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The Silent Scream of the Asparagus; will tobacco be next?
These people put the cuckoo in the cuckoo clock.
CigarSki
http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/015/065njdoe.asp?pg=1
The Silent Scream of the Asparagus
Get ready for 'plant rights.'
by Wesley J. Smith
05/12/2008, Volume 013, Issue 33
You just knew it was coming: At the request of the Swiss government, an
ethics panel has weighed in on the "dignity" of plants and opined that
the arbitrary killing of flora is morally wrong. This is no hoax. The
concept of what could be called "plant rights" is being seriously debated.
A few years ago the Swiss added to their national constitution a
provision requiring "account to be taken of the dignity of creation when
handling animals, plants and other organisms." No one knew exactly what
it meant, so they asked the Swiss Federal Ethics Committee on Non-Human
Biotechnology to figure it out. The resulting report, "The Dignity of
Living Beings with Regard to Plants," is enough to short circuit the brain.
A "clear majority" of the panel adopted what it called a "biocentric"
moral view, meaning that "living organisms should be considered morally
for their own sake because they are alive." Thus, the panel determined
that we cannot claim "absolute ownership" over plants and, moreover,
that "individual plants have an inherent worth." This means that "we may
not use them just as we please, even if the plant community is not in
danger, or if our actions do not endanger the species, or if we are not
acting arbitrarily."
CigarSki
http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/015/065njdoe.asp?pg=1
The Silent Scream of the Asparagus
Get ready for 'plant rights.'
by Wesley J. Smith
05/12/2008, Volume 013, Issue 33
You just knew it was coming: At the request of the Swiss government, an
ethics panel has weighed in on the "dignity" of plants and opined that
the arbitrary killing of flora is morally wrong. This is no hoax. The
concept of what could be called "plant rights" is being seriously debated.
A few years ago the Swiss added to their national constitution a
provision requiring "account to be taken of the dignity of creation when
handling animals, plants and other organisms." No one knew exactly what
it meant, so they asked the Swiss Federal Ethics Committee on Non-Human
Biotechnology to figure it out. The resulting report, "The Dignity of
Living Beings with Regard to Plants," is enough to short circuit the brain.
A "clear majority" of the panel adopted what it called a "biocentric"
moral view, meaning that "living organisms should be considered morally
for their own sake because they are alive." Thus, the panel determined
that we cannot claim "absolute ownership" over plants and, moreover,
that "individual plants have an inherent worth." This means that "we may
not use them just as we please, even if the plant community is not in
danger, or if our actions do not endanger the species, or if we are not
acting arbitrarily."
CigarSki wrote:
> These people put the cuckoo in the cuckoo clock.
>
> CigarSki
>
> http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/015/065njdoe.asp?pg=1
>
> The Silent Scream of the Asparagus
> Get ready for 'plant rights.'
> by Wesley J. Smith
> 05/12/2008, Volume 013, Issue 33
>
> You just knew it was coming: At the request of the Swiss government, an
> ethics panel has weighed in on the "dignity" of plants and opined that
> the arbitrary killing of flora is morally wrong. This is no hoax. The
> concept of what could be called "plant rights" is being seriously debated.
>
I remember back in the late 60's or early 70's a group of yanqui tree
huggers trying to stop a logging operation claiming they could hear the
trees "screaming in agony". What goes around, comes around.
> These people put the cuckoo in the cuckoo clock.
>
> CigarSki
>
> http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/015/065njdoe.asp?pg=1
>
> The Silent Scream of the Asparagus
> Get ready for 'plant rights.'
> by Wesley J. Smith
> 05/12/2008, Volume 013, Issue 33
>
> You just knew it was coming: At the request of the Swiss government, an
> ethics panel has weighed in on the "dignity" of plants and opined that
> the arbitrary killing of flora is morally wrong. This is no hoax. The
> concept of what could be called "plant rights" is being seriously debated.
>
I remember back in the late 60's or early 70's a group of yanqui tree
huggers trying to stop a logging operation claiming they could hear the
trees "screaming in agony". What goes around, comes around.
Ken Dixon <nsvmiami@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>CigarSki wrote:
>> These people put the cuckoo in the cuckoo clock.
>>
>> CigarSki
>>
>> http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/015/065njdoe.asp?pg=1
>>
>> The Silent Scream of the Asparagus
>> Get ready for 'plant rights.'
>> by Wesley J. Smith
>> 05/12/2008, Volume 013, Issue 33
>>
>> You just knew it was coming: At the request of the Swiss government, an
>> ethics panel has weighed in on the "dignity" of plants and opined that
>> the arbitrary killing of flora is morally wrong. This is no hoax. The
>> concept of what could be called "plant rights" is being seriously debated.
>>
>
>I remember back in the late 60's or early 70's a group of yanqui tree
>huggers trying to stop a logging operation claiming they could hear the
>trees "screaming in agony". What goes around, comes around.
I remember the people hooking up plants to lie detectors or some kind
of sensors and monitoring them while they were "threatened".
You can nip this one in the bud by pointing out that smoking weed is
destroying their little plant friends too.
>CigarSki wrote:
>> These people put the cuckoo in the cuckoo clock.
>>
>> CigarSki
>>
>> http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/015/065njdoe.asp?pg=1
>>
>> The Silent Scream of the Asparagus
>> Get ready for 'plant rights.'
>> by Wesley J. Smith
>> 05/12/2008, Volume 013, Issue 33
>>
>> You just knew it was coming: At the request of the Swiss government, an
>> ethics panel has weighed in on the "dignity" of plants and opined that
>> the arbitrary killing of flora is morally wrong. This is no hoax. The
>> concept of what could be called "plant rights" is being seriously debated.
>>
>
>I remember back in the late 60's or early 70's a group of yanqui tree
>huggers trying to stop a logging operation claiming they could hear the
>trees "screaming in agony". What goes around, comes around.
I remember the people hooking up plants to lie detectors or some kind
of sensors and monitoring them while they were "threatened".
You can nip this one in the bud by pointing out that smoking weed is
destroying their little plant friends too.
"Mickey" <Mickey@NOSPAMFatHounds.com> wrote in message
news:jevr1490eejjcbjgs15d2otkp6a0e4edpv@4ax.com...
> Ken Dixon <nsvmiami@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>
>>CigarSki wrote:
>>> These people put the cuckoo in the cuckoo clock.
>>>
>>> CigarSki
>>>
>>> http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/015/065njdoe.asp?pg=1
>>>
>>> The Silent Scream of the Asparagus
>>> Get ready for 'plant rights.'
>>> by Wesley J. Smith
>>> 05/12/2008, Volume 013, Issue 33
>>>
>>> You just knew it was coming: At the request of the Swiss government, an
>>> ethics panel has weighed in on the "dignity" of plants and opined that
>>> the arbitrary killing of flora is morally wrong. This is no hoax. The
>>> concept of what could be called "plant rights" is being seriously
>>> debated.
>>>
>>
>>I remember back in the late 60's or early 70's a group of yanqui tree
>>huggers trying to stop a logging operation claiming they could hear the
>>trees "screaming in agony". What goes around, comes around.
>
> I remember the people hooking up plants to lie detectors or some kind
> of sensors and monitoring them while they were "threatened".
>
> You can nip this one in the bud by pointing out that smoking weed is
> destroying their little plant friends too.
Not to mention the cocoa plants they shove up their noses...
"Tom S." <t.m.s.work@cox.net> wrote:
>
>"Mickey" <Mickey@NOSPAMFatHounds.com> wrote in message
>news:jevr1490eejjcbjgs15d2otkp6a0e4edpv@4ax.com...
>> Ken Dixon <nsvmiami@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>>
>>>CigarSki wrote:
>>>> These people put the cuckoo in the cuckoo clock.
>>>>
>>>> CigarSki
>>>>
>>>> http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/015/065njdoe.asp?pg=1
>>>>
>>>> The Silent Scream of the Asparagus
>>>> Get ready for 'plant rights.'
>>>> by Wesley J. Smith
>>>> 05/12/2008, Volume 013, Issue 33
>>>>
>>>> You just knew it was coming: At the request of the Swiss government, an
>>>> ethics panel has weighed in on the "dignity" of plants and opined that
>>>> the arbitrary killing of flora is morally wrong. This is no hoax. The
>>>> concept of what could be called "plant rights" is being seriously
>>>> debated.
>>>>
>>>
>>>I remember back in the late 60's or early 70's a group of yanqui tree
>>>huggers trying to stop a logging operation claiming they could hear the
>>>trees "screaming in agony". What goes around, comes around.
>>
>> I remember the people hooking up plants to lie detectors or some kind
>> of sensors and monitoring them while they were "threatened".
>>
>> You can nip this one in the bud by pointing out that smoking weed is
>> destroying their little plant friends too.
>
>Not to mention the cocoa plants they shove up their noses...
>
"I'm cuckoo for cacao puffs!" ;-)
>
>"Mickey" <Mickey@NOSPAMFatHounds.com> wrote in message
>news:jevr1490eejjcbjgs15d2otkp6a0e4edpv@4ax.com...
>> Ken Dixon <nsvmiami@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>>
>>>CigarSki wrote:
>>>> These people put the cuckoo in the cuckoo clock.
>>>>
>>>> CigarSki
>>>>
>>>> http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/015/065njdoe.asp?pg=1
>>>>
>>>> The Silent Scream of the Asparagus
>>>> Get ready for 'plant rights.'
>>>> by Wesley J. Smith
>>>> 05/12/2008, Volume 013, Issue 33
>>>>
>>>> You just knew it was coming: At the request of the Swiss government, an
>>>> ethics panel has weighed in on the "dignity" of plants and opined that
>>>> the arbitrary killing of flora is morally wrong. This is no hoax. The
>>>> concept of what could be called "plant rights" is being seriously
>>>> debated.
>>>>
>>>
>>>I remember back in the late 60's or early 70's a group of yanqui tree
>>>huggers trying to stop a logging operation claiming they could hear the
>>>trees "screaming in agony". What goes around, comes around.
>>
>> I remember the people hooking up plants to lie detectors or some kind
>> of sensors and monitoring them while they were "threatened".
>>
>> You can nip this one in the bud by pointing out that smoking weed is
>> destroying their little plant friends too.
>
>Not to mention the cocoa plants they shove up their noses...
>
"I'm cuckoo for cacao puffs!" ;-)
In article <jevr1490eejjcbjgs15d2otkp6a0e4edpv@4ax.com>,
Mickey <Mickey@NOSPAMFatHounds.com> wrote:
> I remember the people hooking up plants to lie detectors or some kind
> of sensors and monitoring them while they were "threatened".
Oddly, hooking the same electrodes to a rock and holding it over a pot
of boiling water has a similar effect.
Coincidence...? ;)
--
Please take off your pants or I won't read your e-mail.
I will not, no matter how "good" the deal, patronise any business which sends
unsolicited commercial e-mail or that advertises in discussion newsgroups.
Mickey <Mickey@NOSPAMFatHounds.com> wrote:
> I remember the people hooking up plants to lie detectors or some kind
> of sensors and monitoring them while they were "threatened".
Oddly, hooking the same electrodes to a rock and holding it over a pot
of boiling water has a similar effect.
Coincidence...? ;)
--
Please take off your pants or I won't read your e-mail.
I will not, no matter how "good" the deal, patronise any business which sends
unsolicited commercial e-mail or that advertises in discussion newsgroups.
On May 4, 7:16 pm, Miss Elaine Eos <M...@your-pants.PlayNaked.com>
wrote:
> In article <jevr1490eejjcbjgs15d2otkp6a0e4e...@4ax.com>,
>
> Mickey <Mic...@NOSPAMFatHounds.com> wrote:
> > I remember the people hooking up plants to lie detectors or some kind
> > of sensors and monitoring them while they were "threatened".
>
> Oddly, hooking the same electrodes to a rock and holding it over a pot
> of boiling water has a similar effect.
>
> Coincidence...? ;)
>
> --
> Please take off your pants or I won't read your e-mail.
> I will not, no matter how "good" the deal, patronise any business which se=
nds
> unsolicited commercial e-mail or that advertises in discussion newsgroups.=
You regulars really are boring.
wrote:
> In article <jevr1490eejjcbjgs15d2otkp6a0e4e...@4ax.com>,
>
> Mickey <Mic...@NOSPAMFatHounds.com> wrote:
> > I remember the people hooking up plants to lie detectors or some kind
> > of sensors and monitoring them while they were "threatened".
>
> Oddly, hooking the same electrodes to a rock and holding it over a pot
> of boiling water has a similar effect.
>
> Coincidence...? ;)
>
> --
> Please take off your pants or I won't read your e-mail.
> I will not, no matter how "good" the deal, patronise any business which se=
nds
> unsolicited commercial e-mail or that advertises in discussion newsgroups.=
You regulars really are boring.
Miss Elaine Eos <Misc@your-pants.PlayNaked.com> wrote:
>In article <jevr1490eejjcbjgs15d2otkp6a0e4edpv@4ax.com>,
> Mickey <Mickey@NOSPAMFatHounds.com> wrote:
>
>> I remember the people hooking up plants to lie detectors or some kind
>> of sensors and monitoring them while they were "threatened".
>
>Oddly, hooking the same electrodes to a rock and holding it over a pot
>of boiling water has a similar effect.
>
>Coincidence...? ;)
Oh, God, don't give those stupid Swiss any more ideas!
>In article <jevr1490eejjcbjgs15d2otkp6a0e4edpv@4ax.com>,
> Mickey <Mickey@NOSPAMFatHounds.com> wrote:
>
>> I remember the people hooking up plants to lie detectors or some kind
>> of sensors and monitoring them while they were "threatened".
>
>Oddly, hooking the same electrodes to a rock and holding it over a pot
>of boiling water has a similar effect.
>
>Coincidence...? ;)
Oh, God, don't give those stupid Swiss any more ideas!
On Sun, 04 May 2008 19:40:40 -0500, Mickey
<Mickey@NOSPAMFatHounds.com> wrote:
>
>Oh, God, don't give those stupid Swiss any more ideas!
Next it'll be the silent scream of the "cheese." However, they have
no problem catching/eating fish do they?
CigarBaron
<Mickey@NOSPAMFatHounds.com> wrote:
>
>Oh, God, don't give those stupid Swiss any more ideas!
Next it'll be the silent scream of the "cheese." However, they have
no problem catching/eating fish do they?
CigarBaron
Marc Schneiderman wrote:
> On Sun, 04 May 2008 19:40:40 -0500, Mickey
> <Mickey@NOSPAMFatHounds.com> wrote:
>
>> Oh, God, don't give those stupid Swiss any more ideas!
>
> Next it'll be the silent scream of the "cheese." However, they have
> no problem catching/eating fish do they?
> CigarBaron
Let's hope they never see The Incredible Mr. Limpet ;-)
> On Sun, 04 May 2008 19:40:40 -0500, Mickey
> <Mickey@NOSPAMFatHounds.com> wrote:
>
>> Oh, God, don't give those stupid Swiss any more ideas!
>
> Next it'll be the silent scream of the "cheese." However, they have
> no problem catching/eating fish do they?
> CigarBaron
Let's hope they never see The Incredible Mr. Limpet ;-)
Ken Dixon <nsvmiami@bellsouth.net> wrote in news:7aETj.70280$Q52.12964
@bignews9.bellsouth.net:
> Marc Schneiderman wrote:
>> On Sun, 04 May 2008 19:40:40 -0500, Mickey
>> <Mickey@NOSPAMFatHounds.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Oh, God, don't give those stupid Swiss any more ideas!
>>
>> Next it'll be the silent scream of the "cheese." However, they have
>> no problem catching/eating fish do they?
>> CigarBaron
>
> Let's hope they never see The Incredible Mr. Limpet ;-)
Oh, I loved that movie. I wrote a report on it for 3rd
grade English. Can't beat Don Knotts, eh?
B.(The Ghost and Mr. Chicken was even better.)
--
Cheerfully resisting change since 1959.
@bignews9.bellsouth.net:
> Marc Schneiderman wrote:
>> On Sun, 04 May 2008 19:40:40 -0500, Mickey
>> <Mickey@NOSPAMFatHounds.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Oh, God, don't give those stupid Swiss any more ideas!
>>
>> Next it'll be the silent scream of the "cheese." However, they have
>> no problem catching/eating fish do they?
>> CigarBaron
>
> Let's hope they never see The Incredible Mr. Limpet ;-)
Oh, I loved that movie. I wrote a report on it for 3rd
grade English. Can't beat Don Knotts, eh?
B.(The Ghost and Mr. Chicken was even better.)
--
Cheerfully resisting change since 1959.
Marc Schneiderman wrote:
> On Sun, 04 May 2008 19:40:40 -0500, Mickey
> <Mickey@NOSPAMFatHounds.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> Oh, God, don't give those stupid Swiss any more ideas!
>
> Next it'll be the silent scream of the "cheese." However, they have
> no problem catching/eating fish do they?
> CigarBaron
Cheeses eat fish?
bernie...I learn something every day
--
"Official ASC Shaman"
> On Sun, 04 May 2008 19:40:40 -0500, Mickey
> <Mickey@NOSPAMFatHounds.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> Oh, God, don't give those stupid Swiss any more ideas!
>
> Next it'll be the silent scream of the "cheese." However, they have
> no problem catching/eating fish do they?
> CigarBaron
Cheeses eat fish?
bernie...I learn something every day
--
"Official ASC Shaman"
Miss Elaine Eos <Misc@your-pants.PlayNaked.com> wrote in news:Misc-
884454.17162004052008@news.sf.sbcglobal.net:
> In article <jevr1490eejjcbjgs15d2otkp6a0e4edpv@4ax.com>,
> Mickey <Mickey@NOSPAMFatHounds.com> wrote:
>
>> I remember the people hooking up plants to lie detectors or some kind
>> of sensors and monitoring them while they were "threatened".
>
> Oddly, hooking the same electrodes to a rock and holding it over a pot
> of boiling water has a similar effect.
>
> Coincidence...? ;)
"The rocks and stones themselves would start to sing!"
B. (Again, the Weber-Rice translation of the NT.)
--
Cheerfully resisting change since 1959.
884454.17162004052008@news.sf.sbcglobal.net:
> In article <jevr1490eejjcbjgs15d2otkp6a0e4edpv@4ax.com>,
> Mickey <Mickey@NOSPAMFatHounds.com> wrote:
>
>> I remember the people hooking up plants to lie detectors or some kind
>> of sensors and monitoring them while they were "threatened".
>
> Oddly, hooking the same electrodes to a rock and holding it over a pot
> of boiling water has a similar effect.
>
> Coincidence...? ;)
"The rocks and stones themselves would start to sing!"
B. (Again, the Weber-Rice translation of the NT.)
--
Cheerfully resisting change since 1959.
"Bart Goddard" <goddardbe@netscape.net> wrote in message
news:Xns9A94CD3D572DAgoddardbenetscapenet@64.209.0.93...
> Miss Elaine Eos <Misc@your-pants.PlayNaked.com> wrote in news:Misc-
> 884454.17162004052008@news.sf.sbcglobal.net:
>
>> In article <jevr1490eejjcbjgs15d2otkp6a0e4edpv@4ax.com>,
>> Mickey <Mickey@NOSPAMFatHounds.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I remember the people hooking up plants to lie detectors or some kind
>>> of sensors and monitoring them while they were "threatened".
>>
>> Oddly, hooking the same electrodes to a rock and holding it over a pot
>> of boiling water has a similar effect.
>>
>> Coincidence...? ;)
>
> "The rocks and stones themselves would start to sing!"
>
> B. (Again, the Weber-Rice translation of the NT.)
I could have sworn it was from "The Sound of Music" ...
Alex W. wrote:
> "Bart Goddard" <goddardbe@netscape.net> wrote in message
> news:Xns9A94CD3D572DAgoddardbenetscapenet@64.209.0.93...
>
>>Miss Elaine Eos <Misc@your-pants.PlayNaked.com> wrote in news:Misc-
>>884454.17162004052008@news.sf.sbcglobal.net:
>>
>>
>>>In article <jevr1490eejjcbjgs15d2otkp6a0e4edpv@4ax.com>,
>>> Mickey <Mickey@NOSPAMFatHounds.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>I remember the people hooking up plants to lie detectors or some kind
>>>>of sensors and monitoring them while they were "threatened".
>>>
>>>Oddly, hooking the same electrodes to a rock and holding it over a pot
>>>of boiling water has a similar effect.
>>>
>>>Coincidence...? ;)
>>
>>"The rocks and stones themselves would start to sing!"
>>
>>B. (Again, the Weber-Rice translation of the NT.)
>
>
> I could have sworn it was from "The Sound of Music" ...
>
>
>
ya think that, just maybe, it has to do with the change in conductance and the
fact that the steam coats the rocks with moisture?
man! talk about the junk science gullibility of some people. i bet they believe
those ghost hunter shows, too.
> "Bart Goddard" <goddardbe@netscape.net> wrote in message
> news:Xns9A94CD3D572DAgoddardbenetscapenet@64.209.0.93...
>
>>Miss Elaine Eos <Misc@your-pants.PlayNaked.com> wrote in news:Misc-
>>884454.17162004052008@news.sf.sbcglobal.net:
>>
>>
>>>In article <jevr1490eejjcbjgs15d2otkp6a0e4edpv@4ax.com>,
>>> Mickey <Mickey@NOSPAMFatHounds.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>I remember the people hooking up plants to lie detectors or some kind
>>>>of sensors and monitoring them while they were "threatened".
>>>
>>>Oddly, hooking the same electrodes to a rock and holding it over a pot
>>>of boiling water has a similar effect.
>>>
>>>Coincidence...? ;)
>>
>>"The rocks and stones themselves would start to sing!"
>>
>>B. (Again, the Weber-Rice translation of the NT.)
>
>
> I could have sworn it was from "The Sound of Music" ...
>
>
>
ya think that, just maybe, it has to do with the change in conductance and the
fact that the steam coats the rocks with moisture?
man! talk about the junk science gullibility of some people. i bet they believe
those ghost hunter shows, too.
