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Inside Oprah's Va-jay-jay

Reply from: Ms. Vulvina Clitoridae
Date: 10 May 2008, 18:13
Inside Oprah's Va-jay-jay

What Did You Call It?

By Stephanie Rosenbloom
THE NEW YORK TIMES

THIS is the story of how a silly-sounding word reached the ear of a
powerful television producer, and in only seconds of air time,
expanded the vocabularies — for better or worse — of legions of women.

It began on Feb. 12, 2006, when viewers of the ABC series “Grey’s
Anatomy” heard the character Miranda Bailey, a pregnant doctor who had
gone into labor, admonish a male intern, “Stop looking at my
vajayjay.”

The line sprang from an executive producer’s need to mollify standards
and practices executives who wanted the script to include fewer
mentions of the word vagina.

The scene, however, had the unintended effect of catapulting vajayjay
(also written va-jay-jay) into mainstream speech. Fans of “Grey’s
Anatomy” expressed their approval of the word on message boards and
blogs.

The show’s most noted fan, Oprah Winfrey, began using it on her show,
effectively legitimizing it for some 46 million American viewers each
week.

“I think vajayjay is a nice word, don’t you?” she asked her audience.

Vajayjay found its way into electronic dictionaries like Urban
Dictionary, Word Spy and Merriam-Webster’s Open Dictionary. It was
uttered on the television series “30 Rock.” It was used on the Web
site of “The Tyra Banks Show.” Jimmy Kimmel said it in a monologue. It
has appeared in the Web publications Salon and the Huffington Post and
on the blog Wonkette.

“The Soup,” which highlights wacky television and celebrity moments on
E! Entertainment Television, broadcast bits called “Oprah’s
Va-jay-jay.” One featured a clip from “The Oprah Winfrey Show” at the
Miraval resort in Tucson in which Ms. Winfrey, attached to a wire and
wearing a harness around the lower half of her body, swings through
the air and announces, “My vajayjay is paining me.” A YouTube video
set the clip to electronic music, with Ms. Winfrey as an unwitting
M.C.

The swift adoption of vajayjay is not simply about pop culture’s
ability to embrace new slang. Neologisms are always percolating. What
this really demonstrates, say some linguists, is that there was a
vacuum in popular discourse, a need for a word for female genitalia
that is not clinical, crude, coy, misogynistic or descriptive of a
vagina from a man’s point of view.

“There was a need for a pet name,” said Geoffrey Nunberg, a linguist
at the School of Information at the University of California,
Berkeley, and the chairman of the usage panel for the American
Heritage Dictionary, “a name that women can use in a familiar way
among themselves.”

Acceptance of the word, however, also reignites an old argument, one
most forcefully made by Eve Ensler in “The Vagina Monologues.” Over a
decade ago, Ms. Ensler wrote that “what we don’t say becomes a secret,
and secrets often create shame and fear and myths.” Vagina, her widely
performed series of monologues declared, is too often an “invisible
word,” one “that stirs up anxiety, awkwardness, contempt and disgust.”

Dr. Carol A. Livoti, a Manhattan obstetrician and gynecologist and an
author of “Vaginas: An Owner’s Manual” (Thunder’s Mouth Press, 2004),
said vajayjay and other euphemisms and slang offend her and can render
women incapable of explaining their symptoms to health professionals.
“I think it’s terrible,” Dr. Livoti said. “It’s time to start calling
anatomical organs by their anatomical name. We should be proud of our
bodies.”

“It seems like a step backward,” she added.

In a voice-mail message left for a reporter, Gloria Steinem said she
hopes the women using vajayjay are doing so because they think it is
more descriptive than vagina, not because they are squeamish.

Technically speaking, the vagina is the canal that leads from the
uterus to the outside of the body, a fact that has led both Ms. Ensler
and Ms. Steinem to write that vagina — while not a word that should be
stigmatized — is inadequate because it is not inclusive enough. It
does not, they have pointed out, include the labia and clitoris, the
nerve-rich locus of a woman’s sexual pleasure. “I’m hoping that the
use of this new word is part of the objection to only saying vagina
since it doesn’t include all of women’s genitalia, for instance the
clitoris, in the way that vulva does,” Ms. Steinem said.

Another view was offered by John H. McWhorter, a linguist and a senior
fellow at the Manhattan Institute, who pointed out that the women
associated with introducing the word — Ms. Winfrey, the Miranda Bailey
character on “Grey’s Anatomy” — are middle-age African-Americans.

“The reason that vajayjay has caught on, I think, is because there is
a black — Southern especially — naming tradition, which is to have
names like Ray Ray and Boo Boo and things like that,” Dr. McWhorter
said. “It sounds warm and familiar and it almost makes the vagina feel
like a little cartoon character with eyes that walks around.”

“A very elegant, middle-aged black woman used that word in my presence
last week,” he added. “It’s a very O.K. word.”

At the same time, it is a word that someone like Joy Behar, a white
comedian and a host on “The View,” could not have popularized, Dr.
McWhorter said.

There have been at least 1,200 terms for the vagina in the history of
the English language, according to Steven Pinker, a psychology
professor at Harvard and the author of “The Stuff of Thought: Language
as a Window into Human Nature” (Viking, 2007).

This is because sexual subjects are always “emotionally fraught,” he
said, and each new euphemism eventually “gets contaminated” and
prompts “the search for yet another euphemism.”

HE calls it “the euphemism treadmill.” Such words arise, he said,
“because people want to make it perfectly clear to their listeners
that they are not bringing up the topic for prurient reasons.”

The reduplication in “jay-jay” is childlike, he said, like “pee pee or
doo doo,” and that “cleans up” the word.

As Joel McHale, the host of “The Soup,” put it: “It’s not derogatory.
It’s not ‘You’re being such a vajayjay right now.’ It’s kind of a
sweet thing.”

“Vajayjay,” he said, “is like your good buddy.”

Ultimately, what makes any word catch fire is a mystery, linguists
say. “Who could have predicted that the term for bulk e-mail would be
spam, from a 1970s Monty Python sketch?” Dr. Pinker said.

Long before “Grey’s Anatomy” set vajayjay on its course to being a
T-shirt-worthy catchphrase, it was used by some circles of women, on
blogs and, briefly, in Regena Thomashauer’s book about pleasure, “Mama
Gena’s School of Womanly Arts” (Simon & Schuster, 2002).

Shonda Rhimes, the creator and executive producer of “Grey’s Anatomy,”
who brought the word into full public view, never intended to promote
a euphemism or slang term for the female anatomy. Rather, she fought
to use vagina in the script.

“I had written an episode during the second season of ‘Grey’s’ in
which we used the word vagina a great many times (perhaps 11),” Ms.
Rhimes wrote in an e-mail message. “Now, we’d once used the word penis
17 times in a single episode and no one blinked. But with vagina, the
good folks at broadcast standards and practices blinked over and over
and over. I think no one is comfortable experiencing the female
anatomy out loud — which is a shame considering our anatomy is half
the population.”

Ms. Rhimes asked the show’s writers for alternative words, but it was
an assistant, Blythe Robe, who volunteered her own alias: vajayjay.
“As in ‘I’m off to the gynie to see about my vajayjay,’” Ms. Rhimes
said.

David Fiske, an F.C.C. spokesman, said that the agency does not
penalize networks for the number of times the words vagina and penis
are spoken. But if the words are used in a graphic and explicit
description of “sexual or excretory organs or activities,” he said, it
might contribute to a finding of indecency. “Context is a critical
factor,” he said.

Ms. Rhimes said it is an “absolute surprise” how a word she introduced
to appease her network’s guardians of taste has taken off.

K. P. Anderson and Edward Boyd, executive producers of “The Soup,”
think Ms. Winfrey is well aware she is promoting the word, based on
the sassy way she utters it and how she looks into the camera when
doing so. (Ms. Winfrey declined to be interviewed for this article.)

“It’s her ‘truthiness,’ ” Mr. Anderson said. “She’ll get it in the
dictionary if it kills us.”

Some people are not waiting for that formality.

“Now, vajayjay’s just a given for me,” Ms. Rhimes said. “It’s a word I
use, a word my female friends use, a word I’ve heard women in the
grocery store use. I don’t even think about where it came from
anymore. It doesn’t belong to me or anyone at the show. It belongs to
all women.”

* w w w .nytimes . com /2007/10/28/fashion/28vajayjay.html

Reply from: Me
Date: 10 May 2008, 19:17
Re: Inside Oprah's Va-jay-jay


"Ms. Vulvina Clitoridae" <bite@mynaughtybits.cum> wrote in message
news:13ib241683ndbv4j9phgrdkhkvpgtvvhr6@127.0.0.1...
> What Did You Call It?
>
> By Stephanie Rosenbloom
> THE NEW YORK TIMES
>
> THIS is the story of how a silly-sounding word reached the ear of a
> powerful television producer, and in only seconds of air time,
> expanded the vocabularies - for better or worse - of legions of women.
>
> It began on Feb. 12, 2006, when viewers of the ABC series "Grey's
> Anatomy" heard the character Miranda Bailey, a pregnant doctor who had
> gone into labor, admonish a male intern, "Stop looking at my
> vajayjay."
>
> The line sprang from an executive producer's need to mollify standards
> and practices executives who wanted the script to include fewer
> mentions of the word vagina.
>
> The scene, however, had the unintended effect of catapulting vajayjay
> (also written va-jay-jay) into mainstream speech. Fans of "Grey's
> Anatomy" expressed their approval of the word on message boards and
> blogs.
>
> The show's most noted fan, Oprah Winfrey, began using it on her show,
> effectively legitimizing it for some 46 million American viewers each
> week.
>
> "I think vajayjay is a nice word, don't you?" she asked her audience.
>
> Vajayjay found its way into electronic dictionaries like Urban
> Dictionary, Word Spy and Merriam-Webster's Open Dictionary. It was
> uttered on the television series "30 Rock." It was used on the Web
> site of "The Tyra Banks Show." Jimmy Kimmel said it in a monologue. It
> has appeared in the Web publications Salon and the Huffington Post and
> on the blog Wonkette.
>
> "The Soup," which highlights wacky television and celebrity moments on
> E! Entertainment Television, broadcast bits called "Oprah's
> Va-jay-jay." One featured a clip from "The Oprah Winfrey Show" at the
> Miraval resort in Tucson in which Ms. Winfrey, attached to a wire and
> wearing a harness around the lower half of her body, swings through
> the air and announces, "My vajayjay is paining me." A YouTube video
> set the clip to electronic music, with Ms. Winfrey as an unwitting
> M.C.
>
> The swift adoption of vajayjay is not simply about pop culture's
> ability to embrace new slang. Neologisms are always percolating. What
> this really demonstrates, say some linguists, is that there was a
> vacuum in popular discourse, a need for a word for female genitalia
> that is not clinical, crude, coy, misogynistic or descriptive of a
> vagina from a man's point of view.
>
> "There was a need for a pet name," said Geoffrey Nunberg, a linguist
> at the School of Information at the University of California,
> Berkeley, and the chairman of the usage panel for the American
> Heritage Dictionary, "a name that women can use in a familiar way
> among themselves."
>
> Acceptance of the word, however, also reignites an old argument, one
> most forcefully made by Eve Ensler in "The Vagina Monologues." Over a
> decade ago, Ms. Ensler wrote that "what we don't say becomes a secret,
> and secrets often create shame and fear and myths." Vagina, her widely
> performed series of monologues declared, is too often an "invisible
> word," one "that stirs up anxiety, awkwardness, contempt and disgust."
>
> Dr. Carol A. Livoti, a Manhattan obstetrician and gynecologist and an
> author of "Vaginas: An Owner's Manual" (Thunder's Mouth Press, 2004),
> said vajayjay and other euphemisms and slang offend her and can render
> women incapable of explaining their symptoms to health professionals.
> "I think it's terrible," Dr. Livoti said. "It's time to start calling
> anatomical organs by their anatomical name. We should be proud of our
> bodies."
>
> "It seems like a step backward," she added.
>
> In a voice-mail message left for a reporter, Gloria Steinem said she
> hopes the women using vajayjay are doing so because they think it is
> more descriptive than vagina, not because they are squeamish.
>
> Technically speaking, the vagina is the canal that leads from the
> uterus to the outside of the body, a fact that has led both Ms. Ensler
> and Ms. Steinem to write that vagina - while not a word that should be
> stigmatized - is inadequate because it is not inclusive enough. It
> does not, they have pointed out, include the labia and clitoris, the
> nerve-rich locus of a woman's sexual pleasure. "I'm hoping that the
> use of this new word is part of the objection to only saying vagina
> since it doesn't include all of women's genitalia, for instance the
> clitoris, in the way that vulva does," Ms. Steinem said.
>
> Another view was offered by John H. McWhorter, a linguist and a senior
> fellow at the Manhattan Institute, who pointed out that the women
> associated with introducing the word - Ms. Winfrey, the Miranda Bailey
> character on "Grey's Anatomy" - are middle-age African-Americans.
>
> "The reason that vajayjay has caught on, I think, is because there is
> a black - Southern especially - naming tradition, which is to have
> names like Ray Ray and Boo Boo and things like that," Dr. McWhorter
> said. "It sounds warm and familiar and it almost makes the vagina feel
> like a little cartoon character with eyes that walks around."
>
> "A very elegant, middle-aged black woman used that word in my presence
> last week," he added. "It's a very O.K. word."
>
> At the same time, it is a word that someone like Joy Behar, a white
> comedian and a host on "The View," could not have popularized, Dr.
> McWhorter said.
>
> There have been at least 1,200 terms for the vagina in the history of
> the English language, according to Steven Pinker, a psychology
> professor at Harvard and the author of "The Stuff of Thought: Language
> as a Window into Human Nature" (Viking, 2007).
>
> This is because sexual subjects are always "emotionally fraught," he
> said, and each new euphemism eventually "gets contaminated" and
> prompts "the search for yet another euphemism."
>
> HE calls it "the euphemism treadmill." Such words arise, he said,
> "because people want to make it perfectly clear to their listeners
> that they are not bringing up the topic for prurient reasons."
>
> The reduplication in "jay-jay" is childlike, he said, like "pee pee or
> doo doo," and that "cleans up" the word.
>
> As Joel McHale, the host of "The Soup," put it: "It's not derogatory.
> It's not 'You're being such a vajayjay right now.' It's kind of a
> sweet thing."
>
> "Vajayjay," he said, "is like your good buddy."
>
> Ultimately, what makes any word catch fire is a mystery, linguists
> say. "Who could have predicted that the term for bulk e-mail would be
> spam, from a 1970s Monty Python sketch?" Dr. Pinker said.
>
> Long before "Grey's Anatomy" set vajayjay on its course to being a
> T-shirt-worthy catchphrase, it was used by some circles of women, on
> blogs and, briefly, in Regena Thomashauer's book about pleasure, "Mama
> Gena's School of Womanly Arts" (Simon & Schuster, 2002).
>
> Shonda Rhimes, the creator and executive producer of "Grey's Anatomy,"
> who brought the word into full public view, never intended to promote
> a euphemism or slang term for the female anatomy. Rather, she fought
> to use vagina in the script.
>
> "I had written an episode during the second season of 'Grey's' in
> which we used the word vagina a great many times (perhaps 11)," Ms.
> Rhimes wrote in an e-mail message. "Now, we'd once used the word penis
> 17 times in a single episode and no one blinked. But with vagina, the
> good folks at broadcast standards and practices blinked over and over
> and over. I think no one is comfortable experiencing the female
> anatomy out loud - which is a shame considering our anatomy is half
> the population."
>
> Ms. Rhimes asked the show's writers for alternative words, but it was
> an assistant, Blythe Robe, who volunteered her own alias: vajayjay.
> "As in 'I'm off to the gynie to see about my vajayjay,'" Ms. Rhimes
> said.
>
> David Fiske, an F.C.C. spokesman, said that the agency does not
> penalize networks for the number of times the words vagina and penis
> are spoken. But if the words are used in a graphic and explicit
> description of "sexual or excretory organs or activities," he said, it
> might contribute to a finding of indecency. "Context is a critical
> factor," he said.
>
> Ms. Rhimes said it is an "absolute surprise" how a word she introduced
> to appease her network's guardians of taste has taken off.
>
> K. P. Anderson and Edward Boyd, executive producers of "The Soup,"
> think Ms. Winfrey is well aware she is promoting the word, based on
> the sassy way she utters it and how she looks into the camera when
> doing so. (Ms. Winfrey declined to be interviewed for this article.)
>
> "It's her 'truthiness,' " Mr. Anderson said. "She'll get it in the
> dictionary if it kills us."
>
> Some people are not waiting for that formality.
>
> "Now, vajayjay's just a given for me," Ms. Rhimes said. "It's a word I
> use, a word my female friends use, a word I've heard women in the
> grocery store use. I don't even think about where it came from
> anymore. It doesn't belong to me or anyone at the show. It belongs to
> all women."
>
> * w w w .nytimes . com /2007/10/28/fashion/28vajayjay.html

Interesting. A couple of weeks ago Callie said "I like penises!" Two
nights ago, Hahn asked, "Is it because I don't have a penis?"

I wonder if the words "rats" and "darn" will be targeted next.



Reply from: marybones@verizon . net
Date: 10 May 2008, 19:26
Re: Inside Oprah's Va-jay-jay

I have a Swedish friend who refers to hers, in all seriousness, as her
"vayina." Too cute. She also wants to drive a Yeep.

Reply from: Rockboy
Date: 10 May 2008, 19:52
Re: Inside Oprah's Va-jay-jay

marybones@verizon . net wrote:
> I have a Swedish friend who refers to hers, in all seriousness, as her
> "vayina." Too cute. She also wants to drive a Yeep.

Does she give blowyobs?

--
Rockboy

We suffice

Reply from: marybones@verizon . net
Date: 10 May 2008, 20:17
Re: Inside Oprah's Va-jay-jay

On May 10, 1:52 pm, Rockboy <rockboy@rockboy.. . net > wrote:
> marybo...@verizon . net wrote:
> > I have a Swedish friend who refers to hers, in all seriousness, as her
> > "vayina."  Too cute.  She also wants to drive a Yeep.
>
> Does she give blowyobs?
>
Her husband seems pretty happy, so I's guess Yes

And then there's the Iranian friend - hers is "moy vajoyna."

And yes, her husband is happy too - she probably gives blowjoys.

I love accents! My name is Mary, but in her accent it comes out
"Meedy."

Reply from: MC
Date: 10 May 2008, 21:23
Re: Inside Oprah's Va-jay-jay

In article
<85ecd60f-3416-470a-ab25-cf613eb237b8@c65g2000hsa.googlegroups . com >,
"marybones@verizon . net " <marybones@rcn . com > wrote:

> I have a Swedish friend who refers to hers, in all seriousness, as her
> "vayina." Too cute. She also wants to drive a Yeep.

Yumping yiminy!

Reply from: Lord Gow333, Conservative Fullback!
Date: 11 May 2008, 07:33
Re: Inside Oprah's Va-jay-jay


"Ms. Vulvina Clitoridae" <bite@mynaughtybits.cum> wrote in message
news:13ib241683ndbv4j9phgrdkhkvpgtvvhr6@127.0.0.1...

> Dr. Carol A. Livoti, a Manhattan obstetrician and gynecologist and an
> author of "Vaginas: An Owner's Manual" (Thunder's Mouth Press, 2004),

Most... appropriate... publisher... EVER!!!

LG
--
"Keep it simple. If it takes a genius to understand it, it will never work."
- Clarence Leonard "Kelly" Johnson


Reply from: steves67764@hotmail . com
Date: 11 May 2008, 18:35
Re: Inside Oprah's Va-jay-jay

The youngest Kardashian said vajayjay on a recent episode which was the
first I'd heard of it.

Reply from: steves67764@hotmail . com
Date: 11 May 2008, 18:38
Re: Inside Oprah's Va-jay-jay

steves67764@hotmail . com wrote:

>The youngest Kardashian said vajayjay on a recent episode which was the
>first I'd heard of it.

Oops, I guess her last name is Jenner actually.

Reply from: marybones@verizon . net
Date: 11 May 2008, 18:38
Re: Inside Oprah's Va-jay-jay

I just saw a rerun of SATC, where Samantha was in bed with a hot guy,
who totally broke the steamy mood when, at the critical juncture, he
said, in "sexy" baby-talk... "Does your vagina-wina want to say hello
to my Mister Mister?"

Reply from: AlicesDad@gmail . com
Date: 12 May 2008, 03:00
Re: Inside Oprah's Va-jay-jay

On May 11, 12:38 pm, "marybo...@verizon . net " <marybo...@rcn . com >
wrote:
> I just saw a rerun of SATC, where Samantha was in bed with a hot guy,
> who totally broke the steamy mood when, at the critical juncture, he
> said, in "sexy" baby-talk... "Does your vagina-wina want to say hello
> to my Mister Mister?"

==============

in the midst of sex it's
better to grunt and groan.

Reply from: Alan Smithee
Date: 13 May 2008, 15:28
Re: Va-Jay-Jay in a Jar

x-no-archive: yes

Instant Poon Tang, * w w w .smellmeand . com
(what will they think of next...)
---

ALMS




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