .vdare . com /rushton/060322 iq.htm
---

ALMS

Reply from: Knowledge
Date: 11 May 2008, 19:12
Re: Some things make you go ha! ha! ha! ha! ha! ha! ha! ha! ha!

On Sun, 11 May 2008 17:03:54 GMT, Alan Smithee <alms@last.inc> wrote:

>x-no-archive: yes
>
>Commie Democrat wrote:
>> On 09 May 2008, Knowledge <knowledg_e@charter . net > posted some
>> news:f4u924l4on8rpf6bnh7ga60oprgs8b4bpr@4ax . com :
>>
>>
>>> Many educated white people give credit to the Greeks as the source of
>>> knowledge for much of their higher learning. Who did the Greeks learn
>>> everything from? When you look at history, you learn that they gave
>>> credit to the Black African for everything.
>>
>> Did the Greeks teach all those black boys how to build the shit huts
>> they currently live in?
>
>
>This is both hysterical and scary. Hysterical because it's obvious rubbish;
>scary because someone actually believes it.
>
>NOTE: Climate plays a major factor in development, ever notice that you
>only
>see tech development in places with inhospitable climates? See below:
>
>Winter is Good For Your Genes:
> * w w w .vdare . com /rushton/060322_iq.htm
>---
>
>ALMS
If you had the money to travel around Amerikkka, and see how White
people really live, you would quickly see that there are White people
living in SHIT HUTS all over rural Virginia, West Virginia, The
Carolinas, Georgia, Mississippi, Alabama. Florida, and the other 40
continental states as well.

So what's your point?

A smart person would ask why..do people live in shit huts?

The answer is pretty much the same for White Americans and for
Africans? The ultra rich and powerful White males/females loot,
pillage, and plunder leaving the native people with no natural
resources, no jobs, and no way to make a decent living to improve
their conditions.

As for the Greeks, your saying I'm wrong doesn't mean diddly squat.
Post information that shows you are right. Otherwise you are just
another bovine scat artist. :-)






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Reply from: Alan Smithee
Date: 11 May 2008, 20:48
Re: Some things make you go ha! ha! ha! ha! ha! ha! ha! ha! ha!

x-no-archive: yes

This is the latest addition to the "Lost Tribes of Africa" mythos.
That's where we are
told that the Afri's invented chess, pyramids, paper, an alphabet,
medicine, civilization,
batteries, and helicopters. Naturally no proof is ever given to back up
these claims... :-D

That reminds me... back in its glorious heyday of oppressive and corrupt
governmental control (not to be
confused with the oppressive and corrupt governmental control that it
has today) Rhodesia had at the most 300,000 anglo/euro-trash citizens,
AKA "rhodents". That's all it took to control a population of over 7
million inventive natives. Hmmm....

Either the euro's were reeeaaalllly smart, or the afri's were
reeeaaalllly stupid. Possibly the government was getting outside help to
keep the locals down. But, since a current popular trend is to steal
gasoline by open
torchlight (one can guess how *that* usually turns out), I doubt that
they needed much outside help.

Anyway by 2050 it will all be over. America will be in the hands of the
wetbacks, ndns, cubans, and any other group whose members can network
without shooting one other.
---

ALMS

Reply from: Knowledge
Date: 11 May 2008, 23:24
Re: Some things make you go ha! ha! ha! ha! ha! ha! ha! ha! ha!

On Sun, 11 May 2008 16:14:50 -0500, Knowledge <knowledg_e@charter . net >
wrote:

>On Sun, 11 May 2008 19:30:34 +0000 (UTC), "Oooga! Ooooga!"
><chimp@out.org> wrote:
>
>>On 11 May 2008, Knowledge <knowledg_e@charter . net > posted some
>>news:4v9e24tsc96gs132hvlnd4lvrvov18vk85@4ax . com :
>>
>>> On Sun, 11 May 2008 17:03:54 GMT, Alan Smithee <alms@last.inc> wrote:
>>>
>>>>x-no-archive: yes
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Did the Greeks teach all those black boys how to build the shit huts
>>>>> they currently live in?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>This is both hysterical and scary. Hysterical because it's obvious
>>>>rubbish; scary because someone actually believes it.
>>>>
>>>>NOTE: Climate plays a major factor in development, ever notice that
>>>>you only
>>>>see tech development in places with inhospitable climates? See below:
>
>> * w w w 33.brinkster . com /iiiii/inventions/
>>
>>Black Invention Myths
>>Perhaps you've heard the claims: Were it not for the genius and energy
>>of African-American inventors, we might find ourselves in a world
>>without traffic lights, peanut butter, blood banks, light bulb
>>filaments, and a vast number of other things we now take for granted but
>
>could hardly imagine life without.
>

Oh yes, and then there is "Imhotep"

He is considered today by knowledgeable medical people to be the first
true doctor, the father of medicine, and he was Brown skinned, or
darker.

* en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imhotep

* w w w .mnsu.edu/emuseum/prehistory/egypt/history/people/imhotep.html

When you White folks pray and conclude the prayer with "Amen" you are
praying to a Black GOD

Amen

* w w w .touregypt . net /amen.htm




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>but were afraid to ask!
>
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