Home shower drip repair (how do I get the Delta faucet apart)?

Home shower drip repair (how do I get the Delta faucet apart)?

Can you help me get my Delta shower faucet apart so I can stop an annoying
drip?

I'm stuck - I don't know how to get the shower faucet apart?
- I removed the two bolts holding the back plate on
- I removed the set screw holding the handle on
- I removed the sleeve around the brass thing that turns
And ... I'm basically stuck here ... I can't see what next to remove.

I posted 15 pictures of the steps here
* w w w .flickr . com /photos/donnaohl/sets/72157603940232052/

Can you help me with the next step to dissaembly of this Delta shower
faucet?

Thank you,
Donna

Re: Home shower drip repair (how do I get the Delta faucet apart)?

> I'm stuck - I don't know how to get the shower faucet apart?
> I posted 15 pictures of the steps here
> * w w w .flickr . com /photos/donnaohl/sets/72157603940232052/

It might be hard to see the key pics so to help you help me, I just made
extensive annotations of the pics for you to help me.

This is basically where I started
* w w w .flickr . com /photos/donnaohl/2484369038/in/set-72157603940232052/

And, this is basically where I'm stuck!
* w w w .flickr . com /photos/donnaohl/2483559087/in/set-72157603940232052/

Do you know what next to remove to get this Delta shower faucet apart?
Thanks,
Donna

Re: Home shower drip repair (how do I get the Delta faucet apart)?

"Donna" <donnaohl26@yahoo . com > wrote in message
news:g07n6d$197$1@aioe.org...
>> I'm stuck - I don't know how to get the shower faucet apart?
>> I posted 15 pictures of the steps here
>> * w w w .flickr . com /photos/donnaohl/sets/72157603940232052/
>
> It might be hard to see the key pics so to help you help me, I just made
> extensive annotations of the pics for you to help me.
>
> This is basically where I started
> * w w w .flickr . com /photos/donnaohl/2484369038/in/set-72157603940232052/
>
> And, this is basically where I'm stuck!
> * w w w .flickr . com /photos/donnaohl/2483559087/in/set-72157603940232052/
>
> Do you know what next to remove to get this Delta shower faucet apart?
> Thanks,
> Donna


Great picture, but I can't help. Try poking around here:

* w w w .deltafaucet . com /wps/portal/deltacom/kcxml/04_Sj9SPykssy0xPLMnMz0vM0Y_QjzKLN7SMN_byAckB2ebxYY76kaiCAfFmTkhiQfre-r4e-bmp-gH6BbmhEeWOjooAynHWWg!!/delta/base64xml/L2dJQSEvUUt3QS80SVVFLzZfMTlfM0pT

Or, the shorter version:

* tinyurl . com /64rlmo

Re: Home shower drip repair (how do I get the Delta faucet apart)?

Donna,

Try going to Home Depot et al, and find the "kit" that repairs
your faucet. Then you will be able to identify what needs to come out.
Note that you will probably need to grab onto that metal post sticking
out, with a pliers, and just pull it out, and whatever is attached to
it (probably a valve). .Make sure you have removed whatever parts are
holding the valve in before trying to pull it out. It might be hard
to get out, even with all the obstructions removed. If the Delta is
like other faucets, you just need to pull out the old "valve", and
insert the new one. (PLus all the other parts) Around $15 to $20 at
home depot probably.


Great pictures, btw.

Re: Home shower drip repair (how do I get the Delta faucet apart)?

On Sun, 11 May 2008 15:52:35 -0700 (PDT), caloo calay wrote:

> Try going to Home Depot et al, and find the "kit" that repairs
> your faucet. Then you will be able to identify what needs to come out.

Hi Caloo Calay,
I did go to Home Depot, armed with the printout of the photographs.

Unfortunately, we didn't find ANYTHING that matched this faucet!
The store person suggested I take the Delta faucet apart and come in with
the parts in my hand.

Of course, that's where the problem is.
I can't figure out the next step in disassembly.
* w w w .flickr . com /photos/donnaohl/2484557563/in/set-72157603940232052/

It looks like two options were suggested here:
a) Cut away the escutcheon with a knife and see if there is something
behind it to remove ... or ...
b) Grab the post sticking out with channel locks and try to twist it out by
force ...

To get a better handle on the next step (i.e., a or b above), I tried
calling Delta Customer Support at 1-800-345-DELTA (800-345-3358) but they
were closed for the weekend. So I emailed them at
customerservice@deltafaucet . com and I hope to get a response.

Meanwhile, I appreciate any and all help you guys can provide as it's not
obvious to me, and, whatever you help with, the next person with the same
problem will have this information in the archives to benefit from.

Donna

Re: Home shower drip repair (how do I get the Delta faucet apart)?

On Sun, 11 May 2008 17:40:41 -0400, JoeSpareBedroom wrote:

> * tinyurl . com /64rlmo

Hi Joe,
That was a great idea to poke around the Delta site.
* w w w .deltafaucet . com /wps/portal/deltacom/kcxml/04_Sj9SPykssy0xPLMnMz0vM0Y_QjzKLNzSPN3cNBMmB2WGO-pGoggHxZk5IYkH63vq-Hvm5qfoB-gW5oRHljo6KAB45wpM!/delta/base64xml/L3dJdyEvd0ZNQUFzQUMvNElVRS82XzE3XzdFUg!!?WCM_GLOBAL_CONTEXT= * render1.deltafaucet . com /wps/wcm/connect/w w w .deltafaucet . com /Customer+Support/Frequently+Asked+Questions/Leaks/My+Tub+or+Shower+faucet+leaks

I found this exploded diagram:
* tinyurl . com /5fb5y3
Which I reproduced in the slide show on flickr at:

* w w w .flickr . com /photos/donnaohl/sets/72157603940232052/show/with/2484362698/

Specifically, it's this picture in the set:
* w w w .flickr . com /photos/donnaohl/2484557563/in/set-72157603940232052/

I see some people say to remove the "escutcheon" and others say leave it
be. Unfortunately, from the exploded diagram above, I can't tell still how
to remove the "cartridge".

Can someone confirm if I have to remove the escutcheon (which means cutting
it away from the tile since it seems glued in) or if I have to somehow
twist out the "cartridge"?

Thanks for your help - without you - I'd never have the courage to try
this!

Donna

Re: Home shower drip repair (how do I get the Delta faucet apart)?

On May 11, 9:45 pm, Donna <donnaoh...@yahoo . com > wrote:
> On Sun, 11 May 2008 17:40:41 -0400, JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
> > * tinyurl . com /64rlmo
>
> Hi Joe,
> That was a great idea to poke around the Delta site. * w w w .deltafaucet . com /wps/portal/deltacom/kcxml/04 Sj9SPykssy0xP...
>
> I found this exploded diagram:
> * tinyurl . com /5fb5y3
> Which I reproduced in the slide show on flickr at:
>
> * w w w .flickr . com /photos/donnaohl/sets/72157603940232052/show/wit...
>
> Specifically, it's this picture in the set: * w w w .flickr . com /photos/donnaohl/2484557563/in/set-7215760394023...
>
> I see some people say to remove the "escutcheon" and others say leave it
> be. Unfortunately, from the exploded diagram above, I can't tell still how
> to remove the "cartridge".
>
> Can someone confirm if I have to remove the escutcheon (which means cutting
> it away from the tile since it seems glued in) or if I have to somehow
> twist out the "cartridge"?
>
> Thanks for your help - without you - I'd never have the courage to try
> this!
>
> Donna

The diagram is for a "ball type" Delta faucet, which is not what you
have. Spin the brass ring off with a pipe wrench or channellocks
(gently) and then pull the cartridge out. MAKE SURE YOU HAVE THE
WATER OFF, and let the water pressure out of hot and cold before you
do this, or you will get really wet, and might send parts flying as
you take it apart.

Here is a pictorial of what you need to do, but I still don't think
you need to take off the escutcheon.

* w w w .hammerzone . com /archives/plumbing/bathtub/faucet1/deltarot/replseal.html


JK

Re: Home shower drip repair (how do I get the Delta faucet apart)?

On May 11, 8:06 pm, Big Jake <I.do.realest...@gmail . com > wrote:
> Here is a pictorial of what you need to do, but I still don't think
> you need to take off the escutcheon.
> * w w w .hammerzone . com /archives/plumbing/bathtub/faucet1/deltarot/...

My comments on the handyman article should you attempt this repair
yourselves.
* w w w .hammerzone . com /archives/plumbing/bathtub/faucet1/deltarot/replsea=
l.html
* tinyurl . com /4y3bwl

They were omnipotent when they said "we had to study the situation for
a few minutes before we realized that the brass collar was actually a
separate part from the rest of the brass valve housing" and "Once the
retaining collar was removed, the rest was obvious." The same ideas
were expressed in this thread.

But the actual steps they took in that handyman article were wrong not
only because they used pliars instead of a strap wrench but because
they took apart parts that even they didn't use so they never needed
to take apart those part in the first place. There was no need to pry
off the o ring on the tip of the valve and to pry off the brass
temperature limit valve either. They were just blindly taking things
apart because they could not because they should.

Otherwise it was a good article and the pictures are excellent.
Combined with this thread I would think someone could now do the job
in about ten minutes.
They even explained why there is a screw hole which isn't used in a
handle shower faucet but which is used in a knob shower faucet.

Re: Home shower drip repair (how do I get the Delta faucet apart)?

On Sun, 11 May 2008 14:07:46 -0700, Donna <donnaohl26@yahoo . com >
wrote:

>> I'm stuck - I don't know how to get the shower faucet apart?
>> I posted 15 pictures of the steps here
>> * w w w .flickr . com /photos/donnaohl/sets/72157603940232052/
>
>It might be hard to see the key pics so to help you help me, I just made
>extensive annotations of the pics for you to help me.
>
>This is basically where I started
> * w w w .flickr . com /photos/donnaohl/2484369038/in/set-72157603940232052/
>
>And, this is basically where I'm stuck!
> * w w w .flickr . com /photos/donnaohl/2483559087/in/set-72157603940232052/
>
>Do you know what next to remove to get this Delta shower faucet apart?
>Thanks,
>Donna

IIRC, you need to remove the escutcheon (The big silver plate that
covers the hole) In behind it, you'll probably find a big U shaped
brass or spring steel retainer clip that holds the plastic cartridge
in place in the housing. Pull up on it to remove it. The little
brass limit stop on the front of the white cartridge in you picture
usually slips off, the cartridge gets set to the noon position, and
with the retainer clip off, the cartridge slips right out coming
forward. If you have to use any significant force you are doing
something wrong. The only things keeping it in place at that point
are a couple of O-rings.

Re: Home shower drip repair (how do I get the Delta faucet apart)?

On Sun, 11 May 2008 17:48:38 -0600, hchickpea@hotmail . com wrote:

> IIRC, you need to remove the escutcheon (The big silver plate that
> covers the hole) In behind it, you'll probably find a big U shaped
> brass or spring steel retainer clip that holds the plastic cartridge
> in place in the housing. Pull up on it to remove it.

Here's a Delta diagram of what's behind the "escutcheon".
* w w w .flickr . com /photos/donnaohl/2484557563/in/set-72157603940232052/

That exploded diagram might help you understand what's next - but - it
doesn't help me figure out what's the next part to remove.

I've heard two different answers ... which one is the right one?

That is, should I cut off the escutcheon with a knife or should I try to
pull or twist the brass tube thingey with channel locks?

Donna

Re: Home shower drip repair (how do I get the Delta faucet apart)?

On May 11, 4:07 pm, Donna <donnaoh...@yahoo . com > wrote:
> > I'm stuck - I don't know how to get the shower faucet apart?
> > I posted 15 pictures of the steps here
> > * w w w .flickr . com /photos/donnaohl/sets/72157603940232052/
>
> It might be hard to see the key pics so to help you help me, I just made
> extensive annotations of the pics for you to help me.
>
> This is basically where I started * w w w .flickr . com /photos/donnaohl/2484369038/in/set-7215760394023...
>
> And, this is basically where I'm stuck! * w w w .flickr . com /photos/donnaohl/2483559087/in/set-7215760394023...
>
> Do you know what next to remove to get this Delta shower faucet apart?
> Thanks,
> Donna

The big brass ring that you point to and say "This doesn't have a flat
spot" needs to come off, with Channellocks or a pipe wrench (gently).
It spins off counter-clockwise. It is holding the cartridge in (the
main white plastic part). Typically Delta's have a couple of rubber
"cups" on the back of the cartridge that can be replaced to stop a
leak. If the cartridge is bad, it will be pretty expensive. The last
one like yours I had to replace had frozen. :-(

JK

Re: Home shower drip repair (how do I get the Delta faucet apart)?

On May 11, 7:39 pm, Big Jake <I.do.realest...@gmail . com > wrote:
> On May 11, 4:07 pm, Donna <donnaoh...@yahoo . com > wrote:
>
> > > I'm stuck - I don't know how to get the shower faucet apart?
> > > I posted 15 pictures of the steps here
> > > * w w w .flickr . com /photos/donnaohl/sets/72157603940232052/
>
> > It might be hard to see the key pics so to help you help me, I just made
> > extensive annotations of the pics for you to help me.
>
> > This is basically where I started * w w w .flickr . com /photos/donnaohl/2484369038/in/set-7215760394023...
>
> > And, this is basically where I'm stuck! * w w w .flickr . com /photos/donnaohl/2483559087/in/set-7215760394023...
>
> > Do you know what next to remove to get this Delta shower faucet apart?
> > Thanks,
> > Donna
>
> The big brass ring that you point to and say "This doesn't have a flat
> spot" needs to come off, with Channellocks or a pipe wrench (gently).
> It spins off counter-clockwise. It is holding the cartridge in (the
> main white plastic part). Typically Delta's have a couple of rubber
> "cups" on the back of the cartridge that can be replaced to stop a
> leak. If the cartridge is bad, it will be pretty expensive. The last
> one like yours I had to replace had frozen. :-(
>
> JK

Gosh I hope you turned the water off, both sides, first...

JK

Re: Home shower drip repair (how do I get the Delta faucet apart)?

On Sun, 11 May 2008 17:55:57 -0700 (PDT), Big_Jake wrote:

> Gosh I hope you turned the water off, both sides, first...

Ooops. No. I just turned the handle to shut the water off.
I guess I better turn the water off at the main inlet huh?
I didn't think of that - but then - I didn't get to that part yet.
(It wouldn't have been my first disaster, mind you!).

Without you guys, I'd never have the courage to attempt these jobs!
Thanks for your help ...

I guess I'll try the channellocks on the brass part, twisting it counter
clockwise - to see if something happens.

Donna

Re: Home shower drip repair (how do I get the Delta faucet apart)?

Did you buy the repair kit? Did it not come with instructions? Note: I
know the first step: Turn off both hot and cold water supply. :-)

"Donna" <donnaohl26@yahoo . com > wrote in message
news:g07mpj$v2l$1@aioe.org...
> Can you help me get my Delta shower faucet apart so I can stop an annoying
> drip?
>
> I'm stuck - I don't know how to get the shower faucet apart?
> - I removed the two bolts holding the back plate on
> - I removed the set screw holding the handle on
> - I removed the sleeve around the brass thing that turns
> And ... I'm basically stuck here ... I can't see what next to remove.
>
> I posted 15 pictures of the steps here
> * w w w .flickr . com /photos/donnaohl/sets/72157603940232052/
>
> Can you help me with the next step to dissaembly of this Delta shower
> faucet?
>
> Thank you,
> Donna


--
Joseph Meehan

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Re: Home shower drip repair (how do I get the Delta faucet apart)?

On Sun, 11 May 2008 18:45:37 -0400, Joseph Meehan wrote:

> Did you buy the repair kit? Did it not come with instructions?

Hi Joseph Meehan,

This advise sounds easy but in fact you can't buy the repair kit, at least
at the Home Depot I visited with pictures in my hand - until you positively
identify the faucet.

And, it turns out, you can't positively identify which repair kit to use
until you take apart the faucet (at least according to Home Depot).

Which brings us back to square one ... how to disassemble the Delta shower
faucet to repair a leak?

Donna