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Non-cuban
Maybe it's just me, but I think it's been a while since we had a real
thread on cigars.
I smoke only cubans, not because of snobbery, but it seems to me that
in Europe and at the online stores that I frequent, cubans are the
best bang for the buck if you want good cigars. For instance in
Denmark, Davidoffs cost just as much as, and more than, most mid-size,
mid-quality cubans. I use Davidoff only as an example.
So if I were to try non-cubans, and wanted cigars that could match
cubans in quality, and US webshops aren't an option due to customs
(mail from the US seems to be thoroughly checked by Danish customs),
what would be obvious alternatives, and why?
--
padre
Maybe it's just me, but I think it's been a while since we had a real
thread on cigars.
I smoke only cubans, not because of snobbery, but it seems to me that
in Europe and at the online stores that I frequent, cubans are the
best bang for the buck if you want good cigars. For instance in
Denmark, Davidoffs cost just as much as, and more than, most mid-size,
mid-quality cubans. I use Davidoff only as an example.
So if I were to try non-cubans, and wanted cigars that could match
cubans in quality, and US webshops aren't an option due to customs
(mail from the US seems to be thoroughly checked by Danish customs),
what would be obvious alternatives, and why?
--
padre
Re: Non-cuban
Padre <spirito_santo@yahoo,com > wrote:
>Maybe it's just me, but I think it's been a while since we had a real
>thread on cigars.
>
>I smoke only cubans, not because of snobbery, but it seems to me that
>in Europe and at the online stores that I frequent, cubans are the
>best bang for the buck if you want good cigars. For instance in
>Denmark, Davidoffs cost just as much as, and more than, most mid-size,
>mid-quality cubans. I use Davidoff only as an example.
>
>So if I were to try non-cubans, and wanted cigars that could match
>cubans in quality, and US webshops aren't an option due to customs
>(mail from the US seems to be thoroughly checked by Danish customs),
>what would be obvious alternatives, and why?
One of the obvious alternatives are going to be of course, the Opus X.
I haven't smoked may of them, so I can't really say one way or
t'other.
I would also say maybe Tatujae, for strength, although they don't have
the complexity you find in a good Cuban.
The Ashton VSG can be very nice, with a creamy quality, nice spice and
enough strength to hold your attention.
There are some AVO that could possibly compare on complexity, although
they would seem relatively mild.
It's hard. There are so many differences it's almost apples vs
oranges.
Padre <spirito_santo@yahoo,com > wrote:
>Maybe it's just me, but I think it's been a while since we had a real
>thread on cigars.
>
>I smoke only cubans, not because of snobbery, but it seems to me that
>in Europe and at the online stores that I frequent, cubans are the
>best bang for the buck if you want good cigars. For instance in
>Denmark, Davidoffs cost just as much as, and more than, most mid-size,
>mid-quality cubans. I use Davidoff only as an example.
>
>So if I were to try non-cubans, and wanted cigars that could match
>cubans in quality, and US webshops aren't an option due to customs
>(mail from the US seems to be thoroughly checked by Danish customs),
>what would be obvious alternatives, and why?
One of the obvious alternatives are going to be of course, the Opus X.
I haven't smoked may of them, so I can't really say one way or
t'other.
I would also say maybe Tatujae, for strength, although they don't have
the complexity you find in a good Cuban.
The Ashton VSG can be very nice, with a creamy quality, nice spice and
enough strength to hold your attention.
There are some AVO that could possibly compare on complexity, although
they would seem relatively mild.
It's hard. There are so many differences it's almost apples vs
oranges.
Re: Non-cuban
"Mickey" <Mickey@NOSPAMFatHounds,com > wrote in message
news:355u345ofnrftr562bqt5dtf8m56qnn32h@4ax,com ...
> Padre <spirito_santo@yahoo,com > wrote:
> One of the obvious alternatives are going to be of course, the Opus X.
> I haven't smoked may of them, so I can't really say one way or
> t'other.
>
> I would also say maybe Tatujae, for strength, although they don't have
> the complexity you find in a good Cuban.
>
> The Ashton VSG can be very nice, with a creamy quality, nice spice and
> enough strength to hold your attention.
>
> There are some AVO that could possibly compare on complexity, although
> they would seem relatively mild.
>
> It's hard. There are so many differences it's almost apples vs
> oranges.
Here's my list:
La Aurora 1495 Brazilian
CAO Brazilia Gol
La Gloria Cubana Serie #5 Maduro
Ashton Puro Sol and Vintage
ERDM Robusto Larga
Patel Edge and Sun Grown (and occasionally Fusion)
Camacho Coyolar, Select, SLR Maduro
TTT Trinidad
San Cristobal
Hoyo Excalibur Epicure
Punch Vintage and Gran Cru Robusto
"Mickey" <Mickey@NOSPAMFatHounds,com > wrote in message
news:355u345ofnrftr562bqt5dtf8m56qnn32h@4ax,com ...
> Padre <spirito_santo@yahoo,com > wrote:
> One of the obvious alternatives are going to be of course, the Opus X.
> I haven't smoked may of them, so I can't really say one way or
> t'other.
>
> I would also say maybe Tatujae, for strength, although they don't have
> the complexity you find in a good Cuban.
>
> The Ashton VSG can be very nice, with a creamy quality, nice spice and
> enough strength to hold your attention.
>
> There are some AVO that could possibly compare on complexity, although
> they would seem relatively mild.
>
> It's hard. There are so many differences it's almost apples vs
> oranges.
Here's my list:
La Aurora 1495 Brazilian
CAO Brazilia Gol
La Gloria Cubana Serie #5 Maduro
Ashton Puro Sol and Vintage
ERDM Robusto Larga
Patel Edge and Sun Grown (and occasionally Fusion)
Camacho Coyolar, Select, SLR Maduro
TTT Trinidad
San Cristobal
Hoyo Excalibur Epicure
Punch Vintage and Gran Cru Robusto
Re: Non-cuban
On Mon, 2 Jun 2008 14:25:23 -0700, "Tom S." <t.m.s.work@cox,net >
wrote:
>"Mickey" <Mickey@NOSPAMFatHounds,com > wrote in message
>news:355u345ofnrftr562bqt5dtf8m56qnn32h@4ax,com ...
>> Padre <spirito_santo@yahoo,com > wrote:
>> One of the obvious alternatives are going to be of course, the Opus X.
>> I haven't smoked may of them, so I can't really say one way or
>> t'other.
>>
>> I would also say maybe Tatujae, for strength, although they don't have
>> the complexity you find in a good Cuban.
>>
>> The Ashton VSG can be very nice, with a creamy quality, nice spice and
>> enough strength to hold your attention.
>>
>> There are some AVO that could possibly compare on complexity, although
>> they would seem relatively mild.
>>
>> It's hard. There are so many differences it's almost apples vs
>> oranges.
>
>Here's my list:
>
>La Aurora 1495 Brazilian
How many is a brazilian?
On Mon, 2 Jun 2008 14:25:23 -0700, "Tom S." <t.m.s.work@cox,net >
wrote:
>"Mickey" <Mickey@NOSPAMFatHounds,com > wrote in message
>news:355u345ofnrftr562bqt5dtf8m56qnn32h@4ax,com ...
>> Padre <spirito_santo@yahoo,com > wrote:
>> One of the obvious alternatives are going to be of course, the Opus X.
>> I haven't smoked may of them, so I can't really say one way or
>> t'other.
>>
>> I would also say maybe Tatujae, for strength, although they don't have
>> the complexity you find in a good Cuban.
>>
>> The Ashton VSG can be very nice, with a creamy quality, nice spice and
>> enough strength to hold your attention.
>>
>> There are some AVO that could possibly compare on complexity, although
>> they would seem relatively mild.
>>
>> It's hard. There are so many differences it's almost apples vs
>> oranges.
>
>Here's my list:
>
>La Aurora 1495 Brazilian
How many is a brazilian?
Re: Non-cuban
"Ray" <chigarayREMOVE@sbcglobal,net > wrote in message
news:uls844tsnogtjdbd7ienp03pgon5j7uoa9@4ax,com ...
> On Mon, 2 Jun 2008 14:25:23 -0700, "Tom S." <t.m.s.work@cox,net >
> wrote:
>
>>"Mickey" <Mickey@NOSPAMFatHounds,com > wrote in message
>>news:355u345ofnrftr562bqt5dtf8m56qnn32h@4ax,com ...
>>> Padre <spirito_santo@yahoo,com > wrote:
>>> One of the obvious alternatives are going to be of course, the Opus X.
>>> I haven't smoked may of them, so I can't really say one way or
>>> t'other.
>>>
>>> I would also say maybe Tatujae, for strength, although they don't have
>>> the complexity you find in a good Cuban.
>>>
>>> The Ashton VSG can be very nice, with a creamy quality, nice spice and
>>> enough strength to hold your attention.
>>>
>>> There are some AVO that could possibly compare on complexity, although
>>> they would seem relatively mild.
>>>
>>> It's hard. There are so many differences it's almost apples vs
>>> oranges.
>>
>>Here's my list:
>>
>>La Aurora 1495 Brazilian
One thousand four hundred and ninty-five.
Silly person!
>
> How many is a brazilian?
"Ray" <chigarayREMOVE@sbcglobal,net > wrote in message
news:uls844tsnogtjdbd7ienp03pgon5j7uoa9@4ax,com ...
> On Mon, 2 Jun 2008 14:25:23 -0700, "Tom S." <t.m.s.work@cox,net >
> wrote:
>
>>"Mickey" <Mickey@NOSPAMFatHounds,com > wrote in message
>>news:355u345ofnrftr562bqt5dtf8m56qnn32h@4ax,com ...
>>> Padre <spirito_santo@yahoo,com > wrote:
>>> One of the obvious alternatives are going to be of course, the Opus X.
>>> I haven't smoked may of them, so I can't really say one way or
>>> t'other.
>>>
>>> I would also say maybe Tatujae, for strength, although they don't have
>>> the complexity you find in a good Cuban.
>>>
>>> The Ashton VSG can be very nice, with a creamy quality, nice spice and
>>> enough strength to hold your attention.
>>>
>>> There are some AVO that could possibly compare on complexity, although
>>> they would seem relatively mild.
>>>
>>> It's hard. There are so many differences it's almost apples vs
>>> oranges.
>>
>>Here's my list:
>>
>>La Aurora 1495 Brazilian
One thousand four hundred and ninty-five.
Silly person!
>
> How many is a brazilian?
Re: Non-cuban
"Padre" <spirito_santo@yahoo,com > wrote in message
news:ed7249cd-3bd6-4e08-9283-511ef2c9c799@8g2000hse.googlegroups,com ...
> Maybe it's just me, but I think it's been a while since we had a real
> thread on cigars.
>
> I smoke only cubans, not because of snobbery, but it seems to me that
> in Europe and at the online stores that I frequent, cubans are the
> best bang for the buck if you want good cigars. For instance in
> Denmark, Davidoffs cost just as much as, and more than, most mid-size,
> mid-quality cubans. I use Davidoff only as an example.
>
> So if I were to try non-cubans, and wanted cigars that could match
> cubans in quality, and US webshops aren't an option due to customs
> (mail from the US seems to be thoroughly checked by Danish customs),
> what would be obvious alternatives, and why?
>
> --
> padre
Hi:
Are you asking about the cigars themselves or ways to get non-Cuban cigars?
I mean, there are factories that sell direct from the DR and other
countries.
Aside from that I like some of the lesser known boutiqe cigars from smaller
sized factories.
Actually, in 2004 I decided to try to create and market my own family brand.
It's fun, and it's a lot of work. I'm not sure but I think this is the 1st
time I'm throwing that out there.
Right now, fuel prices are a big pain and getting the cigars into the USA is
getting expensive unless you're shipping huge amounts of product.
The biggest problem is not having land, and not growing our own tobacco (
yet ). Relying on brokers isn't great for consistency. We try. But I admit
there's a problem there.
In any case, my preferences are surely going to differ from many others
here.
And one of the ones Mickey said, the Ashton VSG " Blended Carlito's Way" is
one of the commercially available one's I prefer.
There are fewer I don't like than do.
I have friends in Canada who are retailers. They can buy a $2.00 cigar from
the factory and by the time they add duty/taxes/shipping/markup and all that
it's about he same price as some of the Habanos anyway. So they say people
go for the Habanos for the most part anyway since the prices are so stupid.
The "cheaper" Jose Piedra is expensive in a lot of shops ( for a short
filler stick ) and I don't get the justification for the prices charged.
Another fellow in Greece appears to have the same problem you do in reverse.
He can't buy/ship direct from the island. But he can ship to he USA and then
on to Greece with no headaches. I don't get that at all.
Interesting. Do they not allow the shipment of tobacco from the USA to
Denmark? Or is it that they charge a hefty tax if you do?
Best-
Mike
"Padre" <spirito_santo@yahoo,com > wrote in message
news:ed7249cd-3bd6-4e08-9283-511ef2c9c799@8g2000hse.googlegroups,com ...
> Maybe it's just me, but I think it's been a while since we had a real
> thread on cigars.
>
> I smoke only cubans, not because of snobbery, but it seems to me that
> in Europe and at the online stores that I frequent, cubans are the
> best bang for the buck if you want good cigars. For instance in
> Denmark, Davidoffs cost just as much as, and more than, most mid-size,
> mid-quality cubans. I use Davidoff only as an example.
>
> So if I were to try non-cubans, and wanted cigars that could match
> cubans in quality, and US webshops aren't an option due to customs
> (mail from the US seems to be thoroughly checked by Danish customs),
> what would be obvious alternatives, and why?
>
> --
> padre
Hi:
Are you asking about the cigars themselves or ways to get non-Cuban cigars?
I mean, there are factories that sell direct from the DR and other
countries.
Aside from that I like some of the lesser known boutiqe cigars from smaller
sized factories.
Actually, in 2004 I decided to try to create and market my own family brand.
It's fun, and it's a lot of work. I'm not sure but I think this is the 1st
time I'm throwing that out there.
Right now, fuel prices are a big pain and getting the cigars into the USA is
getting expensive unless you're shipping huge amounts of product.
The biggest problem is not having land, and not growing our own tobacco (
yet ). Relying on brokers isn't great for consistency. We try. But I admit
there's a problem there.
In any case, my preferences are surely going to differ from many others
here.
And one of the ones Mickey said, the Ashton VSG " Blended Carlito's Way" is
one of the commercially available one's I prefer.
There are fewer I don't like than do.
I have friends in Canada who are retailers. They can buy a $2.00 cigar from
the factory and by the time they add duty/taxes/shipping/markup and all that
it's about he same price as some of the Habanos anyway. So they say people
go for the Habanos for the most part anyway since the prices are so stupid.
The "cheaper" Jose Piedra is expensive in a lot of shops ( for a short
filler stick ) and I don't get the justification for the prices charged.
Another fellow in Greece appears to have the same problem you do in reverse.
He can't buy/ship direct from the island. But he can ship to he USA and then
on to Greece with no headaches. I don't get that at all.
Interesting. Do they not allow the shipment of tobacco from the USA to
Denmark? Or is it that they charge a hefty tax if you do?
Best-
Mike
Re: Non-cuban
On 29 Maj, 23:07, "Mike" <cigarmikeB...@sbcglobal,net > wrote:
> Interesting. Do they not allow the shipment of tobacco from the USA to
> Denmark? Or is it that they charge a hefty tax if you do?
It's just taxes on imports.
--
padre
On 29 Maj, 23:07, "Mike" <cigarmikeB...@sbcglobal,net > wrote:
> Interesting. Do they not allow the shipment of tobacco from the USA to
> Denmark? Or is it that they charge a hefty tax if you do?
It's just taxes on imports.
--
padre
Re: Non-cuban
"Padre" <spirito_santo@yahoo,com > wrote in message
news:ed7249cd-3bd6-4e08-9283-511ef2c9c799@8g2000hse.googlegroups,com ...
> So if I were to try non-cubans, and wanted cigars that could match
> cubans in quality, and US webshops aren't an option due to customs
> (mail from the US seems to be thoroughly checked by Danish customs),
> what would be obvious alternatives, and why?
How do you define quality? If we're talking construction quality and
consistency, then most non-Cuban brands will beat Cubans any day of the
week.
In terms of flavour, you may wish to give these a try:
Ashton Virgin Sun Grown (VSG)
Opus X
Fuente Don Carlos
La Aurora Preferidos.
Davidoff Millennium Blend
Bear in mind that they will be different -- Cuba is a most singular and
special flavour -- but that need not be a bad thing. If you are willing to
make allowances for this fact, there is a good selection of mid-market
Honduran and Nicaraguan cigars which you may find suit your tastes.
"Padre" <spirito_santo@yahoo,com > wrote in message
news:ed7249cd-3bd6-4e08-9283-511ef2c9c799@8g2000hse.googlegroups,com ...
> So if I were to try non-cubans, and wanted cigars that could match
> cubans in quality, and US webshops aren't an option due to customs
> (mail from the US seems to be thoroughly checked by Danish customs),
> what would be obvious alternatives, and why?
How do you define quality? If we're talking construction quality and
consistency, then most non-Cuban brands will beat Cubans any day of the
week.
In terms of flavour, you may wish to give these a try:
Ashton Virgin Sun Grown (VSG)
Opus X
Fuente Don Carlos
La Aurora Preferidos.
Davidoff Millennium Blend
Bear in mind that they will be different -- Cuba is a most singular and
special flavour -- but that need not be a bad thing. If you are willing to
make allowances for this fact, there is a good selection of mid-market
Honduran and Nicaraguan cigars which you may find suit your tastes.
Re: Non-cuban
Alex W. wrote:
>
> In terms of flavour, you may wish to give these a try:
>
> Ashton Virgin Sun Grown (VSG)
> Opus X
> Fuente Don Carlos
The above are all excellent cigars.
also worth a try:
Torano Exodus 1959 (gold)
LGC (sold in the EU under the El Credito name I believe)
Padron Aniversario
Camacho Corojo
Rocky Patel Vintage 1990
Alex W. wrote:
>
> In terms of flavour, you may wish to give these a try:
>
> Ashton Virgin Sun Grown (VSG)
> Opus X
> Fuente Don Carlos
The above are all excellent cigars.
also worth a try:
Torano Exodus 1959 (gold)
LGC (sold in the EU under the El Credito name I believe)
Padron Aniversario
Camacho Corojo
Rocky Patel Vintage 1990
Re: Non-cuban
"Ken Dixon" <nsvmiami@bellsouth,net > wrote in message
news:h9H%j.209499$Er2.202442@bignews6.bellsouth,net ...
> Alex W. wrote:
>
>>
>> In terms of flavour, you may wish to give these a try:
>>
>> Ashton Virgin Sun Grown (VSG)
>> Opus X
>> Fuente Don Carlos
>
> The above are all excellent cigars.
> also worth a try:
> Torano Exodus 1959 (gold)
Torano seems to be one of those brands that polarise: people either love it
or hate it. I myself like the Silver, but don't care for the rest of the
range at all. Still, worth a try.
> LGC (sold in the EU under the El Credito name I believe)
Your belief is correct.
An excellent mid-price smoke, and utterly reliable.
> Padron Aniversario
Forgot about those!
They definitely belong on the list!
> Camacho Corojo
> Rocky Patel Vintage 1990
Also Vintage 1992, and available in a Sun Grown variety.
"Ken Dixon" <nsvmiami@bellsouth,net > wrote in message
news:h9H%j.209499$Er2.202442@bignews6.bellsouth,net ...
> Alex W. wrote:
>
>>
>> In terms of flavour, you may wish to give these a try:
>>
>> Ashton Virgin Sun Grown (VSG)
>> Opus X
>> Fuente Don Carlos
>
> The above are all excellent cigars.
> also worth a try:
> Torano Exodus 1959 (gold)
Torano seems to be one of those brands that polarise: people either love it
or hate it. I myself like the Silver, but don't care for the rest of the
range at all. Still, worth a try.
> LGC (sold in the EU under the El Credito name I believe)
Your belief is correct.
An excellent mid-price smoke, and utterly reliable.
> Padron Aniversario
Forgot about those!
They definitely belong on the list!
> Camacho Corojo
> Rocky Patel Vintage 1990
Also Vintage 1992, and available in a Sun Grown variety.
Re: Non-cuban
In article <6aa7k6F36imh0U1@mid.individual,net >,
"Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> "Ken Dixon" <nsvmiami@bellsouth,net > wrote in message
> news:h9H%j.209499$Er2.202442@bignews6.bellsouth,net ...
> > Alex W. wrote:
> >> In terms of flavour, you may wish to give these a try:
> >>
> >> Ashton Virgin Sun Grown (VSG)
> >> Opus X
> >> Fuente Don Carlos
> >
> > The above are all excellent cigars.
> > also worth a try:
> > Torano Exodus 1959 (gold)
> Torano seems to be one of those brands that polarise: people either love it
> or hate it. I myself like the Silver, but don't care for the rest of the
> range at all. Still, worth a try.
An extremely well made cigar with a nice taste, but I would label it
very-mild. If that's not to your liking, you can probably skip the line.
> > LGC (sold in the EU under the El Credito name I believe)
> Your belief is correct.
> An excellent mid-price smoke, and utterly reliable.
In particular, I'm fond of the Serie-R -- thanks, Lee!
--
Please take off your pants or I won't read your e-mail.
I will not, no matter how "good" the deal, patronise any business which sends
unsolicited commercial e-mail or that advertises in discussion newsgroups.
In article <6aa7k6F36imh0U1@mid.individual,net >,
"Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> "Ken Dixon" <nsvmiami@bellsouth,net > wrote in message
> news:h9H%j.209499$Er2.202442@bignews6.bellsouth,net ...
> > Alex W. wrote:
> >> In terms of flavour, you may wish to give these a try:
> >>
> >> Ashton Virgin Sun Grown (VSG)
> >> Opus X
> >> Fuente Don Carlos
> >
> > The above are all excellent cigars.
> > also worth a try:
> > Torano Exodus 1959 (gold)
> Torano seems to be one of those brands that polarise: people either love it
> or hate it. I myself like the Silver, but don't care for the rest of the
> range at all. Still, worth a try.
An extremely well made cigar with a nice taste, but I would label it
very-mild. If that's not to your liking, you can probably skip the line.
> > LGC (sold in the EU under the El Credito name I believe)
> Your belief is correct.
> An excellent mid-price smoke, and utterly reliable.
In particular, I'm fond of the Serie-R -- thanks, Lee!
--
Please take off your pants or I won't read your e-mail.
I will not, no matter how "good" the deal, patronise any business which sends
unsolicited commercial e-mail or that advertises in discussion newsgroups.
Re: Non-cuban
On May 30, 11:00=EF=BF=BDam, Miss Elaine Eos <M...@your-pants.PlayNaked,com >=
wrote:
> In article <6aa7k6F36imh...@mid.individual,net >,
> =EF=BF=BD"Alex W." <ing...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>
> > "Ken Dixon" <nsvmi...@bellsouth,net > wrote in message
> >news:h9H%j.209499$Er2.202442@bignews6.bellsouth,net ...
> > > Alex W. wrote:
> > >> In terms of flavour, you may wish to give these a try:
>
> > >> Ashton Virgin Sun Grown (VSG)
> > >> Opus X
> > >> Fuente Don Carlos
>
> > > The above are all excellent cigars.
> > > also worth a try:
> > > Torano Exodus 1959 (gold)
> > Torano seems to be one of those brands that polarise: people either love=
it
> > or hate it. =EF=BF=BDI myself like the Silver, but don't care for the re=
st of the
> > range at all. =EF=BF=BDStill, worth a try.
>
> An extremely well made cigar with a nice taste, but I would label it
> very-mild. =EF=BF=BDIf that's not to your liking, you can probably skip th=
e line.
>
> > > LGC (sold in the EU under the El Credito name I believe)
> > Your belief is correct.
> > An excellent mid-price smoke, and utterly reliable.
>
> In particular, I'm fond of the Serie-R -- thanks, Lee!
>
I have never had a bad LGC! And that's based on about 10+ years of
smoking them. :-)
Mary
On May 30, 11:00=EF=BF=BDam, Miss Elaine Eos <M...@your-pants.PlayNaked,com >=
wrote:
> In article <6aa7k6F36imh...@mid.individual,net >,
> =EF=BF=BD"Alex W." <ing...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>
> > "Ken Dixon" <nsvmi...@bellsouth,net > wrote in message
> >news:h9H%j.209499$Er2.202442@bignews6.bellsouth,net ...
> > > Alex W. wrote:
> > >> In terms of flavour, you may wish to give these a try:
>
> > >> Ashton Virgin Sun Grown (VSG)
> > >> Opus X
> > >> Fuente Don Carlos
>
> > > The above are all excellent cigars.
> > > also worth a try:
> > > Torano Exodus 1959 (gold)
> > Torano seems to be one of those brands that polarise: people either love=
it
> > or hate it. =EF=BF=BDI myself like the Silver, but don't care for the re=
st of the
> > range at all. =EF=BF=BDStill, worth a try.
>
> An extremely well made cigar with a nice taste, but I would label it
> very-mild. =EF=BF=BDIf that's not to your liking, you can probably skip th=
e line.
>
> > > LGC (sold in the EU under the El Credito name I believe)
> > Your belief is correct.
> > An excellent mid-price smoke, and utterly reliable.
>
> In particular, I'm fond of the Serie-R -- thanks, Lee!
>
I have never had a bad LGC! And that's based on about 10+ years of
smoking them. :-)
Mary
Re: Non-cuban
On Fri, 30 May 2008 12:42:10 +0100, "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk>
wrote:
>
>"Ken Dixon" <nsvmiami@bellsouth,net > wrote in message
>news:h9H%j.209499$Er2.202442@bignews6.bellsouth,net ...
>> Alex W. wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> In terms of flavour, you may wish to give these a try:
>>>
>>> Ashton Virgin Sun Grown (VSG)
>>> Opus X
>>> Fuente Don Carlos
>>
>> The above are all excellent cigars.
>> also worth a try:
>> Torano Exodus 1959 (gold)
>
>Torano seems to be one of those brands that polarise: people either love it
>or hate it. I myself like the Silver, but don't care for the rest of the
>range at all. Still, worth a try.
>
>
The Torano 1916 Cameroons are very good. I always keep some on hand,
and smoked one just last night.
On Fri, 30 May 2008 12:42:10 +0100, "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk>
wrote:
>
>"Ken Dixon" <nsvmiami@bellsouth,net > wrote in message
>news:h9H%j.209499$Er2.202442@bignews6.bellsouth,net ...
>> Alex W. wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> In terms of flavour, you may wish to give these a try:
>>>
>>> Ashton Virgin Sun Grown (VSG)
>>> Opus X
>>> Fuente Don Carlos
>>
>> The above are all excellent cigars.
>> also worth a try:
>> Torano Exodus 1959 (gold)
>
>Torano seems to be one of those brands that polarise: people either love it
>or hate it. I myself like the Silver, but don't care for the rest of the
>range at all. Still, worth a try.
>
>
The Torano 1916 Cameroons are very good. I always keep some on hand,
and smoked one just last night.
Re: Non-cuban
On May 29, 1:58 pm, Padre <spirito sa...@yahoo,com > wrote:
> Maybe it's just me, but I think it's been a while since we had a real
> thread on cigars.
>
> I smoke only cubans, not because of snobbery, but it seems to me that
> in Europe and at the online stores that I frequent, cubans are the
> best bang for the buck if you want good cigars. For instance in
> Denmark, Davidoffs cost just as much as, and more than, most mid-size,
> mid-quality cubans. I use Davidoff only as an example.
>
> So if I were to try non-cubans, and wanted cigars that could match
> cubans in quality, and US webshops aren't an option due to customs
> (mail from the US seems to be thoroughly checked by Danish customs),
> what would be obvious alternatives, and why?
>
> --
> padre
A list of the brands you have available in-country would be helpful.
On May 29, 1:58 pm, Padre <spirito sa...@yahoo,com > wrote:
> Maybe it's just me, but I think it's been a while since we had a real
> thread on cigars.
>
> I smoke only cubans, not because of snobbery, but it seems to me that
> in Europe and at the online stores that I frequent, cubans are the
> best bang for the buck if you want good cigars. For instance in
> Denmark, Davidoffs cost just as much as, and more than, most mid-size,
> mid-quality cubans. I use Davidoff only as an example.
>
> So if I were to try non-cubans, and wanted cigars that could match
> cubans in quality, and US webshops aren't an option due to customs
> (mail from the US seems to be thoroughly checked by Danish customs),
> what would be obvious alternatives, and why?
>
> --
> padre
A list of the brands you have available in-country would be helpful.
Re: Non-cuban
Padre wrote:
> So if I were to try non-cubans, and wanted cigars that could match
> cubans in quality, and US webshops aren't an option due to customs
> (mail from the US seems to be thoroughly checked by Danish customs),
> what would be obvious alternatives, and why?
Comparing Cuban cigars to non-Cuban is somewhat like comparing apples and
oranges, however some of the non-Cubans I enjoy are:
Opus X...Very high quality but even higher price.
Padron Anniversary series....good solid medium bodied smoke. Pricy but not
as pricy as Opus X.
Ashton VSG...Good solid peppery smoke. I've gotten them most recently from
Two Guys Smoke Shop http :// www .2guyssmokeshop,com /Ashton+VSG+Sorcerers.html
and on Cigar bid auction site.
If you like strong cigars you might consider El Original made by an ex-ASCer
in Key Largo, Fl....Island Smoke Shop
http :// www .islandsmokeshop,com /
I also like Camacho Corojos and a few other of Christian's Camach line.
There are others but these are the ones that come to mind.
bernie
--
"Official ASC Shaman"
Padre wrote:
> So if I were to try non-cubans, and wanted cigars that could match
> cubans in quality, and US webshops aren't an option due to customs
> (mail from the US seems to be thoroughly checked by Danish customs),
> what would be obvious alternatives, and why?
Comparing Cuban cigars to non-Cuban is somewhat like comparing apples and
oranges, however some of the non-Cubans I enjoy are:
Opus X...Very high quality but even higher price.
Padron Anniversary series....good solid medium bodied smoke. Pricy but not
as pricy as Opus X.
Ashton VSG...Good solid peppery smoke. I've gotten them most recently from
Two Guys Smoke Shop http :// www .2guyssmokeshop,com /Ashton+VSG+Sorcerers.html
and on Cigar bid auction site.
If you like strong cigars you might consider El Original made by an ex-ASCer
in Key Largo, Fl....Island Smoke Shop
http :// www .islandsmokeshop,com /
I also like Camacho Corojos and a few other of Christian's Camach line.
There are others but these are the ones that come to mind.
bernie
--
"Official ASC Shaman"
