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GE Window Air Conditioner ASM14L Qiestions

Reply from: Tom
Date: 11 May 2008, 15:44
GE Window Air Conditioner ASM14L Qiestions

I bought a GE window air conditioner ASM14L 14,000 BTU 115volt unit.
After installing the unit I noticed a couple of things that concern me.
What do you think?

The removable air filter is nothing more than plastic or nylon mesh. I
don't see how it's going to filter much of anything
and I don't see how I can add a a different filter.

The rear of the installed unit doesnot have a protective grill over the
cooling fins on the back of the unit. The rear of the case has indentations
and mounting holes for a rear protective grill. I called GE customer
service and was told the unit didnot ship w/ a protective grill for the the
cooling fins. Any suggestiuons how I can get a grill for the back?

Tom



Reply from: Edwin Pawlowski
Date: 11 May 2008, 17:49
Re: GE Window Air Conditioner ASM14L Qiestions


"Tom" <yahoo@earthlink . com > wrote in message
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>I bought a GE window air conditioner ASM14L 14,000 BTU 115volt unit.
> After installing the unit I noticed a couple of things that concern me.
> What do you think?
>
> The removable air filter is nothing more than plastic or nylon mesh. I
> don't see how it's going to filter much of anything
> and I don't see how I can add a a different filter.
>
> The rear of the installed unit doesnot have a protective grill over the
> cooling fins on the back of the unit. The rear of the case has
> indentations and mounting holes for a rear protective grill. I called GE
> customer service and was told the unit didnot ship w/ a protective grill
> for the the cooling fins. Any suggestiuons how I can get a grill for the
> back?
>
> Tom


Filter should be good enough. If you are talking about trying to use a HEPA
filter for allergies, get a free standing unit to clean the air. Filters on
an AC are to keep the coils clean, not to clean the air you breath.

As for the grill on back, most units stopped way back to save money. If you
feel the need, buy some expanded metal and screw it on the back. Just don't
put any screws through the coil or you trash the AC. The last AC I bought
with a full grill enclosure was over 25 years ago. The new ones are about
half the weight of the older models. Comes down to cost cutting and
competition. The bigger companies are building well over 5,000 units a day
so saving a buck in material and labor certainly adds up.



Reply from: Tom
Date: 12 May 2008, 00:40
Re: GE Window Air Conditioner ASM14L Qiestions


"Edwin Pawlowski" <esp@snet . net > wrote in message
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?
>>
>> The removable air filter is nothing more than plastic or nylon mesh. I
>> don't see how it's going to filter much of anything
>> and I don't see how I can add a a different filter.
>>
>> The rear of the installed unit doesnot have a protective grill over the
>> cooling fins on the back of the unit. The rear of the case has
>> indentations and mounting holes for a rear protective grill. I called GE
>> customer service and was told the unit didnot ship w/ a protective grill
>> for the the cooling fins. Any suggestiuons how I can get a grill for the
>> back?
>>
>> Tom
>
>
> Filter should be good enough. If you are talking about trying to use a
> HEPA filter for allergies, get a free standing unit to clean the air.
> Filters on an AC are to keep the coils clean, not to clean the air you
> breath.
>
> As for the grill on back, most units stopped way back to save money. If
> you feel the need, buy some expanded metal and screw it on the back. Just
> don't put any screws through the coil or you trash the AC. The last AC I
> bought with a full grill enclosure was over 25 years ago. The new ones
> are about half the weight of the older models. Comes down to cost cutting
> and competition. The bigger companies are building well over 5,000 units
> a day so saving a buck in material and labor certainly adds up.

Thanks for the clarification re: the filter and grill.

The rear of the air condition is on the house back porch. I've got to do
something to protect the cooling fins. I believe GE needs to offer the
protective grill as an extra cost option. As previously stated the case is
designed to accommodate a grill on the rear of the case.

tom



Reply from: KJPRO
Date: 12 May 2008, 07:05
Re: GE Window Air Conditioner ASM14L Qiestions


"Tom" <yahoo@earthlink . com > wrote in message
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>
> "Edwin Pawlowski" <esp@snet . net > wrote in message
> news:HzEVj.172$hJ5.71@nlpi068.nbdc.sbc . com ...
> ?
>>>
>>> The removable air filter is nothing more than plastic or nylon mesh. I
>>> don't see how it's going to filter much of anything
>>> and I don't see how I can add a a different filter.
>>>
>>> The rear of the installed unit doesnot have a protective grill over the
>>> cooling fins on the back of the unit. The rear of the case has
>>> indentations and mounting holes for a rear protective grill. I called
>>> GE customer service and was told the unit didnot ship w/ a protective
>>> grill for the the cooling fins. Any suggestiuons how I can get a grill
>>> for the back?
>>>
>>> Tom
>>
>>
>> Filter should be good enough. If you are talking about trying to use a
>> HEPA filter for allergies, get a free standing unit to clean the air.
>> Filters on an AC are to keep the coils clean, not to clean the air you
>> breath.
>>
>> As for the grill on back, most units stopped way back to save money. If
>> you feel the need, buy some expanded metal and screw it on the back.
>> Just don't put any screws through the coil or you trash the AC. The last
>> AC I bought with a full grill enclosure was over 25 years ago. The new
>> ones are about half the weight of the older models. Comes down to cost
>> cutting and competition. The bigger companies are building well over
>> 5,000 units a day so saving a buck in material and labor certainly adds
>> up.
>
> Thanks for the clarification re: the filter and grill.
>
> The rear of the air condition is on the house back porch.


Your quote from a reply to my post...
"My house is end of group and exposed to an alley. It really does need a
protective grill."

Which is it... porch or alley????





Reply from: Tekkie®
Date: 12 May 2008, 22:49
Re: GE Window Air Conditioner ASM14L Qiestions

KJPRO posted for all of us...

>
> "Tom" <yahoo@earthlink . com > wrote in message
> news:NBKVj.7649$5b3.5889@trnddc05...
> >
> > "Edwin Pawlowski" <esp@snet . net > wrote in message
> > news:HzEVj.172$hJ5.71@nlpi068.nbdc.sbc . com ...
> > ?
> >>>
> >>> The removable air filter is nothing more than plastic or nylon mesh. I
> >>> don't see how it's going to filter much of anything
> >>> and I don't see how I can add a a different filter.
> >>>
> >>> The rear of the installed unit doesnot have a protective grill over the
> >>> cooling fins on the back of the unit. The rear of the case has
> >>> indentations and mounting holes for a rear protective grill. I called
> >>> GE customer service and was told the unit didnot ship w/ a protective
> >>> grill for the the cooling fins. Any suggestiuons how I can get a grill
> >>> for the back?
> >>>
> >>> Tom
> >>
> >>
> >> Filter should be good enough. If you are talking about trying to use a
> >> HEPA filter for allergies, get a free standing unit to clean the air.
> >> Filters on an AC are to keep the coils clean, not to clean the air you
> >> breath.
> >>
> >> As for the grill on back, most units stopped way back to save money. If
> >> you feel the need, buy some expanded metal and screw it on the back.
> >> Just don't put any screws through the coil or you trash the AC. The last
> >> AC I bought with a full grill enclosure was over 25 years ago. The new
> >> ones are about half the weight of the older models. Comes down to cost
> >> cutting and competition. The bigger companies are building well over
> >> 5,000 units a day so saving a buck in material and labor certainly adds
> >> up.
> >
> > Thanks for the clarification re: the filter and grill.
> >
> > The rear of the air condition is on the house back porch.
>
>
> Your quote from a reply to my post...
> "My house is end of group and exposed to an alley. It really does need a
> protective grill."
>
> Which is it... porch or alley????
>
>
>
>
>
The porch sits in the alley??? Maybe he needs the grill to protect it from the
trash trucks going down his alley and over his porch.

Hmmm, why didn't he ask GE when he was on the phone? Duhhh
--
Tekkie GRIP = Get Rid of Incumbent Politicians

Reply from: Tom
Date: 13 May 2008, 00:17
Re: GE Window Air Conditioner ASM14L Qiestions


"Tekkie®" <Tekkie@comcast . net > wrote in message
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> KJPRO posted for all of us...
>
>>
>> "Tom" <yahoo@earthlink . com > wrote in message
>> news:NBKVj.7649$5b3.5889@trnddc05...

> The porch sits in the alley??? Maybe he needs the grill to protect it
> from the
> trash trucks going down his alley and over his porch.
>
> Hmmm, why didn't he ask GE when he was on the phone? Duhhh

Eeerrrr. . . .ahhhh..... I did ask GE.



Reply from: Tom
Date: 13 May 2008, 00:16
Re: GE Window Air Conditioner ASM14L Qiestions


"KJPRO" <KJPRO @ NEWS . COM> wrote in message
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>
> "Tom" <yahoo@earthlink . com > wrote in message
> news:NBKVj.7649$5b3.5889@trnddc05...
>>
>> "Edwin Pawlowski" <esp@snet . net > wrote in message

> Your quote from a reply to my post...
> "My house is end of group and exposed to an alley. It really does need a
> protective grill."
>
> Which is it... porch or alley????


Both. Porch and alley.



Reply from: Bubba
Date: 11 May 2008, 19:12
Re: GE Window Air Conditioner ASM14L Qiestions

On Sun, 11 May 2008 13:44:21 GMT, "Tom" <yahoo@earthlink . com > wrote:

>I bought a GE window air conditioner ASM14L 14,000 BTU 115volt unit.
>After installing the unit I noticed a couple of things that concern me.
>What do you think?
>
>The removable air filter is nothing more than plastic or nylon mesh. I
>don't see how it's going to filter much of anything
>and I don't see how I can add a a different filter.
>
>The rear of the installed unit doesnot have a protective grill over the
>cooling fins on the back of the unit. The rear of the case has indentations
>and mounting holes for a rear protective grill. I called GE customer
>service and was told the unit didnot ship w/ a protective grill for the the
>cooling fins. Any suggestiuons how I can get a grill for the back?
>
>Tom
>

Tom,
Let me answer you this way...........
I will be happy to install a Aprilaire model 5000 for you on your
current new window unit. As a nice upgrade I will install a Sanuvox
4500 UV light system to augment the air cleaning for$850. I will need
to have a transition made for the air cleaner and a power source
(outlet) for them both.
It should run you about $1200 installed for the air cleaner + any
travel expenses I incur.
How does that compare to $200ish dollars you paid for the winder
shaker?
Are you catching on now?
Bubba

Reply from: Tom
Date: 12 May 2008, 00:43
Re: GE Window Air Conditioner ASM14L Qiestions


"Bubba" <LiKeAlAkEremove@iname . com > wrote in message
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>
> Tom,
> Let me answer you this way...........
> I will be happy to install a Aprilaire model 5000 for you on your
> current new window unit. As a nice upgrade I will install a Sanuvox
> 4500 UV light system to augment the air cleaning for$850. I will need
> to have a transition made for the air cleaner and a power source
> (outlet) for them both.
> It should run you about $1200 installed for the air cleaner + any
> travel expenses I incur.
> How does that compare to $200ish dollars you paid for the winder
> shaker?
> Are you catching on now?
> Bubba

Eeer . . . .aaahhhhh. bubba I'll pass the aprilaire unit.
BTW, the GE AC was $690.00 installed including taxes and removal of the old
unit.

t.



Reply from: Bubba
Date: 12 May 2008, 12:55
Re: GE Window Air Conditioner ASM14L Qiestions

On Sun, 11 May 2008 22:43:26 GMT, "Tom" <yahoo@earthlink . com > wrote:

>
>"Bubba" <LiKeAlAkEremove@iname . com > wrote in message
>news:mu9e24tj2n5lgnobvarqf1a4ud9lg9q2h7@4ax . com ...
>
>>
>> Tom,
>> Let me answer you this way...........
>> I will be happy to install a Aprilaire model 5000 for you on your
>> current new window unit. As a nice upgrade I will install a Sanuvox
>> 4500 UV light system to augment the air cleaning for$850. I will need
>> to have a transition made for the air cleaner and a power source
>> (outlet) for them both.
>> It should run you about $1200 installed for the air cleaner + any
>> travel expenses I incur.
>> How does that compare to $200ish dollars you paid for the winder
>> shaker?
>> Are you catching on now?
>> Bubba
>
>Eeer . . . .aaahhhhh. bubba I'll pass the aprilaire unit.
>BTW, the GE AC was $690.00 installed including taxes and removal of the old
>unit.
>
>t.
>
Tom,
$690?? Here was just a very quick check.
* w w w .overstock . com /Home-Garden/Maytag-14-000BTU-Window-Air-Conditioner/3136664/product.html?
OR... you could buy two or three of these.......
* w w w .absolutehome . com /web/catalog/product_detail.aspx?pid=230703&cm_ven=Amazon&cm_cat=Appliances&cm_pla=Frigidaire&cm_ite=Frigidaire-Air%20Conditioners-230703&cid=0223A215E8C2B6F75C0F5F96B9779ECA
Exactly what did you pay to have that window lifted and then closed?
Bubba

Reply from: Tom
Date: 13 May 2008, 13:20
Re: GE Window Air Conditioner ASM14L Qiestions


"Bubba" <LiKeAlAkEremove@iname . com > wrote in message
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> On Sun, 11 May 2008 22:43:26 GMT, "Tom" <yahoo@earthlink . com > wrote:
>>
> Tom,
> $690?? Here was just a very quick check.
> * w w w .overstock . com /Home-Garden/Maytag-14-000BTU-Window-Air-Conditioner/3136664/product.html?
> OR... you could buy two or three of these.......
> * w w w .absolutehome . com /web/catalog/product_detail.aspx?pid=230703&cm_ven=Amazon&cm_cat=Appliances&cm_pla=Frigidaire&cm_ite=Frigidaire-Air%20Conditioners-230703&cid=0223A215E8C2B6F75C0F5F96B9779ECA
> Exactly what did you pay to have that window lifted and then closed?
> Bubba

Bubba, top priorities quick cool down and quiet. The GE unit istops in both
areas according to Consumers report.
Also, it's the most difficult to install. I'm not going through the hassle
of buying a 14,000BTU unit via the internet then spending a few hours
installing it. The extra couple of hundred is worth it to me.



Reply from: Bubba
Date: 14 May 2008, 03:43
Re: GE Window Air Conditioner ASM14L Qiestions

On Tue, 13 May 2008 11:20:53 GMT, "Tom" <yahoo@earthlink . com > wrote:

>
>"Bubba" <LiKeAlAkEremove@iname . com > wrote in message
>news:tu7g24pavo2t3f3b17e5vaufl5gmk8cne5@4ax . com ...
>> On Sun, 11 May 2008 22:43:26 GMT, "Tom" <yahoo@earthlink . com > wrote:
>>>
>> Tom,
>> $690?? Here was just a very quick check.
>> * w w w .overstock . com /Home-Garden/Maytag-14-000BTU-Window-Air-Conditioner/3136664/product.html?
>> OR... you could buy two or three of these.......
>> * w w w .absolutehome . com /web/catalog/product_detail.aspx?pid=230703&cm_ven=Amazon&cm_cat=Appliances&cm_pla=Frigidaire&cm_ite=Frigidaire-Air%20Conditioners-230703&cid=0223A215E8C2B6F75C0F5F96B9779ECA
>> Exactly what did you pay to have that window lifted and then closed?
>> Bubba
>
>Bubba, top priorities quick cool down and quiet. The GE unit istops in both
>areas according to Consumers report.
>Also, it's the most difficult to install. I'm not going through the hassle
>of buying a 14,000BTU unit via the internet then spending a few hours
>installing it. The extra couple of hundred is worth it to me.
>

Quick cool down? If it is sized to cool down quickly then it is
probably an oversized unit. This will cause uncomfortable high
humidity conditions, potential mold growth and higher operating costs.
Tops in both?
Bull shit. Any oversized unit will cool down quickly. Its the ability
of things called BTU's.
Most difficult to install?
How the hell hard is it to open a window, set in a window shaker and
close the window? If you like to pay hundreds to accomplish that, I
believe I have a bridge Id like to sell you...........very, very
cheap.
There's nothing wrong with "more money than brains". Those are my
favorite customers.
Bubba

Reply from: Noon-Air
Date: 12 May 2008, 13:51
Re: GE Window Air Conditioner ASM14L Qiestions


"Tom" <yahoo@earthlink . com > wrote in message
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>
> "Bubba" <LiKeAlAkEremove@iname . com > wrote in message
> news:mu9e24tj2n5lgnobvarqf1a4ud9lg9q2h7@4ax . com ...
>
>>
>> Tom,
>> Let me answer you this way...........
>> I will be happy to install a Aprilaire model 5000 for you on your
>> current new window unit. As a nice upgrade I will install a Sanuvox
>> 4500 UV light system to augment the air cleaning for$850. I will need
>> to have a transition made for the air cleaner and a power source
>> (outlet) for them both.
>> It should run you about $1200 installed for the air cleaner + any
>> travel expenses I incur.
>> How does that compare to $200ish dollars you paid for the winder
>> shaker?
>> Are you catching on now?
>> Bubba
>
> Eeer . . . .aaahhhhh. bubba I'll pass the aprilaire unit.
> BTW, the GE AC was $690.00 installed including taxes and removal of the
> old unit.

There's one born every minute... I hope you got kissed afterwords....
17,500btu for $317 and 10,000 for $208 at Sams Club


Reply from: Tom
Date: 13 May 2008, 13:21
Re: GE Window Air Conditioner ASM14L Qiestions


"Noon-Air" <Noon-Air@comcast . net > wrote in message
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unit.
>
> There's one born every minute... I hope you got kissed afterwords....
> 17,500btu for $317 and 10,000 for $208 at Sams Club


Sam's Club doesn't sell 14K BTU GE units.



Reply from: Chris Hill
Date: 11 May 2008, 20:01
Re: GE Window Air Conditioner ASM14L Qiestions

On Sun, 11 May 2008 13:44:21 GMT, "Tom" <yahoo@earthlink . com > wrote:

>I bought a GE window air conditioner ASM14L 14,000 BTU 115volt unit.
>After installing the unit I noticed a couple of things that concern me.
>What do you think?
>
>The removable air filter is nothing more than plastic or nylon mesh. I
>don't see how it's going to filter much of anything
>and I don't see how I can add a a different filter.
>
>The rear of the installed unit doesnot have a protective grill over the
>cooling fins on the back of the unit. The rear of the case has indentations
>and mounting holes for a rear protective grill. I called GE customer
>service and was told the unit didnot ship w/ a protective grill for the the
>cooling fins. Any suggestiuons how I can get a grill for the back?
>
>Tom

Don't think I've ever seen one with a grill over the back. Unless you
have people who like to throw rocks or baseballs, I wouldn't worry
about it. The filter seems to be what is done now-a-days. I guess
all the moisture collecting on the evaborator will help keep it clean.

>



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