More Bux stuff

More Bux stuff

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Most of the locations closing are ones that they opened in the last year.
It's typical Roman empire type stuff - first you conquer all the most
desirable places and then when all best locations are conquered but your
economic model depends on continous expansion, you keep conquering anyway
even if the new places are marginal - you hope the economy will grow and
catch up with these locations. When times turn tough, the last places
conquered are the first places you give up.


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On Jul 15, 8:02 pm, "Jack Denver" <nunuv...@netscape . net > wrote:
> Most of the locations closing are ones that they opened in the last year.
> It's typical Roman empire type stuff - first you conquer all the most
> desirable places and then when all best locations are conquered but your
> economic model depends on continous expansion, you keep conquering anyway
> even if the new places are marginal - you hope the economy will grow and
> catch up with these locations. When times turn tough, the last places
> conquered are the first places you give up.
>
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Well, thanks a lot, Jack. There went my plans for "Nero's"
coffeehouses. The theme was the coffee was going to taste burnt and we
would play a lot of fiddle music.
Bernie

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Jack, Bernie.

You guys alone are worth the price of admission to this show.

-DNS

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In article <cd79d486-ac5c-43ea-a575-8c56d0318288
@a1g2000hsb.googlegroups . com >, bdigman@zianet . com says...
> On Jul 15, 8:02 pm, "Jack Denver" <nunuv...@netscape . net > wrote:
> > Most of the locations closing are ones that they opened in the last year.
> > It's typical Roman empire type stuff - first you conquer all the most
> > desirable places and then when all best locations are conquered but your
> > economic model depends on continous expansion, you keep conquering anyway
> > even if the new places are marginal - you hope the economy will grow and
> > catch up with these locations. When times turn tough, the last places
> > conquered are the first places you give up.
> >
> > "sprsso" <spr...@yahoo . com > wrote in message
> >
> > news:4c8c130f-1c12-4459-8bcb-0a2d3ca89c2f@s50g2000hsb.googlegroups . com ...
> >
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>
>
> Well, thanks a lot, Jack. There went my plans for "Nero's"
> coffeehouses. The theme was the coffee was going to taste burnt and we
> would play a lot of fiddle music.

Don't give up on that one just yet. Surely it's a winner in a fin de
siècle society?

Java

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On Thu, 17 Jul 2008 23:49:39 GMT, Espressopithecus (Java Man)
<rickk@letterectomyTELUS . net > wrote:

>> Well, thanks a lot, Jack. There went my plans for "Nero's"
>> coffeehouses. The theme was the coffee was going to taste burnt and we
>> would play a lot of fiddle music.
>
>Don't give up on that one just yet. Surely it's a winner in a fin de
>siècle society?
>
>Java

Anyone want to buy neroliras . com ? ;-)

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sprsso wrote:
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The article mentions that the Central Islip location is a mile from the
US courthouse but doesn't mention the even larger Suffolk County Court
Complex, Touro Law School, NY Institute of Technology (complete with a
culinary institute and restaurant) a minor league baseball stadium and
countless condominiums are also a mile or so south of the *$ location.
The problem is the highway to get to or from the courts, etc. is south
and *$ is north. I'm not sure how the other stores in the shopping
center are doing but the moral of the story might be that people will go
to *$ if it's in their way but not if it's out of their way.

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This is why they sometimes have locations across the street from each other
so they could get the traffic going in either direction. Until recently,
Starbucks was the master of location picking. As I said before, if they
picked some lousy ones lately it was only because they had already taken all
the better ones. Someone in the field should have had the guts to stand up
to HQ and told them "we don't see any additional locations that meet our
criteria" but HQ wanted X locations opened so they could hit their targets,
so X locations were opened whether the locations made sense or not. Again,
this is the nature of out-of-control bureaucracies - at some point they stop
operating like rational humans and they function according to their own
internal (crazy) logic and priorities until/unless someone snaps them out of
it.


"Moka Java" <rtwatches@fishyahoo . com > wrote in message
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> sprsso wrote:
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>
> The article mentions that the Central Islip location is a mile from the US
> courthouse but doesn't mention the even larger Suffolk County Court
> Complex, Touro Law School, NY Institute of Technology (complete with a
> culinary institute and restaurant) a minor league baseball stadium and
> countless condominiums are also a mile or so south of the *$ location. The
> problem is the highway to get to or from the courts, etc. is south and *$
> is north. I'm not sure how the other stores in the shopping center are
> doing but the moral of the story might be that people will go to *$ if
> it's in their way but not if it's out of their way.

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Stated before,
Not always true that they pick some lousy ones .. because they had already
taken all the better ones. Not so in Winchester, VA.
There are no Starbucks in the 'real' shopping districts in Winchester.
There is one on the outskirts of Winchester in a shopping center that has a
grocery store and little else. It is even on the opposite side of the
highway that you are driving to it -- leaving town.
If you are driving into Winchester, you will be able to entrance it;
however, where the hell have you come from on Rt. 7 if you are driving into
Winchester.
Bad, bad location AFAIC.
Dee Dee




"Jack Denver" <nunuvyer@netscape . net > wrote in message
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> This is why they sometimes have locations across the street from each
> other so they could get the traffic going in either direction. Until
> recently, Starbucks was the master of location picking. As I said before,
> if they picked some lousy ones lately it was only because they had already
> taken all the better ones. Someone in the field should have had the guts
> to stand up to HQ and told them "we don't see any additional locations
> that meet our criteria" but HQ wanted X locations opened so they could hit
> their targets, so X locations were opened whether the locations made sense
> or not. Again, this is the nature of out-of-control bureaucracies - at
> some point they stop operating like rational humans and they function
> according to their own internal (crazy) logic and priorities until/unless
> someone snaps them out of it.
>
>
> "Moka Java" <rtwatches@fishyahoo . com > wrote in message
> news:6e63cpF5glrlU1@mid.individual . net ...
>> sprsso wrote:
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>>
>> The article mentions that the Central Islip location is a mile from the
>> US courthouse but doesn't mention the even larger Suffolk County Court
>> Complex, Touro Law School, NY Institute of Technology (complete with a
>> culinary institute and restaurant) a minor league baseball stadium and
>> countless condominiums are also a mile or so south of the *$ location.
>> The problem is the highway to get to or from the courts, etc. is south
>> and *$ is north. I'm not sure how the other stores in the shopping
>> center are doing but the moral of the story might be that people will go
>> to *$ if it's in their way but not if it's out of their way.
>

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