They Lied About Those DVD+RW Discs

They Lied About Those DVD+RW Discs

Word is that full discs do not need to be erased. In other words, you
can record a TV program over the contents of a full +RW disc.

Didn't work for me.

So how *do* your erase a +RW disc? Thanks

Re: They Lied About Those DVD+RW Discs

On Sun, 11 May 2008 21:38:01 GMT, Windswept@Home (J) wrote:

>Word is that full discs do not need to be erased. In other words, you
>can record a TV program over the contents of a full +RW disc.
>
>Didn't work for me.
>
>So how *do* your erase a +RW disc? Thanks


With the erase command in your burner program. It should be under
utilities or tools

Re: They Lied About Those DVD+RW Discs

On Sun, 11 May 2008 17:50:06 -0400, gfretwell@aol . com wrote:

>On Sun, 11 May 2008 21:38:01 GMT, Windswept@Home (J) wrote:
>
>>Word is that full discs do not need to be erased. In other words, you
>>can record a TV program over the contents of a full +RW disc.
>>
>>Didn't work for me.
>>
>>So how *do* your erase a +RW disc? Thanks
>
>
>With the erase command in your burner program. It should be under
>utilities or tools

I think he's asking how to erase them in his DVD recorder attached to his
TV. Obviously it's easier on the computer.
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Re: They Lied About Those DVD+RW Discs

EGK wrote:
> On Sun, 11 May 2008 17:50:06 -0400, gfretwell@aol . com wrote:
>
>
>>On Sun, 11 May 2008 21:38:01 GMT, Windswept@Home (J) wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Word is that full discs do not need to be erased. In other words, you
>>>can record a TV program over the contents of a full +RW disc.
>>>
>>>Didn't work for me.
>>>
>>>So how *do* your erase a +RW disc? Thanks
>>
>>
>>With the erase command in your burner program. It should be under
>>utilities or tools
>
>
> I think he's asking how to erase them in his DVD recorder attached to his
> TV. Obviously it's easier on the computer.

My DVD recorder has an easy-to-use erase function. It'll erase the
whole disc.

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Re: They Lied About Those DVD+RW Discs

On Sun, 11 May 2008 17:50:06 -0400, gfretwell@aol . com wrote:

:On Sun, 11 May 2008 21:38:01 GMT, Windswept@Home (J) wrote:
:
:>Word is that full discs do not need to be erased. In other words, you
:>can record a TV program over the contents of a full +RW disc.
:>
:>Didn't work for me.
:>
:>So how *do* your erase a +RW disc? Thanks
:
:
:With the erase command in your burner program. It should be under
:utilities or tools
When my burner program asks for a blank disk to write to I put in a
DVD-RW and the program says that the disk already has data and asks me
if I want to erase the data. I click Yes and the write of new data
proceeds. It has always worked flawlessly for me.

Re: They Lied About Those DVD+RW Discs

J wrote:
> Word is that full discs do not need to be erased. In other words, you
> can record a TV program over the contents of a full +RW disc.
>
> Didn't work for me.
>
> So how *do* your erase a +RW disc? Thanks

First, you don't bombard usenet; rather DAGS on something like "erase
dvd-rw." (Don't sweat the sign.) Then find out what app(s) you might
have installed, or need to install, on computer to erase. RTFM is good, too.

You might well be confused with dvd-ram.

Still wondering how subj relates to home repair.

J

Re: They Lied About Those DVD+RW Discs

J wrote:

> Word is that full discs do not need to be erased. In other words, you
> can record a TV program over the contents of a full +RW disc.
>
> Didn't work for me.
>
> So how *do* your erase a +RW disc? Thanks

If you're talking about for a DVD recorder, somewhere there's an erase
function, that'll erase the entire disc, without your having to record
something over it.

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Re: They Lied About Those DVD+RW Discs


"Alric Knebel" <alric@cableone . net > wrote in message
news:J5ydnbJtgobJ7rrVnZ2dnUVZ scAAAAA@giganews . com ...
>J wrote:
>
>> Word is that full discs do not need to be erased. In other words, you
>> can record a TV program over the contents of a full +RW disc.
>>
>> Didn't work for me.
>>
>> So how *do* your erase a +RW disc? Thanks
>
> If you're talking about for a DVD recorder, somewhere there's an erase
> function, that'll erase the entire disc, without your having to record
> something over it.

It's called "initialize". Essentially, the disk needs to be formatted. But
they call it initialize, as sometimes you can choose more than one format
option. Somewhere in the menus for the dvd recorder, there will be an
option to initialize the disk. There SHOULD be an option to finalize the
disk, also. -Dave

Re: They Lied About Those DVD+RW Discs

On Mon, 12 May 2008 08:04:20 -0400, "Dave" <noway@nohow.not> wrote:

>
>"Alric Knebel" <alric@cableone . net > wrote in message
>news:J5ydnbJtgobJ7rrVnZ2dnUVZ_scAAAAA@giganews . com ...
>>J wrote:
>>
>>> Word is that full discs do not need to be erased. In other words, you
>>> can record a TV program over the contents of a full +RW disc.
>>>
>>> Didn't work for me.
>>>
>>> So how *do* your erase a +RW disc? Thanks
>>
>> If you're talking about for a DVD recorder, somewhere there's an erase
>> function, that'll erase the entire disc, without your having to record
>> something over it.
>
>It's called "initialize". Essentially, the disk needs to be formatted. But
>they call it initialize, as sometimes you can choose more than one format
>option. Somewhere in the menus for the dvd recorder, there will be an
>option to initialize the disk. There SHOULD be an option to finalize the
>disk, also. -Dave

I know that on my DVD recorder (Phillips) "erase" is something
different from "format", as it is in computer CD/DVD burning software.
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Re: They Lied About Those DVD+RW Discs

On May 12, 8:04 am, "Dave" <no...@nohow.not> wrote:
> "Alric Knebel" <al...@cableone . net > wrote in message
>
> news:J5ydnbJtgobJ7rrVnZ2dnUVZ scAAAAA@giganews . com ...
>
> >J wrote:
>
> >> Word is that full discs do not need to be erased.  In other words, yo=
u
> >> can record a TV program over the contents of a full +RW disc.
>
> >> Didn't work for me.
>
> >> So how *do* your erase a +RW disc?  Thanks
>
> > If you're talking about for a DVD recorder, somewhere there's an erase
> > function, that'll erase the entire disc, without your having to record
> > something over it.
>
> It's called "initialize".  Essentially, the disk needs to be formatted. =
 But
> they call it initialize, as sometimes you can choose more than one format
> option.  Somewhere in the menus for the dvd recorder, there will be an
> option to initialize the disk.  There SHOULD be an option to finalize th=
e
> disk, also.  -Dave

I don't have a DVD recorder, so I'm jumping in cold here...

What I'm hearing is that you can't erase an hour of a crappy
basketball game and replace it with a CSI re-run, right?

You would have to format the entire DVD and start over?

Re: They Lied About Those DVD+RW Discs


I don't have a DVD recorder, so I'm jumping in cold here...

What I'm hearing is that you can't erase an hour of a crappy
basketball game and replace it with a CSI re-run, right?

You would have to format the entire DVD and start over?


(snip)

Ummmm, if you are talking about a stand-alone DVD recorder box, then the
answer is yes.

On a computer you can burn a DVD "multisession" so that if you had leftover
space you could use that space later.

If they make a DVD recorder that can do multisession, I haven't seen it.
That function would best be DISABLED on stand-alone consumer boxes anyway.
Otherwise, the only player you could use the disk on would have to be one
that is in a personal computer. What good is that?

But this isn't a big deal. DVD +/-RW media can be "burnt" something like a
thousand times, and I think I paid like a buck a piece for my last pack of
10, which I thought was expensive, at the time. :)

I've had some disks that have been recorded every week or two and are about
18 months old now, still going strong.

So if you have to erase the entire disk and start over, who cares?
:) -Dave

Re: They Lied About Those DVD+RW Discs

On Mon, 12 May 2008 18:00:18 -0400, "Dave" <noway@nohow.not> wrote:

>
>I don't have a DVD recorder, so I'm jumping in cold here...
>
>What I'm hearing is that you can't erase an hour of a crappy
>basketball game and replace it with a CSI re-run, right?
>
>You would have to format the entire DVD and start over?
>
>
>(snip)
>
>Ummmm, if you are talking about a stand-alone DVD recorder box, then the
>answer is yes.
>
>On a computer you can burn a DVD "multisession" so that if you had leftover
>space you could use that space later.
>
>If they make a DVD recorder that can do multisession, I haven't seen it.
>That function would best be DISABLED on stand-alone consumer boxes anyway.
>Otherwise, the only player you could use the disk on would have to be one
>that is in a personal computer. What good is that?
>
>But this isn't a big deal. DVD +/-RW media can be "burnt" something like a
>thousand times, and I think I paid like a buck a piece for my last pack of
>10, which I thought was expensive, at the time. :)
>
>I've had some disks that have been recorded every week or two and are about
>18 months old now, still going strong.
>
>So if you have to erase the entire disk and start over, who cares?
>:) -Dave
>
>

Every one I have seen does multisession. You can keep adding stuff
until the disk is full or you "finalize" it. That is a setup option.

Re: They Lied About Those DVD+RW Discs

On May 12, 6:00 pm, "Dave" <no...@nohow.not> wrote:
> I don't have a DVD recorder, so I'm jumping in cold here...
>
> What I'm hearing is that you can't erase an hour of a crappy
> basketball game and replace it with a CSI re-run, right?
>
> You would have to format the entire DVD and start over?
>
> (snip)
>
> Ummmm, if you are talking about a stand-alone DVD recorder box, then the
> answer is yes.
>
> On a computer you can burn a DVD "multisession" so that if you had leftove=
r
> space you could use that space later.
>
> If they make a DVD recorder that can do multisession, I haven't seen it.
> That function would best be DISABLED on stand-alone consumer boxes anyway.=

> Otherwise, the only player you could use the disk on would have to be one
> that is in a personal computer.  What good is that?
>
> But this isn't a big deal.  DVD +/-RW media can be "burnt" something lik=
e a
> thousand times, and I think I paid like a buck a piece for my last pack of=

> 10, which I thought was expensive, at the time.  :)
>
> I've had some disks that have been recorded every week or two and are abou=
t
> 18 months old now, still going strong.
>
> So if you have to erase the entire disk and start over, who cares?
> :)  -Dave

re: So if you have to erase the entire disk and start over, who cares?

I guess where I was going with this is that I might have 1 hour of
programming that I want to save and another hour that I want to delete
on the same DVD. Say I recorded CSI and then Without a Trace on the
same DVD. Later I want to delete Without a Trace and add another
episode of CSI, just to keep things organized.

I'm sensing that this can't be done, right?

(This is all hypothetical - I'm just trying to understand the
technology)

Re: They Lied About Those DVD+RW Discs

On 5/13/2008 6:48 AM DerbyDad03 spake thus:

> re: So if you have to erase the entire disk and start over, who cares?
>
> I guess where I was going with this is that I might have 1 hour of
> programming that I want to save and another hour that I want to delete
> on the same DVD. Say I recorded CSI and then Without a Trace on the
> same DVD. Later I want to delete Without a Trace and add another
> episode of CSI, just to keep things organized.
>
> I'm sensing that this can't be done, right?
>
> (This is all hypothetical - I'm just trying to understand the
> technology)

Each time you record something (like CSI and WaT in your example), you
create a new "session". When recording something new to a disc, you have
two, and only two, choices (so far as I know, unless there's some
*really* fancy software or recorders out there):

1. Overwrite all existing sessions (essentially "erasing" them, although
they may not need to be physically erased).

2. Add a new session to the existing ones.

So no, you can't choose to keep some sessions and delete others.


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Re: They Lied About Those DVD+RW Discs

On Sun, 11 May 2008 21:38:01 +0000, J wrote:

> Word is that full discs do not need to be erased. In other words, you
> can record a TV program over the contents of a full +RW disc.
>
> Didn't work for me.
>
> So how *do* your erase a +RW disc? Thanks

I would read the owner's manual for your device.