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The Silent Scream of the Asparagus; will tobacco be next?

Reply from: Tom S.
Date: 06 May, 22:40

"btorvik2" <btorvik2@aol . com > wrote in message
news:68bdkmF2rqplgU1@mid.individual . net ...
> Marc Schneiderman wrote:
>> On Mon, 5 May 2008 10:44:24 -0500, "btorvik2" <btorvik2@aol . com >
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Strangely enough, I've actually thought about plants and
>>> life....where do you draw the line.
>>>
>>> However it hasn't stopped me from eating them....or meat for that
>>> matter.
>>>
>>> bernie.. hunger trumps philosophy?
>>
>> All life is sacred and miraculous. However, some life forms are less
>> important to mankind and could IMO be graded as such. For example, a
>> solitary ant or fly contains the same miraculous life...but is less
>> important than a family member or (most) human beings. >
>> CigarBaron
>
> Unless of course you're an ant or a fly.

Let THEM file a complaint.



Reply from: btorvik2
Date: 07 May, 20:41
Tom S. wrote:
> "btorvik2" <btorvik2@aol . com > wrote in message
> news:68bdkmF2rqplgU1@mid.individual . net ...
>> Marc Schneiderman wrote:
>>> On Mon, 5 May 2008 10:44:24 -0500, "btorvik2" <btorvik2@aol . com >
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Strangely enough, I've actually thought about plants and
>>>> life....where do you draw the line.
>>>>
>>>> However it hasn't stopped me from eating them....or meat for that
>>>> matter.
>>>>
>>>> bernie.. hunger trumps philosophy?
>>>
>>> All life is sacred and miraculous. However, some life forms are
>>> less important to mankind and could IMO be graded as such. For
>>> example, a solitary ant or fly contains the same miraculous
>>> life...but is less important than a family member or (most) human
>>> beings. > CigarBaron
>>
>> Unless of course you're an ant or a fly.
>
> Let THEM file a complaint.

Perhaps they do and we just don't understand them?

bernie


--
"Official ASC Shaman"



Reply from: btorvik2
Date: 05 May, 17:39
CigarSki wrote:
> These people put the cuckoo in the cuckoo clock.
>
> CigarSki
>
> * w w w .weeklystandard . com /Content/Public/Articles/000/000/015/065njdoe.asp?pg=1
>
> The Silent Scream of the Asparagus
> Get ready for 'plant rights.'
> by Wesley J. Smith
> 05/12/2008, Volume 013, Issue 33
>
> You just knew it was coming: At the request of the Swiss government,
> an ethics panel has weighed in on the "dignity" of plants and opined
> that the arbitrary killing of flora is morally wrong. This is no hoax. The
> concept of what could be called "plant rights" is being seriously
> debated.
> A few years ago the Swiss added to their national constitution a
> provision requiring "account to be taken of the dignity of creation
> when handling animals, plants and other organisms." No one knew
> exactly what it meant, so they asked the Swiss Federal Ethics Committee on
> Non-Human Biotechnology to figure it out. The resulting report, "The
> Dignity of Living Beings with Regard to Plants," is enough to short
> circuit the brain.
> A "clear majority" of the panel adopted what it called a "biocentric"
> moral view, meaning that "living organisms should be considered
> morally for their own sake because they are alive." Thus, the panel
> determined that we cannot claim "absolute ownership" over plants and,
> moreover, that "individual plants have an inherent worth." This means that
> "we
> may not use them just as we please, even if the plant community is
> not in danger, or if our actions do not endanger the species, or if
> we are not acting arbitrarily."

We could put them in space. Then no one could hear them scream...wait, I
guess we can't now either. Oh well....

bernie


--
"Official ASC Shaman"



Reply from: Mitch@_._
Date: 18 May, 04:10

Poor tobacco.

"IT BURNS! OH, IT BURNS!"

I can just see Plant Whisperers coming out of the woodwork.


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