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the almost 4,000 American service people that have died to stop Iraq
from acquiring and using weapons of mass destruction and Saddam working
with al Qaeda.
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ABC News has requested and obtained a copy of the Pentagon study which
shows Saddam Hussein had no links to Al Qaeda.
READ THE FULL REPORT HERE:
http :// a.abcnews,com /images/pdf/Pentagon Report V1.pdf
It's government report the White House didn't want you to read:
yesterday the Pentagon canceled plans to send out a press release
announcing the report's availability and didn't make the report
available via email or online.
Based on the analysis of some 600,000 official Iraqi documents seized by
US forces after the invasion and thousands of hours of interrogations of
former officials in Saddam's government now in US custody, the
government report is the first official acknowledgment from the US
military that there is no evidence Saddam had ties to al Qaeda.
###
If you have 70 minutes to watch, try
http :// www .leadingtowar,com /watch online.php where you can watch every
single lie told that got us into the war right from the horses
asses^H^H^H^H^H mouths.
If it weren't for the fact that my nephew is a Ranger and is over there
right now I would actually be able to take some pleasure in saying "I
told you so." As it is, I'm just holding my breath waiting for his
rotation in-country to end.
###
Nearly three dozen U.S. Tomahawk cruise missiles and dozens of bombs
delivered by two F-117 stealth bombers suddenly rained down on chosen
targets in Baghdad five years ago today, commencing the Iraq war.
Like its predecessor, the Persian Gulf War a decade earlier, this
conflict was expected by many to result in a lightning-fast victory,
standing as a demonstration of America's technological strength and
military superiority.
But the intractable war has now become one of the longest in the
nation's history, having outlasted the American Revolution, the Civil
and Korean war and America's participation in both World Wars I and II.
And its end is not within sight.
The cost of the conflict to the United States to date, measured in
dollars, has been in excess of $500 billion. However, the cost, in terms
of lives, is less easily measured.
Nearly 4,000 members of the U.S. military have died since the beginning
of the war, including nearly two dozen with ties to Western
Massachusetts and Northern Connecticut. And by some estimates, 80,000 to
150,000 Iraqis have been killed since the 2003 invasion.
Statistics can obscure the true reality of those losses, though. A
single flag and a photograph of her dead son sit outside the Deerfield
home of Kathleen N. Belanger, a memorial to him that she hopes will say
more about the heartache caused by the Iraq War than mere numbers.
An Army Reservist, Sgt. Gregory A. Belanger, was 24 when he died on Aug.
27, 2003. He was sent to Iraq as a cook, but on the night he was killed,
he volunteered to drive a truck in a convoy for someone who was in the
shower. A bomb hit his vehicle.
"Greg was number 200 and something to die. Now, it's nearly at the 4,000
mark. I never thought the war would go on this long. The nightly news
shows used to do profiles of the men and women who were killed in Iraq,
but they've ceased doing that," she said.
Five years into the conflict, the decision to start the war is seen by
more and more Americans as unjustified. Two weeks after the war began,
72 percent of Americans polled believed launching the invasion was the
right decision, according to a survey by the nonpartisan Pew Research
Center for the People and the Press. Last month, a poll by the same
group found that only 38 percent still felt the United States made the
right decision.
U.S. Rep. Richard E. Neal, D-Springfield, was among the minority in
Congress who voted against the war resolution in October 2002, which
gave President George W. Bush the power to wage the war.
"I look back at this, and I think the administration clearly misled us.
I think they cooked the books in an effort to justify the Iraq
invasion," Neal said. "Obviously, it didn't turn out the way the
administration said it was going to. Four thousand dead. Heading toward
a trillion dollars in cost. The irony is that Iraq is more unstable
today than at any other time I can remember."
###
the almost 4,000 American service people that have died to stop Iraq
from acquiring and using weapons of mass destruction and Saddam working
with al Qaeda.
http :// www .timetogojoe,com /images/renew-energy.gif
###
ABC News has requested and obtained a copy of the Pentagon study which
shows Saddam Hussein had no links to Al Qaeda.
READ THE FULL REPORT HERE:
http :// a.abcnews,com /images/pdf/Pentagon Report V1.pdf
It's government report the White House didn't want you to read:
yesterday the Pentagon canceled plans to send out a press release
announcing the report's availability and didn't make the report
available via email or online.
Based on the analysis of some 600,000 official Iraqi documents seized by
US forces after the invasion and thousands of hours of interrogations of
former officials in Saddam's government now in US custody, the
government report is the first official acknowledgment from the US
military that there is no evidence Saddam had ties to al Qaeda.
###
If you have 70 minutes to watch, try
http :// www .leadingtowar,com /watch online.php where you can watch every
single lie told that got us into the war right from the horses
asses^H^H^H^H^H mouths.
If it weren't for the fact that my nephew is a Ranger and is over there
right now I would actually be able to take some pleasure in saying "I
told you so." As it is, I'm just holding my breath waiting for his
rotation in-country to end.
###
Nearly three dozen U.S. Tomahawk cruise missiles and dozens of bombs
delivered by two F-117 stealth bombers suddenly rained down on chosen
targets in Baghdad five years ago today, commencing the Iraq war.
Like its predecessor, the Persian Gulf War a decade earlier, this
conflict was expected by many to result in a lightning-fast victory,
standing as a demonstration of America's technological strength and
military superiority.
But the intractable war has now become one of the longest in the
nation's history, having outlasted the American Revolution, the Civil
and Korean war and America's participation in both World Wars I and II.
And its end is not within sight.
The cost of the conflict to the United States to date, measured in
dollars, has been in excess of $500 billion. However, the cost, in terms
of lives, is less easily measured.
Nearly 4,000 members of the U.S. military have died since the beginning
of the war, including nearly two dozen with ties to Western
Massachusetts and Northern Connecticut. And by some estimates, 80,000 to
150,000 Iraqis have been killed since the 2003 invasion.
Statistics can obscure the true reality of those losses, though. A
single flag and a photograph of her dead son sit outside the Deerfield
home of Kathleen N. Belanger, a memorial to him that she hopes will say
more about the heartache caused by the Iraq War than mere numbers.
An Army Reservist, Sgt. Gregory A. Belanger, was 24 when he died on Aug.
27, 2003. He was sent to Iraq as a cook, but on the night he was killed,
he volunteered to drive a truck in a convoy for someone who was in the
shower. A bomb hit his vehicle.
"Greg was number 200 and something to die. Now, it's nearly at the 4,000
mark. I never thought the war would go on this long. The nightly news
shows used to do profiles of the men and women who were killed in Iraq,
but they've ceased doing that," she said.
Five years into the conflict, the decision to start the war is seen by
more and more Americans as unjustified. Two weeks after the war began,
72 percent of Americans polled believed launching the invasion was the
right decision, according to a survey by the nonpartisan Pew Research
Center for the People and the Press. Last month, a poll by the same
group found that only 38 percent still felt the United States made the
right decision.
U.S. Rep. Richard E. Neal, D-Springfield, was among the minority in
Congress who voted against the war resolution in October 2002, which
gave President George W. Bush the power to wage the war.
"I look back at this, and I think the administration clearly misled us.
I think they cooked the books in an effort to justify the Iraq
invasion," Neal said. "Obviously, it didn't turn out the way the
administration said it was going to. Four thousand dead. Heading toward
a trillion dollars in cost. The irony is that Iraq is more unstable
today than at any other time I can remember."
###
Re: Smoke one for...
On Mar 19, 4:31 am, met00 <met00ci...@gmail,com > wrote:
> the almost 4,000 American service people that have died to stop Iraq
> from acquiring and using weapons of mass destruction and Saddam working
> with al Qaeda.
Tragic, for sure... but hardly significant when compared to:
"The National Highway Traffic Safety
Administration reported that in 2000, 41,821
people were killed on our nation's highways; 40
percent of these fatalities involved alcohol."
Do the math.
Set your priorities appropriately.
On Mar 19, 4:31 am, met00 <met00ci...@gmail,com > wrote:
> the almost 4,000 American service people that have died to stop Iraq
> from acquiring and using weapons of mass destruction and Saddam working
> with al Qaeda.
Tragic, for sure... but hardly significant when compared to:
"The National Highway Traffic Safety
Administration reported that in 2000, 41,821
people were killed on our nation's highways; 40
percent of these fatalities involved alcohol."
Do the math.
Set your priorities appropriately.
Re: Smoke one for...
Unc G wrote:
> On Mar 19, 4:31 am, met00 <met00ci...@gmail,com > wrote:
>
>> the almost 4,000 American service people that have died to stop Iraq
>> from acquiring and using weapons of mass destruction and Saddam working
>> with al Qaeda.
>
> Tragic, for sure... but hardly significant when compared to:
>
> "The National Highway Traffic Safety
> Administration reported that in 2000, 41,821
> people were killed on our nation's highways; 40
> percent of these fatalities involved alcohol."
>
> Do the math.
>
> Set your priorities appropriately.
As someone with family in the sandbox (on his fourth tour) I would like
nothing more than to see him and all his fellow servicemen and women
come home ASAP.
Having said that and as long as we're playing the statistics game...
According to several research studies in the last decade, a total of
225,000 Americans per year have died as a result of their medical
treatments:
• 12,000 deaths per year due to unnecessary surgery
• 7000 deaths per year due to medication errors in hospitals
• 20,000 deaths per year due to other errors in hospitals
• 80,000 deaths per year due to infections in hospitals
• 106,000 deaths per year due to negative effects of drugs
Thus, America's healthcare-system-induced deaths are the third leading
cause of the death in the U.S., after heart disease and cancer.
Unc G wrote:
> On Mar 19, 4:31 am, met00 <met00ci...@gmail,com > wrote:
>
>> the almost 4,000 American service people that have died to stop Iraq
>> from acquiring and using weapons of mass destruction and Saddam working
>> with al Qaeda.
>
> Tragic, for sure... but hardly significant when compared to:
>
> "The National Highway Traffic Safety
> Administration reported that in 2000, 41,821
> people were killed on our nation's highways; 40
> percent of these fatalities involved alcohol."
>
> Do the math.
>
> Set your priorities appropriately.
As someone with family in the sandbox (on his fourth tour) I would like
nothing more than to see him and all his fellow servicemen and women
come home ASAP.
Having said that and as long as we're playing the statistics game...
According to several research studies in the last decade, a total of
225,000 Americans per year have died as a result of their medical
treatments:
• 12,000 deaths per year due to unnecessary surgery
• 7000 deaths per year due to medication errors in hospitals
• 20,000 deaths per year due to other errors in hospitals
• 80,000 deaths per year due to infections in hospitals
• 106,000 deaths per year due to negative effects of drugs
Thus, America's healthcare-system-induced deaths are the third leading
cause of the death in the U.S., after heart disease and cancer.
Re: Smoke one for...
On Mar 19, 3:41 pm, Ken Dixon <nsvmi...@bellsouth,net > wrote:
> Unc G wrote:
> > Tragic, for sure... but hardly significant when compared to:
>
> > "The National Highway Traffic Safety
> > Administration reported that in 2000, 41,821
> > people were killed on our nation's highways; 40
> > percent of these fatalities involved alcohol."
>
> > Do the math.
>
> > Set your priorities appropriately.
>
> As someone with family in the sandbox (on his fourth tour) I would like
> nothing more than to see him and all his fellow servicemen and women
> come home ASAP.
> Having said that and as long as we're playing the statistics game...
>
> According to several research studies in the last decade, a total of
> 225,000 Americans per year have died as a result of their medical
> treatments:
> * 12,000 deaths per year due to unnecessary surgery
>
> * 7000 deaths per year due to medication errors in hospitals
>
> * 20,000 deaths per year due to other errors in hospitals
>
> * 80,000 deaths per year due to infections in hospitals
>
> * 106,000 deaths per year due to negative effects of drugs
>
> Thus, America's healthcare-system-induced deaths are the third leading
> cause of the death in the U.S., after heart disease and cancer.- Hide quoted text -
No argument there Ken.
There are DEFINITELY more appropriate areas of concern to citizens of
this country than those related to deaths of our soldiers in Iraq.
On Mar 19, 3:41 pm, Ken Dixon <nsvmi...@bellsouth,net > wrote:
> Unc G wrote:
> > Tragic, for sure... but hardly significant when compared to:
>
> > "The National Highway Traffic Safety
> > Administration reported that in 2000, 41,821
> > people were killed on our nation's highways; 40
> > percent of these fatalities involved alcohol."
>
> > Do the math.
>
> > Set your priorities appropriately.
>
> As someone with family in the sandbox (on his fourth tour) I would like
> nothing more than to see him and all his fellow servicemen and women
> come home ASAP.
> Having said that and as long as we're playing the statistics game...
>
> According to several research studies in the last decade, a total of
> 225,000 Americans per year have died as a result of their medical
> treatments:
> * 12,000 deaths per year due to unnecessary surgery
>
> * 7000 deaths per year due to medication errors in hospitals
>
> * 20,000 deaths per year due to other errors in hospitals
>
> * 80,000 deaths per year due to infections in hospitals
>
> * 106,000 deaths per year due to negative effects of drugs
>
> Thus, America's healthcare-system-induced deaths are the third leading
> cause of the death in the U.S., after heart disease and cancer.- Hide quoted text -
No argument there Ken.
There are DEFINITELY more appropriate areas of concern to citizens of
this country than those related to deaths of our soldiers in Iraq.
Re: Smoke one for...
"Ken Dixon" <nsvmiami@bellsouth,net > wrote in message
news:0UeEj.7468$Q52.6225@bignews9.bellsouth,net ...
> Unc G wrote:
>> On Mar 19, 4:31 am, met00 <met00ci...@gmail,com > wrote:
>>
>>> the almost 4,000 American service people that have died to stop Iraq
>>> from acquiring and using weapons of mass destruction and Saddam working
>>> with al Qaeda.
>>
>> Tragic, for sure... but hardly significant when compared to:
>>
>> "The National Highway Traffic Safety
>> Administration reported that in 2000, 41,821
>> people were killed on our nation's highways; 40
>> percent of these fatalities involved alcohol."
>>
>> Do the math.
>>
>> Set your priorities appropriately.
>
> As someone with family in the sandbox (on his fourth tour) I would like
> nothing more than to see him and all his fellow servicemen and women come
> home ASAP.
> Having said that and as long as we're playing the statistics game...
>
> According to several research studies in the last decade, a total of
> 225,000 Americans per year have died as a result of their medical
> treatments:
> • 12,000 deaths per year due to unnecessary surgery
>
> • 7000 deaths per year due to medication errors in hospitals
>
> • 20,000 deaths per year due to other errors in hospitals
>
> • 80,000 deaths per year due to infections in hospitals
>
> • 106,000 deaths per year due to negative effects of drugs
>
> Thus, America's healthcare-system-induced deaths are the third leading
> cause of the death in the U.S., after heart disease and cancer.
Goes towards the general human inability to correctly assess risk.
An interesting little figure shows that after 9/11 so many Americans shunned
supposedly risky air travel that the number of traffic accident fatalities
rose by 1,500 ....
BTW, the sixth-largest killer of Americans are infectious respiratory
diseases -- all those people coughing and sneezing all over you in the
office and the shops kill as many Americans every year *for certain* as is
alleged for second-hand smoke ...
"Ken Dixon" <nsvmiami@bellsouth,net > wrote in message
news:0UeEj.7468$Q52.6225@bignews9.bellsouth,net ...
> Unc G wrote:
>> On Mar 19, 4:31 am, met00 <met00ci...@gmail,com > wrote:
>>
>>> the almost 4,000 American service people that have died to stop Iraq
>>> from acquiring and using weapons of mass destruction and Saddam working
>>> with al Qaeda.
>>
>> Tragic, for sure... but hardly significant when compared to:
>>
>> "The National Highway Traffic Safety
>> Administration reported that in 2000, 41,821
>> people were killed on our nation's highways; 40
>> percent of these fatalities involved alcohol."
>>
>> Do the math.
>>
>> Set your priorities appropriately.
>
> As someone with family in the sandbox (on his fourth tour) I would like
> nothing more than to see him and all his fellow servicemen and women come
> home ASAP.
> Having said that and as long as we're playing the statistics game...
>
> According to several research studies in the last decade, a total of
> 225,000 Americans per year have died as a result of their medical
> treatments:
> • 12,000 deaths per year due to unnecessary surgery
>
> • 7000 deaths per year due to medication errors in hospitals
>
> • 20,000 deaths per year due to other errors in hospitals
>
> • 80,000 deaths per year due to infections in hospitals
>
> • 106,000 deaths per year due to negative effects of drugs
>
> Thus, America's healthcare-system-induced deaths are the third leading
> cause of the death in the U.S., after heart disease and cancer.
Goes towards the general human inability to correctly assess risk.
An interesting little figure shows that after 9/11 so many Americans shunned
supposedly risky air travel that the number of traffic accident fatalities
rose by 1,500 ....
BTW, the sixth-largest killer of Americans are infectious respiratory
diseases -- all those people coughing and sneezing all over you in the
office and the shops kill as many Americans every year *for certain* as is
alleged for second-hand smoke ...
Re: Smoke one for...
In article <64dmqcF2biqnbU1@mid.individual,net >,
"Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> "Ken Dixon" <nsvmiami@bellsouth,net > wrote in message
> news:0UeEj.7468$Q52.6225@bignews9.bellsouth,net ...
> > Unc G wrote:
> >> On Mar 19, 4:31 am, met00 <met00ci...@gmail,com > wrote:
> >>
> >>> the almost 4,000 American service people that have died to stop Iraq
[snip]
> >> Tragic, for sure... but hardly significant when compared to:
> >>
> >> "The National Highway Traffic Safety
> >> Administration reported that in 2000, 41,821
[snip]
> > According to several research studies in the last decade, a total of
> > 225,000 Americans per year have died as a result of their medical
[snip]
It's probably only really fair to compare numbers when given in
per-capita terms. A lot more people drive than go to war, for example.
Otherwise, you end up with silliness like "last year, 48,700,000 people
died while SLEEPING..."
--
Please take off your pants or I won't read your e-mail.
I will not, no matter how "good" the deal, patronise any business which sends
unsolicited commercial e-mail or that advertises in discussion newsgroups.
In article <64dmqcF2biqnbU1@mid.individual,net >,
"Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> "Ken Dixon" <nsvmiami@bellsouth,net > wrote in message
> news:0UeEj.7468$Q52.6225@bignews9.bellsouth,net ...
> > Unc G wrote:
> >> On Mar 19, 4:31 am, met00 <met00ci...@gmail,com > wrote:
> >>
> >>> the almost 4,000 American service people that have died to stop Iraq
[snip]
> >> Tragic, for sure... but hardly significant when compared to:
> >>
> >> "The National Highway Traffic Safety
> >> Administration reported that in 2000, 41,821
[snip]
> > According to several research studies in the last decade, a total of
> > 225,000 Americans per year have died as a result of their medical
[snip]
It's probably only really fair to compare numbers when given in
per-capita terms. A lot more people drive than go to war, for example.
Otherwise, you end up with silliness like "last year, 48,700,000 people
died while SLEEPING..."
--
Please take off your pants or I won't read your e-mail.
I will not, no matter how "good" the deal, patronise any business which sends
unsolicited commercial e-mail or that advertises in discussion newsgroups.
Re: Smoke one for...
Miss Elaine Eos wrote:
> In article <64dmqcF2biqnbU1@mid.individual,net >,
> "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> "Ken Dixon" <nsvmiami@bellsouth,net > wrote in message
>> news:0UeEj.7468$Q52.6225@bignews9.bellsouth,net ...
>>> Unc G wrote:
>>>> On Mar 19, 4:31 am, met00 <met00ci...@gmail,com > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> the almost 4,000 American service people that have died to stop Iraq
> [snip]
>
>>>> Tragic, for sure... but hardly significant when compared to:
>>>>
>>>> "The National Highway Traffic Safety
>>>> Administration reported that in 2000, 41,821
> [snip]
>
>>> According to several research studies in the last decade, a total of
>>> 225,000 Americans per year have died as a result of their medical
> [snip]
>
> It's probably only really fair to compare numbers when given in
> per-capita terms. A lot more people drive than go to war, for example.
>
> Otherwise, you end up with silliness like "last year, 48,700,000 people
> died while SLEEPING..."
>
Which brings us back to
http :// www .sfgate,com /cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/g/a/2008/02/01/notes020108.DTL
Miss Elaine Eos wrote:
> In article <64dmqcF2biqnbU1@mid.individual,net >,
> "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> "Ken Dixon" <nsvmiami@bellsouth,net > wrote in message
>> news:0UeEj.7468$Q52.6225@bignews9.bellsouth,net ...
>>> Unc G wrote:
>>>> On Mar 19, 4:31 am, met00 <met00ci...@gmail,com > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> the almost 4,000 American service people that have died to stop Iraq
> [snip]
>
>>>> Tragic, for sure... but hardly significant when compared to:
>>>>
>>>> "The National Highway Traffic Safety
>>>> Administration reported that in 2000, 41,821
> [snip]
>
>>> According to several research studies in the last decade, a total of
>>> 225,000 Americans per year have died as a result of their medical
> [snip]
>
> It's probably only really fair to compare numbers when given in
> per-capita terms. A lot more people drive than go to war, for example.
>
> Otherwise, you end up with silliness like "last year, 48,700,000 people
> died while SLEEPING..."
>
Which brings us back to
http :// www .sfgate,com /cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/g/a/2008/02/01/notes020108.DTL
Re: Smoke one for...
"Miss Elaine Eos" <Misc@your-pants.PlayNaked,com > wrote in message
news:Misc-0615CB.20395219032008@news.sf.sbcglobal,net ...
> In article <64dmqcF2biqnbU1@mid.individual,net >,
> "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> "Ken Dixon" <nsvmiami@bellsouth,net > wrote in message
>> news:0UeEj.7468$Q52.6225@bignews9.bellsouth,net ...
>> > According to several research studies in the last decade, a total of
>> > 225,000 Americans per year have died as a result of their medical
> [snip]
>
> It's probably only really fair to compare numbers when given in
> per-capita terms. A lot more people drive than go to war, for example.
>
> Otherwise, you end up with silliness like "last year, 48,700,000 people
> died while SLEEPING..."
In this context, a straightforward comparison with other causes of death is
quite sufficient, IMO.
And while the comparison may not be strictly valid, it does serve to
highlight the discrepancy in public perception between actual and felt
mortality risk.
"Miss Elaine Eos" <Misc@your-pants.PlayNaked,com > wrote in message
news:Misc-0615CB.20395219032008@news.sf.sbcglobal,net ...
> In article <64dmqcF2biqnbU1@mid.individual,net >,
> "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> "Ken Dixon" <nsvmiami@bellsouth,net > wrote in message
>> news:0UeEj.7468$Q52.6225@bignews9.bellsouth,net ...
>> > According to several research studies in the last decade, a total of
>> > 225,000 Americans per year have died as a result of their medical
> [snip]
>
> It's probably only really fair to compare numbers when given in
> per-capita terms. A lot more people drive than go to war, for example.
>
> Otherwise, you end up with silliness like "last year, 48,700,000 people
> died while SLEEPING..."
In this context, a straightforward comparison with other causes of death is
quite sufficient, IMO.
And while the comparison may not be strictly valid, it does serve to
highlight the discrepancy in public perception between actual and felt
mortality risk.
Re: Smoke one for...
"Unc G" <pauld1943@yahoo,com > wrote in message
news:9db74625-2457-442e-bd41-2d3f2c1dfcea@n58g2000hsf.googlegroups,com ...
> On Mar 19, 4:31 am, met00 <met00ci...@gmail,com > wrote:
>
>> the almost 4,000 American service people that have died to stop Iraq
>> from acquiring and using weapons of mass destruction and Saddam working
>> with al Qaeda.
>
> Tragic, for sure... but hardly significant when compared to:
>
> "The National Highway Traffic Safety
> Administration reported that in 2000, 41,821
> people were killed on our nation's highways; 40
> percent of these fatalities involved alcohol."
>
> Do the math.
OK, that means that 60% of the fatalities did NOT involve alcohol.
"Never drink while you're driving. You might hit a bump and spill it all".
bernie
"Unc G" <pauld1943@yahoo,com > wrote in message
news:9db74625-2457-442e-bd41-2d3f2c1dfcea@n58g2000hsf.googlegroups,com ...
> On Mar 19, 4:31 am, met00 <met00ci...@gmail,com > wrote:
>
>> the almost 4,000 American service people that have died to stop Iraq
>> from acquiring and using weapons of mass destruction and Saddam working
>> with al Qaeda.
>
> Tragic, for sure... but hardly significant when compared to:
>
> "The National Highway Traffic Safety
> Administration reported that in 2000, 41,821
> people were killed on our nation's highways; 40
> percent of these fatalities involved alcohol."
>
> Do the math.
OK, that means that 60% of the fatalities did NOT involve alcohol.
"Never drink while you're driving. You might hit a bump and spill it all".
bernie
