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where's the mower choke?

Reply from: Jerry
Date: 08 May 2008, 21:47
where's the mower choke?

I just started using a Craftsman II "30ne Plus" lawn mower, which was made
roughly a dozen years ago.

There is no control lever/cable for choke or throttle. There is a lever on the
body, for throttle. Near to that is some device: it has a soft black rubber
covering which is hollow, and shaped approximately like a 1" inverted cup.
There is a small hole in it. I can depress/collapse it, but not pull it. Is
that rubber thing related to a choke? If so, can it be set, or is it somehow
automatic?

Or is choking accomplished merely by setting the throttle lever to the minimum
position? If so, what's that black rubber thing for? Thanks.

Reply from: Cheri
Date: 08 May 2008, 22:05
Re: where's the mower choke?



Jerry wrote in message ...
>I just started using a Craftsman II "30ne Plus" lawn mower, which was
made
>roughly a dozen years ago.
>
>There is no control lever/cable for choke or throttle. There is a
lever on the
>body, for throttle. Near to that is some device: it has a soft black
rubber
>covering which is hollow, and shaped approximately like a 1" inverted
cup.
>There is a small hole in it. I can depress/collapse it, but not pull
it. Is
>that rubber thing related to a choke? If so, can it be set, or is it
somehow
>automatic?
>
>Or is choking accomplished merely by setting the throttle lever to
the minimum
>position? If so, what's that black rubber thing for? Thanks.

On mine, the soft black rubber covering is the choke, you have to push
it in and out four or five times before starting the mower.

Cheri



Reply from: Dan Espen
Date: 08 May 2008, 22:17
Re: where's the mower choke?

"Cheri" <gserviceatinreachdotcom> writes:

> Jerry wrote in message ...
>>I just started using a Craftsman II "30ne Plus" lawn mower, which was
> made
>>roughly a dozen years ago.
>>
>>There is no control lever/cable for choke or throttle. There is a
> lever on the
>>body, for throttle. Near to that is some device: it has a soft black
> rubber
>>covering which is hollow, and shaped approximately like a 1" inverted
> cup.
>>There is a small hole in it. I can depress/collapse it, but not pull
> it. Is
>>that rubber thing related to a choke? If so, can it be set, or is it
> somehow
>>automatic?
>>
>>Or is choking accomplished merely by setting the throttle lever to
> the minimum
>>position? If so, what's that black rubber thing for? Thanks.
>
> On mine, the soft black rubber covering is the choke, you have to push
> it in and out four or five times before starting the mower.

I think that's called a primer.

I've never seen a lawnmower with a manual choke and
I don't think they have automatic chokes. I think the
primer is all they need.

My latest mower doesn't have a throttle either.
Just as well, always ran it full out anyway.


Reply from: S. Barker
Date: 08 May 2008, 23:33
Re: where's the mower choke?

You've never seen a mower with a manual choke? What are you three years
old?

s


"Dan Espen" <daneNO@MORE.mk.SPAMtelcordia . com > wrote in message
news:icej8czh25.fsf@verizon . net ...
>>
> I think that's called a primer.
>
> I've never seen a lawnmower with a manual choke and
> I don't think they have automatic chokes. I think the
> primer is all they need.
>
> My latest mower doesn't have a throttle either.
> Just as well, always ran it full out anyway.
>



Reply from: Dan Espen
Date: 09 May 2008, 05:43
Re: where's the mower choke?

"S. Barker" <ichasetrains@coldmail . com > writes:

> "Dan Espen" <daneNO@MORE.mk.SPAMtelcordia . com > wrote in message
> news:icej8czh25.fsf@verizon . net ...
>>>
>> I think that's called a primer.
>>
>> I've never seen a lawnmower with a manual choke and
>> I don't think they have automatic chokes. I think the
>> primer is all they need.
>>
>> My latest mower doesn't have a throttle either.
>> Just as well, always ran it full out anyway.
>>
> You've never seen a mower with a manual choke? What are you three years
> old?

You're rude to strangers and you think I'm 3 years old?

I'm 62.

I know I had a car with a manual choke but can't remember the model.
Mowers, nope. Had lots of mowers too. Some even gas powered.

Reply from: dpb
Date: 09 May 2008, 06:34
Re: where's the mower choke?

Dan Espen wrote:
> "S. Barker" <ichasetrains@coldmail . com > writes:
>
>> "Dan Espen" <daneNO@MORE.mk.SPAMtelcordia . com > wrote in message
>> news:icej8czh25.fsf@verizon . net ...
>>> I think that's called a primer.
>>>
>>> I've never seen a lawnmower with a manual choke and
>>> I don't think they have automatic chokes. I think the
>>> primer is all they need.
>>>
>>> My latest mower doesn't have a throttle either.
>>> Just as well, always ran it full out anyway.
>>>
>> You've never seen a mower with a manual choke? What are you three years
>> old?
>
> You're rude to strangers and you think I'm 3 years old?
>
> I'm 62.
>
> I know I had a car with a manual choke but can't remember the model.
> Mowers, nope. Had lots of mowers too. Some even gas powered.

Just got off one w/ manual choke. Other one has one, too. Of course,
one's about 40-yrs old, the other "only" about 25 or so... :)

--

Reply from: Bob F
Date: 09 May 2008, 10:14
Re: where's the mower choke?


"Dan Espen" <daneNO@MORE.mk.SPAMtelcordia . com > wrote in message
news:icbq3gywed.fsf@verizon . net ...
> "S. Barker" <ichasetrains@coldmail . com > writes:
>
>> "Dan Espen" <daneNO@MORE.mk.SPAMtelcordia . com > wrote in message
>> news:icej8czh25.fsf@verizon . net ...
>>>>
>>> I think that's called a primer.
>>>
>>> I've never seen a lawnmower with a manual choke and
>>> I don't think they have automatic chokes. I think the
>>> primer is all they need.
>>>
>>> My latest mower doesn't have a throttle either.
>>> Just as well, always ran it full out anyway.
>>>
>> You've never seen a mower with a manual choke? What are you three years
>> old?
>
> You're rude to strangers and you think I'm 3 years old?
>
> I'm 62.
>
> I know I had a car with a manual choke but can't remember the model.
> Mowers, nope. Had lots of mowers too. Some even gas powered.

The mowers with "manual" chokes I've seen used a little higher than full
throttle setting to engage the choke.



Reply from: dpb
Date: 09 May 2008, 15:43
Re: where's the mower choke?

Bob F wrote:
...

> The mowers with "manual" chokes I've seen used a little higher than full
> throttle setting to engage the choke.

The "new" one here uses that modern innovation, the other two are
separate control levers... :)

--

Reply from: salty@dog . com
Date: 09 May 2008, 17:45
Re: where's the mower choke?

On Fri, 09 May 2008 08:43:09 -0500, dpb <none@non . net > wrote:

>Bob F wrote:
>...
>
>> The mowers with "manual" chokes I've seen used a little higher than full
>> throttle setting to engage the choke.
>
>The "new" one here uses that modern innovation, the other two are
>separate control levers... :)

MANY years ago, I had mowers that had a little "thumbgrip" on the carb
that you pulled out to choke the engine. The grip was on the end of a
tube that slid in and out. They also had a "tickler" to prime things
when needed.

The handlebar mounted choke levers came after that. More recent mowers
do not have a choke, but instead have a little rubber primer bulb. I
find this to be an improvement, and makes for a much easier to start
engine than in the good old days.



Reply from: S. Barker
Date: 09 May 2008, 16:42
Re: where's the mower choke?

You must be on a different planet then. I'm only 50 and i've never seen a
mower that didn't have a manual choke.

s

as for rude, maybe. But rude is funny 99.9% of the time.


"Dan Espen" <daneNO@MORE.mk.SPAMtelcordia . com > wrote in message
news:icbq3gywed.fsf@verizon . net ...
> "S. Barker" <ichasetrains@coldmail . com > writes:
>
>> "Dan Espen" <daneNO@MORE.mk.SPAMtelcordia . com > wrote in message
>> news:icej8czh25.fsf@verizon . net ...
>>>>
>>> I think that's called a primer.
>>>
>>> I've never seen a lawnmower with a manual choke and
>>> I don't think they have automatic chokes. I think the
>>> primer is all they need.
>>>
>>> My latest mower doesn't have a throttle either.
>>> Just as well, always ran it full out anyway.
>>>
>> You've never seen a mower with a manual choke? What are you three years
>> old?
>
> You're rude to strangers and you think I'm 3 years old?
>
> I'm 62.
>
> I know I had a car with a manual choke but can't remember the model.
> Mowers, nope. Had lots of mowers too. Some even gas powered.



Reply from: DerbyDad03
Date: 09 May 2008, 17:09
Re: where's the mower choke?

On May 9, 10:42 am, "S. Barker" <ichasetra...@coldmail . com > wrote:
> You must be on a different planet then.  I'm only 50 and i've never seen=
a
> mower that didn't have a manual choke.
>
> s
>
> as for rude, maybe.  But rude is funny 99.9% of the time.
>
> "Dan Espen" <dan...@MORE.mk.SPAMtelcordia . com > wrote in message
>
> news:icbq3gywed.fsf@verizon . net ...
>
>
>
> > "S. Barker" <ichasetra...@coldmail . com > writes:
>
> >> "Dan Espen" <dan...@MORE.mk.SPAMtelcordia . com > wrote in message
> >>news:icej8czh25.fsf@verizon . net ...
>
> >>> I think that's called a primer.
>
> >>> I've never seen a lawnmower with a manual choke and
> >>> I don't think they have automatic chokes.  I think the
> >>> primer is all they need.
>
> >>> My latest mower doesn't have a throttle either.
> >>> Just as well, always ran it full out anyway.
>
> >> You've never seen a mower with a manual choke?  What are you three ye=
ars
> >> old?
>
> > You're rude to strangers and you think I'm 3 years old?
>
> > I'm 62.
>
> > I know I had a car with a manual choke but can't remember the model.
> > Mowers, nope.  Had lots of mowers too.  Some even gas powered.- Hide=
quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

re: I'm only 50 and i've never seen a mower that didn't have a manual
choke.

Let's make sure we're making a rye grass to rye grass comparison here.

I'd hazard a guess and say that the vast majority of today's *walk-
behind* mowers do not have manual chokes.

On the other hand, anything that you ride - either stand or sit -
probably does.

Just guessing, don't be rude - errr - I mean funny - with me.

Reply from: S. Barker
Date: 10 May 2008, 08:45
Re: where's the mower choke?

I can only speak for the EXMARK walk behinds that the company i work for
has. They have 17HP Kawasaki engines and they have a manual choke.

And the toro self propelled push mower i personally own has a manual choke.

s



"DerbyDad03" <teamarrows@eznet . net > wrote in message
news:7cc85b63-af73-44a7-befe-1ebbddb0064f@y38g2000hsy.googlegroups . com ...

Let's make sure we're making a rye grass to rye grass comparison here.

I'd hazard a guess and say that the vast majority of today's *walk-
behind* mowers do not have manual chokes.

On the other hand, anything that you ride - either stand or sit -
probably does.

Just guessing, don't be rude - errr - I mean funny - with me.



Reply from: DerbyDad03
Date: 11 May 2008, 17:03
Re: where's the mower choke?

On May 10, 2:45 am, "S. Barker" <ichasetra...@coldmail . com > wrote:
> I can only speak for the EXMARK walk behinds that the company i work for
> has.  They have 17HP Kawasaki engines and they have a manual choke.

The devil's in the details. I think for the most part this thread is
about home-owner walk behinds. I don't know of any homeowners that own
17HP walk behinds...but technically you are right.

>
> And the toro self propelled push mower i personally own has a manual choke=
.

Interesting - what's it vintage?

>
> s
>
> "DerbyDad03" <teamarr...@eznet . net > wrote in message
>
> news:7cc85b63-af73-44a7-befe-1ebbddb0064f@y38g2000hsy.googlegroups . com ...
>
> Let's make sure we're making a rye grass to rye grass comparison here.
>
> I'd hazard a guess and say that the vast majority of today's *walk-
> behind* mowers do not have manual chokes.
>
> On the other hand, anything that you ride - either stand or sit -
> probably does.
>
> Just guessing, don't be rude - errr - I mean funny - with me.


Reply from: Dan Espen
Date: 09 May 2008, 19:06
Re: where's the mower choke?

"S. Barker" <ichasetrains@coldmail . com > writes:

> You must be on a different planet then. I'm only 50 and i've never seen a
> mower that didn't have a manual choke.

When you live as long as I have, there will be a lot of things
you've never seen.

:)

> as for rude, maybe. But rude is funny 99.9% of the time.

You need those smiley things or it doesn't come across
well on the Internet.

Reply from: Smitty Two
Date: 09 May 2008, 19:20
Re: where's the mower choke?

In article <ic8wyjz9sk.fsf@verizon . net >,
Dan Espen <daneNO@MORE.mk.SPAMtelcordia . com > wrote:

> "S. Barker" <ichasetrains@coldmail . com > writes:
>
> > You must be on a different planet then. I'm only 50 and i've never seen a
> > mower that didn't have a manual choke.
>
> When you live as long as I have, there will be a lot of things
> you've never seen.
>
> :)
>
> > as for rude, maybe. But rude is funny 99.9% of the time.
>
> You need those smiley things or it doesn't come across
> well on the Internet.

I hate those smiley things. I don't smile in real life when I make a dry
humor remark. That kind of spoils the dryness, doesn't it? Let the
stupid people think what they will.


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