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The Silent Scream of the Asparagus; will tobacco be next?
Re: The Silent Scream of the Asparagus; will tobacco be next?
In article <6880dfF2ru4svU1@mid.individual,net >,
"Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> >> Oddly, hooking the same electrodes to a rock and holding it over a pot
> >> of boiling water has a similar effect.
> >>
> >> Coincidence...? ;)
> >
> > "The rocks and stones themselves would start to sing!"
> >
> > B. (Again, the Weber-Rice translation of the NT.)
>
> I could have sworn it was from "The Sound of Music" ...
Why waste your breath moaning at the crowd?
Nothing can be done to stop the shouting.
If every tongue were still the noise would still continue.
The rocks and stones themselves would start to sing:
Hosanna Hey Sanna Sanna Sanna Hosanna
Hey Sanna Hosanna
Hey JC, JC won't you fight for me?
Sanna Hosanna Hey Superstar
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In article <6880dfF2ru4svU1@mid.individual,net >,
"Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> >> Oddly, hooking the same electrodes to a rock and holding it over a pot
> >> of boiling water has a similar effect.
> >>
> >> Coincidence...? ;)
> >
> > "The rocks and stones themselves would start to sing!"
> >
> > B. (Again, the Weber-Rice translation of the NT.)
>
> I could have sworn it was from "The Sound of Music" ...
Why waste your breath moaning at the crowd?
Nothing can be done to stop the shouting.
If every tongue were still the noise would still continue.
The rocks and stones themselves would start to sing:
Hosanna Hey Sanna Sanna Sanna Hosanna
Hey Sanna Hosanna
Hey JC, JC won't you fight for me?
Sanna Hosanna Hey Superstar
--
Please take off your pants or I won't read your e-mail.
I will not, no matter how "good" the deal, patronise any business which sends
unsolicited commercial e-mail or that advertises in discussion newsgroups.
Re: The Silent Scream of the Asparagus; will tobacco be next?
On Mon, 05 May 2008 07:12:30 -0700, Miss Elaine Eos
<Misc@your-pants.PlayNaked,com > wrote:
>Hosanna Hey Sanna Sanna Sanna Hosanna
>Hey Sanna Hosanna
>Hey JC, JC won't you fight for me?
>Sanna Hosanna Hey Superstar
A favorite of mine.
CigarBaron
On Mon, 05 May 2008 07:12:30 -0700, Miss Elaine Eos
<Misc@your-pants.PlayNaked,com > wrote:
>Hosanna Hey Sanna Sanna Sanna Hosanna
>Hey Sanna Hosanna
>Hey JC, JC won't you fight for me?
>Sanna Hosanna Hey Superstar
A favorite of mine.
CigarBaron
Re: The Silent Scream of the Asparagus; will tobacco be next?
"Bart Goddard" <goddardbe@netscape,net > wrote in message
news:Xns9A94CD3D572DAgoddardbenetscapenet@64.209.0.93...
> Miss Elaine Eos <Misc@your-pants.PlayNaked,com > wrote in news:Misc-
> 884454.17162004052008@news.sf.sbcglobal,net :
>
>> In article <jevr1490eejjcbjgs15d2otkp6a0e4edpv@4ax,com >,
>> Mickey <Mickey@NOSPAMFatHounds,com > wrote:
>>
>>> I remember the people hooking up plants to lie detectors or some kind
>>> of sensors and monitoring them while they were "threatened".
>>
>> Oddly, hooking the same electrodes to a rock and holding it over a pot
>> of boiling water has a similar effect.
>>
>> Coincidence...? ;)
>
> "The rocks and stones themselves would start to sing!"
>
...and, if they were rolling down a hill; would it be rock & roll music?
CigarSki - Possibly the rolling stones...
"Bart Goddard" <goddardbe@netscape,net > wrote in message
news:Xns9A94CD3D572DAgoddardbenetscapenet@64.209.0.93...
> Miss Elaine Eos <Misc@your-pants.PlayNaked,com > wrote in news:Misc-
> 884454.17162004052008@news.sf.sbcglobal,net :
>
>> In article <jevr1490eejjcbjgs15d2otkp6a0e4edpv@4ax,com >,
>> Mickey <Mickey@NOSPAMFatHounds,com > wrote:
>>
>>> I remember the people hooking up plants to lie detectors or some kind
>>> of sensors and monitoring them while they were "threatened".
>>
>> Oddly, hooking the same electrodes to a rock and holding it over a pot
>> of boiling water has a similar effect.
>>
>> Coincidence...? ;)
>
> "The rocks and stones themselves would start to sing!"
>
...and, if they were rolling down a hill; would it be rock & roll music?
CigarSki - Possibly the rolling stones...
Re: The Silent Scream of the Asparagus; will tobacco be next?
Mickey wrote:
> Ken Dixon <nsvmiami@bellsouth,net > wrote:
>
>> CigarSki wrote:
>>> These people put the cuckoo in the cuckoo clock.
>>>
>>> CigarSki
>>>
>>> http :// www .weeklystandard,com /Content/Public/Articles/000/000/015/065njdoe.asp?pg=1
>>>
>>> The Silent Scream of the Asparagus
>>> Get ready for 'plant rights.'
>>> by Wesley J. Smith
>>> 05/12/2008, Volume 013, Issue 33
>>>
>>> You just knew it was coming: At the request of the Swiss
>>> government, an ethics panel has weighed in on the "dignity" of
>>> plants and opined that the arbitrary killing of flora is morally
>>> wrong. This is no hoax. The concept of what could be called "plant
>>> rights" is being seriously debated.
>>>
>>
>> I remember back in the late 60's or early 70's a group of yanqui tree
>> huggers trying to stop a logging operation claiming they could hear
>> the trees "screaming in agony". What goes around, comes around.
>
> I remember the people hooking up plants to lie detectors or some kind
> of sensors and monitoring them while they were "threatened".
>
> You can nip this one in the bud by pointing out that smoking weed is
> destroying their little plant friends too.
Yes but they're giving their lives for a higher cause.
bernie
--
"Official ASC Shaman"
Mickey wrote:
> Ken Dixon <nsvmiami@bellsouth,net > wrote:
>
>> CigarSki wrote:
>>> These people put the cuckoo in the cuckoo clock.
>>>
>>> CigarSki
>>>
>>> http :// www .weeklystandard,com /Content/Public/Articles/000/000/015/065njdoe.asp?pg=1
>>>
>>> The Silent Scream of the Asparagus
>>> Get ready for 'plant rights.'
>>> by Wesley J. Smith
>>> 05/12/2008, Volume 013, Issue 33
>>>
>>> You just knew it was coming: At the request of the Swiss
>>> government, an ethics panel has weighed in on the "dignity" of
>>> plants and opined that the arbitrary killing of flora is morally
>>> wrong. This is no hoax. The concept of what could be called "plant
>>> rights" is being seriously debated.
>>>
>>
>> I remember back in the late 60's or early 70's a group of yanqui tree
>> huggers trying to stop a logging operation claiming they could hear
>> the trees "screaming in agony". What goes around, comes around.
>
> I remember the people hooking up plants to lie detectors or some kind
> of sensors and monitoring them while they were "threatened".
>
> You can nip this one in the bud by pointing out that smoking weed is
> destroying their little plant friends too.
Yes but they're giving their lives for a higher cause.
bernie
--
"Official ASC Shaman"
Re: The Silent Scream of the Asparagus; will tobacco be next?
On Sun, 04 May 2008 17:09:52 GMT, "CigarSki" <CigarSki@gmail,com >
wrote:
>
>A "clear majority" of the panel adopted what it called a "biocentric"
>moral view, meaning that "living organisms should be considered morally
>for their own sake because they are alive.
Plants have rights!
Oh brother.
CigarBaron
On Sun, 04 May 2008 17:09:52 GMT, "CigarSki" <CigarSki@gmail,com >
wrote:
>
>A "clear majority" of the panel adopted what it called a "biocentric"
>moral view, meaning that "living organisms should be considered morally
>for their own sake because they are alive.
Plants have rights!
Oh brother.
CigarBaron
Re: The Silent Scream of the Asparagus; will tobacco be next?
Marc Schneiderman wrote:
> On Sun, 04 May 2008 17:09:52 GMT, "CigarSki" <CigarSki@gmail,com >
> wrote:
>
>>
>> A "clear majority" of the panel adopted what it called a "biocentric"
>> moral view, meaning that "living organisms should be considered
>> morally for their own sake because they are alive.
>
> Plants have rights!
>
> Oh brother.
>
> CigarBaron
Strangely enough, I've actually thought about plants and life....where do
you draw the line.
However it hasn't stopped me from eating them....or meat for that matter.
bernie.. hunger trumps philosophy?
--
"Official ASC Shaman"
Marc Schneiderman wrote:
> On Sun, 04 May 2008 17:09:52 GMT, "CigarSki" <CigarSki@gmail,com >
> wrote:
>
>>
>> A "clear majority" of the panel adopted what it called a "biocentric"
>> moral view, meaning that "living organisms should be considered
>> morally for their own sake because they are alive.
>
> Plants have rights!
>
> Oh brother.
>
> CigarBaron
Strangely enough, I've actually thought about plants and life....where do
you draw the line.
However it hasn't stopped me from eating them....or meat for that matter.
bernie.. hunger trumps philosophy?
--
"Official ASC Shaman"
Re: The Silent Scream of the Asparagus; will tobacco be next?
On Mon, 5 May 2008 10:44:24 -0500, "btorvik2" <btorvik2@aol,com >
wrote:
>Strangely enough, I've actually thought about plants and life....where do
>you draw the line.
>
>However it hasn't stopped me from eating them....or meat for that matter.
>
>bernie.. hunger trumps philosophy?
All life is sacred and miraculous. However, some life forms are less
important to mankind and could IMO be graded as such. For example, a
solitary ant or fly contains the same miraculous life...but is less
important than a family member or (most) human beings. Killing a
lettuce by eating it is an extermination of that miraculous gift, but
is a lesser form and is needed as sustenance.
Something, however, tells me I should be a vegetarian every time I
taste the Baroness' meatloaf.
CigarBaron
On Mon, 5 May 2008 10:44:24 -0500, "btorvik2" <btorvik2@aol,com >
wrote:
>Strangely enough, I've actually thought about plants and life....where do
>you draw the line.
>
>However it hasn't stopped me from eating them....or meat for that matter.
>
>bernie.. hunger trumps philosophy?
All life is sacred and miraculous. However, some life forms are less
important to mankind and could IMO be graded as such. For example, a
solitary ant or fly contains the same miraculous life...but is less
important than a family member or (most) human beings. Killing a
lettuce by eating it is an extermination of that miraculous gift, but
is a lesser form and is needed as sustenance.
Something, however, tells me I should be a vegetarian every time I
taste the Baroness' meatloaf.
CigarBaron
Re: The Silent Scream of the Asparagus; will tobacco be next?
"Marc Schneiderman" <garbaron@telerama,com > wrote
> ...Killing a
> lettuce by eating it is an extermination of that miraculous gift, but
> is a lesser form and is needed as sustenance.
I'm sure the lion or alligator would think the same thing about you or me.
Your place on the food chain is a relative thing.
> Something, however, tells me I should be a vegetarian every time I
> taste the Baroness' meatloaf.
That's just common sense.
Michael
New Orleans, Louisiana USA
fermanis@REMOVEsprynet,com
==================================
CRESCENT CITY CRAWFISH CIGAR CRAWL
http :// www .nolaherf,com
==================================
"Marc Schneiderman" <garbaron@telerama,com > wrote
> ...Killing a
> lettuce by eating it is an extermination of that miraculous gift, but
> is a lesser form and is needed as sustenance.
I'm sure the lion or alligator would think the same thing about you or me.
Your place on the food chain is a relative thing.
> Something, however, tells me I should be a vegetarian every time I
> taste the Baroness' meatloaf.
That's just common sense.
Michael
New Orleans, Louisiana USA
fermanis@REMOVEsprynet,com
==================================
CRESCENT CITY CRAWFISH CIGAR CRAWL
http :// www .nolaherf,com
==================================
Re: The Silent Scream of the Asparagus; will tobacco be next?
"MLF" <fermanis@sprynet,com > wrote in message
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>
> "Marc Schneiderman" <garbaron@telerama,com > wrote
>>
>> Something, however, tells me I should be a vegetarian every time I
>> taste the Baroness' meatloaf.
>
> That's just common sense.
Or is it more like self-preservation instinct?
"MLF" <fermanis@sprynet,com > wrote in message
news:fvpeaa$b43$1@news.datemas.de...
>
> "Marc Schneiderman" <garbaron@telerama,com > wrote
>>
>> Something, however, tells me I should be a vegetarian every time I
>> taste the Baroness' meatloaf.
>
> That's just common sense.
Or is it more like self-preservation instinct?
Re: The Silent Scream of the Asparagus; will tobacco be next?
"Steve Heath" <steve.heath@NOSPAM.sbcglobal,net > wrote in message
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>
> "MLF" <fermanis@sprynet,com > wrote in message
> news:fvpeaa$b43$1@news.datemas.de...
>>
>> "Marc Schneiderman" <garbaron@telerama,com > wrote
>>>
>>> Something, however, tells me I should be a vegetarian every time I
>>> taste the Baroness' meatloaf.
>>
>> That's just common sense.
>
> Or is it more like self-preservation instinct?
From what the Baron says, it tastes like formaldehyde, so preservation is
the operative word.
"Steve Heath" <steve.heath@NOSPAM.sbcglobal,net > wrote in message
news:mLYTj.2488$17.2196@newssvr22.news.prodigy,net ...
>
> "MLF" <fermanis@sprynet,com > wrote in message
> news:fvpeaa$b43$1@news.datemas.de...
>>
>> "Marc Schneiderman" <garbaron@telerama,com > wrote
>>>
>>> Something, however, tells me I should be a vegetarian every time I
>>> taste the Baroness' meatloaf.
>>
>> That's just common sense.
>
> Or is it more like self-preservation instinct?
From what the Baron says, it tastes like formaldehyde, so preservation is
the operative word.
Re: The Silent Scream of the Asparagus; will tobacco be next?
On Tue, 6 May 2008 13:38:48 -0700, "Tom S." <t.m.s.work@cox,net >
wrote:
>From what the Baron says, it tastes like formaldehyde, so preservation is
>the operative word.
[loud voice] I NEVER SAID THAT!!!!!
I LOVE"S De MEAT LOAF!!!!
CigarBaron
(hiding sheepishly)
On Tue, 6 May 2008 13:38:48 -0700, "Tom S." <t.m.s.work@cox,net >
wrote:
>From what the Baron says, it tastes like formaldehyde, so preservation is
>the operative word.
[loud voice] I NEVER SAID THAT!!!!!
I LOVE"S De MEAT LOAF!!!!
CigarBaron
(hiding sheepishly)
Re: The Silent Scream of the Asparagus; will tobacco be next?
On Tue, 6 May 2008 06:09:23 -0500, "MLF" <fermanis@sprynet,com > wrote:
>That's just common sense.
>
>
>Michael
[both running for cover]
CigarBaron
(have no problem hiding with Michael)
On Tue, 6 May 2008 06:09:23 -0500, "MLF" <fermanis@sprynet,com > wrote:
>That's just common sense.
>
>
>Michael
[both running for cover]
CigarBaron
(have no problem hiding with Michael)
Re: The Silent Scream of the Asparagus; will tobacco be next?
In article <afd0245704ugvc1f462umn8d0375buvthn@4ax,com >,
Marc Schneiderman <garbaron@telerama,com > wrote:
> [an] ant or fly contains the same miraculous life...but is less
> important than [something else.]
While I don't disagree, I sometimes wonder about the test used to
determine relative rankings.
--
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I will not, no matter how "good" the deal, patronise any business which sends
unsolicited commercial e-mail or that advertises in discussion newsgroups.
In article <afd0245704ugvc1f462umn8d0375buvthn@4ax,com >,
Marc Schneiderman <garbaron@telerama,com > wrote:
> [an] ant or fly contains the same miraculous life...but is less
> important than [something else.]
While I don't disagree, I sometimes wonder about the test used to
determine relative rankings.
--
Please take off your pants or I won't read your e-mail.
I will not, no matter how "good" the deal, patronise any business which sends
unsolicited commercial e-mail or that advertises in discussion newsgroups.
Re: The Silent Scream of the Asparagus; will tobacco be next?
"Miss Elaine Eos" <Misc@your-pants.PlayNaked,com > wrote in message
news:Misc-3B49E9.07293106052008@news.sf.sbcglobal,net ...
> In article <afd0245704ugvc1f462umn8d0375buvthn@4ax,com >,
> Marc Schneiderman <garbaron@telerama,com > wrote:
>
>> [an] ant or fly contains the same miraculous life...but is less
>> important than [something else.]
>
> While I don't disagree, I sometimes wonder about the test used to
> determine relative rankings.
I wonder about the context of the word "life" used.
"Miss Elaine Eos" <Misc@your-pants.PlayNaked,com > wrote in message
news:Misc-3B49E9.07293106052008@news.sf.sbcglobal,net ...
> In article <afd0245704ugvc1f462umn8d0375buvthn@4ax,com >,
> Marc Schneiderman <garbaron@telerama,com > wrote:
>
>> [an] ant or fly contains the same miraculous life...but is less
>> important than [something else.]
>
> While I don't disagree, I sometimes wonder about the test used to
> determine relative rankings.
I wonder about the context of the word "life" used.
Re: The Silent Scream of the Asparagus; will tobacco be next?
On Tue, 6 May 2008 13:39:43 -0700, "Tom S." <t.m.s.work@cox,net >
wrote:
>
>"
>I wonder about the context of the word "life" used.
>
Strickly defined:
Movement - Animals and single cell. (plants ??)
[somewhat excludes me]
Excretion
[I do that]
Reproduction
[been there, done that]
Respiration
[if alcohol level under 300]
Irritability
[always]
Nutrition - (Including photosynthesis)
[yeah! alcohol!]
Growth
Example: size 44 waiste.
CigarBaron Lives!
On Tue, 6 May 2008 13:39:43 -0700, "Tom S." <t.m.s.work@cox,net >
wrote:
>
>"
>I wonder about the context of the word "life" used.
>
Strickly defined:
Movement - Animals and single cell. (plants ??)
[somewhat excludes me]
Excretion
[I do that]
Reproduction
[been there, done that]
Respiration
[if alcohol level under 300]
Irritability
[always]
Nutrition - (Including photosynthesis)
[yeah! alcohol!]
Growth
Example: size 44 waiste.
CigarBaron Lives!
