Stealthy Prohibition: Fire-Safe-Cigarettes

Stealthy Prohibition: Fire-Safe-Cigarettes

The cigarettes have already been prohibited
without much discussion or media attention.

The new product, the so-called Fire Safe "Cigarettes"
being sold instead and deceptively similar packaging
(it has only an unconspicuous label "FSC" next to
the barcode) visually appears as cigarettes.

FSC product causes headaches, cough and other
allergic reactions in nearly all smokers I have
talked to. The added ingredients of the smoke
(from fire-retardants and/or produced by the
grossly altered burning properties) are a secret
and are likely quite harmful.

The new FSC product was mandated without any
animal tests to establish their safety for
human consumption. Note that cigarettes have
been extensively tested on lab animals. They not
only do not cause any harm to the lab animals,
but the smoking animals live longer and in better
health than non-smoking ones:

http :// www .imminst.org/forum/index.php?s=&showtopic125&view=findpost&p7147
http :// www .imminst.org/forum/index.php?s=&showtopic125&view=findpost&p7231
http :// www .imminst.org/forum/index.php?s=&showtopic125&view=findpost&p6250

There is no such data on FSC product.

Hopefully, there will be some lawsuits to reverse
this stealthy prohibition. Or possibly a collapse
in sales of FSC product, hence loss of tax revenue,
will induce the thieves in charge to reconsider.

You can still make your own cigarettes using new
inexpensive stuffing machines ($20-40) which after
few days of practice take about 5 minutes per pack
(for under $10 per carton; you also get much better
and greater variety of tobacco than the
reconstituted and expanded "tobacco sheets" found
in most premades). How to get started:

http :// ryorevolution,com /
http :// forum.ryorevolution,com /index.php
http :// stuffingyourown,com /Machines/
http :// www .ryomagazine,com /archives.htm

Please spread the word to fellow smokers through
the web or wherever you meet them, to switch to
"Make Your Own" and to boycott the FSC product.

Re: Stealthy Prohibition: Fire-Safe-Cigarettes

On May 25, 10:14 am, nightlight <nightlight.skip-t...@omegapoint.skip-
this,com > wrote:
> The cigarettes have already been prohibited
> without much discussion or media attention.
>
> The new product, the so-called Fire Safe "Cigarettes"
> being sold instead and deceptively similar packaging
> (it has only an unconspicuous label "FSC" next to
> the barcode) visually appears as cigarettes.
>
> FSC product causes headaches, cough and other
> allergic reactions in nearly all smokers I have
> talked to. The added ingredients of the smoke
> (from fire-retardants and/or produced by the
> grossly altered burning properties) are a secret
> and are likely quite harmful.
>
> The new FSC product was mandated without any
> animal tests to establish their safety for
> human consumption. Note that cigarettes have
> been extensively tested on lab animals. They not
> only do not cause any harm to the lab animals,
> but the smoking animals live longer and in better
> health than non-smoking ones:
>
> http :// www .imminst.org/forum/index.php?s=&showtopic=15125&view=findpo... http :// www .imminst.org/forum/index.php?s=&showtopic=15125&view=findpo... http :// www .imminst.org/forum/index.php?s=&showtopic=15125&view=findpo...
>
> There is no such data on FSC product.
>
> Hopefully, there will be some lawsuits to reverse
> this stealthy prohibition. Or possibly a collapse
> in sales of FSC product, hence loss of tax revenue,
> will induce the thieves in charge to reconsider.
>
> You can still make your own cigarettes using new
> inexpensive stuffing machines ($20-40) which after
> few days of practice take about 5 minutes per pack
> (for under $10 per carton; you also get much better
> and greater variety of tobacco than the
> reconstituted and expanded "tobacco sheets" found
> in most premades). How to get started:
>
> http :// ryorevolution,com / http :// forum.ryorevolution,com /index.php http :// stuffingyourown,com /Machines/ http :// www .ryomagazine,com /archives.htm
>
> Please spread the word to fellow smokers through
> the web or wherever you meet them, to switch to
> "Make Your Own" and to boycott the FSC product.

Huh ????

what ???
http :// www .wingovcon,com /gov codes.htm

Really ! !
What a translation....
Bull.Schitzmeknott@hotmail,com

Re: Stealthy Prohibition: Fire-Safe-Cigarettes

Bull.Schitzmeknott@hotmail,com wrote:
>
> Huh ????
>
> what ???
> http :// www .wingovcon,com /gov codes.htm
>
> Really ! !
> What a translation....
> Bull.Schitzmeknott@hotmail,com
>
>
>

Here is the article describing several
different codes used to denote these
"cigarettes":

http :// www .katu,com /news/12966167.html

Fire-safe cigarettes are distinguishable because
they have any of six markings near the barcode:

* FSC
* FS
* LIP
* RIP
* A black bar above the UPC
* A diamond symbol

Re: Stealthy Prohibition: Fire-Safe-Cigarettes

On Sun, 25 May 2008 14:14:34 GMT, nightlight
<nightlight.skip-this@omegapoint.skip-this,com > wrote:

>(it has only an unconspicuous label "FSC" next to
>the barcode) visually appears as cigarettes.

Here in Illinois, FSC is stamped on the cellophane on the bottom of the pack, near the tax
stamp. It is not lithographed on the package.

Re: Stealthy Prohibition: Fire-Safe-Cigarettes

On Sun, 25 May 2008 13:23:00 -0500, Robert <no@e.mail> wrote:

>On Sun, 25 May 2008 14:14:34 GMT, nightlight
><nightlight.skip-this@omegapoint.skip-this,com > wrote:
>
>>(it has only an unconspicuous label "FSC" next to
>>the barcode) visually appears as cigarettes.
>
>Here in Illinois, FSC is stamped on the cellophane on the bottom of the pack, near the tax
>stamp. It is not lithographed on the package.

I see now that was for RJR brands. PM brands have FSC printed on the package near the UPC.

Re: Stealthy Prohibition: Fire-Safe-Cigarettes

In article <eve_j.397$ZM.334@trndny06>,
nightlight <nightlight.skip-this@omegapoint.skip-this,com > wrote:
>
>FSC product causes headaches, cough and other
>allergic reactions in nearly all smokers I have
>talked to.

Isn't that also true of regular cigarettes?

Re: Stealthy Prohibition: Fire-Safe-Cigarettes

Bruce Watson wrote:
> In article <eve j.397$ZM.334@trndny06>,
> nightlight <nightlight.skip-this@omegapoint.skip-this,com > wrote:
>> FSC product causes headaches, cough and other
>> allergic reactions in nearly all smokers I have
>> talked to.
>
> Isn't that also true of regular cigarettes?

Nope. The the plain additive free tobacco leaf in
a very thin paper filterless tube or in a pipe causes
no such effects. The plain tobacco smoke is a medicinal
miracle without equal among all natural and synthetic
substances humans have ever known. See a brief survey
of just few among its numerous beneficial biochemical
and physiological mechanisms (the hard science, not
just statistical correlation which can be interpreted
in multiple ways) here:

http :// www .stahlheart,com /wispofsmoke/goodforyou.html
http :// www .imminst.org/forum/index.php?s=&showtopic125&view=findpost&p6250

On meaning of statistical correlations see here:
http :// www .imminst.org/forum/index.php?s=&showtopic125&view=findpost&p6647
http :// www .junkscience,com /sws.html

Light cigarettes (another sellout by tobacco industry
to antismoking scam from decades ago) do cause headaches
in some due to increased CO levels, well beyond the optimum
proportions found in the plain tobacco leaf which were
honed over millennia. The full flavor filtered cigarettes
distort the optimum component proportions as well, but
less so than the light cigarettes.

Further, any filtered cigarettes, even the full-flavored
ones, cause some cough (and potentially a harm) since the
lungs need to enclose into a mucus and expel the inhaled
filter fibers which, unlike the plain tobacco leaf smoke,
are not biodegradable by the lung cells.

The plain leaf smoke, on the other hand, is a kind
of biochemical soup of oxidated organic molecules
that live cells have been ingesting and metabolizing
since the dawn of life on Earth, for hundreds millions
years. In fact the very primordial soup where the
life itself was spun into existence a billion or two
years ago by the lightening strikes into the rich
organic broth, consisted of the same kind of "scary"
organic molecules that a burned bit of a dried
tobacco leaf will generate today. If live cells
have learned by now how to do anything safely at
all, that would be it -- the metabolizing of the
most basic stuff of life which they have been
enjoying since the days they began feasting on
the primordial soup (see more discussion here:
http :// www .imminst.org/forum/index.php?s=&showtopic125&view=findpost&p7279 ).

The FSC product greatly amplifies those distortions
(filters, light cigarettes, numerous additives and
reconstituted "tobacco" sheets in supermarket brands)
of the well honed biochemical network of natural
tobacco smoke. Hence it further amplifies the
side-effects of those early, comparatively small
distortions.

We smokers can only hope that the Big Pharma
and its bureaucratic puppets have overplayed
their hand this time and the fairly obvious
harm to smokers from the FSC products will
lead to a flood of lawsuits and eventual
repeal of these vile laws and puni$hment
of those who pushed them (e.g. by helping
smokers organize and unify, or at least
induce them to migrate en masse to
make-your-own smoking which would also
punish the treacherous Big Tobacco,
especially Philip Morris/Altria Group, who
are the biggest and the worst of the bunch).

Re: Stealthy Prohibition: Fire-Safe-Cigarettes

In article <ouo_j.1795$QW.341@trndny04>,
nightlight <nightlight.skip@skip.omegapoint,com > wrote:
>Bruce Watson wrote:
>> In article <eve_j.397$ZM.334@trndny06>,
>> nightlight <nightlight.skip-this@omegapoint.skip-this,com > wrote:
>>> FSC product causes headaches, cough and other
>>> allergic reactions in nearly all smokers I have
>>> talked to.
>>
>> Isn't that also true of regular cigarettes?
>
>Nope. The the plain additive free tobacco leaf in
>a very thin paper filterless tube or in a pipe causes
>no such effects.

Regular cigarettes have plenty of additives.

Re: Stealthy Prohibition: Fire-Safe-Cigarettes

Bruce Watson wrote:
> In article <ouo j.1795$QW.341@trndny04>,
> nightlight <nightlight.skip@skip.omegapoint,com > wrote:
>> Bruce Watson wrote:
>>> In article <eve j.397$ZM.334@trndny06>,
>>> nightlight <nightlight.skip-this@omegapoint.skip-this,com > wrote:
>>>> FSC product causes headaches, cough and other
>>>> allergic reactions in nearly all smokers I have
>>>> talked to.
>>> Isn't that also true of regular cigarettes?
>> Nope. The the plain additive free tobacco leaf in
>> a very thin paper filterless tube or in a pipe causes
>> no such effects.
>
> Regular cigarettes have plenty of additives.

Not all "regular cigarettes" are made the same.
Natural American Spirit pioneered a pure additive
free cigarettes. There are at least half a dozen
brands of rolling tobacco of similar purity.
(Check those SYO/MYO links posted earlier.)

Further, much of the "regular" foods and beverages
have additives (not present in the natural variants).
The main difference is that a smoker ingests about
200-300 mg of tobacco smoke matter per pack, while
taking in thousands times larger quantity of matter
from eating and drinking (a part of which is not
necessary for survival).

Recalling that smoking reduces appetite, while a
pack a day of full flavor cigarettes will add about
300mg of matter absorbed by lungs, along with a
corresponding oxidative & chemical additive damages,
it will simultaneously reduce intake of much more
food matter than the mere 300mg taken in from
smoke. Hence smoking results in the net benefit
regarding the total oxidative & chemical additive
damages to your body. See more discussion on this
subject here:

http :// www .imminst.org/forum/index.php?s=&showtopic125&view=findpost&p7279
http :// www .imminst.org/forum/index.php?s=&showtopic125&view=findpost&p8139
http :// www .imminst.org/forum/index.php?s=&showtopic125&view=findpost&p8149

Interestingly, in the last two of the posts above
I anticipated a year in advance, based on general
principles explained earlier in that thread, a
discovery (the beneficial effects of the low level
exposure to glycotoxins) which was published
just last month in the Annals of the New York Academy
of Sciences 1126 (1) , 113–117:

Dicarbonyls Stimulate Cellular Protection Systems in
Primary Rat Hepatocytes and Show Anti-inflammatory
Properties
by M. Buetler et al.

http :// www .blackwell-synergy,com /doi/abs/10.1196/annals.1433.036

Re: Stealthy Prohibition: Fire-Safe-Cigarettes

In article <qYp_j.369$RG.201@trndny07>,
nightlight <nightlight.skip@skip.omegapoint,com > wrote:
>Bruce Watson wrote:
>> In article <ouo_j.1795$QW.341@trndny04>,
>> nightlight <nightlight.skip@skip.omegapoint,com > wrote:
>>> Bruce Watson wrote:
>>>> In article <eve_j.397$ZM.334@trndny06>,
>>>> nightlight <nightlight.skip-this@omegapoint.skip-this,com > wrote:
>>>>> FSC product causes headaches, cough and other
>>>>> allergic reactions in nearly all smokers I have
>>>>> talked to.
>>>> Isn't that also true of regular cigarettes?
>>> Nope. The the plain additive free tobacco leaf in
>>> a very thin paper filterless tube or in a pipe causes
>>> no such effects.
>>
>> Regular cigarettes have plenty of additives.
>
>Natural American Spirit pioneered a pure additive
>free cigarettes.

Still hazardous.