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Recommendations for DTV conv. boxes

Reply from: letterman@invalid.com
Date: 11 May, 23:58
Can anyone recommend any of the DTV convertor boxes? I just got my
coupons. Now I have to decide which box I want. I've heard some are
not real good, and others are mediocre. I'd rather spend a few more
bucks and get one of the best. I live in a rural area where there
will not likely ever be cable in my lifetime, and satellite is way too
costly.

I'd prefer one that allows the current channels (until they are gone),
too. I heard that many do not.

Thanks to all

Reply from: ---MIKE---
Date: 12 May, 00:18
I have the Magnevox (Wal-mart). I don't think it passes the analog
signal but since all the stations are broadcasting digital I can't be
sure. The digital signals are extremely good and I am now getting two
channels that I couldn't get before. The only place where satellite is
better is in the program grid. With satellite I can look ahead a week
but I don't have that option with the digital TV. This may be a normal
function with digital and not a fault of the box.


---MIKE---
>>In the White Mountains of New Hampshire
>> (44° 15' N - Elevation 1580')


Reply from: KLS
Date: 12 May, 00:56
On Sun, 11 May 2008 16:58:09 -0500, letterman@invalid.com wrote:

>Can anyone recommend any of the DTV convertor boxes?

I read a review that recommended the Radio Shack one (the other one
reviewed had a label that began with a U, a name I was not familiar
with) because the Radio Shack one had a nice interface that made it
easier to use and apparently brought in the most channels.

Reply from: Roger Shoaf
Date: 12 May, 05:51

<letterman@invalid.com> wrote in message
news:4uqe241seag6ligeqrb80k1bd8k64kfjdh@4ax.com...
> Can anyone recommend any of the DTV convertor boxes? I just got my
> coupons. Now I have to decide which box I want. I've heard some are
> not real good, and others are mediocre. I'd rather spend a few more
> bucks and get one of the best. I live in a rural area where there
> will not likely ever be cable in my lifetime, and satellite is way too
> costly.
>
> I'd prefer one that allows the current channels (until they are gone),
> too. I heard that many do not.
>
> Thanks to all

I just unwrapped mine I got from Circuit City. It is a Zenith (made in
China) and it does not seem to do well on the cheap pair of rabbit ears I
have. This however is not surprising as the rabbit ears did not do too well
on analog either. My TV is the monitor style so I can use the direct audio
and video connectors so I don't have to go through double tuners.

When I did get a signal however it was crystal clear, so I am hopeful that
when I rig up the roof top antenna I will have a good selection.

I can get cable, but refuse to pay for TV that should be free.

I wish they had display units so you could actually see what the differences
are between the units, but Circuit City only had one model and no interest
in hooking up one for a display.

--

Roger Shoaf

About the time I had mastered getting the toothpaste back in the tube, then
they come up with this striped stuff.



Reply from: Jerry
Date: 12 May, 17:35
On May 11, 2:58 pm, letter...@invalid.com wrote:
> Can anyone recommend any of the DTV convertor boxes?  I just got my
> coupons.  Now I have to decide which box I want.  I've heard some are
> not real good, and others are mediocre.  I'd rather spend a few more
> bucks and get one of the best.  I live in a rural area where there
> will not likely ever be cable in my lifetime, and satellite is way too
> costly.  
>
> I'd prefer one that allows the current channels (until they are gone),
> too.  I heard that many do not.
>
> Thanks to all

You'll find a list of coupon-approved converter boxes here:
https://www.ntiadtv.gov/cecb_list.cfm

The ones marked with an asterisk feature analog passthrough.

Not all analog channels are going away in February, depends on your
location. Repeater stations and low-power stations are not required to
stop broadcasting their analog signal in February. We have a cabin
about 20 miles outside Flagstaff AZ. When the digital switchover
happens, there will be about 3 or 4 digital channels available, and 7
or 8 repeater stations still broadcasting an analog signal that carry
the Phoenix stations. So, we'll have a need for analog passthrough
also.

Here's an interesting website that will tell you what stations will be
available, and where to point your antenna for best reception.
http://www.tvfool.com/index.php?option=com_wrapper&Itemid=29
You just plug in your address or zip code, and you get a list of
available channels, sorted in the order of received signal strength at
your location.
Interesting stuff.

Jerry

Reply from: dannydee@nospam.com
Date: 12 May, 19:05
On Mon, 12 May 2008 08:35:17 -0700 (PDT), Jerry
<jerry_maple@hotmail.com> wrote:

>On May 11, 2:58 pm, letter...@invalid.com wrote:
>> Can anyone recommend any of the DTV convertor boxes?  I just got my
>> coupons.  Now I have to decide which box I want.  I've heard some are
>> not real good, and others are mediocre.  I'd rather spend a few more
>> bucks and get one of the best.  I live in a rural area where there
>> will not likely ever be cable in my lifetime, and satellite is way too
>> costly.  
>>
>> I'd prefer one that allows the current channels (until they are gone),
>> too.  I heard that many do not.
>>
>> Thanks to all
>
>You'll find a list of coupon-approved converter boxes here:
>https://www.ntiadtv.gov/cecb_list.cfm
>
>The ones marked with an asterisk feature analog passthrough.
>
>Not all analog channels are going away in February, depends on your
>location. Repeater stations and low-power stations are not required to
>stop broadcasting their analog signal in February. We have a cabin
>about 20 miles outside Flagstaff AZ. When the digital switchover
>happens, there will be about 3 or 4 digital channels available, and 7
>or 8 repeater stations still broadcasting an analog signal that carry
>the Phoenix stations. So, we'll have a need for analog passthrough
>also.
>
>Here's an interesting website that will tell you what stations will be
>available, and where to point your antenna for best reception.
>http://www.tvfool.com/index.php?option=com_wrapper&Itemid)
>You just plug in your address or zip code, and you get a list of
>available channels, sorted in the order of received signal strength at
>your location.
>Interesting stuff.
>
>Jerry

The thing I dont understand about this is that they say we can use our
existing rooftop antennas, which I guess works since others are doing
it. But HOW can that work when these digital channels are using a
different frequency band? I know that the bars on an antenna are
designed for different channels which is determined by their length,
and the longest correspond to the lowest numbered channels (analog),
and the shortest are the high UHF channels. So, how can they work for
the new frequencies of DTV? Wouldn't there be a more optimal antenna
design? I dont know the frequency band for the new DTV, so I am not
sure how this works. After I get my converter, I will connect to my
present rooftop antenna, but I'd like to get the most channels I can
get, so if a new antenna is in order, I'll eventually buy one.

Dan

Reply from: Mark Lloyd
Date: 12 May, 19:30
On Mon, 12 May 2008 12:05:13 -0500, dannydee@nospam.com wrote:

>On Mon, 12 May 2008 08:35:17 -0700 (PDT), Jerry
><jerry_maple@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>>On May 11, 2:58 pm, letter...@invalid.com wrote:
>>> Can anyone recommend any of the DTV convertor boxes?  I just got my
>>> coupons.  Now I have to decide which box I want.  I've heard some are
>>> not real good, and others are mediocre.  I'd rather spend a few more
>>> bucks and get one of the best.  I live in a rural area where there
>>> will not likely ever be cable in my lifetime, and satellite is way too
>>> costly.  
>>>
>>> I'd prefer one that allows the current channels (until they are gone),
>>> too.  I heard that many do not.
>>>
>>> Thanks to all
>>
>>You'll find a list of coupon-approved converter boxes here:
>>https://www.ntiadtv.gov/cecb_list.cfm
>>
>>The ones marked with an asterisk feature analog passthrough.
>>
>>Not all analog channels are going away in February, depends on your
>>location. Repeater stations and low-power stations are not required to
>>stop broadcasting their analog signal in February. We have a cabin
>>about 20 miles outside Flagstaff AZ. When the digital switchover
>>happens, there will be about 3 or 4 digital channels available, and 7
>>or 8 repeater stations still broadcasting an analog signal that carry
>>the Phoenix stations. So, we'll have a need for analog passthrough
>>also.
>>
>>Here's an interesting website that will tell you what stations will be
>>available, and where to point your antenna for best reception.
>>http://www.tvfool.com/index.php?option=com_wrapper&Itemid)
>>You just plug in your address or zip code, and you get a list of
>>available channels, sorted in the order of received signal strength at
>>your location.
>>Interesting stuff.
>>
>>Jerry
>
>The thing I dont understand about this is that they say we can use our
>existing rooftop antennas, which I guess works since others are doing
>it. But HOW can that work when these digital channels are using a
>different frequency band?

In most (possibly all) cases, they aren't on a different band.

> I know that the bars on an antenna are
>designed for different channels which is determined by their length,
>and the longest correspond to the lowest numbered channels (analog),
>and the shortest are the high UHF channels. So, how can they work for
>the new frequencies of DTV?

AFAIK, there are no new frequencies in use. In this area, channels use
the following (analog -> digital):

7(ABC) -> 10
19(CBS) -> 18
51(Fox) -> 31
54(CW) -> 38 (eff. next year)
56(NBC) -> 22

In no case is a different frequency band used. One is VHF-Hi, all
others UHF.

> Wouldn't there be a more optimal antenna
>design? I dont know the frequency band for the new DTV, so I am not
>sure how this works.

DTV uses exactly the same frequency bands as analog, except for the
exclusion of 700-800MHz (channels 52-69). Fewer than 1/3 of the
channels are excluded.

> After I get my converter, I will connect to my
>present rooftop antenna, but I'd like to get the most channels I can
>get, so if a new antenna is in order, I'll eventually buy one.
>

Most DTV channels use UHF (now limited to 14-51). I used to think it
was going to be all on UHF, but there is one VHF here (channel 10).

>Dan
--
Mark Lloyd
http://notstupid.laughingsquid.com

"God was invented by man for a reason, that
reason is no longer applicable."




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