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Big Pharmacy in Action
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Re: Big Pharmacy in Action
On 2010-03-11 11:59:54 -0800, Bart Goddard <goddardbe@netscape,net > said:
> http :// tinyurl,com /ykguzdh
I had not realized it was so common!
"American men have a 16 percent lifetime chance of receiving a
diagnosis of prostate cancer, but only a 3 percent chance of dying from
it."
16% -- that's 1 in 6. That's Russian Roulette.
3% -- that's still 1 in 30. That's "roll this die and, if it comes up
'6', you play Russian Roulette. If it's '5', you roll again."
Those are crappy odds, IMO.
Misc "doesn't like 1-in-anything-with-fewer-than-5-digits for life &
death things."
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On 2010-03-11 11:59:54 -0800, Bart Goddard <goddardbe@netscape,net > said:
> http :// tinyurl,com /ykguzdh
I had not realized it was so common!
"American men have a 16 percent lifetime chance of receiving a
diagnosis of prostate cancer, but only a 3 percent chance of dying from
it."
16% -- that's 1 in 6. That's Russian Roulette.
3% -- that's still 1 in 30. That's "roll this die and, if it comes up
'6', you play Russian Roulette. If it's '5', you roll again."
Those are crappy odds, IMO.
Misc "doesn't like 1-in-anything-with-fewer-than-5-digits for life &
death things."
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< http :// www .ManyFriends,com /Cigars/>
A "great" review is one with the name of the cigar before the review
text in the body of the post. :)
Re: Big Pharmacy in Action
Miss Elaine Eos <misc@*Your-pants*PlayNaked,com > wrote:
>On 2010-03-11 11:59:54 -0800, Bart Goddard <goddardbe@netscape,net > said:
>> http :// tinyurl,com /ykguzdh
>
>I had not realized it was so common!
>
>"American men have a 16 percent lifetime chance of receiving a
>diagnosis of prostate cancer, but only a 3 percent chance of dying from
>it."
>
>16% -- that's 1 in 6. That's Russian Roulette.
>3% -- that's still 1 in 30. That's "roll this die and, if it comes up
>'6', you play Russian Roulette. If it's '5', you roll again."
>
>Those are crappy odds, IMO.
>
>Misc "doesn't like 1-in-anything-with-fewer-than-5-digits for life &
>death things."
Yabut (or yabutt<g>) it also points out that a lot of the time it's
benign, or at least so slow growing as to not be a danger.
Miss Elaine Eos <misc@*Your-pants*PlayNaked,com > wrote:
>On 2010-03-11 11:59:54 -0800, Bart Goddard <goddardbe@netscape,net > said:
>> http :// tinyurl,com /ykguzdh
>
>I had not realized it was so common!
>
>"American men have a 16 percent lifetime chance of receiving a
>diagnosis of prostate cancer, but only a 3 percent chance of dying from
>it."
>
>16% -- that's 1 in 6. That's Russian Roulette.
>3% -- that's still 1 in 30. That's "roll this die and, if it comes up
>'6', you play Russian Roulette. If it's '5', you roll again."
>
>Those are crappy odds, IMO.
>
>Misc "doesn't like 1-in-anything-with-fewer-than-5-digits for life &
>death things."
Yabut (or yabutt<g>) it also points out that a lot of the time it's
benign, or at least so slow growing as to not be a danger.
Re: Big Pharmacy in Action
On 2010-03-11 13:05:09 -0800, Mickey <Mickey@NOSPAMFatHounds,com > said:
> Miss Elaine Eos <misc@*Your-pants*PlayNaked,com > wrote:
>
>> On 2010-03-11 11:59:54 -0800, Bart Goddard <goddardbe@netscape,net > said:
>>> http :// tinyurl,com /ykguzdh
>>
>> I had not realized it was so common!
>>
>> "American men have a 16 percent lifetime chance of receiving a
>> diagnosis of prostate cancer, but only a 3 percent chance of dying from
>> it."
>>
>> 16% -- that's 1 in 6. That's Russian Roulette.
>> 3% -- that's still 1 in 30. That's "roll this die and, if it comes up
>> '6', you play Russian Roulette. If it's '5', you roll again."
>>
>> Those are crappy odds, IMO.
>>
>> Misc "doesn't like 1-in-anything-with-fewer-than-5-digits for life &
>> death things."
>
> Yabut (or yabutt<g>) it also points out that a lot of the time it's
> benign, or at least so slow growing as to not be a danger.
Ah, you want to play the 2nd game. Ok, roll a die...
;)
Misc "1d6, you nerd!"
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On 2010-03-11 13:05:09 -0800, Mickey <Mickey@NOSPAMFatHounds,com > said:
> Miss Elaine Eos <misc@*Your-pants*PlayNaked,com > wrote:
>
>> On 2010-03-11 11:59:54 -0800, Bart Goddard <goddardbe@netscape,net > said:
>>> http :// tinyurl,com /ykguzdh
>>
>> I had not realized it was so common!
>>
>> "American men have a 16 percent lifetime chance of receiving a
>> diagnosis of prostate cancer, but only a 3 percent chance of dying from
>> it."
>>
>> 16% -- that's 1 in 6. That's Russian Roulette.
>> 3% -- that's still 1 in 30. That's "roll this die and, if it comes up
>> '6', you play Russian Roulette. If it's '5', you roll again."
>>
>> Those are crappy odds, IMO.
>>
>> Misc "doesn't like 1-in-anything-with-fewer-than-5-digits for life &
>> death things."
>
> Yabut (or yabutt<g>) it also points out that a lot of the time it's
> benign, or at least so slow growing as to not be a danger.
Ah, you want to play the 2nd game. Ok, roll a die...
;)
Misc "1d6, you nerd!"
--
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Lots of good cigar info, the ASC Birthday page, FAQs, vendors and more at
< http :// www .ManyFriends,com /Cigars/>
A "great" review is one with the name of the cigar before the review
text in the body of the post. :)
Re: Big Pharmacy in Action
In article <Xns9D388E6B28624goddardbenetscapenet@74.209.136.98>, Bart
Goddard <goddardbe@netscape,net > wrote:
> http :// tinyurl,com /ykguzdh
Great posting, Bart, on an important men's issue. This is also an
appropriate forum to post such info where guys hang out.
I've been on about this issue for years, ever since I had a false
positive PSA test over three years ago. I went to a local Urologist
after a routine physical blood test came back slightly elevated near
the upper normal limit.
This guy asked me FIVE times in less than 3 minutes if I wouldn't go
"across the hall and let him do a needle biopsy..,it 'll just take a
minute." This guy's weird obsession to get that procedure on his daily
insurance balance sheet made me very reluctant to let him do it. I'm
glad I didn't, because I started doing some online research and asked a
friend of a friend, who is a Urologist, about the accuracy of the PSA
test.
This friend's Urologist said that there are basically 2 kinds of
prostate cancer, "one that will kill you before you can do anything
about it and one that will kill you if you lived to be about 125 years
old."
I waited seven months and repeated the PSA test. It came back
perfectly normal again.
There are too high a number of both false positives and false
negatives with this test to make it effective and reliable, in my
opinion.
Here'a a year-old link I inserted into a blog I write:
http :// www .nytimes,com /2009/03/19/health/19cancer.html? r=1&partner=rss&
emc=rss
Pay special attention to the seventh paragraph before you rush into
any drastic decision.
In article <Xns9D388E6B28624goddardbenetscapenet@74.209.136.98>, Bart
Goddard <goddardbe@netscape,net > wrote:
> http :// tinyurl,com /ykguzdh
Great posting, Bart, on an important men's issue. This is also an
appropriate forum to post such info where guys hang out.
I've been on about this issue for years, ever since I had a false
positive PSA test over three years ago. I went to a local Urologist
after a routine physical blood test came back slightly elevated near
the upper normal limit.
This guy asked me FIVE times in less than 3 minutes if I wouldn't go
"across the hall and let him do a needle biopsy..,it 'll just take a
minute." This guy's weird obsession to get that procedure on his daily
insurance balance sheet made me very reluctant to let him do it. I'm
glad I didn't, because I started doing some online research and asked a
friend of a friend, who is a Urologist, about the accuracy of the PSA
test.
This friend's Urologist said that there are basically 2 kinds of
prostate cancer, "one that will kill you before you can do anything
about it and one that will kill you if you lived to be about 125 years
old."
I waited seven months and repeated the PSA test. It came back
perfectly normal again.
There are too high a number of both false positives and false
negatives with this test to make it effective and reliable, in my
opinion.
Here'a a year-old link I inserted into a blog I write:
http :// www .nytimes,com /2009/03/19/health/19cancer.html? r=1&partner=rss&
emc=rss
Pay special attention to the seventh paragraph before you rush into
any drastic decision.
Re: Big Pharmacy in Action
Starvin Marvin <smarvin@universe,net > wrote in news:110320101311449768%
smarvin@universe,net :
> In article <Xns9D388E6B28624goddardbenetscapenet@74.209.136.98>, Bart
> Goddard <goddardbe@netscape,net > wrote:
>
>> http :// tinyurl,com /ykguzdh
>
> Great posting, Bart, on an important men's issue. This is also an
> appropriate forum to post such info where guys hang out.
My chief motivation was "See? If they'll commit this sort
of torture and maiming just to sell their PSA tests, then
what will they do to sell their nicotine patches and
gum?" (So it was, oddly, on topic.)
Misc: When you're figuring your odds, do understand
that if they were to suddenly figure out a cure for
all heart disease, then your odds of dying of prostate
cancer will go up.
B.
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Starvin Marvin <smarvin@universe,net > wrote in news:110320101311449768%
smarvin@universe,net :
> In article <Xns9D388E6B28624goddardbenetscapenet@74.209.136.98>, Bart
> Goddard <goddardbe@netscape,net > wrote:
>
>> http :// tinyurl,com /ykguzdh
>
> Great posting, Bart, on an important men's issue. This is also an
> appropriate forum to post such info where guys hang out.
My chief motivation was "See? If they'll commit this sort
of torture and maiming just to sell their PSA tests, then
what will they do to sell their nicotine patches and
gum?" (So it was, oddly, on topic.)
Misc: When you're figuring your odds, do understand
that if they were to suddenly figure out a cure for
all heart disease, then your odds of dying of prostate
cancer will go up.
B.
--
Cheerfully resisting change since 1959.
Re: Big Pharmacy in Action
On 2010-03-11 13:24:57 -0800, Bart Goddard <goddardbe@netscape,net > said:
> Misc: When you're figuring your odds, do understand
> that if they were to suddenly figure out a cure for
> all heart disease, then your odds of dying of prostate
> cancer will go up.
Sure, I get that. But, the way I read it, as things stand now, it's
1:30 that I'll die of prostate cancer.
Misc "not to worry, I'm sort of figuring on a bullet to the back of the
head ;)"
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On 2010-03-11 13:24:57 -0800, Bart Goddard <goddardbe@netscape,net > said:
> Misc: When you're figuring your odds, do understand
> that if they were to suddenly figure out a cure for
> all heart disease, then your odds of dying of prostate
> cancer will go up.
Sure, I get that. But, the way I read it, as things stand now, it's
1:30 that I'll die of prostate cancer.
Misc "not to worry, I'm sort of figuring on a bullet to the back of the
head ;)"
--
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Lots of good cigar info, the ASC Birthday page, FAQs, vendors and more at
< http :// www .ManyFriends,com /Cigars/>
A "great" review is one with the name of the cigar before the review
text in the body of the post. :)
Re: Big Pharmacy in Action
Miss Elaine Eos <misc@*Your-pants*PlayNaked,com > wrote in news:hnbuf9$ruk$1
@news.eternal-september.org:
> On 2010-03-11 13:24:57 -0800, Bart Goddard <goddardbe@netscape,net > said:
>> Misc: When you're figuring your odds, do understand
>> that if they were to suddenly figure out a cure for
>> all heart disease, then your odds of dying of prostate
>> cancer will go up.
>
> Sure, I get that. But, the way I read it, as things stand now, it's
> 1:30 that I'll die of prostate cancer.
>
> Misc "not to worry, I'm sort of figuring on a bullet to the back of the
> head ;)"
>
Only if you'll quit bobbing and weaving
and stand still for a second, dammit.
--
Cheerfully resisting change since 1959.
Miss Elaine Eos <misc@*Your-pants*PlayNaked,com > wrote in news:hnbuf9$ruk$1
@news.eternal-september.org:
> On 2010-03-11 13:24:57 -0800, Bart Goddard <goddardbe@netscape,net > said:
>> Misc: When you're figuring your odds, do understand
>> that if they were to suddenly figure out a cure for
>> all heart disease, then your odds of dying of prostate
>> cancer will go up.
>
> Sure, I get that. But, the way I read it, as things stand now, it's
> 1:30 that I'll die of prostate cancer.
>
> Misc "not to worry, I'm sort of figuring on a bullet to the back of the
> head ;)"
>
Only if you'll quit bobbing and weaving
and stand still for a second, dammit.
--
Cheerfully resisting change since 1959.
Re: Big Pharmacy in Action
On 2010-03-11 15:47:48 -0800, Bart Goddard <goddardbe@netscape,net > said:
> Miss Elaine Eos <misc@*Your-pants*PlayNaked,com > wrote in news:hnbuf9$ruk$1
> @news.eternal-september.org:
>
>> On 2010-03-11 13:24:57 -0800, Bart Goddard <goddardbe@netscape,net > said:
>>> Misc: When you're figuring your odds, do understand
>>> that if they were to suddenly figure out a cure for
>>> all heart disease, then your odds of dying of prostate
>>> cancer will go up.
>>
>> Sure, I get that. But, the way I read it, as things stand now, it's
>> 1:30 that I'll die of prostate cancer.
>>
>> Misc "not to worry, I'm sort of figuring on a bullet to the back of the
>> head ;)"
>
> Only if you'll quit bobbing and weaving
> and stand still for a second, dammit.
Well not *YET*...! <G>
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On 2010-03-11 15:47:48 -0800, Bart Goddard <goddardbe@netscape,net > said:
> Miss Elaine Eos <misc@*Your-pants*PlayNaked,com > wrote in news:hnbuf9$ruk$1
> @news.eternal-september.org:
>
>> On 2010-03-11 13:24:57 -0800, Bart Goddard <goddardbe@netscape,net > said:
>>> Misc: When you're figuring your odds, do understand
>>> that if they were to suddenly figure out a cure for
>>> all heart disease, then your odds of dying of prostate
>>> cancer will go up.
>>
>> Sure, I get that. But, the way I read it, as things stand now, it's
>> 1:30 that I'll die of prostate cancer.
>>
>> Misc "not to worry, I'm sort of figuring on a bullet to the back of the
>> head ;)"
>
> Only if you'll quit bobbing and weaving
> and stand still for a second, dammit.
Well not *YET*...! <G>
--
Please remove your pants if you want to send me e-mail.
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< http :// www .ManyFriends,com /Cigars/>
A "great" review is one with the name of the cigar before the review
text in the body of the post. :)
