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The Silent Scream of the Asparagus; will tobacco be next?
Re: The Silent Scream of the Asparagus; will tobacco be next?
"MLF" <fermanis@sprynet . com > wrote in message
news:g0ms19$fep$1@news.datemas.de...
>
> "Ken Dixon" <nsvmiami@bellsouth . net > wrote
>>> Unfortunately 20% of USoA undergraduate students believe that "clouds"
>>> are alive.
>>> CigarBaron
>>
>> The older I get the dumber the young seem to be ;-)
>
>
> I mentioned Robert E. Lee the other day to three twenty-somethings and
> they all said, "Who?" No lie.
You gotta give the utes of America (or anywhere else for that matter) a
break. They have more history to learn than us old guys!
"MLF" <fermanis@sprynet . com > wrote in message
news:g0ms19$fep$1@news.datemas.de...
>
> "Ken Dixon" <nsvmiami@bellsouth . net > wrote
>>> Unfortunately 20% of USoA undergraduate students believe that "clouds"
>>> are alive.
>>> CigarBaron
>>
>> The older I get the dumber the young seem to be ;-)
>
>
> I mentioned Robert E. Lee the other day to three twenty-somethings and
> they all said, "Who?" No lie.
You gotta give the utes of America (or anywhere else for that matter) a
break. They have more history to learn than us old guys!
Re: The Silent Scream of the Asparagus; will tobacco be next?
Marc Schneiderman wrote:
> On Wed, 7 May 2008 13:40:12 -0500, "btorvik2" <btorvik2@aol . com >
> wrote:
>
>>
>> How about...something which can die?
>>
>> bernie
> Unfortunately 20% of USoA undergraduate students believe that "clouds"
> are alive.
> CigarBaron
I don't know if they can die but they do cry. :-)
bernie
--
"Official ASC Shaman"
Marc Schneiderman wrote:
> On Wed, 7 May 2008 13:40:12 -0500, "btorvik2" <btorvik2@aol . com >
> wrote:
>
>>
>> How about...something which can die?
>>
>> bernie
> Unfortunately 20% of USoA undergraduate students believe that "clouds"
> are alive.
> CigarBaron
I don't know if they can die but they do cry. :-)
bernie
--
"Official ASC Shaman"
Re: The Silent Scream of the Asparagus; will tobacco be next?
In article <svr524pqs8hrkijvufc30niulo83s77ga6@4ax . com >,
Marc Schneiderman <garbaron@telerama . com > wrote:
> Unfortunately 20% of USoA undergraduate students believe that "clouds"
> are alive.
And you think they're not...? ;)
Misc "love your Mother!"
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In article <svr524pqs8hrkijvufc30niulo83s77ga6@4ax . com >,
Marc Schneiderman <garbaron@telerama . com > wrote:
> Unfortunately 20% of USoA undergraduate students believe that "clouds"
> are alive.
And you think they're not...? ;)
Misc "love your Mother!"
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Re: The Silent Scream of the Asparagus; will tobacco be next?
On Thu, 08 May 2008 07:24:45 -0700, Miss Elaine Eos
<Misc@your-pants.PlayNaked . com > wrote:
>In article <svr524pqs8hrkijvufc30niulo83s77ga6@4ax . com >,
> Marc Schneiderman <garbaron@telerama . com > wrote:
>> Unfortunately 20% of USoA undergraduate students believe that "clouds"
>> are alive.
>
>And you think they're not...? ;)
>
...give me a minute to think about that one.
CigarBaron
On Thu, 08 May 2008 07:24:45 -0700, Miss Elaine Eos
<Misc@your-pants.PlayNaked . com > wrote:
>In article <svr524pqs8hrkijvufc30niulo83s77ga6@4ax . com >,
> Marc Schneiderman <garbaron@telerama . com > wrote:
>> Unfortunately 20% of USoA undergraduate students believe that "clouds"
>> are alive.
>
>And you think they're not...? ;)
>
...give me a minute to think about that one.
CigarBaron
Re: The Silent Scream of the Asparagus; will tobacco be next?
Marc Schneiderman wrote:
> On Thu, 08 May 2008 07:24:45 -0700, Miss Elaine Eos
> <Misc@your-pants.PlayNaked . com > wrote:
>
>> In article <svr524pqs8hrkijvufc30niulo83s77ga6@4ax . com >,
>> Marc Schneiderman <garbaron@telerama . com > wrote:
>>> Unfortunately 20% of USoA undergraduate students believe that
>>> "clouds" are alive.
>>
>> And you think they're not...? ;)
>>
> ...give me a minute to think about that one.
> CigarBaron
I knew the hills were alive with the sound of music, but the clouds......?
bernie
--
"Official ASC Shaman"
Marc Schneiderman wrote:
> On Thu, 08 May 2008 07:24:45 -0700, Miss Elaine Eos
> <Misc@your-pants.PlayNaked . com > wrote:
>
>> In article <svr524pqs8hrkijvufc30niulo83s77ga6@4ax . com >,
>> Marc Schneiderman <garbaron@telerama . com > wrote:
>>> Unfortunately 20% of USoA undergraduate students believe that
>>> "clouds" are alive.
>>
>> And you think they're not...? ;)
>>
> ...give me a minute to think about that one.
> CigarBaron
I knew the hills were alive with the sound of music, but the clouds......?
bernie
--
"Official ASC Shaman"
Re: The Silent Scream of the Asparagus; will tobacco be next?
On Sat, 10 May 2008 08:18:16 -0400, Marc Schneiderman wrote:
> On Thu, 08 May 2008 07:24:45 -0700, Miss Elaine Eos
> <Misc@your-pants.PlayNaked . com > wrote:
>
>>In article <svr524pqs8hrkijvufc30niulo83s77ga6@4ax . com >,
>> Marc Schneiderman <garbaron@telerama . com > wrote:
>>> Unfortunately 20% of USoA undergraduate students believe that "clouds"
>>> are alive.
>>
>>And you think they're not...? ;)
>>
> ...give me a minute to think about that one.
> CigarBaron
Drop your flaps and fly around a singular puffy cloud very slowly, then
tell me you do not feel a sort of "sacred presence".
--
Dedruidnick
On Sat, 10 May 2008 08:18:16 -0400, Marc Schneiderman wrote:
> On Thu, 08 May 2008 07:24:45 -0700, Miss Elaine Eos
> <Misc@your-pants.PlayNaked . com > wrote:
>
>>In article <svr524pqs8hrkijvufc30niulo83s77ga6@4ax . com >,
>> Marc Schneiderman <garbaron@telerama . com > wrote:
>>> Unfortunately 20% of USoA undergraduate students believe that "clouds"
>>> are alive.
>>
>>And you think they're not...? ;)
>>
> ...give me a minute to think about that one.
> CigarBaron
Drop your flaps and fly around a singular puffy cloud very slowly, then
tell me you do not feel a sort of "sacred presence".
--
Dedruidnick
Re: The Silent Scream of the Asparagus; will tobacco be next?
In article <hm3Uj.31735$KJ1.3869@newsfe19.lga>,
"Tom S." <t.m.s.work@cox . net > wrote:
> "Miss Elaine Eos" <Misc@your-pants.PlayNaked . com > wrote in message
> news:Misc-3B49E9.07293106052008@news.sf.sbcglobal . net ...
> > In article <afd0245704ugvc1f462umn8d0375buvthn@4ax . com >,
> > Marc Schneiderman <garbaron@telerama . com > wrote:
> >
> >> [an] ant or fly contains the same miraculous life...but is less
> >> important than [something else.]
> >
> > While I don't disagree, I sometimes wonder about the test used to
> > determine relative rankings.
>
> I wonder about the context of the word "life" used.
Do you disagree that ants and flies are "alive" or "have life"...?!
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In article <hm3Uj.31735$KJ1.3869@newsfe19.lga>,
"Tom S." <t.m.s.work@cox . net > wrote:
> "Miss Elaine Eos" <Misc@your-pants.PlayNaked . com > wrote in message
> news:Misc-3B49E9.07293106052008@news.sf.sbcglobal . net ...
> > In article <afd0245704ugvc1f462umn8d0375buvthn@4ax . com >,
> > Marc Schneiderman <garbaron@telerama . com > wrote:
> >
> >> [an] ant or fly contains the same miraculous life...but is less
> >> important than [something else.]
> >
> > While I don't disagree, I sometimes wonder about the test used to
> > determine relative rankings.
>
> I wonder about the context of the word "life" used.
Do you disagree that ants and flies are "alive" or "have life"...?!
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Re: The Silent Scream of the Asparagus; will tobacco be next?
On Tue, 06 May 2008 22:35:51 -0700, Miss Elaine Eos
<Misc@your-pants.PlayNaked . com > wrote:
>
>> I wonder about the context of the word "life" used.
>
>Do you disagree that ants and flies are "alive" or "have life"...?!
Both. BTW were you able to find that pirate post?
CigarBaron
On Tue, 06 May 2008 22:35:51 -0700, Miss Elaine Eos
<Misc@your-pants.PlayNaked . com > wrote:
>
>> I wonder about the context of the word "life" used.
>
>Do you disagree that ants and flies are "alive" or "have life"...?!
Both. BTW were you able to find that pirate post?
CigarBaron
Re: The Silent Scream of the Asparagus; will tobacco be next?
On May 7, 5:40 am, Marc Schneiderman <garba...@telerama . com > wrote:
> On Tue, 06 May 2008 22:35:51 -0700, Miss Elaine Eos
>
> <M...@your-pants.PlayNaked . com > wrote:
>
> >> I wonder about the context of the word "life" used.
>
> >Do you disagree that ants and flies are "alive" or "have life"...?!
>
> Both. BTW were you able to find that pirate post?
> CigarBaron
You few really do need your own little chat room!
On May 7, 5:40 am, Marc Schneiderman <garba...@telerama . com > wrote:
> On Tue, 06 May 2008 22:35:51 -0700, Miss Elaine Eos
>
> <M...@your-pants.PlayNaked . com > wrote:
>
> >> I wonder about the context of the word "life" used.
>
> >Do you disagree that ants and flies are "alive" or "have life"...?!
>
> Both. BTW were you able to find that pirate post?
> CigarBaron
You few really do need your own little chat room!
Re: The Silent Scream of the Asparagus; will tobacco be next?
In article <kn1324t42t6ec1tkfk83bv301tec7pmu0m@4ax . com >,
Marc Schneiderman <garbaron@telerama . com > wrote:
> On Tue, 06 May 2008 22:35:51 -0700, Miss Elaine Eos
> <Misc@your-pants.PlayNaked . com > wrote:
>
> >
> >> I wonder about the context of the word "life" used.
> >
> >Do you disagree that ants and flies are "alive" or "have life"...?!
>
> Both. BTW were you able to find that pirate post?
> CigarBaron
Do you mean this?
USS Constitution set sail from Boston, loaded with 475 officers and men,
48,600 gallons of water, 74,000 cannon shot, 11,500 pounds of black
powder, and 79,400 gallons of rum. Her mission: to destroy and harass
British shipping.
On 6 October, she made Jamaica, took on 826 pounds of flour and 68,300
gallons of rum. Three weeks later, Constitution reached the Azores,
where she provisioned with 550 pounds of beef and 2,300 gallons of
Portuguese wine. On 18 November, she set sail for England, where her
crew captured and scuttled 12 British merchant vessels and took their
rum aboard.
By this time, Constitution had run out of shot. Nevertheless, she made
her way unarmed up the Firth of Clyde for a night raid there. Here, her
landing party captured a whisky distillery and transferred 13,000
gallons to her stores, and headed for home port.
On 20 February 1780, Constitution arrived in Boston with no cannon shot,
no food, no powder, no rum, and no whiskey. She did, however, still have
her full crew of 475 officers and men and 18,600 gallons of water. The
math is quite enlightening: Length of cruise: 181 days. Booze
consumption: 1.26 gallons per man per day (this does NOT include the
unknown quantity of rum captured from the 12 British merchant ships in
November). Naval historians say that the reenlistment rate from this
cruise was 92 per cent!
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In article <kn1324t42t6ec1tkfk83bv301tec7pmu0m@4ax . com >,
Marc Schneiderman <garbaron@telerama . com > wrote:
> On Tue, 06 May 2008 22:35:51 -0700, Miss Elaine Eos
> <Misc@your-pants.PlayNaked . com > wrote:
>
> >
> >> I wonder about the context of the word "life" used.
> >
> >Do you disagree that ants and flies are "alive" or "have life"...?!
>
> Both. BTW were you able to find that pirate post?
> CigarBaron
Do you mean this?
USS Constitution set sail from Boston, loaded with 475 officers and men,
48,600 gallons of water, 74,000 cannon shot, 11,500 pounds of black
powder, and 79,400 gallons of rum. Her mission: to destroy and harass
British shipping.
On 6 October, she made Jamaica, took on 826 pounds of flour and 68,300
gallons of rum. Three weeks later, Constitution reached the Azores,
where she provisioned with 550 pounds of beef and 2,300 gallons of
Portuguese wine. On 18 November, she set sail for England, where her
crew captured and scuttled 12 British merchant vessels and took their
rum aboard.
By this time, Constitution had run out of shot. Nevertheless, she made
her way unarmed up the Firth of Clyde for a night raid there. Here, her
landing party captured a whisky distillery and transferred 13,000
gallons to her stores, and headed for home port.
On 20 February 1780, Constitution arrived in Boston with no cannon shot,
no food, no powder, no rum, and no whiskey. She did, however, still have
her full crew of 475 officers and men and 18,600 gallons of water. The
math is quite enlightening: Length of cruise: 181 days. Booze
consumption: 1.26 gallons per man per day (this does NOT include the
unknown quantity of rum captured from the 12 British merchant ships in
November). Naval historians say that the reenlistment rate from this
cruise was 92 per cent!
--
Please take off your pants or I won't read your e-mail.
I will not, no matter how "good" the deal, patronise any business which sends
unsolicited commercial e-mail or that advertises in discussion newsgroups.
Re: The Silent Scream of the Asparagus; will tobacco be next?
On Wed, 07 May 2008 07:18:56 -0700, Miss Elaine Eos
<Misc@your-pants.PlayNaked . com > wrote:
>
>On 20 February 1780, Constitution arrived in Boston with no cannon shot,
>no food, no powder, no rum, and no whiskey.
Yes, thanks MISC.
CigarBaron
On Wed, 07 May 2008 07:18:56 -0700, Miss Elaine Eos
<Misc@your-pants.PlayNaked . com > wrote:
>
>On 20 February 1780, Constitution arrived in Boston with no cannon shot,
>no food, no powder, no rum, and no whiskey.
Yes, thanks MISC.
CigarBaron
Re: The Silent Scream of the Asparagus; will tobacco be next?
"Miss Elaine Eos" <Misc@your-pants.PlayNaked . com > wrote
> USS Constitution set sail from Boston, loaded with 475 officers and men,
> 48,600 gallons of water, 74,000 cannon shot, 11,500 pounds of black
> powder, and 79,400 gallons of rum. Her mission: to destroy and harass
> British shipping.
Interesting story, although I have my doubts about how much of the
quanitities it mentions is true. Nonetheless, in those days drinkable water
was very hard to come by. And I guarantee that the water in their onboard
barrels was beyond noxious after a few days - certainly you would not want
to drink that science project. So on ships and on land people drank the only
portable and potable liquid that would keep a long time without becoming a
flora factory, wine and liquors. Children drank wine watered down and
sailors drank watered down rum (grog), and so on. So the sailors probably
went through quite a lot of the stuff you mentioned.
Michael Fermanis
New Orleans, Louisiana USA
fermanis@REMOVEsprynet . com
==================================
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"Miss Elaine Eos" <Misc@your-pants.PlayNaked . com > wrote
> USS Constitution set sail from Boston, loaded with 475 officers and men,
> 48,600 gallons of water, 74,000 cannon shot, 11,500 pounds of black
> powder, and 79,400 gallons of rum. Her mission: to destroy and harass
> British shipping.
Interesting story, although I have my doubts about how much of the
quanitities it mentions is true. Nonetheless, in those days drinkable water
was very hard to come by. And I guarantee that the water in their onboard
barrels was beyond noxious after a few days - certainly you would not want
to drink that science project. So on ships and on land people drank the only
portable and potable liquid that would keep a long time without becoming a
flora factory, wine and liquors. Children drank wine watered down and
sailors drank watered down rum (grog), and so on. So the sailors probably
went through quite a lot of the stuff you mentioned.
Michael Fermanis
New Orleans, Louisiana USA
fermanis@REMOVEsprynet . com
==================================
CRESCENT CITY CRAWFISH CIGAR CRAWL
* w w w .nolaherf . com
==================================
Re: The Silent Scream of the Asparagus; will tobacco be next?
In article <g0moaj$b10$1@news.datemas.de>, "MLF" <fermanis@sprynet . com >
wrote:
> "Miss Elaine Eos" <Misc@your-pants.PlayNaked . com > wrote
> > USS Constitution set sail from Boston, loaded with 475 officers and men,
> > 48,600 gallons of water, 74,000 cannon shot, 11,500 pounds of black
> > powder, and 79,400 gallons of rum. Her mission: to destroy and harass
> > British shipping.
> So the sailors probably
> went through quite a lot of the stuff you mentioned.
I believe that the implication is that they went through ALL of it :)
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In article <g0moaj$b10$1@news.datemas.de>, "MLF" <fermanis@sprynet . com >
wrote:
> "Miss Elaine Eos" <Misc@your-pants.PlayNaked . com > wrote
> > USS Constitution set sail from Boston, loaded with 475 officers and men,
> > 48,600 gallons of water, 74,000 cannon shot, 11,500 pounds of black
> > powder, and 79,400 gallons of rum. Her mission: to destroy and harass
> > British shipping.
> So the sailors probably
> went through quite a lot of the stuff you mentioned.
I believe that the implication is that they went through ALL of it :)
--
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Re: The Silent Scream of the Asparagus; will tobacco be next?
On Tue, 06 May 2008 07:29:32 -0700, Miss Elaine Eos
<Misc@your-pants.PlayNaked . com > wrote:
>While I don't disagree, I sometimes wonder about the test used to
>determine relative rankings.
My rankings prevail in my living kingdom.
CigarBaron
(rules!)
On Tue, 06 May 2008 07:29:32 -0700, Miss Elaine Eos
<Misc@your-pants.PlayNaked . com > wrote:
>While I don't disagree, I sometimes wonder about the test used to
>determine relative rankings.
My rankings prevail in my living kingdom.
CigarBaron
(rules!)
Re: The Silent Scream of the Asparagus; will tobacco be next?
Marc Schneiderman wrote:
> On Mon, 5 May 2008 10:44:24 -0500, "btorvik2" <btorvik2@aol . com >
> wrote:
>
>> Strangely enough, I've actually thought about plants and
>> life....where do you draw the line.
>>
>> However it hasn't stopped me from eating them....or meat for that
>> matter.
>>
>> bernie.. hunger trumps philosophy?
>
> All life is sacred and miraculous. However, some life forms are less
> important to mankind and could IMO be graded as such. For example, a
> solitary ant or fly contains the same miraculous life...but is less
> important than a family member or (most) human beings. >
> CigarBaron
Unless of course you're an ant or a fly.
bernie
--
"Official ASC Shaman"
Marc Schneiderman wrote:
> On Mon, 5 May 2008 10:44:24 -0500, "btorvik2" <btorvik2@aol . com >
> wrote:
>
>> Strangely enough, I've actually thought about plants and
>> life....where do you draw the line.
>>
>> However it hasn't stopped me from eating them....or meat for that
>> matter.
>>
>> bernie.. hunger trumps philosophy?
>
> All life is sacred and miraculous. However, some life forms are less
> important to mankind and could IMO be graded as such. For example, a
> solitary ant or fly contains the same miraculous life...but is less
> important than a family member or (most) human beings. >
> CigarBaron
Unless of course you're an ant or a fly.
bernie
--
"Official ASC Shaman"
