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Remodel and sign problem

Reply from: Rose
Date: 16 May 2008, 02:11
Remodel and sign problem

First, free advertising is the norm these days. Most contractors leave
the sign on your property as long as they can. Why not call the guy
and ask how long he would like to leave that thing? And, tongue in
cheek, maybe he could sue your for time-loss, cost of sign you threw
away, and hmmm what else? Anyway I'm sure the post about small claims
was a joke.[i hope]
And now, our remodel is going not so smoothly at this time due to an
enormous leak that developed under the house during some pipe
replacement, darn. More about that on my blog...with some pics of the
water damage and susequent removal of same from under the sink.
Rose
hamilsense.blogspot . com

Reply from: Dioclese
Date: 16 May 2008, 06:14
Re: Remodel and sign problem

"Rose" <rosaliehmltn@yahoo . com > wrote in message
news:1f985575-71d3-4aef-b12f-2d2c12881a36@z24g2000prf.googlegroups . com ...
> First, free advertising is the norm these days. Most contractors leave
> the sign on your property as long as they can. Why not call the guy
> and ask how long he would like to leave that thing? And, tongue in
> cheek, maybe he could sue your for time-loss, cost of sign you threw
> away, and hmmm what else? Anyway I'm sure the post about small claims
> was a joke.[i hope]
> And now, our remodel is going not so smoothly at this time due to an
> enormous leak that developed under the house during some pipe
> replacement, darn. More about that on my blog...with some pics of the
> water damage and susequent removal of same from under the sink.
> Rose
> hamilsense.blogspot . com

Yes, it was a joke. The old, old emoticon was there at the end of the
sentences.
Used to be this: :)
Threw in a wink later: ;) (that's what I used)
Added a nose after that: ;-)
At least that's the way I remember it.

Builder of my house tried the free advertising sign by the street. I,
without hesitation, removed the sign and burned it with their wooden trash.
Nothing was said as a result, nor a new sign erected.
--
Dave

Parkinson's disease, not easy to define.
Much less cure.



Reply from: Glenn
Date: 16 May 2008, 15:37
Re: Remodel and sign problem


"Dioclese" <NONE> wrote in message
news:IuqdnWMpUMWil7DVnZ2dnUVZ_oHinZ2d@earthlink . com ...
>>
> Yes, it was a joke. The old, old emoticon was there
> at the end of the sentences.
> Used to be this: :)
> Threw in a wink later: ;) (that's what I used)
> Added a nose after that: ;-)
> At least that's the way I remember it.
>
> Builder of my house tried the free advertising sign
> by the street. I, without hesitation, removed the
> sign and burned it with their wooden trash. Nothing
> was said as a result, nor a new sign erected.
> --
> Dave


I never used a sign but if you couldn't just ask him to
remove the thing so you don't have to mow around it
would have been better than being a a**hole about it.
I was extremely lucky, I never got but one of your kind
in my whole career. You just revealed more about
yourself than I would think you would want to.


Reply from: RicodJour
Date: 16 May 2008, 19:45
Re: Remodel and sign problem

On May 16, 12:14 am, "Dioclese" <NONE> wrote:
> "Rose" <rosaliehm...@yahoo . com > wrote in message
>
> news:1f985575-71d3-4aef-b12f-2d2c12881a36@z24g2000prf.googlegroups . com ...
>
> > First, free advertising is the norm these days. Most contractors leave
> > the sign on your property as long as they can. Why not call the guy
> > and ask how long he would like to leave that thing? And, tongue in
> > cheek, maybe he could sue your for time-loss, cost of sign you threw
> > away, and hmmm what else? Anyway I'm sure the post about small claims
> > was a joke.[i hope]
> > And now, our remodel is going not so smoothly at this time due to an
> > enormous leak that developed under the house during some pipe
> > replacement, darn. More about that on my blog...with some pics of the
> > water damage and susequent removal of same from under the sink.
> > Rose
> > hamilsense.blogspot . com
>
> Yes, it was a joke. The old, old emoticon was there at the end of the
> sentences.
> Used to be this: :)
> Threw in a wink later: ;) (that's what I used)
> Added a nose after that: ;-)
> At least that's the way I remember it.
>
> Builder of my house tried the free advertising sign by the street. I,
> without hesitation, removed the sign and burned it with their wooden trash.
> Nothing was said as a result, nor a new sign erected.

Not much room for goodwill in your world, eh? If I trust a guy enough
to work for me, I don't mind him using me as a reference and sticking
up a reasonably sized sign while he's working. Funnily enough, I also
don't mind buying the guys lunch and don't expect them to reach for
their wallets. Guess there is such a thing as a free lunch after all.

Polite behavior is the grease that makes the world's wheels turn
smoothly. I cannot think of a worse idea than to be antagonistic to
people working on your house.

R

Reply from: Matt Whiting
Date: 16 May 2008, 23:38
Re: Remodel and sign problem

RicodJour wrote:

> Polite behavior is the grease that makes the world's wheels turn
> smoothly. I cannot think of a worse idea than to be antagonistic to
> people working on your house.

How about being antagonistic to your surgeon? :-)

Matt

Reply from: RicodJour
Date: 17 May 2008, 00:16
Re: Remodel and sign problem

On May 16, 5:38 pm, Matt Whiting <whit...@epix . net > wrote:
> RicodJour wrote:
> > Polite behavior is the grease that makes the world's wheels turn
> > smoothly. I cannot think of a worse idea than to be antagonistic to
> > people working on your house.
>
> How about being antagonistic to your surgeon? :-)

Or even worse, your anesthesiologist!

R

Reply from: Dioclese
Date: 17 May 2008, 14:44
Re: Remodel and sign problem

"RicodJour" <ricodjour@worldemail . com > wrote in message
news:196238db-27b1-4552-aa16-ecea8cd9f2ee@m44g2000hsc.googlegroups . com ...
> On May 16, 12:14 am, "Dioclese" <NONE> wrote:
>> "Rose" <rosaliehm...@yahoo . com > wrote in message
>>
>> news:1f985575-71d3-4aef-b12f-2d2c12881a36@z24g2000prf.googlegroups . com ...
>>
>> > First, free advertising is the norm these days. Most contractors leave
>> > the sign on your property as long as they can. Why not call the guy
>> > and ask how long he would like to leave that thing? And, tongue in
>> > cheek, maybe he could sue your for time-loss, cost of sign you threw
>> > away, and hmmm what else? Anyway I'm sure the post about small claims
>> > was a joke.[i hope]
>> > And now, our remodel is going not so smoothly at this time due to an
>> > enormous leak that developed under the house during some pipe
>> > replacement, darn. More about that on my blog...with some pics of the
>> > water damage and susequent removal of same from under the sink.
>> > Rose
>> > hamilsense.blogspot . com
>>
>> Yes, it was a joke. The old, old emoticon was there at the end of the
>> sentences.
>> Used to be this: :)
>> Threw in a wink later: ;) (that's what I used)
>> Added a nose after that: ;-)
>> At least that's the way I remember it.
>>
>> Builder of my house tried the free advertising sign by the street. I,
>> without hesitation, removed the sign and burned it with their wooden
>> trash.
>> Nothing was said as a result, nor a new sign erected.
>
> Not much room for goodwill in your world, eh? If I trust a guy enough
> to work for me, I don't mind him using me as a reference and sticking
> up a reasonably sized sign while he's working. Funnily enough, I also
> don't mind buying the guys lunch and don't expect them to reach for
> their wallets. Guess there is such a thing as a free lunch after all.
>
> Polite behavior is the grease that makes the world's wheels turn
> smoothly. I cannot think of a worse idea than to be antagonistic to
> people working on your house.
>
> R

Well, apparently assumption is your basis for your reply. From the git-go,
the contractor at final signing failed to go over the actual plans with me
and provide a copy of those plans. This was noted as part of the final
sign-offs before work was to begin. I never got a copy. I did make a copy
from the framers. During the building, I did note many shortcuts outside of
the plans, which I made them correct. After a few weeks of this, I removed
their sign and burned it.

You and your cohorts may chastize me for being discourteous. As well, as
the coming reply about my failures regarding researching potential
contractors. In the latter case, you are wrong again. But, won't go into
the matter. Assume on...
--
Dave

Parkinson's disease, not easy to define.
Much less cure.



Reply from: RicodJour
Date: 17 May 2008, 15:37
Re: Remodel and sign problem

On May 17, 8:44 am, "Dioclese" <NONE> wrote:
>
> Well, apparently assumption is your basis for your reply. From the git-go,
> the contractor at final signing failed to go over the actual plans with me
> and provide a copy of those plans. This was noted as part of the final
> sign-offs before work was to begin. I never got a copy.

You should have stopped it right there. Allowing someone to proceed
with the work before you're in full agreement on what's to be done is
shooting yourself in the foot with a slow bullet. Letting someone
slide on a critical issue in the early going sets up a bad tone for
communication for the rest of the project. If you can't agree on
things when it's just paper, you'll never agree when it's set in stone/
concrete/wood/shingles.

Your situation has nothing at all to do with the OP's situation...the
OP from the original thread (Rose apparently decided to start this new
thread so their blog advertisement would show up better). The OP was
happy with the contractor and just objected to the advertising after
the fact. You were frustrated with the contractor and burned the sign
in retaliation. You also wrote in the earlier post that you removed
and burned the sign without hesitation, then in your most recent post
you mentioned that you removed the sign only after a few weeks of
contractor friction.

R

Reply from: Rose
Date: 20 May 2008, 16:05
Re: Remodel and sign problem

On May 17, 6:37 am, RicodJour <ricodj...@worldemail . com > wrote:
> On May 17, 8:44 am, "Dioclese" <NONE> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Well, apparently assumption is your basis for your reply.  From the gi=
t-go,
> > the contractor at final signing failed to go over the actual plans with =
me
> > and provide a copy of those plans.  This was noted as part of the fina=
l
> > sign-offs before work was to begin.  I never got a copy.
>
> You should have stopped it right there.  Allowing someone to proceed
> with the work before you're in full agreement on what's to be done is
> shooting yourself in the foot with a slow bullet.  Letting someone
> slide on a critical issue in the early going sets up a bad tone for
> communication for the rest of the project.  If you can't agree on
> things when it's just paper, you'll never agree when it's set in stone/
> concrete/wood/shingles.
>
> Your situation has nothing at all to do with the OP's situation...the
> OP from the original thread (Rose apparently decided to start this new
> thread so their blog advertisement would show up better).  The OP was
> happy with the contractor and just objected to the advertising after
> the fact.  You were frustrated with the contractor and burned the sign
> in retaliation.  You also wrote in the earlier post that you removed
> and burned the sign without hesitation, then in your most recent post
> you mentioned that you removed the sign only after a few weeks of
> contractor friction.
>
> R

I certainly didn't start a new thread to advertise my adverts on my
blog, for goodness sakes. I have posted here a few times concerning
our remodelling efforts and have always signed the posts with my blog
address. Thought you might want to see the pics and read more on the
job just for fun. Most blogs have adverts on them, additional revenue
never hurt anybody. As for smilies and winks and all that, I never
remember what to use to create them so do not use them and am never
sure what they mean anyway! The sign thing is silly, really. When we
were building we always had our sign out front, and our subs, too. We
had an area where they could put their sign up and leave it,
again,additional free revenue. And when we contracted a job, we put up
a sign and left it for about a week after the job was done, generated
more work for us. How are we to get work if we do not advertise?
Usually homeowners allow the sign, without causing so much strife.We
never had anyone complain. Certainly made for some interesting posts
on here though.
Happy Building!
Rose
* hamilsense.blogspot . com




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