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Re: Starbucks Closings in Vegas
> I am an environmentalist... but buying oil from foreign countries when we
> have untapped reserves here is just plain stupid....
Why is it stupid? In fact, it makes a lot of sense to burn through
everybody else's oil first. Then when the supply cruch comes, we'll
still have our oil.
> I am an environmentalist... but buying oil from foreign countries when we
> have untapped reserves here is just plain stupid....
Why is it stupid? In fact, it makes a lot of sense to burn through
everybody else's oil first. Then when the supply cruch comes, we'll
still have our oil.
Re: Starbucks Closings in Vegas
On Jul 18, 10:23 am, salmone...@aol,com wrote:
> > I am an environmentalist... but buying oil from foreign countries when we
> > have untapped reserves here is just plain stupid....
>
> Why is it stupid? In fact, it makes a lot of sense to burn through
> everybody else's oil first. Then when the supply cruch comes, we'll
> still have our oil.
I'd hold off on doing anything rash also 'til at least 6 mos after
Dubya leaves office. This whole oil runup is all more BUSHit just like
the CA electricity scam run by Dubya's Enron buddies out of Houston
was! Just wait and see....
On Jul 18, 10:23 am, salmone...@aol,com wrote:
> > I am an environmentalist... but buying oil from foreign countries when we
> > have untapped reserves here is just plain stupid....
>
> Why is it stupid? In fact, it makes a lot of sense to burn through
> everybody else's oil first. Then when the supply cruch comes, we'll
> still have our oil.
I'd hold off on doing anything rash also 'til at least 6 mos after
Dubya leaves office. This whole oil runup is all more BUSHit just like
the CA electricity scam run by Dubya's Enron buddies out of Houston
was! Just wait and see....
Re: Starbucks Closings in Vegas
On Jul 18 2008 12:23 PM, salmoneous wrote:
> > I am an environmentalist... but buying oil from foreign countries when we
> > have untapped reserves here is just plain stupid....
>
> Why is it stupid? In fact, it makes a lot of sense to burn through
> everybody else's oil first. Then when the supply cruch comes, we'll
> still have our oil.
That is exactly how a bay stater thinks.
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On Jul 18 2008 12:23 PM, salmoneous wrote:
> > I am an environmentalist... but buying oil from foreign countries when we
> > have untapped reserves here is just plain stupid....
>
> Why is it stupid? In fact, it makes a lot of sense to burn through
> everybody else's oil first. Then when the supply cruch comes, we'll
> still have our oil.
That is exactly how a bay stater thinks.
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Re: Starbucks Closings in Vegas
<salmoneous@aol,com > wrote in message
news:26df5eb5-1ccc-4ba9-ae4f-1e11d32d788a@r35g2000prm.googlegroups,com ...
>> I am an environmentalist... but buying oil from foreign countries when we
>> have untapped reserves here is just plain stupid....
>
> Why is it stupid? In fact, it makes a lot of sense to burn through
> everybody else's oil first. Then when the supply cruch comes, we'll
> still have our oil.
LOL. But the balance of trade sucks. Right now we are borrowing money from
China and Japan to finance a war in the Middle East... and on top of that,
we are dumping more money into the area by buying our oil there instead of
using the stuff we already have. Our national deficit has skyrocketed and
the money is flowing our of our country like someone severed our carotid
artery.
Somewhere between the "drill nowhere environmentalists" and "drill
everywhere industrialists" there is probably a compromise that we can all
live with.
George L
<salmoneous@aol,com > wrote in message
news:26df5eb5-1ccc-4ba9-ae4f-1e11d32d788a@r35g2000prm.googlegroups,com ...
>> I am an environmentalist... but buying oil from foreign countries when we
>> have untapped reserves here is just plain stupid....
>
> Why is it stupid? In fact, it makes a lot of sense to burn through
> everybody else's oil first. Then when the supply cruch comes, we'll
> still have our oil.
LOL. But the balance of trade sucks. Right now we are borrowing money from
China and Japan to finance a war in the Middle East... and on top of that,
we are dumping more money into the area by buying our oil there instead of
using the stuff we already have. Our national deficit has skyrocketed and
the money is flowing our of our country like someone severed our carotid
artery.
Somewhere between the "drill nowhere environmentalists" and "drill
everywhere industrialists" there is probably a compromise that we can all
live with.
George L
Re: Starbucks Closings in Vegas
> Right now we are borrowing money from
> China and Japan to finance a war in the Middle East...
And if we were using up more of the US's oil now, we'd be borring
money from China and Japan to finance a war in the Middle East. There
may be some good reasons for using up more of our oil now. But most of
the reason's I see have little or nothing to do with using up more of
our oil. That alone makes me think it's probably a bad idea.
> we are dumping more money into the area by buying our oil there instead of
> using the stuff we already have.
Actually, we tend to get most of our oil from places outside the
Middle East. Drilling more oil in the US would have little impact on
the middle east.
> Our national deficit has skyrocketed and
> the money is flowing our of our country like someone severed our carotid
> artery.
The reasons for our deficit are that we spend less money than we tax.
> Somewhere between the "drill nowhere environmentalists" and "drill
> everywhere industrialists" there is probably a compromise that we can all
> live with.
Right now, we are in a compromise where we drill lots of planes, but
not everywhere. Maybe we are in that place.
> Right now we are borrowing money from
> China and Japan to finance a war in the Middle East...
And if we were using up more of the US's oil now, we'd be borring
money from China and Japan to finance a war in the Middle East. There
may be some good reasons for using up more of our oil now. But most of
the reason's I see have little or nothing to do with using up more of
our oil. That alone makes me think it's probably a bad idea.
> we are dumping more money into the area by buying our oil there instead of
> using the stuff we already have.
Actually, we tend to get most of our oil from places outside the
Middle East. Drilling more oil in the US would have little impact on
the middle east.
> Our national deficit has skyrocketed and
> the money is flowing our of our country like someone severed our carotid
> artery.
The reasons for our deficit are that we spend less money than we tax.
> Somewhere between the "drill nowhere environmentalists" and "drill
> everywhere industrialists" there is probably a compromise that we can all
> live with.
Right now, we are in a compromise where we drill lots of planes, but
not everywhere. Maybe we are in that place.
Re: Starbucks Closings in Vegas
In article
<d6b963bb-218b-41c9-b3d2-59d75852835a@79g2000hsk.googlegroups,com >,
salmoneous@aol,com wrote:
> Actually, we tend to get most of our oil from places outside the
> Middle East. Drilling more oil in the US would have little impact on
> the middle east.
Yeah but, oil is fungible and the prices paid to the Middle East (or
eastern Texas for that matter) are dependent on total world demand and
supply.. To the extent that we find more oil drives down the price of
oil by adding to supply, then it would impact on the Middle East income
(as well as eastern Texas) income.
How much this would add to supply and thus limit increases is the
open question.
In article
<d6b963bb-218b-41c9-b3d2-59d75852835a@79g2000hsk.googlegroups,com >,
salmoneous@aol,com wrote:
> Actually, we tend to get most of our oil from places outside the
> Middle East. Drilling more oil in the US would have little impact on
> the middle east.
Yeah but, oil is fungible and the prices paid to the Middle East (or
eastern Texas for that matter) are dependent on total world demand and
supply.. To the extent that we find more oil drives down the price of
oil by adding to supply, then it would impact on the Middle East income
(as well as eastern Texas) income.
How much this would add to supply and thus limit increases is the
open question.
Re: Starbucks Closings in Vegas
Kurt Ullman wrote:
> How much this would add to supply and thus limit increases is the
> open question.
timely and interesting article....
http :// news.yahoo,com /s/nm/20080718/lf nm life/gasoline alaska dc
--tr
Kurt Ullman wrote:
> How much this would add to supply and thus limit increases is the
> open question.
timely and interesting article....
http :// news.yahoo,com /s/nm/20080718/lf nm life/gasoline alaska dc
--tr
Re: Starbucks Closings in Vegas
<salmoneous@aol,com > wrote
>Actually, we tend to get most of our oil from places outside the
>Middle East. Drilling more oil in the US would have little impact on
>the middle east.
http :// perotcharts,com /2008/07/united-states-oil-imports-by-country-march-2008/
Saudi Arabia is the #2 foreign supplier of oil to the US. We get most of
our oil from Canada and Mexico, but the amount of oil we get from OPEC
(including Saudi Arabia and Venezuela) is significant.
As far as impact on the Middle East if we stop buying... who cares if it is
good or bad for them? It is good for US!
I don't give a rat's ass for the Middle East. We should let those people
get back to the business of killing each other without our help. They've
been doing it for thousands of years before we got involved and they'll
still be doing it after we leave. I am more concerned about the impact on
our economy by not having to spend our money for something we already
have.... not only in the Middle East but everywhere.
http :// perotcharts,com /category/energy-charts/page/5/ We are the top net
importer of oil in the world. This is not something that is good for us.
Our domestic oil production is decreasing while our importing oil increases
http :// perotcharts,com /category/energy-charts/page/8/ This is not
something that is good for us.
George L
<salmoneous@aol,com > wrote
>Actually, we tend to get most of our oil from places outside the
>Middle East. Drilling more oil in the US would have little impact on
>the middle east.
http :// perotcharts,com /2008/07/united-states-oil-imports-by-country-march-2008/
Saudi Arabia is the #2 foreign supplier of oil to the US. We get most of
our oil from Canada and Mexico, but the amount of oil we get from OPEC
(including Saudi Arabia and Venezuela) is significant.
As far as impact on the Middle East if we stop buying... who cares if it is
good or bad for them? It is good for US!
I don't give a rat's ass for the Middle East. We should let those people
get back to the business of killing each other without our help. They've
been doing it for thousands of years before we got involved and they'll
still be doing it after we leave. I am more concerned about the impact on
our economy by not having to spend our money for something we already
have.... not only in the Middle East but everywhere.
http :// perotcharts,com /category/energy-charts/page/5/ We are the top net
importer of oil in the world. This is not something that is good for us.
Our domestic oil production is decreasing while our importing oil increases
http :// perotcharts,com /category/energy-charts/page/8/ This is not
something that is good for us.
George L
Re: Starbucks Closings in Vegas
> >Actually, we tend to get most of our oil from places outside the
> >Middle East. Drilling more oil in the US would have little impact on
> >the middle east.
>
> http :// perotcharts,com /2008/07/united-states-oil-imports-by-country-m...
> Saudi Arabia is the #2 foreign supplier of oil to the US. We get most of
> our oil from Canada and Mexico, but the amount of oil we get from OPEC
> (including Saudi Arabia and Venezuela) is significant.
Depending upon how you count, we get about 8 to 9 % of our oil from
the Middle East. It's pretty safe to say "we get most of our oil from
places outside the Middle East".
> I am more concerned about the impact on
> our economy by not having to spend our money for something we already
> have.... not only in the Middle East but everywhere.
"We" won't have any oil. Whether it comes from Iraq or Texes, we still
pay Exxon $130-ish a barrel for it. Using up more of the US's oil now
does help the economy in two ways. It *slightly* increases the overall
world supply of oil, driving down prices. And some funds to do to the
states for oil leases. It helps a little, but it's not like we get
free oil or anything.
But keep in mind the question isn't whether or not to ever pump that
oil, but whether we should pump it now (now being 5-10 years from now)
or later. If using up more of the US's oil is going to help the
economy, how much more is it going to help the economy 50 years from
now??
> http :// perotcharts,com /category/energy-charts/page/5/ We are the top net
> importer of oil in the world. This is not something that is good for us.
Drill all the oil you want and we are *still* the world's not net
importer of oil. If we have a problem, we need to pursue solutions to
those problems. Drilling isn't a solution.
> >Actually, we tend to get most of our oil from places outside the
> >Middle East. Drilling more oil in the US would have little impact on
> >the middle east.
>
> http :// perotcharts,com /2008/07/united-states-oil-imports-by-country-m...
> Saudi Arabia is the #2 foreign supplier of oil to the US. We get most of
> our oil from Canada and Mexico, but the amount of oil we get from OPEC
> (including Saudi Arabia and Venezuela) is significant.
Depending upon how you count, we get about 8 to 9 % of our oil from
the Middle East. It's pretty safe to say "we get most of our oil from
places outside the Middle East".
> I am more concerned about the impact on
> our economy by not having to spend our money for something we already
> have.... not only in the Middle East but everywhere.
"We" won't have any oil. Whether it comes from Iraq or Texes, we still
pay Exxon $130-ish a barrel for it. Using up more of the US's oil now
does help the economy in two ways. It *slightly* increases the overall
world supply of oil, driving down prices. And some funds to do to the
states for oil leases. It helps a little, but it's not like we get
free oil or anything.
But keep in mind the question isn't whether or not to ever pump that
oil, but whether we should pump it now (now being 5-10 years from now)
or later. If using up more of the US's oil is going to help the
economy, how much more is it going to help the economy 50 years from
now??
> http :// perotcharts,com /category/energy-charts/page/5/ We are the top net
> importer of oil in the world. This is not something that is good for us.
Drill all the oil you want and we are *still* the world's not net
importer of oil. If we have a problem, we need to pursue solutions to
those problems. Drilling isn't a solution.
Re: Starbucks Closings in Vegas
<salmoneous@aol,com > wrote
>Depending upon how you count, we get about 8 to 9 % of our oil from
the Middle East. It's pretty safe to say "we get most of our oil from
places outside the Middle East".
That's kind of why I said "We get most of our oil from Canada and Mexico."
>Drill all the oil you want and we are *still* the world's not net
importer of oil. If we have a problem, we need to pursue solutions to
those problems. Drilling isn't a solution.
And we come full circle, back to where I complained that we were not using
nuclear power.... and I'll be glad to add solar and wind and thermal and
tides to the mix, too.
Gettting away from oil/coal is the answer but that isn't going to happen
overnight and in the meantime, we need to do what we can to use what we have
to our best advantage.
I know I am in a funny position... an environmentalsit who is pragmatic
enough to see the need to produce more oil (at least in the short run).
Life isn't always black and white and sometimes the answer lies in the gray
areas.
George L
<salmoneous@aol,com > wrote
>Depending upon how you count, we get about 8 to 9 % of our oil from
the Middle East. It's pretty safe to say "we get most of our oil from
places outside the Middle East".
That's kind of why I said "We get most of our oil from Canada and Mexico."
>Drill all the oil you want and we are *still* the world's not net
importer of oil. If we have a problem, we need to pursue solutions to
those problems. Drilling isn't a solution.
And we come full circle, back to where I complained that we were not using
nuclear power.... and I'll be glad to add solar and wind and thermal and
tides to the mix, too.
Gettting away from oil/coal is the answer but that isn't going to happen
overnight and in the meantime, we need to do what we can to use what we have
to our best advantage.
I know I am in a funny position... an environmentalsit who is pragmatic
enough to see the need to produce more oil (at least in the short run).
Life isn't always black and white and sometimes the answer lies in the gray
areas.
George L
Re: Starbucks Closings in Vegas
On Jul 18 2008 10:15 AM, George Leppla wrote:
> "Tex" <twizzard@hotmail,com > wrote in message
> news:0n4184tls17onfslvcj208uj6l5dm7j54t@4ax,com ...
> > On Fri, 18 Jul 2008 06:47:01 -0500, "George Leppla"
> > <george@cruisemaster,com > wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>"Walt" <none@none.void> wrote in message
> >>news:180720080148092888%none@none.void...
> >>> Sixteen Starbucks stores in Vegas will be among the 600 announced
> >>> closings. No casino outlets are slated for closing.
> >>>
> >>> http :// www .lvrj,com /breaking news/25598959.html
> >>>
> >>> According to the Starbucks store locator, the Vegas area will be left
> >>> with fewer than 170 Starbucks locations.
> >>
> >>People complain about $4 a gallon gas. They should be complaining about a
> >>$4 cup of coffee.
> >>
> >>I like coffee... but I never bought into the Starbucks mystique. It's
> >>just
> >>coffee with various kinds of crap added.
> >>
> >>McDonald's coffee suits me fine.
> >>
> >>George L
> >
> > I don't have a reason to complain about $4 coffee because I can get it
> > elsewhere or make it at home for cheap...but gas doesn't seem to work
> > that way.
>
> Oh... don't get me wrong... I think we are getting screwed at the pump. I
> laughed this morning when some "talking head" on TV said that the lower oil
> prices would take 4 to 6 weeks to make a difference at the pump. Of course,
> when eh cost of a barrel of oil goes up, the price at the pump goes up
> overnight.
>
> I don't like Newt Gingrich but I agree with much of what he says in this
> video:
>
> http :// www .youtube,com /watch?v=UOpcPfAarjY
>
> I am an environmentalist... but buying oil from foreign countries when we
> have untapped reserves here is just plain stupid.... and not using nuclear
> power to generate electricity is criminal. FRANCE generates 70% of their
> electricity from nuclear power while we still burn coal as if it were the
> 1800's. Shame on us.
>
> Let's use our own oil (safely)... and lessen our dependence on oil and coal
> by going nuclear.
>
> George L
George..your absolutely correct about Nuclear power.
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On Jul 18 2008 10:15 AM, George Leppla wrote:
> "Tex" <twizzard@hotmail,com > wrote in message
> news:0n4184tls17onfslvcj208uj6l5dm7j54t@4ax,com ...
> > On Fri, 18 Jul 2008 06:47:01 -0500, "George Leppla"
> > <george@cruisemaster,com > wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>"Walt" <none@none.void> wrote in message
> >>news:180720080148092888%none@none.void...
> >>> Sixteen Starbucks stores in Vegas will be among the 600 announced
> >>> closings. No casino outlets are slated for closing.
> >>>
> >>> http :// www .lvrj,com /breaking news/25598959.html
> >>>
> >>> According to the Starbucks store locator, the Vegas area will be left
> >>> with fewer than 170 Starbucks locations.
> >>
> >>People complain about $4 a gallon gas. They should be complaining about a
> >>$4 cup of coffee.
> >>
> >>I like coffee... but I never bought into the Starbucks mystique. It's
> >>just
> >>coffee with various kinds of crap added.
> >>
> >>McDonald's coffee suits me fine.
> >>
> >>George L
> >
> > I don't have a reason to complain about $4 coffee because I can get it
> > elsewhere or make it at home for cheap...but gas doesn't seem to work
> > that way.
>
> Oh... don't get me wrong... I think we are getting screwed at the pump. I
> laughed this morning when some "talking head" on TV said that the lower oil
> prices would take 4 to 6 weeks to make a difference at the pump. Of course,
> when eh cost of a barrel of oil goes up, the price at the pump goes up
> overnight.
>
> I don't like Newt Gingrich but I agree with much of what he says in this
> video:
>
> http :// www .youtube,com /watch?v=UOpcPfAarjY
>
> I am an environmentalist... but buying oil from foreign countries when we
> have untapped reserves here is just plain stupid.... and not using nuclear
> power to generate electricity is criminal. FRANCE generates 70% of their
> electricity from nuclear power while we still burn coal as if it were the
> 1800's. Shame on us.
>
> Let's use our own oil (safely)... and lessen our dependence on oil and coal
> by going nuclear.
>
> George L
George..your absolutely correct about Nuclear power.
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Re: Starbucks Closings in Vegas
That's supposed to be "nucular" power, JP.
FYP
Tom
On Jul 18 2008 2:14 PM, Observant Lurker wrote:
> On Jul 18 2008 10:15 AM, George Leppla wrote:
>
> > "Tex" <twizzard@hotmail,com > wrote in message
> > news:0n4184tls17onfslvcj208uj6l5dm7j54t@4ax,com ...
> > > On Fri, 18 Jul 2008 06:47:01 -0500, "George Leppla"
> > > <george@cruisemaster,com > wrote:
> > >
> > >>
> > >>"Walt" <none@none.void> wrote in message
> > >>news:180720080148092888%none@none.void...
> > >>> Sixteen Starbucks stores in Vegas will be among the 600 announced
> > >>> closings. No casino outlets are slated for closing.
> > >>>
> > >>> http :// www .lvrj,com /breaking news/25598959.html
> > >>>
> > >>> According to the Starbucks store locator, the Vegas area will be left
> > >>> with fewer than 170 Starbucks locations.
> > >>
> > >>People complain about $4 a gallon gas. They should be complaining about
a
> > >>$4 cup of coffee.
> > >>
> > >>I like coffee... but I never bought into the Starbucks mystique. It's
> > >>just
> > >>coffee with various kinds of crap added.
> > >>
> > >>McDonald's coffee suits me fine.
> > >>
> > >>George L
> > >
> > > I don't have a reason to complain about $4 coffee because I can get it
> > > elsewhere or make it at home for cheap...but gas doesn't seem to work
> > > that way.
> >
> > Oh... don't get me wrong... I think we are getting screwed at the pump. I
> > laughed this morning when some "talking head" on TV said that the lower
oil
> > prices would take 4 to 6 weeks to make a difference at the pump. Of
course,
> > when eh cost of a barrel of oil goes up, the price at the pump goes up
> > overnight.
> >
> > I don't like Newt Gingrich but I agree with much of what he says in this
> > video:
> >
> > http :// www .youtube,com /watch?v=UOpcPfAarjY
> >
> > I am an environmentalist... but buying oil from foreign countries when we
> > have untapped reserves here is just plain stupid.... and not using nuclear
> > power to generate electricity is criminal. FRANCE generates 70% of their
> > electricity from nuclear power while we still burn coal as if it were the
> > 1800's. Shame on us.
> >
> > Let's use our own oil (safely)... and lessen our dependence on oil and
coal
> > by going nuclear.
> >
> > George L
>
> George..your absolutely correct about Nuclear power.
>
> observant lurker
--------
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That's supposed to be "nucular" power, JP.
FYP
Tom
On Jul 18 2008 2:14 PM, Observant Lurker wrote:
> On Jul 18 2008 10:15 AM, George Leppla wrote:
>
> > "Tex" <twizzard@hotmail,com > wrote in message
> > news:0n4184tls17onfslvcj208uj6l5dm7j54t@4ax,com ...
> > > On Fri, 18 Jul 2008 06:47:01 -0500, "George Leppla"
> > > <george@cruisemaster,com > wrote:
> > >
> > >>
> > >>"Walt" <none@none.void> wrote in message
> > >>news:180720080148092888%none@none.void...
> > >>> Sixteen Starbucks stores in Vegas will be among the 600 announced
> > >>> closings. No casino outlets are slated for closing.
> > >>>
> > >>> http :// www .lvrj,com /breaking news/25598959.html
> > >>>
> > >>> According to the Starbucks store locator, the Vegas area will be left
> > >>> with fewer than 170 Starbucks locations.
> > >>
> > >>People complain about $4 a gallon gas. They should be complaining about
a
> > >>$4 cup of coffee.
> > >>
> > >>I like coffee... but I never bought into the Starbucks mystique. It's
> > >>just
> > >>coffee with various kinds of crap added.
> > >>
> > >>McDonald's coffee suits me fine.
> > >>
> > >>George L
> > >
> > > I don't have a reason to complain about $4 coffee because I can get it
> > > elsewhere or make it at home for cheap...but gas doesn't seem to work
> > > that way.
> >
> > Oh... don't get me wrong... I think we are getting screwed at the pump. I
> > laughed this morning when some "talking head" on TV said that the lower
oil
> > prices would take 4 to 6 weeks to make a difference at the pump. Of
course,
> > when eh cost of a barrel of oil goes up, the price at the pump goes up
> > overnight.
> >
> > I don't like Newt Gingrich but I agree with much of what he says in this
> > video:
> >
> > http :// www .youtube,com /watch?v=UOpcPfAarjY
> >
> > I am an environmentalist... but buying oil from foreign countries when we
> > have untapped reserves here is just plain stupid.... and not using nuclear
> > power to generate electricity is criminal. FRANCE generates 70% of their
> > electricity from nuclear power while we still burn coal as if it were the
> > 1800's. Shame on us.
> >
> > Let's use our own oil (safely)... and lessen our dependence on oil and
coal
> > by going nuclear.
> >
> > George L
>
> George..your absolutely correct about Nuclear power.
>
> observant lurker
--------
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Re: Starbucks Closings in Vegas
On Jul 18, 7:15 am, "George Leppla" <geo...@cruisemaster,com > wrote:
> I am an environmentalist... but buying oil from foreign countries when we
> have untapped reserves here is just plain stupid.... and not using nuclear
> power to generate electricity is criminal. FRANCE generates 70% of their
> electricity from nuclear power while we still burn coal as if it were the
> 1800's. Shame on us.
>
> Let's use our own oil (safely)... and lessen our dependence on oil and coal
> by going nuclear.
This is probably the most brilliant thing you have ever written,
George. I just heard that if we built just one nuclear plant in NM
(we have none) that it would generate 1/2 all of our electric needs.
--EE--
On Jul 18, 7:15 am, "George Leppla" <geo...@cruisemaster,com > wrote:
> I am an environmentalist... but buying oil from foreign countries when we
> have untapped reserves here is just plain stupid.... and not using nuclear
> power to generate electricity is criminal. FRANCE generates 70% of their
> electricity from nuclear power while we still burn coal as if it were the
> 1800's. Shame on us.
>
> Let's use our own oil (safely)... and lessen our dependence on oil and coal
> by going nuclear.
This is probably the most brilliant thing you have ever written,
George. I just heard that if we built just one nuclear plant in NM
(we have none) that it would generate 1/2 all of our electric needs.
--EE--
Re: Starbucks Closings in Vegas
> > I am an environmentalist... but buying oil from foreign countries when we
> > have untapped reserves here is just plain stupid.... and not using nuclear
> > power to generate electricity is criminal. FRANCE generates 70% of their
> > electricity from nuclear power while we still burn coal as if it were the
> > 1800's. Shame on us.
>
> > Let's use our own oil (safely)... and lessen our dependence on oil and coal
> > by going nuclear.
>
> This is probably the most brilliant thing you have ever written,
> George. I just heard that if we built just one nuclear plant in NM
> (we have none) that it would generate 1/2 all of our electric needs.
Note that almost no electrical power in the US comes from "buying oil
from foreign contries".
It might make sense for us to burn less coal and use more nuclear. But
that debate has almost nothing to do with foreign oil.
> > I am an environmentalist... but buying oil from foreign countries when we
> > have untapped reserves here is just plain stupid.... and not using nuclear
> > power to generate electricity is criminal. FRANCE generates 70% of their
> > electricity from nuclear power while we still burn coal as if it were the
> > 1800's. Shame on us.
>
> > Let's use our own oil (safely)... and lessen our dependence on oil and coal
> > by going nuclear.
>
> This is probably the most brilliant thing you have ever written,
> George. I just heard that if we built just one nuclear plant in NM
> (we have none) that it would generate 1/2 all of our electric needs.
Note that almost no electrical power in the US comes from "buying oil
from foreign contries".
It might make sense for us to burn less coal and use more nuclear. But
that debate has almost nothing to do with foreign oil.
Re: Starbucks Closings in Vegas
<salmoneous@aol,com > wrote in message news:2f6f02da-5c65-439c-b0bb It might
make sense for us to burn less coal and use more nuclear. But that debate
has almost nothing to do with foreign oil.
It has everything to do with foreign oil. If people expect us to
find alternative sources for energy (all electric vehicles) we will
need an infrastructure that is capable of handling the increased
demand on the nation's electrical grid. Granted that the electrical
cars will be hopefully more efficient...
I am always amazed that folks believe that alternative energy
is some sort of magical power conjured out of the air.
Pete
<salmoneous@aol,com > wrote in message news:2f6f02da-5c65-439c-b0bb It might
make sense for us to burn less coal and use more nuclear. But that debate
has almost nothing to do with foreign oil.
It has everything to do with foreign oil. If people expect us to
find alternative sources for energy (all electric vehicles) we will
need an infrastructure that is capable of handling the increased
demand on the nation's electrical grid. Granted that the electrical
cars will be hopefully more efficient...
I am always amazed that folks believe that alternative energy
is some sort of magical power conjured out of the air.
Pete
